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Thanks to yesterday's dismal jobs data, we now know that there has never been a lower percentage of white men over 20 working in America...

 

 

h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer

 

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Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:00 | 5189445 intric8
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Welcome to the new racism

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:02 | 5189455 NoDebt
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What are you talking about racism?  The FSA doesn't discriminate.  Any race, any religion, any age, any sex, they'll take 'em.

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:07 | 5189466 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Plenty of cheap labor out there, i.e. not white dudes.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:35 | 5189517 TeamDepends
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We noticed this at the end of help-wanted ads some twenty years ago: "Women and persons of color encouraged to apply."

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:43 | 5189674 max2205
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White is the new Black

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:38 | 5189751 intric8
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You see that chart above? As well, down is the new good, especially with financial and economic data

 

Edit: When you consider all these developments in concert - the inversion and obfuscation of our common ethos, and policy making that make no sense for the long term sustainability of America, its hard not to come to the conclusion that our country is being purposefully driven to an inferior and undesirable reality. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:02 | 5189815 economics9698
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The anti-white campaign started with Nixon and his tribe lawyers at the justice department.  By 1978 there were quotas for white guys in the military.  There was a double standard for white guys for testing, discipline, and promotions.  Reagan never changed it.  If you were a white male once your quota was meet you were eliminated from all the good jobs.  It got ridiculous with minority pilots crashing and killing themselves and others for awhile there.

I remember in 1983 at the University of South Florida in Tampa being told by the financial aid office I was the “wrong color” to receive financial aid.  The place was suffocating with the fascism dripping out of every office and classroom.

The discrimination back then was much more overt, it just never hit the middle and upper middle classes until recently, by design so as to make it appear whites were still in control.  It was hidden well but the lower class whites suffered the full brunt of discrimination.  Frankly the middle and upper classes, if they noticed, did not lift a finger to help.  Finally decades later they are getting a whiff of that shit storm coming their way.

I think everyone pretty much has caught onto the tribe’s bull shit and Texas is ready to spring loose when the fiat dies and charge the bastards gold for oil.  The sooner the breakup of the USA the sooner we can get back to living like civilized people.  This tribe shit has gone on long enough.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:01 | 5189956 schatzi
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This isn't some campaign against whites.

Participation rates have been sinking dramatically since the 70s as we all know, and the disproportionate difference comes from two things:

unemployment and poverty is less restricted to minorities only as white males enjoyed preferred employment treatment in a heavily race and gender discriminatory environment of the 60s and more importantly, that white males are part of a general socio economic evolution. In the 60s they where the exclusive breadwinners of the middle classes, but with gender equality many women have overtaken their male counterparts and become the primary breadwinners, creating stay at home dads with kids.

 

But somehow you guys will blame it all on Obama.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:09 | 5189961 Elvis the Pelvis
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Being exploited by The Man is pretty cool.  I finally have the excuse I need to dress up like a pimp.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:02 | 5190066 economics9698
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The solution is simple, break up the USA.  

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:06 | 5190123 General Decline
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That's only the first step. The tribe will then need to be dealt with. They always return to their vomit.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:28 | 5190518 Spine01
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In the last 20 years the USA has conducted the greatest transfer of wealth of the history of mankind from the USA to the rest of the world, mainly China, India and the EU.

The goal has been to minimize the probability of a RED WATERS scenario for the transition to expensive energy and maximize the probability of a BLUE WATER scenario.

The idea was that this wealth transfer would enable the creation of a world order run by the "civilized" Countries of the world (read: Italy, Germany, France, Japan, UK, USA, Russia) as defined by those same "civilized" Countries. And that world order would enable the preemption of WWIII and the destruction of human kind as we know it.

We sadly, like in any attempt of controlling a chaotic system (mathematical chaos) through central planning, the system has a way to slip out of control, thus the situation we now face.

Not good, not good at all...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 19:37 | 5192001 Enslavethechild...
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You mean there are still white people around?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:18 | 5190131 Sean7k
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Why is this crap on ZH? This is race baiting, pure and simple. Then the trolls march in with their comments on immigration (all nations have immigration and emigration depending on opportunity and exclusion). White vs black? Really?

Employment is a function of the desire to work and produce and opportunity. However, there is no exclusion from opportunity. Produce your own goods and services. Create a market for them. Black markets, cash markets, bitcoin markets. If you want to work for the state-corporation axis, then be prepared for any selectivity they care to pronounce.

The real complaint here should be squarely placed where it belongs: Elite control of the legal/financial levers of production of goods and services. We are the cogs! The machinery doesn't turn without the cogs! 

As it presently exists, there is no need for the State or Law or Currency. Perhaps a social compact could be created that is useful, but it has yet to happen in human history. We can remain slaves (all colors) or try something new.

It will not happen by fighting amongst ourselves. It will not happen by putting people in power over us, to make decisions for us, determining our live's quality. It will not come from systems of law or technology. 

It will be the result of a love of liberty, the treasure that is tolerance, the hard work of personal responsibility, the charity that cares for the less fortunate and the understanding a human's potential lies not in slavery but in possibility and dreams made reality through the hard work and practical application of all our talents. Many singular and others collective. 

We have been slaves so long, we question any other destiny. We blame others and refuse to be introspective. The buck stops with you. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:28 | 5190145 overmedicatedun...
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sean, "the buck stops with you" well in reality it's "the 2 cents stops with you".. try ,freedom is the ability to understand truth..control is the ability to hide truth.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:54 | 5190167 Sean7k
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How can a state of being be an "ability". What truth? Care to define it? Knowledge is the key to understanding anything. You are obviously overmedicated.

