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Ceasefire Over: Shelling Resumes In Mariupol And Donetsk

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Update: *APPARENT SHELLING REPORTED NEAR UKRAINIAN PORT OF MARIUPOL: AP

 

  • PROLONGED ARTILLERY FIRE HEARD TO EAST OF MARIUPOL PORT IN EASTERN UKRAINE DESPITE CEASEFIRE - REUTERS

 

Translated...

Perhaps unsurprisingly, numerous reports (from both sides) state that the long-awaited cease-fire in Ukraine is over. As RIA reports, the pro-Russian separatists noted Ukrainian special forces continued shelling towns and militia positions in the Donetsk region late Friday despite the ceasefire established hours before. Several reporters in the strategic 'land-bridge' city of Mariupol claims to have seen flashes from explosions and heard powerful detonations, where tanks are moving rapidly towards the eastern checkpoint. France24 also reports the Ukraine military is now accusing rebels of violating the cease-fire. AP further confirms sustained explosions outside the city of Mariupol with journalists reporting "people dying of bullet wounds."

As we noted previously, Bloomberg's Leonid Bershidsky explains how Ukraine's Cease-Fire Is Putin's Victory.

...As for Russian President Vladimir Putin, he has secured a ringside seat and may settle down with a bowl of popcorn. Any outcome suits him as long as Ukraine struggles to get out of its impasse alone. He will be happy to see the Lugansk and Donetsk regions turn into a frozen-conflict zone, precluding Ukraine's further integration into NATO and the European Union, and equally pleased to have them gain broad autonomy from Kiev and a veto on major political decisions. A military solution suits him, too, since the West has refused to engage him except in the form of ineffectual sanctions.

Make no mistake about it: The ceasefire is a victory for Putin, a vindication of his aggression and duplicity. I just hope it ends the bloodshed.

But late last night, RIA reports Ukrainian forces begin shelling again...

City authorities of Donetsk reported that shelling continues in the city despite ceasefire that came into force at 15:00 GMT Friday.

 

"As of 18:00 [local time, 15:00 GMT] situation in Donetsk remains far from being calm, sounds of explosions are heard. At the moment, artillery shelling is under way in the city’s Petrovsky district," the city council said in a statement.

Which continues this morning

Ukrainian special forces continued shelling towns and militia positions in the Donetsk region late Friday despite the ceasefire established hours before, the militia forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) said Saturday.

 

"The people's militia's subdivisions in Horlivka and Makiivka fell under mortar shelling in the Donetsk direction at 20 hours 15 minutes [17:15 GMT]," said in the DPR headquarters.

 

Some 1.5 hours later, the Ukrainian forces attacked the city of Yasynuvata, and at 10:30 p.m. (19:30 GMT), the positions of the militia forces' at the Donetsk airport, according to militia.

 

"Along the whole contact line with the enemy, [militia forces] adhered to the commander's order not to fire back," the DPR representatives said.

Several reporters note flashes and explosions...
 

But as France24 reports, the Ukrainian army points the finger at the pro-Russian separatists for breaking the cease-fire...

A top Ukrainian defence official accused pro-Russian insurgents on Saturday of violating a ceasefire the two sides signed up to in a bid to halt nearly five months of bloodshed.

 

"We have recorded a series of provocations by the rebels. They fired on our anti-terrorism units on 28 occasions (on Friday), with 10 of those coming after the ceasefire," National Security and Defence Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko told reporters.

AP confirms,

Witnesses in the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol are reporting sustained explosions outside the city and a volunteer battalion of Ukrainian fighters says Grad rockets are being fired at its positions.

 

The reports Saturday night come little more than a day after Ukraine and Russian-backed separatist rebels signed a cease-fire after more than four months of fighting in the country's east.

 

The cease-fire had appeared to largely been holding during much of the day.

 

But late Saturday, witnesses in Mariupol told The Associated Press by telephone that heavy explosions were coming from the city's eastern outskirts, where Ukrainian troops retain defensive lines against the rebels.

 

The volunteer Azov Battalion said on Facebook that their positions were hit by Grad rockets, but did not give details.

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So, Rebels blame Ukraine... Ukraine blames Rebels... back to square 1 we go

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So it looks like more sanctions will be coming on Monday (European blowback any minute), no Mistral delivery (French losses), and a NATO rapid response team engage (more costs for Europe), leaving Putin with some decisions to make - move now, or wait til winter...

 

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Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:38 | 5188964 pot_and_kettle
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Mariupol is critical - the separatists need that in hand before they sit down with the ukies

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:44 | 5188979 lolmao500
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LOL this ain't over just yet. After Mariupol, Berdyansk, then Melitopol, Kherson, Mykolaiv, then Odessa to finish em off. And the ruskies got 20 000 soldiers in eastern Moldova ready to squeeze the city from both sides.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:45 | 5188995 nmewn
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Wait, wut?

