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Where Is Russia On The Road To Recreating USSR 2.0?
Given the 2008 Russian invasion of Georgia and escalating conflict between Russia and the Ukraine, JPMorgan asks, where is Russia on the road to recreating something like the Soviet Union as an economic, political and financial counterweight to the West?
Via JPMorgan's CIO Michael Cembalest,
This is more art than science, but I think there are ways of quantifying it.
Let’s take all Warsaw Pact/ CoMEcon/Soviet orbit countries of the 1980s (this is a big region; its current GDP is similar to Russia, and its trade is 2.5x larger).
Some have willingly and enthusiastically re-entered the Russian sphere of influence, such as early entrants and applicants into the Russian-sponsored Eurasian Economic Union (e.g., Belarus, Kazakhstan).
At the other end of the spectrum, there are countries that exist under the umbrella of NATO and/or the European Union (Poland, Baltic States, etc).
In the middle, there are 2 variations: countries with their own political and economic ambitions, but which differ in terms of the risk of being subject to Russian military and economic influence.
We then examine economic, human capital and geologic indicators and figure out how much of each has re-entered the Russian orbit. For example, when looking at the first bar showing the current GDP of countries in the old Soviet Bloc, ~70% now falls under the NATO/EU umbrella, and another 8% is at low risk of Russian influence.
While today’s Russian orbit countries interact with more economic independence than the “vassal states” of the old USSR, let’s assume for the sake of argument that this orbit functions as a coordinated bloc. As shown in the chart, the Russian orbit now includes much of the fossil fuel and mineral wealth of the old Soviet Bloc, and in the case of oil, most of it. There have also been substantial Russian orbit gains in arable land. However, when looking at broader measures of economic strength (GDP, trade, capital formation, portfolio investment, patent filings/ innovation), most has either been integrated with the West or with China (e.g., Mongolia), or is in my (subjective) view at low risk of an “unwilling” integration with Russia.
While the Russian Federation may be plotting an increasingly divergent course from the West, the economic and political independence achieved by most Soviet Bloc countries in the early 1990’s does not appear at risk of being meaningfully reversed or morphing into USSR 2.0.
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Via JPMorgan's CIO Michael Cembalest,
Go fuck yourself.
Nato is moving east, dildo.
When you decide to write an article about the state of Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, Yemen, and Afghanistan after recent US/NATO intervention, I might read it.
Oh yeah, WHY AREN'T YOU FUCKERS IN JAIL?
Presented without comment...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-is-a-liar-fake-nato-evidence-osce-confirms-that-no-russian-troops-no-tanks-have-crossed-the-russia-ukraine-border/5399457
NATO needed a boogeyman to justify its existence. They created one with the Ukraine situation.
This is from a Brookings Institute report from July 2012:
"There have long been debates about the sustainability of the transatlantic alliance and accusations amongst allies of unequal contributions to burden-sharing. But since countries on both sides of the Atlantic have begun introducing new – and often major – military spending cuts in response to the economic crisis, concerns about the future of transatlantic defense cooperation have become more pronounced.
A growing number of senior officials are now publicly questioning the future of NATO. In June 2011, in the midst of NATO’s operation in Libya, Robert Gates, then US Defense Secretary, stated that Europe faced the prospect of “collective military irrelevance” and that unless the continent stemmed the deterioration of its armed forces, NATO faced a “dim, if not dismal future”. Ivo Daalder, the US Permanent Representative to NATO, and James Stavridis, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe, have argued that “if defense spending continues to decline, NATO may not be able to replicate its success in Libya in another decade”.
The NATO Alliance's Secretary General Anders Rasmussen, has warned that “if European defense spending cuts continue, Europe’s ability to be a stabilizing force even in its neighborhood will rapidly disappear”.3 While Norwegian Defense Minister Espen Barth Eide has claimed that “exercises have shown that NATO’s ability to conduct conventional military operations has markedly declined. [...] Not only is NATO’s ability to defend its member states questionable, it might actually deteriorate further as financial pressures in Europe and the US force cuts in military spending”.
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2012/7/military%2...
"Through Russia comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what sometimes is called Communism or Bolshevism. No! The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized. Yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world! "
interbank claims. Hilarious to put that on the chart.
"Russian invasion of Georgia"..... need'nt read further
JP Morgan is just regurgitating USSA propaganda.
More like:
Where Is The United States On The Road To Recreating USSR 2.0?There...fixed it for ya.
