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Ceasefire Over: Shelling Resumes In Mariupol And Donetsk
Update: *APPARENT SHELLING REPORTED NEAR UKRAINIAN PORT OF MARIUPOL: AP
Journos set off to Mariupol E checkpoint got across bridge by Azovstal, saw cars shot up - unclear by who - people dying from bullet wounds.
— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) September 6, 2014
- PROLONGED ARTILLERY FIRE HEARD TO EAST OF MARIUPOL PORT IN EASTERN UKRAINE DESPITE CEASEFIRE - REUTERS
As far as I understand from what officials there have said, the @press_dnr account is official. So DNR officially admits breaking ceasefire.
— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) September 6, 2014
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— ??? ?????????? (@press_dnr) September 6, 2014
Translated...
Perhaps unsurprisingly, numerous reports (from both sides) state that the long-awaited cease-fire in Ukraine is over. As RIA reports, the pro-Russian separatists noted Ukrainian special forces continued shelling towns and militia positions in the Donetsk region late Friday despite the ceasefire established hours before. Several reporters in the strategic 'land-bridge' city of Mariupol claims to have seen flashes from explosions and heard powerful detonations, where tanks are moving rapidly towards the eastern checkpoint. France24 also reports the Ukraine military is now accusing rebels of violating the cease-fire. AP further confirms sustained explosions outside the city of Mariupol with journalists reporting "people dying of bullet wounds."
As we noted previously, Bloomberg's Leonid Bershidsky explains how Ukraine's Cease-Fire Is Putin's Victory.
...As for Russian President Vladimir Putin, he has secured a ringside seat and may settle down with a bowl of popcorn. Any outcome suits him as long as Ukraine struggles to get out of its impasse alone. He will be happy to see the Lugansk and Donetsk regions turn into a frozen-conflict zone, precluding Ukraine's further integration into NATO and the European Union, and equally pleased to have them gain broad autonomy from Kiev and a veto on major political decisions. A military solution suits him, too, since the West has refused to engage him except in the form of ineffectual sanctions.Make no mistake about it: The ceasefire is a victory for Putin, a vindication of his aggression and duplicity. I just hope it ends the bloodshed.
But late last night, RIA reports Ukrainian forces begin shelling again...
City authorities of Donetsk reported that shelling continues in the city despite ceasefire that came into force at 15:00 GMT Friday.
"As of 18:00 [local time, 15:00 GMT] situation in Donetsk remains far from being calm, sounds of explosions are heard. At the moment, artillery shelling is under way in the city’s Petrovsky district," the city council said in a statement.
Ukrainian special forces continued shelling towns and militia positions in the Donetsk region late Friday despite the ceasefire established hours before, the militia forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) said Saturday.
"The people's militia's subdivisions in Horlivka and Makiivka fell under mortar shelling in the Donetsk direction at 20 hours 15 minutes [17:15 GMT]," said in the DPR headquarters.
Some 1.5 hours later, the Ukrainian forces attacked the city of Yasynuvata, and at 10:30 p.m. (19:30 GMT), the positions of the militia forces' at the Donetsk airport, according to militia.
"Along the whole contact line with the enemy, [militia forces] adhered to the commander's order not to fire back," the DPR representatives said.
Several reporters note flashes and explosions...
#Mariupol pic.twitter.com/18sg4Ynb9s
— Will Vernon (@BBCWillVernon) September 6, 2014
Sounds of shelling audible in #Mariupol
— Will Vernon (@BBCWillVernon) September 6, 2014
.@ICRC confirm to the BBC that shelling prevented their aid convoy from reaching #Lugansk this morning. 10 lorries had to turn back #Ukraine
— Will Vernon (@BBCWillVernon) September 6, 2014
Jetzt: Diese Tankstelle wurde beschossen, sehen weitere Explosionen @BILD #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/yhBTGsh5de
— Paul Ronzheimer (@ronzheimer) September 6, 2014
But as France24 reports, the Ukrainian army points the finger at the pro-Russian separatists for breaking the cease-fire...
A top Ukrainian defence official accused pro-Russian insurgents on Saturday of violating a ceasefire the two sides signed up to in a bid to halt nearly five months of bloodshed.
"We have recorded a series of provocations by the rebels. They fired on our anti-terrorism units on 28 occasions (on Friday), with 10 of those coming after the ceasefire," National Security and Defence Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko told reporters.
Witnesses in the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol are reporting sustained explosions outside the city and a volunteer battalion of Ukrainian fighters says Grad rockets are being fired at its positions.