By the way, the Constitutional dollar is 371 1/4 grains of pure silver. You'll have a tough time getting it for 2 cents.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:49 | 5190405 cro_maat
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@Sean7k - It appears that you have stepped beyond the comfort zone of most ZH'ers LOL. I guess even most "awakened" don't want to leave the CONTROL of the Matrix completely. Most of us have 1 foot in the matrix and 1 foot out. It is hard to entirely extricate yourself, but this is the goal. I am afraid that most people do not want this expressed out loud however.

" love of liberty, the treasure that is tolerance, the hard work of personal responsibility, the charity that cares for the less fortunate and the understanding a human's potential lies not in slavery but in possibility and dreams made reality through the hard work and practical application of all our talents" - I know most ZH'ers have expressed these sentiments at one time or another profess to be guided by them.

Maybe they take exception to this: "If you want to work for the state-corporation axis, then be prepared for any selectivity they care to pronounce." This implies that the only real change to our circumstances is to say NO to all control, to create a true alternative to the stat-corporation axis that relys on a real social compact between members of humanity where feeding one's ego is not the ultimate goal. Thanks for shining a Light.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:55 | 5190415 Sean7k
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I appreciate your comment. Yet, I have seen but one argument and it was deficient. Is this what ZH has become? Other comments are eliciting similar measures. An ill wind blows...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 04:20 | 5189989 trader1
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a voice of reason emerges from the crowd.

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 16:12 | 5194944 StandardDeviant
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Speaking of reason, the graph in this article is a perfect example of how to lie with statistics, exactly as described in this 1954 classic.  The Y axis has been cut off at the bottom, with the starting point chosen so as to make the numbers look as dramatic as possible, from upper left straight down to lower right.

A drop of 16 percentage points is still very significant, but this presentation makes it look like a ~100% drop.  That's not fair play.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 02:11 | 5196604 trader1
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you're spot on.

if people start changing their perspectives by zooming out more on the BIGGER picture, then we may have a chance of transforming the human race on our little pale blue dot.  

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 05:51 | 5190009 intric8
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GET FUCKING REAL

Our president is practically rolling out the red carpet for illegal immigrants to secure cheap votes to keep dems in office till the end of time, in effect watering down votes for born and raised americans who desire the long term sustainability of our nation, and you blame it on stay at home dads? Are you so ignorant to not recognize the end game here?

Ponder the hard reality. Maybe that will help you seperate fact from your social sci-fiction

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 06:21 | 5190043 schatzi
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Ironic to see the children of immigrants become so intolerant of immigrants. I won't go into the rights and wrongs of what is happening and no doubt there are negative repercussions, but you are a nation founded on immigration. The core motivation has remained the same throughout the centuries. The search for a better life.

But yeah, I agree on one thing. White males have decided the fate of your nation for centuries, that aspect is waning. Be the cause gender/race equality or immigration. That will also mean your values that have contributed to the way the country was run, will be diluted and many of you will feel less and less represented by Washington. This alienation creates distrust, cynicism and anger I assume. I don't think there is a way back though and I say all this absolutely without spite or satisfaction.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:29 | 5190050 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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What I find interesting is that people often overlook how the Civil Rights Movement in America also liberated whites across Western society from the chokehold of cultural traditions and norms. The further to the right of the political spectrum one ventures, the more one is confronted with groups who demand that white individuals should restrict their marriage options exclusively to other whites. Few spared a thought on how oppressive these white supremacist ideals have always been to whites who happened to fall in love with someone from another ethnicity.

That was until Richard Loving and Mildred Jeter came along, and the Loving vs Virginia trial before the United States Supreme Court came to pass in 1967.

As Loving vs Virginia was nothing short of historic in its day, so too will the growing number of whites who opt to marry non-whites have profound social & political implications for Western society today. Right-wing extremism and white supremacy are already facing an existential crisis over this phenomenon, and mainstream politics seem to be following suit. This begs the question: How will conservative elements within minority groups, themselves, respond to these social changes?  Will they simply acquiesce as these changes start to touch upon their own notions of cultural traditions and norms? Or will they instead begin to look upon white supremacy's notions of "racial purity" with a misplaced sense of solidarity and understanding?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:01 | 5190173 intric8
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..implying white supremacy, how whites should be thankful to minorities for "liberating" them and why white chicks shouldnt feel guilty going for black cock..

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:03 | 5190273 Kobe Beef
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White men are supreme. 

Don't believe me? Have a Boycott the Product of White Men Day. Unplug every piece of technology, flush your meds, set fire to your home, and go live in a mud hut. Enjoy your cultural enrichment. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:37 | 5190983 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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I'd advise the both of you to seek the immediate attention of an experienced psychiatrist.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:57 | 5191029 Kobe Beef
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I'd advise you to seek a historian. We built the modern world. Everyone else is just visiting.

"I'd rather you just said thank you and walk away."

Or you could google street view (because multikultists wouldn't actually go there) large sections of Baltimore, St. Louis, Atlanta, Oakland, Detroit, Birmingham, Camden, etc and get a pretty accurate picture of what the vibrants are capable of. Except the homes, hospitals, schools, churches, storefronts, factories, farms, cars, street lights, paved roads, telephone poles, bridges and curbs white men built would still be in those pictures. For now. 

You cannot, even in the interest of fairness and charity toward all, legislate opportunity away from the capable to the incapable and expect the same degree of civilization. People are not fungible. And some are downright undesirable.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:58 | 5191209 TheMeatTrapper
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"What I find interesting is that people often overlook how the Civil Rights Movement in America also liberated whites across Western society from the chokehold of cultural traditions and norms."

Exactly WHAT THE FUCK do you know about the civil rights movement? 