And I'd say very far along that road to hell and very near it's final destination, unfortunately. Totally FUBAR.
Quoting the JP Morgue:
While the Russian Federation may be plotting an increasingly divergent course from the West, the economic and political independence achieved by most Soviet Bloc countries in the early 1990’s does not appear at risk of being meaningfully reversed or morphing into USSR 2.0.
In other words, the tax slaves are ours to exploit.
It may be debatable where they "are on the road", but the "tell" is going to be if its a road made of "yellow BRICs"!
Regards,
Cooter
Years ago, a very astute ZH commenter wrote the USSR never died, it moved to North America.
Spot on, ZH poster.
They said they were going to do it.....and damn if they didn't get it done.
Georgia invaded Russia. I'd expect the Tylers to know this.
Another insightful question form the No Shit Du-Fucking-H Brigade
I think the Nazis beat them by several decades.
The USSR only ended 23 years ago. It's like we are living in a russian reversal joke.
What I found absolutely stunning was the reference to Libya as a success.
well, they got the gold and set up a IMF central bank didn't they?
and an embassy, where happy tourists can go and get their papers stamped, and buy travelers cheques!
... wait, what?
F Morgue Chase aka Chase being Chase Manhattan Rockefeller. How much misery and war have these evil bastards brought to people around the world including f***ing over americans with Linda Green, Blythe Masters and Jamie with his phony cancer claim. Oh and what is up with JP Morgue's conveyor belt for gold with the NY Fed in NYC and now the Chinese owning the building? How many wars did they finance with the Red Sheild.
JP Morgan is speaking on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex. The MIC needs to ensure that public funds are used for useless military expenditures, rather than fixing roads, bridges, water ways, lowering taxes etc.
Indeed. This is just part of Cold War 2.0, to front-run the demise of the USD as the GRC, and to prevent the US from being locked out of a Eurasian Silk Road 2.0
Who was it who said that if you repeat an outrageous lie often enough, the masses will believe it? After all... "They would never do something like that" (the Normalcy Bias) is what 90% of people would think.
Exactly. This was touched upon in the thread about Argentina yesterday.
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I tuned in to Public Radio while driving yesterday and their foreign feature began with something like "While regular Russian forces are rampaging through eastern Ukraine..."
'Our' corporate sponsored MSM in action.
This is "Iraqi WMDs" all over again: accusations as evidence.
Lyin', war-mongerin' NATO fucks.
Open letter from former intelligence professionals: http://themindrenewed.com/episodes/541-ab007
That is why NPR is better known as National Pentagon Radio. It is also far more accurate.
Except now it's called Public Radio International, I think, but yes.
I turned off Public Radio about five years ago. More propaganda than I could tolerate. Always best to change your name if you have a criminal past. Or future.
Yes. Same.
I listen for the soothing music, in between bouts of hammering on my steering wheel due to the doucheknuckle 'reporting'....
NPR = Nancy Pelosi Radio
That's what even the Progressives out here call it amongst themselves.
NPR is loaded with dual citizen liberal scum. I stopped listening to that crap 20+ years ago.
You only stopped 5 years ago? NPR is the radio version of CNBC. They have about the same number and type of people tuning in. I couldn't stand it, I'd rather be waterboarded. NPR also has that sickening valium induced, slow motion liberal professor talk that destroys brain cells. Of course it's all propaganda and they are funded by the system, there is no way they could ever compete otherwise.
I stopped listening to National Propaganda Radio for national or world news some time ago. Ditto for Arts and Culture.
But I still listen to select programs on Science, Technology or Health topics. You just have to pick & choose what's useful and what's not.
The Moth and Mountain Stage are actually pretty good programs.
I listen to Click and Clack.
The Prarie Home Compainion is Fantastic
The only place where everyone is above average (Exceptional)
Huh? Are you joking? That's got to be one of craziest posts on ZH I have read!
Oshitstain started coldwar 2.0 with his "reset" button- we are now the central planning corrupt state.
In 1.0 most Americans believed in country in 2.0 we know we are the one with the overreaching rabble rousing government. Everything our fascist government touches turns (by plan) to shit.
I would never call Global Research's news website as being "fair and balanced?" It's anti-U.S/West/NATO bias is obvious and they know their audience.
Fantastik!!!! Where do you come up with this stuff? LOL.....
Had to log on to up vote this simple yet eloquent counterpoint to JP Morgan bullshit, either these JPM guys are halfwits or they are pimps.