The reports Saturday night come little more than a day after Ukraine and Russian-backed separatist rebels signed a cease-fire after more than four months of fighting in the country's east.
The cease-fire had appeared to largely been holding during much of the day.
But late Saturday, witnesses in Mariupol told The Associated Press by telephone that heavy explosions were coming from the city's eastern outskirts, where Ukrainian troops retain defensive lines against the rebels.
The volunteer Azov Battalion said on Facebook that their positions were hit by Grad rockets, but did not give details.
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So, Rebels blame Ukraine... Ukraine blames Rebels... back to square 1 we go
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So it looks like more sanctions will be coming on Monday (European blowback any minute), no Mistral delivery (French losses), and a NATO rapid response team engage (more costs for Europe), leaving Putin with some decisions to make - move now, or wait til winter...
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Listen. You cannot beat Russia you little Ukrainian creeps!
The Western media is basically the mouthpiece of the Kiev Junta....that's all you need to know really.
Sep. 7, 2014 - Dawn in Mariupol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5itZgs4r5mk
Watch the Jew boy get picked clean!
He makes your skin crawl just to look at him spew his lies. I get that same feeling when I see a viper slither past me in the woods. Evil cunt!
Guys, guys, how about we take a breather here?
It happened on a saturday as usual. Just keep cool, and buy the dip on monday. It's just poker after all ...
Guys, guys, how about we take a breather here?
It happened on a saturday as usual. Just keep cool, and buy the dip on monday. It's just poker after all ...
Yes that's true. A game of poker with real men, women and children that are being killed for U.S. "strategic self-interests"!
There. Does that feel better now?!!!
It seems Russia is about to take Mariupol... The Ukr army is abandoning...
#AJE Mariupol team says #Ukraine army has abandoned the front line checkpoint at the eastern city limits. Position 'pretty much flattened'.
"It seems Russia is about to take Mariupol."
It's not Russia, it's the separatists. If it was Russia, they would already have taken Kiev. If Russia really invaded, they'd take the whole of Ukraine in a matter of days. Five, maybe six at most.
Slowly slipping in at night over the weekends. Inchstones. Russians have a long time to do this and might take a few years during the summers.
In a few years of little or no gas from Russia things will look different. Then again, if a very strong western defense is setup quickly it could all collapse in a second.
Two days.
that says checkpoint...not the entire city
otherwise, much more than checkpoint happening
Nats and maybe others are still there according to my source on quiet side of Mauripol..not ventured across to look where fightings are...but shelling and small arms.
Kyiv gathered many armor forward and started for assaults and shellings firstly real soon after ceasefire began. NAF followed orders not to respond to violations for awhile, but then fight back
Volk
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/
Colonel Cassad's web site is saying the Ukies are on the 4th call up or mobilization or draft of troops. it is getting down to children and old men. Ukie's are deserting and abandoning equipment too.
Cassad's site said the Ukies are so desparate they are mobilizing old BTR60/70 APCs and 1930s era machine guns.
I sure hope NAF/NovoRossiya goes all the way to Kiev and the Ukrianians rally around to arrest, try and execute the oligarchs and their goons who caused this.
Well, it lasted a lot longer than what I expected.
NATO is like the dude who always promises to tell the girl when he's about jizz...but fails to do so
Is this the DoS flunkee that replaced "Jan"?
Jan you really need to return from your summer break effective immediately! And that's certainly saying a heluva lot given your "talents"!
Enjoyed the embarrassing level of desperation on this one thoroughly. DoS is certainly digging deep into the barrel to find these gems. I think a trip to Hef's palace in Hollywood should be on her's and the Agency's agenda moving forward.
If the "pussy" could talk what wonderful stories it would tell!
I see a million dollar book deal coming your way honey!
Of course the separatists broke the ceasefire... does anyone really doubt what will happen once NATO troops are on the ground, and NATO jets are allowed to fly ANYWHERE over sovereign Ukraine?
Once radar weapons are eliminated, those a 10s they were going to "retire" anyways, and are for all purposes "disposable" now can just get sent up again and again... not even the reactive armor of a T 90 is going to last more than the first two "B"s of B-B-B-Bbbbuurp of depleted uranium being released by the cannons.
use of DU will destroy the most productive agriculture in this part of the world. it's been that for centuries.
any army using DU on a large scale has targeted our species.
their leaders must be identified, hunted down and need to be taken out and shot like rabid dogs, before they do more damage to the planet's biotope.
I'm serious. all of this shit will be minor skirmishes in a history book in 200 years. but DU won't be. DU is practically forever. priorities.