Some of us here actually had US troops stationed on our streets during that time because we actually lived through it.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 06:49 | 5190057 trader1
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the way back is understanding that we are all ONE.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:06 | 5190068 schatzi
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To be fair, your dissatisfaction with immigration deserves more that just a flippant "well you're a nation of immigrants". It made me think and I believe the core issue lies somewhere else. Immigration 100 years ago had little direct impact on the lives of others. Why? Because government participation in economic activity was at a minimum. Today it is as at record highs. Government decisions impact the economy more than they ever did. High taxes, social welware, healthcare etc. All these government activities affect our pocket directly. 100 years ago people come to your country to build their own lives under the premise of doing it themselves. Now I assume many come immediatly expecting services paid for by others. Which is fine as long as there isn't systemic abuse of that generosity and a willingness to contribute themselves. Pure welfare immigration is system abuse and will eventually backfire. Those that genuinely come to achieve a better life through their own hard work, will find a more hostile environment in the future.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:29 | 5190091 intric8
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The population of our country was founded on immigration. So what? That is no excuse to continue an open door, non-enforced immigration policy going forward, especially when you consider the fiscal situation america is now in. We need to take care of our own, NOW. At such time when we can afford it, let some measure of immigrants in again.

The u.s. system is so gameable that its laughable and infuriating. I personally know of filipino women who get pregnant, travel to the u.s. while six months pregnant, give birth there and go home bragging about how their child is a u.s. citizen. The chinese also are experts at working the system. To these people, their children will never understand what being american really is nor have true loyalty to the country. These shenanigans undermine the integrity if our population.

The hypocrisy isnt with americans who resent this behavior when their forefathers were themselves immigrants; its with those from other countries whose governments would never allow the proportional volume of immigration america sees. You think the philippines, korea, japan or sweden would extend privileges to masses of sri lankans or nigerians slipping across their borders? Its an issue of money and sustainability. Eventually, that country gets eaten inside out footing the bill for such illegals. Any society needs to be run like a business, plain and simple.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:37 | 5190101 economics9698
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The difference is 100 IQ versus 93 IQ people

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:06 | 5191227 Kobe Beef
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93 is being exceedingly generous.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:23 | 5190134 paddyirishman
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i agree with most of what you say, but Sweden is being swamped with third worlders a situtation created by the chosen ones/tribe, check out barbara spectar on youtube an evil kike if there ever was, what you should be writing is that multiculturalism is only being forced on white countries, israel kicks out all non jew immigrants while they encourage and help to destroy white countries.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 20:28 | 5192155 paddyirishman
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we have at least two kikes/traitorous goyims on zerohedge

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:03 | 5190180 Blazed
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Founded on immigration, but of a specific nature, European, not third world.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:15 | 5190201 trader1
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you are blazed on the synthetic

overdependent on outmoded abstractions.

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:23 | 5190750 Greenie
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One needs to study the Immigration Act of 1965 to truely understand why immigration from that point forward was something entirely different from earlier immigration.

The 1965 act marked a radical break from the immigration policies of the past. The law as it stood then excluded Asians and Africans and preferred northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern ones.[2] At the height of the civil rights movement of the 1960s the law was seen as an embarrassment by, among others, President John F. Kennedy, who called the then-quota-system "nearly intolerable".[3] After Kennedy's assassination, President Lyndon Johnson signed the bill at the foot of the Statue of Liberty as a symbolic gesture.

In order to convince the American people of the legislation's merits, its proponents assured that passage would not influence America's culture significantly. President Johnson called the bill "not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions",[4] while Secretary of State Dean Rusk estimated only a few thousand Indian immigrants over the next five years, and other politicians, including Senator Ted Kennedy, hastened to reassure the populace that the demographic mix would not be affected; these assertions would later prove grossly inaccurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:29 | 5190209 25or6to4
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Intric8
Great post but scratch Sweden off your list. They let every Tom,Dick and Harry in from the third world .

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:21 | 5190288 WakeUpPeeeeeople
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Several years ago, 9/11 timeframe, I came across several apartment buildings located pretty much in the middle of nowhere a few miles outside of Stockholm. The only people I saw in the area were very black and also very tall. Not sure where they were from. Also, in and around Stockholm there are a fair number of "black folk" though nothing like here. Did notice that they seemed to be more prevalant after dark.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:01 | 5190880 25or6to4
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Wakeup
Compare your experience to mine when I was an exchange student to Sweden way back in 79' to 80'. Only bumped into on black guy the entire time and he was a exchange student from Nigeria. Although by no means perfect, swedes had it made before they decided to give it all away to trash from the third world. White guilt is a powerful force.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:06 | 5190899 quadratic_equation
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I agree with you even though I came from the background you mentioned.  I know of a lot of people that not only giving birth in the US (anchor babies) but liquidating all their assets and moving them to their native countries; meanwhile, living partime in the USA recieving social security, medicare, medicaid, EBT, housing and some cash for entertainment.

All immigration should be stopped.  Yes, we are a nation of immigrants but that was before when the population was tolerable relative to our economy and available living (jobs) but not anymore.  I'm not willing to give up share of what I have to the new comers.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:10 | 5190706 Leraconteur
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White males have decided the fate of your nation for centuries,

 

You make this far too easy.

The immigrants that came LEGALLY to the USA are of all races, genders, and creeds. It wasn't only white men. This is about rewarding LEGAL immigration in a controlled manner, not allowing unrestricted ILLEGAL immigration.

If you want to try and Red Herring my response, you should know that Mom's side is American Indian (GGma) and Dad's side came here in 1630.