The closest entity to the USSR in the world today is the USA-and this one was assembled far more craftily than anything Stalin or his predecessors could have conceived of
The damn bankers need a war to paper ove rthe consequences of their greed
"Nato is moving east, dildo."
Why are all you Russians scared of NATO moving east? The historical fear of Russia being surrounded by its enemies from the West, I guess? :-) The UK, French, and German armed forces have faced major force reductions since the cold war ended! Recent budget cuts has degraded combat readiness even more. The Germans sold off/retired most of their 2,000+ cold war era Leopard I/II MBT tank force leaving them with 500. The former Warsaw Pact allies do not offer much in combat and deployable military assets. NATO has 4 fighter planes patrolling the airspace in the Balitics. Estonia, Lithuania, and Lativa have very small armed forces and would last maybe 48 hours in any Russian invasion. NATO is a just a paper tiger backed by the U.S. nuclear umbrella!
Both NATO and the Russians need a bogey man to survive!
I'm not advocating any form of Vigilante Violence; but I'm surprised that our USA Bankers who kicked off the Sub-Prime/CDO Scam (and for some, underwrote/traded both sides w/o full disclosure and changing risk environment) haven't been taken out by:
1) Law Enforcement - I understand NYC and NYState's AGs are hard at it; but this is a Multinational Fiasco. Outside of Finland, we should have been informed about Warrants issued the World over and arrests made at Regional Offices (of the Issuers) and the likes of Mr. Dimon arrested at Airports abroad. Also, by
2) Disgruntled Clients (great and small, collectives and individuals) who were ripped off by their tricks.
Why are they quiet/silenced? We've read about the "suicided" bankers; but that appears to be spun as another scam excercise in "Insurance Collection".
Looks like the much discussed/advocated "Reset" could get pretty messy.
I doubt the Kosher Apaches will be able to contain their genetic impulse to control the strings so war it is.
These fucking Russians always trying to grab the spotlight right as I'm trying to supply the rulers with weapons to fight those filthy Gazians!
Can't an Indian make some money in the weapons fucking trade! Damit! Contract put on ice again!
The idiot speaks as if the West is a bastion of freedom. The US is a fascist, police state spying on everyone including its own citizens. Obama has appropriated the right to drone everyone including US citizens without trial. 250 million Americans have been arrested in the last 20 years. And if any JP Morgan employee were to even hint that they suspected that 9/11 was an inside job, they would be fired immediately.
Why are the criminal assholes from JP Morgan posting on Zero Hedge now? Perhaps, to confirm that they are world-class assholes. And for much needed hilarity to start the weekend.
The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”
The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html
i stated the other day that i thought the original zerohedge tylers are long gone. we get less and less financial news/commentary and more and more political news. this is a prime example of the sort of crap you can get any day over at fox news. started to notice this trend during the last election cycle. more and more trolls showed up with the deeply thought out one line zingers about politics of the red state persuasion. used to be you could have some really good conversations with readers about things financial. now just a bunch of nonsense anti this, anti that, end of the world crap, masquarading as some sort of deep thought.
I agree about your comment on the quality of the comments.
But I disagree about the financial news part. There is simply nothing new happening in the financial world. No one is in jail, faillure of any bank/compagny is not allowed, banks still prefer to destroy homes insteed of seeing their price goes down, stock never goes down ever, etc etc. EI am actualy surprised they find so many financial stories to share. Also, don't forget that the political news are deeply related to the end of the petro dollar.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I +1'd JustObserving's post because I appreciated its content, and his presence on this board. I'm not sure what it was about the article that spawned your comments about your dislike of ZH and will just add that since you have found it so unappealling for so long, I'm not sure what you are doing here?
I don't mean that as a put down at all. If I found a board so distasteful for so long I would not be reading it. By the way there are conversations on this board, perhaps you could look for one that you could jump into.
I am afraid that with the mad max fiat print (QE) by the CBs and the extremely rigged stawk "market", up, up and up to the all-time-high breaking record one after another, there is really not so many significant financial news to cover.
Besides how can one avoid the discussion about the de-dollarization (Petrorubel, Petrogold) thus the drop of the GRC status? and all the related political moves with regard to the change of era and/or change of guard(s)?
there's really not a whole lot of legitimate business left-the velocity of money is down almost 75% the last seven years
http://www.infowars.com/the-velocity-of-money-in-the-u-s-falls-to-an-all...
the reasons are mostly political-and hence the trend of the discussions.
when america re-opens for business the discussions will get more productive-but I wouldn't stand around waiting for that to occur any time soon.