If DU radiation lasts for a very long time, then its current level of radiation is low - not much more than natural background. You are contradicting yourself. Learn some science.
Fuck off. Watch or read anything from the cold war era and what does it say? Radioactive dust is what will kill you and likely destroy the planet. Not background radiation. Learn how science has been used to create a War is Peace society and force you to believe nuclear waste is for your own safety.
So Russia takes over the airspace quickly, first. or makes the attempt. Before NATO flies in...Correct ?
didn't notice that in real Ukr has not aircraft flying without getting shot to hell?
already better call it deadspace than airspace
Yes, but it would be less risky for Russia military to take over Ukr airspace now, versus waiting for NATO to setup and control Kiev and all Ukr. Strategy.
No need for Mig27s or Su35s over Ukraine, Russia could control Uki airspace from within Russia, F18s/16s/15s/typhoons would be greeted with S300/400/ BUK2s, Would be like a turkey shoot.!!
C is for Cookie, that's good enough for me...
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Wow! A new issue of Glory To The Heroes Comics© is out!
I think I might have found a problem in your calculations.
Looks like Obamao is going to lose this war too.
It is not surprising that the truce did not hold, given that both sides contain irregular units that will not pay any attention to political decisions by those who presume to control them. The Kiev side has neo-nazi militias, Svoboda and Bandera fanatics, right sector militias, and are said to have Polish volunteers and mercenaries. The separatist side is made up of local militias and are said to be assisted by Serbian volunteers and mercenaries, as well as Russian volunteers and supplies. More violence can be expected until one or both sides are exhausted. It is unlikely that Europe will do more than impose more nuisance sanctions, while it is hoped that Russia will use its natural gas weapon only if the violence escalates.
Jesus Titty Fucking...
The trouble is that no ceasefire is possible, as Poroshenko doesn't hold his troops anymore. Lots have gone rogue, mainly the Nazis like the Azov Battalion, the Donbass battalion and some others whose names escape me at the moment. All "peace talks" from the Ukies are just that: talk.
Putin got Poroshenko to legitimize the NovoRussia opposition by talking to them in Minsk. Another win for Russia.
This conflict will be over in 3 years tops, or any second. Negotiations will define Ukraine, and Moldova.
A Pro-Russian explained that they don't take Nazi prisoners. I think it was the video of the blue bus they ambushed and everybody on the bus was dead.
NAF or NovoRussians have been asking the Ukies to not fight against them, desert and to not back the criminal junta in Kiev. They do not want to kill their brothers unless they have to.
The Nazis, Poles, mercenaries, Blackwater types and Africans mercs being brought in will be shown no mercy.
That is some true
but several armored columns of up to and over 100 each units were already moving toward some of the Sep positions as the ceasefire began.
Cities shelling minutes after, but never really ever stopped..only was partial less and short lull
That is Kyiv somebody trying the same ceasefire trick as past.
Kyiv thinks follow rules are for everybody else
See my post below Volkodav. Rebel fighters had no choice but go back into combat. Ukie's were trying a Blitz under cover of cease fire. I detail it in my post below.
yep
kyiv "red" gang is predictable evil in real.
did you see video of Yats having nervous breakdown I posted?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UlwMZ2zZVc#t=39
Yes! Priceless. He is a central banker, not a war leader. He is out of his depth, does not know shit about what he is doing.
but but Nutty Cookie Nuland said he had the experience!
Off with their heads.
A long time ago in Syria, when Obama threatened a cruise missile attack on Syria, Putin got Obama to blink. And I came to the conclusion that Putin threatened Obama with 'tit for tat' warfare.
According to everything I've read about this ceasefire, the Ukrainians broke it first at Donetsk last night.
So there was a little tit-for-tatery at Mariupol the next day.
If Obama could figure that one out so should Poroshenko.
Wait til winter.
It's the Russian way, it's always worked before and it will work now.
Give the gas valve 1/4 turn and wait a couple months...
Following tweeter feeds from the battle fronts, the cease fire never really took hold in some places, though it did enjoy a large measure of support for a little while. Ukie's used the end of hostilites to begin to freely move large units with armor towards vital road junctions and towns which quickly posed a threat to Rebel positions and front lines. One large Ukie armored force began to race unhindered to a vital city on the road to Mariupol. Had this been allowed to advance under cease fire cover, it would have been equal to winning a major battle without a shot being fored. Once I saw this large troop advance, I knew this cease fire was fast going to die. It was a Kiev trick, a trick to reverse their major defeats and race to get postions they need to renew their attacks without counter moves from rebel artillery or rocket forces. Really, has rebels held to the cease fire, they may have been put back into a dangerous situation, and have lsot hard won gains, all due to a cease fire that forced them to stop using artillery and rocket forces to degrade Ukie tropp movements.