The only way I could be more American is if I had Mexican/Spaniard bloodlines as well.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 06:24 | 5190045 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Schatzi: Perfectly summarized.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:47 | 5190396 DeadFred
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It is good to know that the FSA isn't a racist organization

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:33 | 5190783 casfoto
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The white men were the breadwinners of the middle class...most were very hard workers and generally did what it took to shoulder the responsibilites of the familes.. ....then corporate decided to raise the bar with inflation kicking in and pushing women into working which caused several problems, especially in stability. So, as women were paid less than men, they took over a lot of the jobs and then it became a system where children were left alone after school and a whole new set of problems arrived. And, as time went on the prices of living cost more and more and now it is tough for a family with two breadwinners to make it. So, it is not Obamas fault obviously but for the past 30 years the white man has been preyed upon ...in ads, they show good looking white women and good looking black men and then they push the white male into a subserviant role...usually bald, overweight and stupid. TV ads show white women berrating their husbands for being dolts. The magazines are now loaded with blacks and women....totally out of proportion to the statistical elements of our population. So the physcological put down of white men have really ended up building anger amongst the community.. male and female alike. It will be interesting to see how this social problem plays out over the next generation.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:06 | 5190900 Conor
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They say they want equality but they really want retribution.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:15 | 5191096 Kobe Beef
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Retribution for what? taking them out of the Stone Age? giving them homes, televisions, and hospitals?

Please, it's not even retribution. It's just envy.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 04:50 | 5190001 Oracle 911
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How is that poem from Martin Niemöller Lutheran pastor and concentration camp (British innovation) survivor:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Well, the middle and upper classes were remained silent and now "they" came for them. Karma is a bitch.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:25 | 5190140 paddyirishman
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except its the jews bringing about mass immigration to white countries, who was behind the 1965 immigration act to the us in 1965 which favoured non european immigration, check out barbara spectar and her like who are encouraging mass immigration to europe, p.s there was no holocaust

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:33 | 5190782 Greenie
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The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 was proposed by Emanuel Cellar, representative from New York. Celler was born in Brooklyn, the son of Josephine (née Müller) and Henry H. Celler. All of his grandparents immigrated from Germany; his paternal grandparents and maternal grandmother were Jewish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Celler

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:32 | 5190217 Burticus
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The western banking/financial/currency system is doomed and when it collapses, the United State_ will be relegated to third world status, taking Texas, Florida and the other states with it.  For this reason, I independently reached the same conclusion as other ZH posters that the only political solution available is secession, as my ancestors concluded in 1776 and 1860 (when Lincoln, the worst president, decreed that membership in the union was no longer voluntary).

http://freeflorida.org/

http://leagueofthesouth.com/

http://dixienet.org/

Unfortunately, due to the dumbed-down, dependent sheeple described in Ty Andros' "Useful Idiots" series, a political solution may not available in the time remaining, leaving only Plan C and Plan D.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:53 | 5190248 MalteseFalcon
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"The anti-white campaign started with Nixon"

That dyed-in-the wool conservative, Richard Nixon.

- gold window closure

- affirmative action

- forced busing

- wage price controls

- interventionist foreign policy

- EPA

- DEA

and on and on.

He should have done jail time, IMHO.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:26 | 5190763 Leraconteur
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My brothers and I were all around the kitchen table, ~1977 +- a year, and Mom said: "I feel sorry for you boys. You are just normal, white, kids, but the way the world is going you are not going to have an easy time of it..."

Mom is a smart lady.

She saw the PC bullshit train leaving the station and knew where it led.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 07:24 | 5192947 snodgrass
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Tribalism was started to replace nationalism. The globalists want to destroy nations and replace them with company plantations where the serfs labor away, microchipped and managed.

The tribalism crap kicked into high gear with Clinton with the old divide and conquer strategy of encouraging every group of losers to form their own tribe, except white men of course. White men are assciated with individualism, individual rights and freedom. Those are the worst things to the globalists and why when white men form groups to protect their rights they are labeled "racist" "Nazi-like" "hate groups" "terrorists" etc. The hypocrisy of every other group forming to protect their interests against those of white men, except those at the top running the show, should have been apparent to everyone by now.

The elete also have used tribalism to give their own offspring an advantage and to keep their competitors at a disadvantage. Look at the hypocrisy of the Clintons and their ugly daughter being given positons other have earned but can't get because slobs like the Clintons make sure their offspring take those positions.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:17 | 5189841 RaceToTheBottom
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Isn't a white person a person of color?  Isn't white a color?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:24 | 5189849 FredFlintstone
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No a white person is a genetic defect. I heard this come from a black female from academia pronounce this on public television about 20 to 25 years ago. The white female interviewing her did not challenge this and it was surprising to me that it made it on the air.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:27 | 5189898 cynicalskeptic
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A genetic adaptation for climates with less sun - evolving as man moved out of Africa.   The same goes for lactose tolerance.  Darwinian evolution favoring genetic changes that prove beneficial or give those possessing it advantages.

From the same perspective, sickle cell anemia - a defect in the way red blood cells form - has a positive effect that offsets the negatives in conferring a higher resistance to malaria.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 06:21 | 5190042 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Has it occurred to you that ignorant racists are a vocal minority in each population? The danger is when they begin to galvanise the silent majority in their favor, typically through economic arguments. This is precisely what happened in the Germany of the 1930s.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:26 | 5190211 intric8
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You are more Pwhipped by the tribe than i first thought. How about those instances in history where minority thinking actually resulted in the greater good?

and just to clarify your generalization of whites as 'ignorant racists', unfair characterization that it is, does a white american concerned about our lax illegal immigration policies qualify as such? Here you are, trotting out nazi tripe at first opportunity.