I thought there was no Russian invasion ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:48 | 5189006 lolmao500
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Kabooooooom.

http://vk.com/soutukraine?z=video-66621324_169639656%2Fbd0b76f17d1612ba60

The only question at this point is how long before Russia opens the second front from Moldova... latest news I had from the pro-Russian seperatist province of Moldova was that the conscription was called... and the medias were being told to prep the population for war on Ukraine in late august/early september... so....

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:51 | 5189016 Rican
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Shall our 13th anniversary of 9/11 false flag be blamed on "Russia" or "ISIS"?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:14 | 5189076 ZerOhead
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Obama says Russia created ISIS...

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:22 | 5189091 sushi
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If this keeps up for another month then the EU will embrago all Russian gas imports just before the winter heating season. That will cause Putin to freeze in the dark and teach him you don't mess with unelected snooty technocrats in Brussels.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:26 | 5189098 Publicus
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To Kiev!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:36 | 5189107 Latina Lover
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In Ukraine you do not have a ceasefire, a ceasefire has you!  Porkyschenko probably had to attack again lest his carcass is roasted in the Maidan.   This will not end very well.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:41 | 5189148 Manthong
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"Obama says Russia created ISIS"

Yeah, with all the weaponry and troops they had in Iraq for the last 11 tears.

and..  I want the Sterno concession in Kiev.

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5189159 Latina Lover
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BTW, breaking of the ceasefire should be good for another 100 points on the S&P.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:54 | 5189188 negative rates
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Send in the dogs, the days of love and leaves are gone.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5189202 Sashko89
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Slavaynsk is next after Mariupol:) 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:31 | 5189269 conscious being
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Hold on Biden Jr. has gas contracts in Slavaynsk.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:21 | 5189739 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hold on Biden Jr. has gas contracts in Slavaynsk.

He sure does, and those gas contracts will be defended to the last NATO soldier (from a European member nation, that is).

Hello Poland! </spinal tapski>

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:07 | 5189827 markmotive
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WWIII over Ukraine has been in the making since WWII

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/09/this-war-is-a-long-time-coming-ww2...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:14 | 5189963 Elvis the Pelvis
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You people are nuts.  Nobody is going to war over the Ukraine.  World War 3?  Ha, ha, ha.  Let's be serious.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:57 | 5189199 X.inf.capt
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oh well, it was good while it lasted...

bitchez!

as i said, if anything happens BIG...it will be before the 'rasputitsa'

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:28 | 5189105 BaBaBouy
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Lunacy...
Destroy All The Property So All The Local poor People Are Wiped Out Clean...

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:31 | 5189112 Latina Lover
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The good news is, however, that the Oligarchs are also getting their assets destroyed.  Unfortunately, they will run back to the USSA/Israel to hide with their parltry centi millions.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5189155 Chupacabra-322
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Their is so much Blood on the Hands of the Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. / CIA its not even funny.

This will come full circle. Unfortunately, the innocent American People will pay the price over the Pure Evil Agenda of Psycopaths.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:47 | 5189736 deflator
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 The CIA are pretty smart/fleet footed people from my experience -- the NSA is analytical (mostly) in their higher hierarchies--it's the FBI that has the most bureaucratic types that you seem to be making reference towards.

 

 I was in a job meeting on a fairly large government project that the CIA was in charge of and for whatever reason at one of the weekly meetings a group of women were sitting in folding chairs along the wall beside the giant conference table we all sat at for the weekly meeting. I was arguing with the front guy for the electrical contractor(who had a +100 million dollar contract for that project) and one of those women interrupted the meeting complaining about the vulgar language. A CIA person who happened to be a woman said, "I apolagise for the language if it offends you but we speak frankly here because of the extreme compressed schedule. I don't know who invited you people to sit in on this meeting, but if you interrupt this meeting one more time I will have you drawn and quartered out in that parking lot!" 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:01 | 5189818 McMolotov
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Jefferson: "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever."

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 02:16 | 5189941 jeff montanye
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using something like this as a starting point:  http://smile.amazon.com/JFK-9-11-Years-Deep-State/dp/1615776311/ref=sr_1...

at what point would a (are they really ever ex?) kgb gent like putin think it in his interest to explicate more fully (possibly openly, possibly less so) the egregious misdeeds of the deep states of the u.s. and israel such that even the benighted population of the former loses its loyalty?

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:29 | 5189259 BeansMcGreens
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Nothing new there.

On National Review Online is a slideshow of Sherman's March from the Amercican Civil War.

http://www.nationalreview.com/slideshows/387303

Looting and burning non-military properties. A lot of this was done late Winter, burning down houses so as not to provide shelter, destroying food and animals so as to starve the women and children. Thats what beat the South, war crimes directed by Abe Lincoln.