This was is on, and I doubt the rebels will get suckered a third time into a cease fire that allows wide scale advances by large Ukie units. Two times now they have stopped defending their small foothold and allowed Kiev freedom of movement.
The Kiev government signed the cease fire to stop the utter collapse of many battalions and the threat of total breakdown of their front. This cease fire was seen as a chance to flood troops and armor back into the battle zone. Rebel watched this for under 24 hours and said, fuck it, we can't not fight.
"This war is just starting"
-Kutuzov-
Jack - what is left in the Ukie armor inventory? I have been following events on Colonel Cassads web site and the NAF is destroying the Ukes. The conscripts and Ukes pushed to fight by Yats and Porkys criminal dual-citizen oligarch junta under threat to their families.
They are getting destroyed in the cauldrons and any armor is getting destroyed or abandoned. Why fight against other Ukrainains for these criminals in Kiev.
The other word is Yats and Porky are on the 4th mobilization or draft and there is not much left except kids and old men. Colonel Cassad's site is saying they are putting old BTR60/70 APCs into service along with 1930s machine guns.
Anyone know if the Hungarian T-64s have arrived yet? Those are probably pretty worthless.
Maybe the rebels will now take the new armor.
If Russia can't support Russians, they will use Uke tanks.
Worth signing. And who knows?
If we get enough signatures maybe we can embarrass Secret Chimp and the rest of the "Peanut Gallery" in Washington to make it stop!
The US and NATO are playing dirty, but what's new? The war is in their hands, their checkbook, specifically. Godspeed to the new republics in the East. The only way you can insure peace in the future is to take out the NATO puppet in Kiev.
The US and NATO are playing dirty, but what's new? The war is in their hands, their checkbook, specifically. Godspeed to the new republics in the East. The only way you can insure peace in the future is to take out the NATO puppet in Kiev.
The US and NATO are playing dirty, but what's new? The war is in their hands, their checkbook, specifically. Godspeed to the new republics in the East. The only way you can insure peace in the future is to take out the NATO puppet in Kiev.
Porkyschenko
needs to put
YATS--en--Yuk
on a short
leash
A quick check of all my sources show that it is "Game On" all across the battle zones. I think rebels are not going to be bluffed into stoping in the middle of a huge victory again! Foolish move, pressed onto them by Putin, in his bid to please the EU politicians. The USA hold all power over the EU, and Putin is wasting his time trying to divide them. It will be the US arrogance and threats against the EU that will lead to a speration of policies, NOT Putin trying to please the EU leaders, who are coopted by the Washington DC NATO crowd.
Why do you think NATO stood down? After all the rhetoric, some bare support. The cynical part of me thinks maybe US is done with Portoshenko - he has messed up too many times. I don't know but the ceasefire surprised me. Also the initial report on MH17 is going to be delivered soon.
My impression is the ceasefire was a panic by the criminal junta in Kiev and NATO because the Ukie army is falling apart. The NAF/NovoRussia was rolling over everything on the battlefield and cauldrons.
Many Ukie's conscripts realize they are being used and are being sent to slaughter by the junta scum in Kiev. They are deserting and those who end up fighting are being destroyed.
The Ukie's thought their ace in the hole was armor but the NAF is destroying Ukie tanks, BMPs and APCs with ease. No one probably expected that. The Ukie conscripts do not want to be there and the very tough NAF soldiers are fighting for their survival.
My guess is NATO and the dual-citizen oligarch vermin never guess it would go this way. Maybe the people of the Ukraine and NovoRussians will head to Kiev to remove these criminals by force.
I'm pretty sure that the Ziocons are not going to be happy when the first official NATO troops start defecting. When they do, they will live in a country freer, cheaper to live in, and one that has way, way, WAY more hot women. Just wave the white flag and they can have the freedom that they never new they were missing. A freedom that we only briefly had in the early 1800's. We've been through some serious conditioning to have us think otherwise.
Can you imagine that scene? Remember during the cold war when the occasional iron/eastern bloc pilot or border guard would defect? Remember the headlines? Something tells me that Reuters wont find room in the broadcast for that event.
Sunday was the day that the prisoner exchange between Kiev and the separatists was to take place. With all the Ukrainian violations of the cease-fire I don't think those 200 soldiers will be returned until Poroshenko's word means something more than it did Friday.