You see why whites will increasingly be targets of reverse racism?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 16:05 | 5194911 StandardDeviant
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He wasn't addressing 'ignorant racists' to whites in general; only to people like you.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:56 | 5190253 MalteseFalcon
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Eirik Magnus Larssen, are you an American?  If not, I intend to completely discount your opinion on strictly American issues. 

That applies to all toffee-nosed Europeans.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:25 | 5190314 intric8
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He doesn't understand it, and neither do the citizens of his country. America can no longer accomodate wholesale immigration. People living in non-u.s. countries want to come to the u.s. to send usd home to their families. They want a "better life", even at the expense of many Americans who are already struggling to find jobs and make ends meet. Our countries' economies may have been able to rebound in the past and absorb a larger labor force, but not anymore. Outsourcing and global wage arbitrage have ensured that, and they are here to stay. 

The most critical issue America has ever faced has been thrust upon us, and its the LONG TERM VIABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR COUNTRY. The chances of america making it out of this mess seems pretty damn forbidding. We don't need droves of immigrants and illegals piling up and complicating the matter further.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:18 | 5191438 Gavrikon
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"Racism" is the exact opposite of ignorance.  

Diversity = Death.

And you are either blind or an idiot.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:09 | 5191234 VegasBob
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I started seeing that crap back in 1977, which was 37 years ago.  The words "Women and minorities encouraged to apply" in the help-wanted ads from those days are seared into my brain.  Fuck you, Jimmy Carter.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:37 | 5189520 Jendrzejczyk
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I'm an old ass white dude and often refer to myself as a dinosaur. White, 50 and in the trades.

Never begrudge the younger ones that are filing the gaps left by my generation, no matter where they come from.

There are still plenty of people (will never be able to use "folks" again) willing to pay my higher price for the experience and easier communication.

Relying on the bargin hunter consumer is a tough row to hoe in any business.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:51 | 5189552 Oldwood
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The face of social justice, and it ain't white.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:27 | 5189621 Greenskeeper_Carl
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really? do you have some numbers to back up that statement? Now, if you said something like "on a percentage basis, black people are more likely than white people to live off govt benefits" you would be correct. However, on a purely numbers basis, there are more white people living off food stamps, etc, than any other race. So, yes, the face of 'social justice' is white. I point this out because you seem like you are falling for their trap. White people get angry at black people for living off govt benefits, while black people get mad at white people because they are 'rich' and havent paid their 'fair share'. the end result is that when our current system inevitably comes unglued, you get those two groups out in the streets, fucking each other up, while the real culprit in all this, an overtaxing and redistributionist govt in collusion with a money printing and currency debasing fed, gets a pass due to the average person falling for that kind of BS and directing their anger at each other rather than the true culprit. and while that is happening, you can be gauranteed that some new police state-type law will be put in place that will harm us all

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:06 | 5189825 economics9698
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Gold standard.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 02:03 | 5189934 SeattleBruce
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Right - divide and conquer is definitely part of their SOPs.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:45 | 5190160 GoldenTool
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The fact that this post has 29 down arrows makes me sad.  I now realize there will be no getting through this and coming out better for it.  I had hoped people would be smarter and able, hell even willing, to peel back the onion a bit...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:15 | 5190304 NidStyles
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Quit being a utopian and you won't be so disappointed. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 09:57 | 5190257 Sean7k
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Anyone can hit an arrow button Carl. I don't see much in the way of an argument. Nice comment.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:49 | 5190404 NoPension
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Sean and Carl. Follow closely you two numbnuts.

It's about percentages. Non-whites are still a minority PERCENTAGE of the population, but their PERCENTAGE of things such as out of wedlock births, crime statistics, welfare rolls etc., top the charts.
Of course whites, on a numerical basis, have larger numbers. But the overall percentage of fucktupidness is lower

Do you now feel more enlightened? I fuckin doubt it.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:08 | 5190436 Sean7k
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Why would I feel enlightened? Your comment fails to address employment in the 25-40 age group. It fails to address the growth in female employment. It fails to consider that a percentage will fall if the particular group represents a smaller part of the population as a whole. 

It would be easy to create a scapegoat for all the problems of the US and make it black or brown, but you seem to forget the Elites are predominately white males. So, whom is the REAL enemy here? Which group is maintaining the tyranny that enslaves us all? 

Now, follow closely numbnuts: the enemy is the State, The Law and The Central Banksters. It is NOT MIchael Brown. WE have the power to deny acceptance of the status quo in all it's guises. It will not happen by segregating people by race or class. It will happen when we stop supporting the State. As many of us, of every stripe which believe in freedom and opportunity for all. 

Do you feel more enlightened? I hope so.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:29 | 5190525 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Im well aware of that, which i touched on in my post. My point was that there are a LARGER NUMBER of white people who do all of these things than black people. So, using that information, who is sucking up more taxpayer dollars as a race? Also, let us not forget, George Soros and warren buffett are the biggest welfare queens on the planet. As I write this, Im at 33 dwnvotes, and not one person had bothered to make a reasoned response telling me how I am wrong. What a bunch of cowards

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:34 | 5190364 newworldorder
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Here are some issues to consider, and don't take them as anti black blame. As a society, including individual and group indorsement by black snd white citizens and groups.

- We have aborted 50 million citizens, majority of them black, since the start of the women's lib movement. Why?

- We are importing 30 million Mexicans to do the work that unemployed American allegedly wont do. Why?

-  Most black Leaders that come to mind, have demonized their fellow white citizens since the 1970's. Why? Where is the racial healing?

- Black on Black crime takes more black lives than ever. Only the muffled cries of the victims can be heard. Why?