Politics is a struggle for control of governments; what could be more important?
Zero Hedge has absolutely no resemblance to Fox News. The politics here is related to the economic leadership of countries - except for the lightheated nonsense ZH puts on occasionally.
We are struggling for the control of this world and the struggle is now joined between the European section and the Asian section and ZH hit right down the middle with this article.
ZH stories, in general, are provocative. But Fox doesn’t do that; Fox is an opinion source. It is war-making central. And if it does have someone who disagrees, he’s shouted down. Fox doesn’t allow decent investigation of issues.
The road to nations’ economies lies straight through the financial markets of Wall Street and the halls of Congress. Not to report on politics is not to know the financial landscape – imperative to any investor, large or small.
The Fed is politics personified.
I see more and more references every day to Zero Hedge; ZH influence is growing. Zero Hedge is Number One in keeping American investors informed - politically and financially.
"Fox doesn’t allow decent investigation of issues".
They went to court to protect their right of having to publish the truth. Nothing more needs to be said about Fox.
Well, we've covered the market already. It's dead. Central banks own STAWKS now, so...they can just buy everything to "prop up" the "economy".
There's nothing to talk about in finances anymore, it's all a shell game.
At least with this political stuff, there's something happening every day...
Great post.
And if any JP Morgan employee were to even hint that they suspected that 9/11 was an inside job, they would be fired immediately.
Nail gun
Yeah, this is such a free country, American citizens abroad "are reporting banking lock-out. Many foreign financial institutions have simply chosen to eliminate their US citizens and US person client basis in order to minimize their exposure to FATCA reporting requirements, withholding fees and potential penalties."
http://americansabroad.org/issues/fatca/
>>>Obama has appropriated the right to drone everyone including US citizens without trial.
It's not illegal when the President does it.
Nixon was decades ahead of his time... a prophet. And now we have arrrived at the Promised Land.
And with hard work and enthusiasm, we can help the Republicans take back DC!
So russia is isolated, alone, with all that arable land, minerals and oil.
With assets like that, who needs the west?
Hey genius, The west has film and dance.
Bangalore, did you just mean the hollywood's whores and prons?
Part of the vast expanse of The Tribe's Empire
Listen! Your anti Semitic undertones will not be tolerated.
If you seek discourse with me you will be civil, tolerant, and well balanced.
.
But he never even mentioned the Syrians, the Lebanese, or the Palestinians. Did I miss something encoded in the whitespace between the words?
Hey dipshit (Bangalore),
One's discourse is not required to be "well-balanced", whatever the fuck that means, in responding to you.
Listen filo doughboy.
Here are my rules.
1) If you seek discourse with me you will be civil, tolerant, and well balanced.
2)See Rule 1.
By 'well balanced' I mean "WWGBS" What Would Glenn Beck Say? Meaning if Glenn Beck was to critique the comment would he think it was a good comment, well written with serious content that provokes polite responses...
If not get the fuck back to your menial American job and fuck the fucking fuck off!
Even I think you're a bag of dicks, and that's saying something.
I usually post for teh lulz, but I never engage in such blatant flame and hate-bait.
Shame on you. Now go to the corner and think about what you've done.
EDIT:
This is fight club. The only rule is that there are no rules.
And printers
The west has film and dance.
Dancing with the Nataraj!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K__I8pcqjyM&feature=related
Hey Rootin' for Putin...
I would say that Russia and China are INSULATED instead of isolated from the West, which is why they will they survive, with all that land, minerals and oil etc.
They will also throw out all sorts of Western spying equipment i.e. Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Dell, Skype, What's App, Facebook, Google, Oracle, Intel, Mastercard, Visa, Citi, JP Morgan, Goldman Sucks etc. and will then make the insulation complete.
They aren't yet, but they appear to be working in that direction.
A better question would be: "Are the U.S. and Europe re-creating the Fascist States of the 20th Century under the guise of Democracy?"
Is this even a question?
Agreed Eb and as the fascist tactics are employed it appears the Boogeyman will be either the Islamists or the Russians OR the Islamists backed by Russia. Causing division and chaos has been such an effective plan in the Middle East it's time to go world wide baby. As they say, easy to move the herd anywhere, just give them a common enemy and scare them into compliance.