And this was the United States Government in action. Same as it ever was to win a war.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:25 | 5189095 nmewn
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And if .gov borrowed another trillion or so, the oceans would begin to recede, the lion would lie down with the lamb and ACORN reps would coming dancing through everyones house tearing up their mortgage while sprinkling pixie dust.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:57 | 5189197 negative rates
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NOPE, you don't want to hit 18 trillion dollars in debt, it's cursed and written.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:31 | 5189217 nmewn
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You know, I bet an old adversary this is what would happen if that douche got in (Sardonicuz, if I remember right). I'm still tryin to collect.

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Just been one of those informal blind (to ya'll) surveys of mine. And I want to say thank you to all the leftwing Obama-Putin lovers who participated with your votes.

Confirmation is a wonderful thing ;-)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:35 | 5189912 JuliaS
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One cannot borrow his way out of debt. One can not create wealth by printing fiat, but as experience shows one can most certainly print war.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:49 | 5189799 Freddie
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UjdAcc6i2EQ/U7tmipA94bI/AAAAAAAAT9U/iWH4-slTY2...

Ho.  But Wet Start Joihnny McCain is involved.  Here is Johnny post Libya and just before or after Benghazi.  They were repositioning those Libya weapons to Syria.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:11 | 5189833 McMolotov
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Johnny sticks out like a sore thumb. He should grow a big ol' Jerry Garcia beard so he can fit in with his ISIS pals.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:36 | 5189913 Overfed
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Note the CIA spook on the far left.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:26 | 5190089 conscious being
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John Belushi?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:26 | 5190510 Amerikan Patriot
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There is no 9/11 'false flag', Bob - you silly goose!  But feel free to send me innumerable Youtube links purporting there is. 

And please don't forget to include the obligatory link claiming the moon landing didn't happen, okay?  :-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:53 | 5189021 robertocarlos
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They are tourists on a weekend break. We all need a holiday.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:59 | 5189037 nmewn
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A holiday from Putin, Ebola, ISIS and California drought, thats for sure.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:41 | 5189149 Monotaur
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I´d prefer holidays just from NATO, UK and USA. Then you don´t have to think about the rest.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:48 | 5189172 nmewn
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There's always something to think about, like ethnic/cultural invasion displacing a nations native people or where I'm gonna setup my blind for hunting season, always sumpin.

I prefer to think for myself ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:08 | 5189059 the phantom
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If it makes it easier for you, the people of Eastern Ukraine are for all intents and purposes... Russian.  I guess they are invading their own land.  :)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:33 | 5189113 Latina Lover
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Civil war between Slavs, courtesy of the USSA.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:34 | 5189120 nmewn
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Interesting concept.

So when the USSR broke up they negotiated the borders with who for what and why? ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5189166 Latina Lover
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Very complicated .... many books written on this topic.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:51 | 5189180 nmewn
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Well I have a few minutes to kill, who did they negotiate with and was it an amicable outcome?

I'll assume it was Moscow, yes? ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:50 | 5189314 disabledvet
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The Commonwealth of Indpendent States was created by Yeltsin. They simply took the agreed upon borders as a given and then made it all about making money...which is why there are so many Oligarchs in all these places.

But Yeltsin himself saw the problem immediately which is why he requested NATO memebership for Russia...namely how to guarantee protection of Russian minorities in the post Soviet world. A "collective security model" appealed to him...and he did appeal to "it."

The theory of simply invading said States obviously was considered the other option...that would be "in the name of protecting said minorities" of course. What in fact is happening is Russians are being put a grave risk everywhere but this craziness. These are States with national identities stretching back to World War II and indeed affirmed by it.

Threatening everybody at the same time says to me "good luck following through on that." Russia itself is home to many non Russians. There have already been attacks from within "the Motherland"...I simply fail to see how any security is being guaranteed here other than the security of the various members of the NATO states.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:03 | 5189340 Volkodav
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Ukraine A History  Orest Subtelney

Best book on this subject for English language reader.

Author is from Ukrainian territory heritage

Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:42 | 5189426 nmewn
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The dissolving USSR said it was. The nukes that it let peacefully go said it was. Well now they also know that treaties among "civilized nations" are worth the paper they're written on, an amount equal to zero without the ability to enforce the terms.

Live & learn or be a vassal state forever ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:59 | 5189813 the phantom
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Who is a "civillized nation"? The US? I think Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, and a host of others would disagree.  Half the Ukie "nation" is Russian, and elected a leader democratically that was overthrown by a US sponsored coup, that has so far killed thousands of innocent civilians, for purposes of energy and subjugation. 