- Democratic Party Leadership has kept blacks  segregated in black communities. Not a peep is heard against the Democratic party. Why?

 

I will also say this.

There were a lot of white boys 18 to 25 and a lot of whites and blacks who experienced life in war during Viet Nam and came to appreciate each other as men and not just black and white.  What happened to those 18 to 25 year olds who saw Kennedy and MLK assassinated? What happened to all that good will and determination to make a better America?

I dont have the answers, but I will take a guess that they are now old or in the grave? The hope for change dissipated, the endless blame and the constant refrain of racism, wears heavy. The weight of "blame racism" can be carried so long before it is rejected by those that carry it.

There have been many opportunities lost to make a better America. Many whites have given up trying to be allies in the healing. The new problem in America is not white racism. As Black citizens will find out, it will be when the Hispanic population reaches over 30% within one generation, blacks and whites, will become even more disenfranchised in the land of their birth.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:13 | 5189600 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Scratching my head as to why that got the down votes. People who think the whole living off govt free shit doesn't include plenty of white people are delusional. You guys are playing right into their hands if you think this is purely a race issue.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:38 | 5189665 Doug
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Correct.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:45 | 5189671 Kirk2NCC1701
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Fine...
"It's not a Race issue. TPTB disdain ALL races equally. It's a small Club, and you ain't in it. Nor am I."

Does that work for you?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:45 | 5189678 nmewn
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Me thinks "the Tylers" are luring a few people out of their septic tank holes, which is a good thing.

If anyone thinks this is "No Country for White Men" over 20 they should look at a graph of black men 15 to 25 ;-)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:00 | 5190267 Sean7k
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Based on the comments, they may end up a septic tank themselves...How do you get 12 reds for that?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:41 | 5189775 Kreditanstalt
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LOTS of ZHers worship the government, thinking it is "the nation" or "the country".

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:56 | 5189809 NoDebt
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I have not noticed that tendency.  To the contrary, I've found few places where government is seen as less representative of the nation than on ZH.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 10:00 | 5190263 MalteseFalcon
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I don't, and I cast my vote accordingly.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:05 | 5189958 dolbiere
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it's an anti-christian movement.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:58 | 5189982 highly debtful
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@Greenskeeper_Carl Yes, I didn't get that one either. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:40 | 5189668 zorba THE GREEK
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Black is beautiful, tan is grand, but white be the color of the big boss man.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 05:04 | 5190008 williambanzai7
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Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:40 | 5190811 boogerbently
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"there has never been a lower percentage of white men over 20 working in America..."

So, we're achieving "equality".

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:35 | 5189513 Ben Ghazi
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White people are too smart to work "on the books".

 

They run a cash only business and are never counted as "working".

As a bonus of this, they can claim unemployment benefits, if quiet.

Shhhhhh......................................................be very very quiet.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:05 | 5189577 daveO
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Exactly. I've known several that have worked for cash. This is also how people survived in the USSR toward the end. We can't be far behind then now. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:39 | 5189526 williambanzai7
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Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:49 | 5189686 WOAR
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Only $3000-$5000 a year? Why, all these people on the internet keep telling me I can make that in a week!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 04:34 | 5189996 juan323
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Go read Charles Murray's book Coming Apart and say what you just said. "Whites" are deteriorating as a good reference group with which to compare others to. The white working class is really tattered. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:20 | 5190482 garypaul
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White men are getting really lazy. The statistics prove it.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:01 | 5189447 CH1
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Long black markets.

Not all of them will stoop to food stamps.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:01 | 5189448 90's Child
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That's because all the Africans are workin for the rich white man right?

Must be.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:04 | 5189461 I am Jobe
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Rich White Men prefer Mexicans. Asians than white bous, they squeal like pigs and too pussified

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:31 | 5189854 intric8
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Most be workin for a homeboy, until the next presedential election

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:02 | 5189449 StagStopa
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#stormfront

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:46 | 5189681 nmewn
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A yep.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:36 | 5189970 blabam
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OMG white is mentioned!!! RAycIS wubsite

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:46 | 5190107 nmewn
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Divide & conquer. "Keep everyone at each others throats lest they come for my throat!" - I wonder who would ever have pondered or implemented a strategy like that.

(Thought experiments are fun...lol)

You know its funny when you think about it. If I started the United Caucasion College Fund the self professed enlightened (really just the illiterate indoctrinated moonbats) of this nation would be firmly convinced that I'm a razzzist. Naturally my response to them would be, you hate the white children of Appalachia? Why? 

Next we have the NAACP. What is the main qualification to become a member in good standing there?

Quid pro quo, Clarice ;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:02 | 5189452 jo6pac
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Hell there isn't good paying jobs for anyone. I wonder when mcmac runs out customers when we all make $1.00 per hr do to new trade agreements. Go elite, to hell

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:05 | 5189463 babylon15
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Sure there are good paying jobs, just gotta be a fireman, police officer, or teacher in San Diego, Trenton, or Chicago.  Retire at age 50 with 75% of your $90,000 salary for the rest of your life.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:12 | 5189473 knukles
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Don't forget yer cola.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:29 | 5189903 cynicalskeptic
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yeah... we'll see how long those premium pensions and benefits last........

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:36 | 5190097 luckystars
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In San Fran there are only old white cops and firemen. The chief of Fire is a woman, kinda...

The only hires now are Chinese since the mayor stole the election.

The bus drivers are all "people of color" yet the taxpayers are majority and they are white.

When you complain they tell you to move to another town.