Ukraine's flagrant violations of the cease-fire cost it a company of experienced soldiers.
confirmation of delay of prisoner exchange
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140907/192707772/-LPR-Head-Luhansk-Donetsk-Repu...
downvote from me.
you assesed wrong way (my opinion) Putin's stake (apeasing EU????)
to contrary, now close to the winter, time plays for him massively.
Putin is already winning, wether there is a fight, or a cease fire.
The cease fire shows his weaknes towards Novoriossia's and his own oligarchs. I do not understand, why they all are not in Ljubljanka yet.
Well technically, There was no ceasefire violation in Mariupol tonight.
The Rus.Fed. didn't sign any ceasefire deal.
And here is a video of them, accidently getting lost deep in Ukrainian territory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIynh7rvc6w
Stop the fighting. Stop Loyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon.
Well, the "social" photo-op empty word "summit" is over where a good time was had by all in Cardiff.
Back to work and the New Normal.
At least they chose Cardiff. If they would have chosen Brussels or Paris they would never wan t to leave. They should have met in Siere Leone.
It appears that the USAIPAC/CIA/zioNazi
masterplan has hit a few snags along the way.
Initially designed as a cheap and easy
shot at Russia by deposing Yanukovich
and installing Yatsenyuk (in a kind of
Pinochet for Allende swap), followed by
having Ukraine join NATO...The next
piece of the jigsaw puzzle would be
the time-tested classic CIA/Nato
Strategy of Tension staging of a major
false flag incident that could be blamed
on Russia in order to trigger a NATO
attack that would automatically drag
all Nato members, willing or not,
into a destabilizing war against Moscow...
simple plan..the international scene was
relatively quiet, Gaddafi was out--Iraq
and Afghanistan looked like they could
be handled, and Gaza was quiet.
Unfortunately, Putin not being some
stupid, illiterate third-world punk,
immediately saw through the strategy
and annexed Crimea without shedding
a drop of blood....next, the Russian-
speaking Eastern Ukrainians, having
eaten enough shit from Kiev already
in terms of lack of adequate representation
were not, at any cost, about to place
themselves under the thumb of a
Zionist Nazi USAIPAC coup regime.
In the meantime, the rest of the middle
east went totally to hell, with Israel/Gaza
and ISIS/Iraq occupying CIA funding
and attention that otherwise could have
gone to the Kiev kleptocracy...
on top of which, the Ukrainian army wanted
no part of killing fellow Ukrainians,
which necessitated the costly employment
of massive numbers of mercenaries
to do Kiev/Kolomoisky's dirty work.....
while the Eastern Ukrainian
Freedom Fighters kept valiantly battling their
hearts out to defend their home land
and their basic human rights, dignity,
and honor. The memory of their fight
against Nazi invasion is too recent
and too close to home for them to have
forgotten and live a repeat.
All of which has brought us to where
we are now......
Th Bankers want WAR.
They do not want Oil traded in ant currency that the currency they control $US. The American Army is a Paid for Hire Corporation. The Bankers needed to be covicted of crimes against Humanity and any Lawyer that defends these criminals are sub human. May they Rot in Hell, along with their spawn.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/09/putins-chilling-kazakhstan-comments/
http://thediplomat.com/2014/09/russia-may-have-just-abducted-a-natoeu-me...
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/in-russia-speaking-...
Mariupol is also important because it has large grain silos, important for the winter.
Looks like the "deepest pockets" have lost so much money on this one already that there is a point of no return for the ones with the biggest stakes... And why would anyone be surprised with QE infinity and no tangible "asset class" to back all that funny money thats been pumped out in the last 6 years alone???!
What was true before WWII will be true for WWIII unless some of the younger and less senile generation of the Rothschild(s) and Rockefeller(s) put the older ones "to bed"!
Lets hope we hear about an accident for all the individuals represented in the read. What I wouldn't give to have an MH-370 full of them that simply disappears off the radar!!!
Bershidsky - yet another anti-Putin Jew.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/opinion/article/illusions-gone-im-l...
All over the media and press they seem to be.
Neocons bearing more gifts...
Good luck U.S. Navy. Neeldess to say nobody wants to be you between September 8 - 10.
This is an extremely interesting 9 minute video from the Donetsk Republic. It shows extraordinary
humane treatment and release of captured Ukrainian soldiers. The Christian behavior of the Donetsk Republic puts to shame the crude barbarians who rule in America and Europe and the media shills who whore for the Western barbarians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us9lPiQ9btA&list=UUdnB82ob_V7EXwwcCtB1vUg
And this is why Putin is winning the most important battle of "hearts and minds"
Great watch H Thx
+1000