This article is full retard; the communists are now in control of DC, NY, London, and Brussels, and are busy butchering the rest of the world to create Soviet 2.0.
I don't get it. Could you elaborate on that? Can anyone help me understand what this whole communists in America thing is all about? It seems to be a repeating meme...
why worry about capitalistic manuevers when you can forcefuly take something, it's yours then.
Perestroika [openess] was a deceptive tactic that has worked them well, Russia played possum for a while, now they are making their move and taking things back. The way we are responding I would not rule out another large strike on NYC orchestratic again by Russia and carried out by the Jihadists
See what happens to our bottom line then, dollar crumbles
Check under your bed. ISIS terrorists may be hiding there - funded by your friendly CIA. Now be a good American and surrender all your freedoms - except the freedom to be constantly terrorized.
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
CIA said that they "have no idea how to join ISIL", I already asked.
With that in mind I doubt they are involved....
(just a heads up)
Too bad. Death would have immensely improved your postings on Zero Hedge.
Listen! NOW YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE! I call first dibs on "Ghost of Bangalore" username.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Dsty a 12 week member? I just thought NSA stooge meself.
He knows fuck all about recent history though.
Putin has never been anything but rabidly anti-fundamentalist. Hence his support of Assad. Bastard countries need bastard leaders.
The US on the other hand, via the CIA, empowered good old Osamawhatshisname (about as loony as they get) and more recently empowered ISIL in Syria against someone else who isn't grabbed by the whole head-chopping mullarky. ISIS now harming "US interests" in Iraq? This didn't happen by accident. It happened because it always happens. US foreign policy first rule is to fuck up.
That is history. It ain't pretty how the US trashes countries back to the stone age with the old WMD excuse (Iran and nukes) or by proxy (cookies and Hunter Biden) to secure assets (oil/gas) - I suggest US citizens have to live with that shame and disgust from the rest of the world until for e.g. Obumfuck stops popping niggas with his drones, or maybe the CIA is disbanded so it cannot fuck any more countres up (their batting average ain't pretty). Either would be cool. Alternatively a revolution at home would be nice to flush these MIC turds down the crapper.
Interesting also that the US passed a law enforcing the invasion of the Netherlands should any US citizen be tried at the Hague as a war criminal. Hubris does not even come close to the fantasy these cunts are rolling out before our eyes, ably supported by the now irrelevant MSM.
I wanted to do a smart thing and buy some shares, but I am worried that ISIS will take them from me when they come in few weeks.
What would you suggest I do? :(
pathetic attempt, even for you.
" I would not rule out another large strike on NYC..."
Personaly, I would not rule out ANOTHER FALSE FLAG attack on the Big Apple.
Nato is full of shit. They cant win a war. All they do is start shit and destroy whatever they start. Russia need not worry about nato but need worry about starting any war lets think about Afganistan
NATO is a paper Tiger. Let them try to get an army together for the Ukraine. If any Americans go then they are fools. The Poles will probably show up.
Go to Colonel Cassad's web site and look at the pictures:
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/
These poor Ukrainian conscripts do not want to be there and some are fighting and dying. Tanks, BMPs, truck blown to hell. Most of the bodies have been taken away but in one case, some poor bastard may have been blown out of a truck or BMP and is hanging from a power line 30 feet in the air.
These people were bothering no one until the State Dept., Oligarchs, NeoCons, Democrats, Soros and others started to F with them. I hope they go to Kiev to settle the score. These are not people you want to F with.
https://pp.vk.me/c622018/v622018552/f5f/H8yPFyIBu_c.jpg
The only reason why Kiev agreed to a cease fire is they were being routed and the rebels or really patriots could probably go all the way to Kiev. Hopefully the Ukrainian people will wake up but they are TV brainwashed idiots like Americans.
They're about a 100 miles behind the USSA.
complete bs, Russia never attacks anyone first everyone always attacks Russia... Russia didn't invade Georgia, but the Georgian army invade abhazia and south ossetia and killed Russian peacekeeping forces there which prompted russias reply... NATO countries are likely to attack Russia first before Russia attacks NATO! No one wants ussr 2.0 in russia
Marine Le Pen, the leader of France’s far-right National Front party, says the EU is to blame for the crisis in Ukraine as it forced the situation where Kiev had to choose between East and West.
Now that France is joining sanctions against Russia over the alleged direct interference in the political crisis in Ukraine and Paris is considering suspending the €1.2 billion deal of two Mistral helicopter carrier ships ordered by Russia, the leader of the biggest parliamentary faction of the French parliament has her own opinion on Ukraine’s turmoil.