Thats what I tell all young white guys looking for work........move this town hates you.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:20 | 5189487 Miffed Microbio...
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My neighbor ( sheriff in San Diego) just retired at the insistence of his wife. He had told me long ago he was going to retire on 97% salary. I thought that was overly generous. When his wife told me her reasons for pushing his retirement ( I was tired of him making $3/ hr) I was a tad pissed off.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:21 | 5189617 Doug
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Long Island, the average cop is pulling in 150K/yr, PLUS benefits.  I live in a nice town and the biggest houses on the block are all owned by cops or retired teachers, who spend most of their time in the driveways working on their custom $250K corvettes.  Just sayin'.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:27 | 5189749 Bananamerican
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They call it the "$100,000 club"...
In my SoCal town 1/4 of the "public savants" (Fire, PD, Teachers) are in it.
Around here we call it "the government cheese"

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:11 | 5189590 williambanzai7
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Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:02 | 5189454 I am Jobe
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Relax- Right after ICRAP Relase all will be well.

 

Meanwhile they are standing in line, dressing up and wanting to be Girls . Long on MetroSexual USSA

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:03 | 5189460 NoDebt
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It's just that all the old white guys are retired now.  Uh huh.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:13 | 5189474 daxtonbrown
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Maybe not retired. I'm 61 and not showing up in the labor statistics. But I work my investments, business startups etc. every day. Maybe some of us have just gone Galt.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:33 | 5189647 NoDebt
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It was sarcasm.  Take the "retired" out and that line probably wouldn't look much different.

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:10 | 5189469 Coletrane
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that has been the plan all along

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:11 | 5189471 knukles
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I note several comments about "pussification" and MetroSexual, etc.
One of my best bud's wife's is in a fairly large business's HR department and she has even said that the years old trends in the prerceptions management and socialization of white males (TV, film, ads, etc.) is starting to truly show in that they're having trouble finding qualitfed male candidates to fill positions of "leadership" where a stereotypical dominant male is needed.
Seriously.
This is from an HR person looking for a "few good men" and having trouble finding them
Lots of laid back, golly gee wiz, no balls, drive or strength of character guys to be found.
Just watch any of the standard sitcoms.  White males are depicted as the clueless gutless dumb-ass centers of ridicule.
Ain't a fuckin' accident.
Perceptions Management, my friends is alive well and doing exactly as designed.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:21 | 5189488 I am Jobe
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I have noticed very many young guys now in a very feminine. I think this is a well designed plan. The pussification is working and will be full scale in 5 or so years. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:36 | 5189521 Skateboarder
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Domestication of the male human... distrubing stuff.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:03 | 5189572 Oldwood
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I keep saying, we are being managed as you would livestock. There is a reason they castrate the male livestock and they are doing the same with us, starting with the dominant race, whites. It will eventually work its way down to all races. The mainstreaming of homosexuals is all part of this as well. Using diversity as another tool of disarmament.

Evil fucking white men...and the primary threat of our time, white male caused climate change.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:36 | 5189757 Bananamerican
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And don't forget the adderall for little "hyperactive" Johnny....and no running, jumping, touching, yelling on the playground....it's very "inappropriate"...
And you're a bit late to the newest diversity party Oldwood.
Transgender mainstreaming (must be hundreds of thousands of 'em) is the new social "struggle"

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 05:00 | 5190006 teslaberry
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male castrated goats are called 'whethers' and are considered the best for having a 'pet' goat, better than females (though they don't neuter female goats so you could compare i guess) . 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:21 | 5189619 Dave Thomas
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It started with sesame street.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:30 | 5189753 FredFlintstone
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and Mr. Rogers.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:00 | 5189569 daveO
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In the 90's they all wanted to be wiggers. That was designed, too. The schools tell the white boys they are at the bottom of the totem pole. The boys start identifying with those above them. When I was in school, 30 years ago, there were already a few trying to be wiggers. I specifically told one to trash his TV before it ruined his life. Last time I saw him he was dressing like a white man. The job market still won't hire w(n)iggers. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:49 | 5189688 Lost Word
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It is the result of water pollution of estrogen type chemicals,

also found in plastics used for food and water containers,

the estrogen type chemicals turning males into females.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:56 | 5189811 Treason Season
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Don't forget the flip-flops. Give you manboobs.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 02:52 | 5189949 Treason Season
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Excuse Me? 4 down votes! What do you think flip-flops are made of and constant wear against your soles does to said chemicals? Endocrine system. Whatever.

On edit.

Here you go mullet brains;

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/24/europe-ban...

Plastic Shoes from China to be Recalled Over Chemical Concerns in Taiwan

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20110120000049&c...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 04:30 | 5189994 Skateboarder
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Shut the fuck up and buy yerself a nice pair of flippers. Your feet will thank you:

http://www.amazon.com/OluKai-Ohana-Leather-Sandal-Mens/dp/B004NSPMMQ

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:23 | 5189498 UP Forester
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You can find them in rural areas.

Ain't no way I'm moving to a militarized-police multi-culti LGBT victim-disarmament zone just to pay triple the price for housing, commuting 2 hours and worrying about my life to work for a few years before my job gets shipped to China.

Fuck that, and I'm not getting stuck in a death-trap when things go tits-up.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:37 | 5189522 Andre
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She probably won't find them, or keep them if she does. Large companies (and many small ones) are run by women or feminized men - try any of the old-fashioned "get your shit together" talk when it's called for, or get assertive, you WILL be fired.

I hope your bud's wife is different, but another issue is they say one thing and do another. Miffed seems a great sort, but for most of the ones I've met, you are SO spot on.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:52 | 5189557 daveO
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Thanks to the EEOC, etc. corporations are now the domain for women 'worker bees'.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:29 | 5189852 newworldorder
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Why the downvotes?