Civilized nations indeed.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:12 | 5190128 nmewn
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Again, Moscow agreed to the border with someone or did it "negotiate with itself"? ;-)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:17 | 5190309 johny2
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nmewn, tragedy in Ukraine has been set up by the nuland and co. it is easily confirmed. everyone with access to independent media knows it, and so your arguing otherwise is a sign of your lack of objectivity, for whatever reason.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:40 | 5190807 nmewn
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Actually no, the way its shaping up is, Putin will get his land bridge to the Crimea because of this tragedy, so what was the long range purpose of some "western conspiracy" again?

Objectivity comes in all shades my friend.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:56 | 5190826 the phantom
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You make it sound like Ukraine and Russia are like comparing US and Mexico... I don't think that's the case.  They have separate borders and elected a president, democratically, that was overthrown by a coup led by the US... for the purposes of energy and financial subjugation.  But I repeat myself just in case you missed it the first time.  ;)

Do you think b/c a portion of the population, including bought and paid for Neo Nazi facists and dual citizens, wants NATO/EU membership... the rest of the population should just go along for the ride?

Is that you Hunter Biden?  :)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5189204 negative rates
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They don't understand what happened in WW1, they gave you 100 years to explain and you simply inposed your will and beyond, it's beyond now.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:12 | 5189355 libertysghost
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I appreciate the question...

But to jest...does the board smell like sulfur when a devil's advocate enters it? ;-)  

To some it apparently must...but not to me.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:59 | 5189443 nmewn
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The leftwing psychophants don't like their little Pooty bubble being burst. You see, armed aggression (where people, you know, actually die) is only committed by westerners.

Saint Pooty is the only avenging sword of truth & courage in the world.

So it is written, so it done ;-)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:10 | 5189832 McMolotov
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To point out what should be obvious, you are quite mistaken if you believe everyone who disagrees with US foreign policy is "leftwing."

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:41 | 5190157 nmewn
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To point out and agree with the obvious to you, Obama is leftwing and doesn't have a foreign policy that is readily apparent, so there is a lot to disagree with isn't there? 

And I would also say, hiring Mrs.Clinton (who I also consider leftwing and who has never done anything of merit in her entire life) to be followed by Mr.Heinz (Kerry, who I also consider leftwing) to conduct Obama's "Foreign Policy of Nothing" is an observation of having "more flexibility with Vlad after the election".

Leftists from within conspiring with leftists from outside have never amused me and are notoriously bad actors.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:29 | 5190523 McMolotov
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Obama has the exact same foreign policy as Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. These people are figureheads who simply execute the orders given to them by the Deep State. Do you really not get this by now?

I simply don't see how helping stage a coup in Ukraine and fomenting a civil war in Syria constitutes a "Foreign Policy of Nothing." Do you need to see bombing runs to consider it an interventionist foreign policy?

The powers that be saw how unpopular Bush became with overt intervention all over the globe, so they dialed it back with Obama and kept the intervention behind the scenes. In other words: NATO in Libya; arming militants in Syria; cash and cookies in Ukraine.

It has been incredibly successful. People on "the Right" think Obama's a pussy because he hasn't nuked Iran yet. You apparently think he's in bed with Putin despite the fact that he wants to park NATO immediately outside Russia's borders. People on "the Left" think Obama's great because he's supposedly shown "restraint." It's amazing how droning wedding parties and American citizens is now considered "restraint."

The Red-Blue illusion is firmly in place, and both sides would wholeheartedly go for even more intervention. If you don't believe me, go read the comments of the "leftwing" folks on WaPo sometime. They'd support an invasion of Russia if Obama said it was necessary. Would you?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:34 | 5190788 nmewn
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Of course not, don't be ridiculous.

I could say something equally as ridiculous as that, like, I wasn't aware that Kiev attacked the east of its own country without provocation or that Nuland ordered Saint Pooty to invade or...why is it that the ex-Ukrainian president is now living in Russia, if he wasn't in fact a Pooty crony all along.

Well, maybe not that last part ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:56 | 5189191 negative rates
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You thought wrong.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:11 | 5189224 nmewn
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It was rhetorical, Russians have always had shameful lack of humor and identity.

Hell, they even stole the Cossack tradition for their own ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:22 | 5189491 Iwanttoknow
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Hey,tell us what your christain zionist preacher is goiong to give sermon tomorrow.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:16 | 5189732 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Wait, wut?

I thought there was no Russian invasion ;-)

I had to give you a +1. Even though there's as much evidence for clones of Stalin strafing Kiev from flying saucers as there is for a Russian invasion of the Ukraine, that was still darn funny.

BTW, there are only 1200 Russian troops in Transnistria. A peace keeping contingent, they invaded in 1992 per the terms of a cease fire agreement between Moldova and Transnistria.