Look to the hard occupations, where technical ability, credentials, accreditations, licensing and money making ability by ringing the cash register, are required. I respect any woman or minority who can cut it. Also look to the soft occupations, where malleability, and double speak are the order of the day.

There you will find the greatest concentration of Female Liberal Arts grads in management positions. It is the corporate repository for Affirmative Action hires. Very definable and present in most corporations.  

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:06 | 5189580 GooseShtepping Moron
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In my experience it has been exactly the opposite. The company I was formerly employed at was loaded up with middle managers who were belicose Type-A's and who didn't know shit about what they were actually doing, who thought that abusing people and running off good workers was leadership, and who typically ran their departments into the ground within a year or two. Until I saw such incompetence in action, I never would have imagined the possibility of it.

As a result of this and other structural deficiencies in their management philosophy, there is now absolutely no one in their promotion pool, and key positions are going unfilled in spite of the fact that many millions of people are without a job today. The long and the short of it is that nobody wants to work there. I coined a little phrase when discussing this situation with others: "It's not just an HR problem, it's a demographic problem," I say. The company has now reached a point of no return where there is simply no way that they can hire enough qualified people quickly enough to reverse their inevitable decline. Watching these lowlifes destroy a once profitable and respected company with strong local ties has been both heartbreaking and alarming.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 22:25 | 5189627 Dave Thomas
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How dare they use Bob's visage, it was always about a big big joke. They failed.

 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:23 | 5189738 TheMeatTrapper
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What I'm seeing, and living, on a daily basis is something along the following lines:

We have an IT project. We assign a high level project manager who is female and knows nothing about IT; but she's agreed to forsake her traditional responsibilities to her family in return for money and promotion. She was chosen for her willingness to do anything - no matter what. 

She knows deep down that she needs an alpha male to actually deliver results. She finds one and puts up with his independent and impudent streak only because she knows she cannot succeed without him. 

He is assigned a team of developers. He gets two white guys that actually do the work, stay late, work from home, work over holidays and actually solve the problems and make shit happen. 

He gets two Indians who are in night school getting a useless MBA - they are unavailable after hours to solve problems because they are advancing their careers and building political alliances and padding their resumes. 

He gets a token black guy, who he's forced to assign only the simplest of tasks to so he can then give a favorable review to his female boss. The women love to "prove" that blacks can actually write code.

He gets a divorced female who is never required to travel, never required to work late and never required to be on conference calls at 2AM because being a single mother - she's special. 

She then gets to strut around proclaiming how she does everything the men do. 

So for every ten people with a job - the actual work is done by a select few - and yeah - they're white guys. And we're getting real sick of it. 

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:24 | 5189745 FredFlintstone
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Ha, love it. I see similar things where I work.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:35 | 5189765 himaroid
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They are going to work us to death.  I expend a lot of energy turning away business. I wish there had been this much business out there when I was younger. Back then we all fought like hell for it. Now fewer and fewer have the ability, skill, experience and work ethic. Incompetence is beginning to really tell on the world (sigh).  I am tired, going to bed. Good night.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 23:41 | 5189774 FredFlintstone
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I hope to get out before I get old.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 00:34 | 5189855 SocialismIsCancer
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Get armed and learn how to shoot accurately if you want to "vote" for a real change.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 01:36 | 5189910 I Write Code
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One gig I had at Megabank, the "team" for all our virtual meetings was over 20 people, *I* was the only one, y'know, writing code.  There were maybe three others of the 20+ born in the US, the PM was (of course) a woman.  The "manager" was an H-1B didn't know his ass from grass, and the 200+ group manager was a white American male and all, but he was invisible, had no actual involvement with anything that I could see, and repeatedly forgot to attend big group meetings that he called.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 07:20 | 5190076 hairInTheSoup
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analyst & coders (problem solvers with high analytical skills but not enough blahblah skills ie "i wear a tie and i make wind with my mouth using words such as web 2.0 or now 3.0 so i am the best project manager ever") are the slaves of the 21st century.

nothing would happen without us, yet we get paid like shit, most often on contract basis, never get descent or well thought specs so we are to do their project manager job as a  free consultancy & then are expected to work weekend so to reach deadlines they could not meet  for their parts but we have to, and of course while they are away in some 5* with their mistress.

me i  told them to fuck off, now i volunteer for some poor ngo & i develop forex algos for me to trade in quiet times

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 03:25 | 5192783 Leraconteur
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If your skills had value, you would be paid more. Sure, if they kept the H1B''s off shore, you would earn more money, but you have engineer brain, and lack soft skills, and those soft skills pay better.

You are the equivalent of a Chinese day labourer with a shovel. There are one hundred million who can do your job.

Here is why you don't earn the bucks:

never get descent or well thought specs 

 

That is intentional. I know that YOU cannot grok why, but those of us above you in mgmt know exactly why.

 

then are expected to work weekend so to reach deadlines they could not meet  for their parts but we have to, and of course while they are away in some 5* with their mistress.

 

Look at your statement. Who is more intelligent? The guy working weekend evenings, or the guy who got you to work weekend evenings and is staying at a Westin with his gf? Seems to me you are not as clever as you think you are.

You may not like it, but that's how the world rolls.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 03:49 | 5189978 NoPension
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Look at a picture or old movie of NASA flight control, when we were putting men on the moon. White guys with crew cuts and pocket protectors.
Today, we are not landing on the moon, and it's not hard to see why. A politically correct flight control would blow shit up.

But more than likely, I'm just an old racist. No worries, I'll be dead soon enough.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 06:00 | 5190029 Leraconteur
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The good news is many young men think as you do.

This idea that conservative ideas will die with old white men...ha. Not gonna happen.

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