All Russian troops that had been stationed in Moldova proper since the days of the Soviet Union had unvaded Moldova and reinvaded Russia by January 1993.

AnAnonymous NATO official recently claimed that some of these Russian troops in Russia have invaded another part of Russia near Rostov-On-Don.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:56 | 5190171 nmewn
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lol...its a rather interesting juxtaposition isn't it?

I suppose at some point Mexico will send "peace keepers" into the SW and claim some great humanitarian cause is now underway (liberation in fact!) and its what the Spanish speaking peoples living there want, the right of self-determination and besides, we're saving the oppressed Hopi Indians!!!...lol.

Now, who could morally argue with that? ;-)

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Oh...and you know I never down vote the ones I respect here, it should go without saying but just to reaffirm.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:49 | 5189007 Volkodav
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2000 Russian military

well over 20,000 locals

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:37 | 5189137 Latina Lover
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I have to laugh when the Western Whore Media screams about 1000 russian soldiers in the Ukraine, as if this is a decisive force against 40-50,000 Ukies.  It helps, but the Novorossiyans know this is their battle to win or lose.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:20 | 5189244 Sirius Wonderblast
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Yes. Meanwhile, funny how the BBC screams about shelling at Mariupol, but says nothing about shelling at Donestsk.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:40 | 5189282 general ambivalent
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Journalist submits editorial. And it is returned with suggested edits and an image of a nail gun. For posterity.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:25 | 5189629 Anarchy 99
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or Gaza

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:28 | 5189752 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Meanwhile, funny how the BBC screams about shelling at Mariupol, but says nothing about shelling at Donestsk.

Hey, the Beeb has been in the broadcasting business a long time, so let's leave it to the experts, OK? They know that letting the truth slip into their stories would only confuse their audience.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:58 | 5189330 Volkodav
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Yats says 100,000 Russians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UlwMZ2zZVc#t=39

Will he chew tie or cry first?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:18 | 5189458 flapdoodle
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There are two possibilities as to the number of Russian troops in the Donbass...

1) the Russian troops are using "stealth technology". There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, but you can't see them because they and their T90 tanks are all covered with stealth paint. Perhaps this is why NATO is so hysterical. Apparently, this would not be the first time the Russians had used stealth. It would perfectly explain those columns of Russian tanks wiped out by the Ukies. The reason there is no photographic evidence is they had  all been painted head to toe with stealth paint.

or

2) there was only one Russian sent, Strelkov. This would also make NATO hysterical because the Ukies were immediately outnumbered.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:00 | 5189816 Freddie
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Strelkov is a good man.  The defense minitser of NAF is another good one. Kiev is filled with lying vermin like Wash DC.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:34 | 5189756 TheFourthStooge-ing
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YATSENYUK (TWITTER): UKRAINIAN NAVY WILL LAUNCH SURPRISE INVASION OF MURMANSK ON MONDAY

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:36 | 5189768 TheReplacement
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More likely Chechen military.  This allow Putin to say that no Russian troops are in Ukraine while still providing manpower to the seperatists.  Not to mention, the Chechens have plenty of experience.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:36 | 5189116 Kirk2NCC1701
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@lolmao500: "And the ruskies got 20 000 soldiers in eastern Moldova ready to squeeze the city from both sides."

Did you miss the post-NATO-Summit speech Dear Pres. Obola gave yesterday, 9/5?  He said the NATO is expanding to Georgia, Jordan, Libya and [drumroll]... MOLDOVA.  --> NATO+

IOW... NATO+ is aimed at not only constricting Russia directly, but to compete on oil/gas, as well as running interference for our BFF in the ME (Israel!) by having two ME desert become part of the "Atlantic countries" and their group of (in)security.  Note that the kingdom of Jordan is next to another kingdom: KSA.

Putin should just stop pussy-footing, stop ripping off shirts, and tell Obola and NATO to "Go fornicate itself".  He should say (something like):  "Effective immediately, Russia will NOT accept or tolerate any further encroachment by NATO on Russia's regional sovereignty and national interests, by expanding its membership to any former-Soviet countries.  Any such moves by the US or its NATO members shall be viewed and treated as an Act of War." 

That is the statement he must make, or the US/NATO and the world will know that he can be "played".  If he came out with this direct statement in this 1:1 showdown at OK Corral, you'd see Obola shit his gay trousers and run off to 'Mike'.  And there is NO way the Dems will risk "War with Russia" at the MIDTERM ELECTIONS.  Sometimes timing is everything.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:38 | 5189139 nmewn
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Former, meaning, we talking vassal countries here or just subjugated countries?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:41 | 5189147 Latina Lover
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Moldova is a shit hole, even poorer than the Ukraine.  With Russian sanctions against their food imports, and more than 20% of the GDP earned from moldovian guest workers in Russia, Putin can squeeze their balls anytime.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:43 | 5189158 nmewn
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Sounds like a great guy ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:52 | 5189183 Latina Lover
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I hear he is, just don't fuck with him.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:13 | 5189228 nmewn
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Believe me, I have no desire for Pooty to massage my balls.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 05:51 | 5190022 Zwelgje
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that was stupid.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:26 | 5190213 nmewn
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Saint Pooty blackmailing others (using food & energy as a political weapon) or him desirous of massaging my balls?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:50 | 5189868 Treason Season
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Ever had Moldovan wine? Try a pinoit noir, heaven.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:38 | 5189141 Latina Lover
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It is not the Russian way, to declare red lines.  Instead, the West will learn through bitter experience again when they have crossed that line.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:55 | 5189187 tired1
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Yep!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:00 | 5189041 oudinot
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Exactly.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:43 | 5189157 Reptil
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yes, they also need it as a supply route for the winter.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:17 | 5189234 Wile-E-Coyote
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There will be no cease fire because the nigger in the White House don't want one.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:20 | 5189485 Freddie
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The Ukrianian people should rally together to destroy the oligarchs. Go to Kiev, find them, hunt them down, put them on trial and execute them for treason. Find their cronies and the people who caused this and shot down the airliner.

Putin knows how to take down oligarchs - this is why he is so hated.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:38 | 5190103 conscious being
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For all the oligarch-paid assclowns that haven't figured it out yet -

Putin knows how to take down oligarchs - this is why he is so hated.

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:37 | 5188965 lordbyroniv
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WW3 BACK ON SCHEDULE !

 

YAY

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:45 | 5188998 Stoploss
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If they want to piss Barry off:

SHELL A GOLF COURSE...

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:51 | 5189014 nmewn
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lol...he's drawn a redline at the ninth hole.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:41 | 5189151 Latina Lover
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The only red line Obama has is the ring of lipstick around his dick from Reggie in drag.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5189164 Chupacabra-322
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Reggie or Michelle / Michael.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:46 | 5189168 Latina Lover
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Any real difference? Mind you, I'll bet Reggie looks better in drag than the Wookie.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:52 | 5189319 The Blank Stare
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Exploding golf balls?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:23 | 5189246 bombdog
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I don't know, you could simply fill shell holes with sand and you have more challenging round of golf.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:30 | 5189262 Winston Churchill
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I'd prefer they mined it.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:36 | 5189276 Lumberjack
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Nah, he is thrilled when that happens, the holes they leave are then a lot bigger.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:41 | 5188973 lolmao500
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Don't worry, Murica is coming...

- exercise "Sea Breeze 2014" in the NW Black Sea September 8-10

NAF retake

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:34 | 5189118 Latina Lover
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Should be interesting.... With S300's and 400's in Crimea, the USSA will  watch their step.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:44 | 5189299 general ambivalent
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Or steppe?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:41 | 5188976 himaroid
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Fokkers flip flop nearly as much as goldman. I wish they would let things cool down for a couple of days so tbonds would get a little cheaper.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:39 | 5188978 nmewn
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Anybody got the score on the gator game?

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Touchdown! ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5189156 Minge
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I get your point and upvoted you for the apparently misunderstood ironic comment.  Anyway, it's 44-0 after the third period.  I haven't seen a beating like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5189201 nmewn
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;-)

Well, after the last game was cancelled (and a check cut to Idaho for half a million) due to a swamp being "too wet" for a gator to play in (imagine that...lol) I would expect 70-0 and another half a mill out the door to finally getting one win...lol.

Yes, I wasn't interested in the Ukraine (again, yawn) but its getting better.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:03 | 5189212 booboo
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Oh geez, what cream puff team are the taters playing this week?

This will be Muschumps last year, boosters will run him out of town on a rail.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:16 | 5189233 nmewn
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Its one of those bi-directional schools again. Hey, over a million bucks spent and they finally get the win!...lol.

That'll help ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:44 | 5188990 Joe Tierney
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NATO rabbid response is on!

 

Foxy Proxy scuttled the ceasefire, then blames Russia-backed separatists - false flag, man, false flag. NATO can't have Putin winning in Ukraine.

 

But....this doesn't soooprize Putin - he was ready, and Mariupol will be lost to the UkaNazzys momentarily.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:45 | 5188993 lasvegaspersona
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Why hasn't Rasmussen accused the 'rebels' of killing babies in their incubators yet?

Communication lines must be down.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:31 | 5189008 nmewn
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They don't use incubators.

All babies born strong around Mother Russia, like Supermen!

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Don't know how to vote on dis nmewn comment komrade, tell me vhat to do ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:34 | 5189121 Latina Lover
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Naw, Russians don't like to throw babies out of incubators, they eat them raw  sarc/off

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:00 | 5189205 nmewn
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So, manly men then?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:47 | 5189000 Icebramovich
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NAF was shelled by Ukrainian forces at 10:15 pm at local time. So, for this reason, NAF counter attack and this moment there is a full combat ONLY in a check point

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5189154 Latina Lover
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Oh, it will spread... this is a death match.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:48 | 5189542 Freddie
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The vile scum oligarchs in Kiev like Porky, Yats, Klitchko, Yulia and the rest must be really worried.   The NorvoRussians/Eastern Ukrainians are rolling over the Ukraine army in a cake walk.  Thank God many poor Ukie conscripts are deserting or surrendering because they do not want to kill their countrymen for the evil junta.

It is a shame American men did not opt out during the genocidal "Civil War."

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 02:12 | 5189939 mc225
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war of the states: actually, weren't there thousands of deaths in draft riots in new york city? also, wasn't maryland in general, extremely reluctant to fight?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:47 | 5189003 Karaio
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Putin said the Poroshenko: 

- Our ISIS does not cut heads for now, just when I get to Kiev, better pack her bags and leave. 

hehe.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:50 | 5189012 lolmao500
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How long before Obumer calls his Saudi friend to activate the terrorists cells in Russia?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:54 | 5189022 Eahudimac
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I have yet to see a single photograph or video of russian military in Ukraine. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:00 | 5189040 smacker
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I don't think you're alone. Nor has NATO, Washington, London, Kiev or Brussels. We know this to be true because if they had any, they'd be all over MSM.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:17 | 5189075 sushi
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C'mon guys. Learning advanced Photoshop skills takes a couple of months at least. Do you think the skills of a William Banzai 7 are easy to duplicate?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:19 | 5189086 kchrisc
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They had many photos and videos, but they "buried" them at sea.

An American, not US subject.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:49 | 5189309 general ambivalent
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Shaun Walker is using one of those GCHQ invisible ink cameras. You need the proper deencrypt marker (available from Monsanto spooks) to rub on your screen to reveal the true information.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:54 | 5189024 goldhedge
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Western Media will tell the truth....The Seps/Russia broke the ceasefire period.

/s off

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:56 | 5189027 Lumberjack
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On the energy front re: Southstream:

South Stream 'Important to Bulgaria as Gas Transit Route' - EconMin - 

http://www.novinite.com/articles/163145/South+Stream+'Important+to+Bulgaria+as+Gas+Transit+Route'+-+EconMin

 

The South Stream pipeline will be more important in terms of gas transportation than of supplies to Bulgaria, caretaker Economy Minister Vasil Shtonov made clear.

In an interview with public broadcaster BNT he explained that it would be gas transit taxes that would bring more profit to Bulgaria, "even though [through the project] we are, of course, undergoing diversification."

The minister reminded that, out of 63 billion cubic meters of gas projected to be pumped through South Stream's pipes on a yearly basis, just 1 bcm is to be delivered to the country.

He was confident that both the Chiren gas depot and the reverse-flow interconnection with Greece could be of much use to Bulgaria in case of a major crisis this winter, with the later capable of delivering 1.5 to 3 bcm of gas every day.

Shtonov also commented on his recently announced calls for a hike of electricity prices, adding there was a "possibility" such a step could be taken once in three months. 

He reiterated his position that prices had to go up to make up for the BGN 1.5 B deficit within Bulgaria's energy system. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:13 | 5189071 kchrisc
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I have a feeling that the Zionists and Nuland have some "cookies" in store for Bulgaria.

A non 'return' able American.

 

"Return" also means, "Flee with the loot."

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:56 | 5189030 ramacers
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did porky really think he could get around vlad's kgb playbook? all cossack e of dneiper by the end.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:48 | 5189094 HardlyZero
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Yup that is the goal.  I wonder if Moldova gets sucked in and pincer thru Odessa ?

Moldovia wants beachfront property too and has been landlocked for a while by Ukraine.

A Ukraine land-lock will probably be the final negotiating point which Russia will throttle and control Kiev.

Cold chicken Kiev this Winter.

With all the broken windows let see how the Wall Street bots react on Monday open.

 

I've been short this year, especially over weekends.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:11 | 5189356 The Blank Stare
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Chicken Kiev recipe

 

 

1/3 cup Right Sector blood 


1/2 teaspoon ground East-Ukrainian bones 


1 teaspoon garlic powder 


2 pounds skinless, boneless East-Ukrainian breast halves 


2 East-Ukrainian embryos 


3 tablespoons of Poroshenko chocolate


1/4 teaspoon dried and ground Right Sector jizz 


1/2 teaspoon garlic powder 


1 teaspoon dried East-Ukrainian brian


3/4 cup all-purpose GM flour 


3/4 cup dry East-Ukrainian fingernails


2 cups GM vegetable oil for frying 

 

1/2 lemon, sliced 


1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley

 

Bon Apatite! 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:57 | 5189033 SocialismIsCancer
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All this ceasefire talk is silly and wasteful. The factions should just fight continuously at full throttle, with the EU and USA financing and supplying the Ukrainian factions, and Russia continuing to finance and supply the Ukrainian factions, until there is a decisive winner.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:07 | 5189034 cowdiddly
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Leonid Brezinki worried about saving lives? LMAO FUCK HIM

Why that old NWO Vampire has been preaching his entire life about how we need to put down Russia. He must be getting getting a woodie even in his 80s now that his little war has finally started. I wish these old ancient windbags like him and Soros would just do the world a favor and DIE ALREADY.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:09 | 5189060 oudinot
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He's a horrible old man but he's Polish and that poor country has been partiioned so many time between, Prussia, Germany, France, Russia that he has a prejudice , paranoid bias and he projects it at Russia.  O

He is given alot of prestige in Washington, I don't know what for,  he did terribly in his NSA post with Carter.

 

BTW: He can't live much longer.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:37 | 5189132 Omen IV
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Poland is Fascist!!!!
Zb is as well

Uk will be partioned at the Dnieper River - the north will become part of Poland - the Bandera Fascists are their brothers

They will unite under the Fascist Banner supported by the USA

for the 1/ 10 of 1%

Game on !!!!

Motha- fuckas!!!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:37 | 5189133 Omen IV
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Poland is Fascist!!!!
Zb is as well

Uk will be partioned at the Dnieper River - the north will become part of Poland - the Bandera Fascists are their brothers

They will unite under the Fascist Banner supported by the USA

for the 1/ 10 of 1%

Game on !!!!

Motha- fuckas!!!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:36 | 5189134 Omen IV
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Poland is Fascist!!!!
Zb is as well

Uk will be partioned at the Dnieper River - the north will become part of Poland - the Bandera Fascists are their brothers

They will unite under the Fascist Banner supported by the USA

for the 1/ 10 of 1%

Game on !!!!

Motha- fuckas!!!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:30 | 5189261 Tinky
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Oddly, the third time wasn't the charm.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:00 | 5189044 Son of Captain Nemo
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Wonder if John Brennan made another secret trip to Kiev to give Choco-Jew & Co. their last rights?...

I see a picture with Turchnyov, Yatsenyuk, "Porko" and Tymoshenko hanging upside down to parade before the masses in Kiev to pay their final respects coming very soon!

And best of all sooner than any of these four think!!!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:17 | 5189232 bombdog
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Either that or they all escape to London and live in spacious appartments in Chelsea or Kensington.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:17 | 5189475 Son of Captain Nemo
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Either that or they all escape to London and live in spacious appartments in Chelsea or Kensington.

Nah.  I'll bet against the odds of that one happening.  The CFR crowd ain't too happy and the level of discontent is showin.

I think they'll be glad to take them all off the payroll with the money they've lost on this one!  This ain't Augusto Pinochet 1975 and Tariq Aziz crica 2003 for sure! 

Those days of "full faith and credit in the British Sterling and USD" are long behind us!.......  With the amount of debt the West is racking up on this misadventure, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see ISIS working for the Chinese and Russians to get their pay in Yuan and Rubles which are solvent and only getting moreso!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:02 | 5189046 BaghdadBob
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Long Sun Block, Dark Glasses & Iodine.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:03 | 5189047 kchrisc
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What if you throw a brutal takeover of another country in retaliation for the prevention of the brutal takeover of another country and you lost?!

The Zionists and Nuland may want to get on cookie detail quick like.

A non 'return' able American.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:06 | 5189056 Seize Mars
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No shelling in Mariupol, no IMF honey for the installed dictators in Kiev.

It's that simple.

You want peace and freedom? Stop fiat money.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:06 | 5189058 Volkodav
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Will he chew tie or cry first?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UlwMZ2zZVc#t=39

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:12 | 5189073 InvalidID
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 I've said it a bunch on here. Putin knows he's trading away Syria, so needs to decide how much of Ukraine he needs to make up for it. Cost analysis. and all that.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:46 | 5189171 Omen IV
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I don't think so - Syria is a wild card- the ISIS is a solution for some and a problem for others - SA is scared shitless !

Assad represents stability in the face of chaos

SA may join Iran and ride that Horse!

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:22 | 5189245 RMolineaux
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Not likely the Saudis will join up with Iran.  That would allow ISIS to accuse them of promoting heresy.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:12 | 5189886 Freddie
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??

Hezbollah and Iran (to a lesser extent) have been providing some help to Syria.  Hezbollah has been in Lebanon and Syria killing ISIS and NUSRA.

 

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