“The crisis in Ukraine is all the European Union’s fault. Its leaders negotiated a trade deal with Ukraine, which essentially blackmailed the country to choose between Europe and Russia,” Le Pen told Le Monde daily in an interview.
Le Pen has been a long-standing critic of Europe’s foreign policy and does not see how Ukraine could join the bloc.
“The European Union's diplomacy is a catastrophe,” Le Pen told RT's Sophie Shevardnadze in an exclusive interview in June.
“The EU speaks out on foreign affairs either to create problems, or to make them worse.”
http://rt.com/news/185616-eu-pen-crisis-ukraine/
And NATO+ is to include Libya, Jordan, Georgia and Moldova.
See a pattern here?
Yeah - those durned Rooskies keep moving their country closer to our military bases; they're sneaky like that.
I can't....CANNOT even respond to this. Who is JPMorgan and their rape of Western Finance via the backs of Plebes to ask such a stupid question? So "recreating the USSR" means trying to stop the advance of NATO and urination of the Warsaw Pact. It'd be like the US saying, "Sure! Come the fuck in and have Mexico. We suggest nuke bases in Nogales and Juarez." This arrogance starts major wars.
Europe is running out of options, ideas and time.
The USA has exhausted herself and badly prioritised its resources into fighting wars rather than recreating itself.
Russia would do well to mind its own business and simply keep enemies from encroaching with missiles.
And everyone would do better by co-operating to minimize waste on armaments, wars, duplication and malinvestment in excess capacity.
Cooperation? Nooooooo ... not in the cards. How would the Owners™ be able to extend, pretend and make money?
@Tyler
'ever thought about a 'negative' Rec possibility for things like this stupid 'MSMBrainwash' article ?
If we want MSM BS , we know where to go.
aleph0, please don't be too rough, each of us surely knows where to look for the regular dope of the standard talking point :-) please read on at below.
Enjoy the ZH special cocktail :-)
aleph0
If any JPM employee wishes to put their nuts on the ZH anvil, who are we to complain?
for an oldtimer on this site, you're acting a bit naive.
pardon my trolling....
TOO BAD the lowest star rating for any ZH article is just one.
I wish the scale be expanded to read from minus 5 to plus 5 (11 grades).
It will give more fun if one can rate stuff like this as simply minus five
instead of just one...one star is still far too good :-) lol
Anyhow, just have some fun with the neo-con's regular weekend trash release,,,, ;-)
he he he among the many possible reasons, i can only imagine that some mixing or insertion at certain dosage like this one will provide ZH a "relatively milder position" for some benefits... ZH won't like to take seat at the extreme end of the corner... it's just understandable :-) sincerely, no hard feeling
Let's imagie the roles were reversed. The US lost the Cold War and peripheral states separated in 1990 and Russia and China were sponsoring anti-American revolutions in those states, and expanding a millitary alliance into Central America and Mexico.
Let's imagine America was attacked by puppet regimes, like Russia was attacked by Georgia in 2008. Let's imagine tens of millions of Americans living outside the US, but being called non-citizens and forbidden from speaking their language, like Russians in the Baltics. And every time America dared to stand back on its feet, it was called a belligerent state.
Wouldn't you want to stop that bull* right then and there?
Err...couldn't I let it carry on for just a teensy bit - the idea is sound and a bit of retribution always feels good.
what will 20 thousand tons of billion year depleted urainum nato rabbi dust do in the waters on the earth of libya.
what has happened to libyas billions in sovreign wealth funds.
what happened to the libyan peoples gold.
why was a rothschild central bank set up inside libya while nato was still bombing the shit out of it.
where did all of gadaffis weapons end up.
democracy freedom no
talmudic satanism more like.
THE LAST SPEECH OF MU’UMMAR QADDAFI
In the name of Allah, the …beneficent, the merciful…
For 40 years, or was it longer, I can’t remember, I did all I could to give people houses, hospitals, schools, and when they were hungry, I gave them food. I even made Benghazi into farmland from the desert, I stood up to attacks from that cowboy Ronald Reagan, when he killed my adopted orphaned daughter, he was trying to kill me, instead he killed that poor innocent child. Then I helped my brothers and sisters from Africa with money for the African Union.
I did all I could to help people Understand the concept of real democracy, where people’s committees ran our country. But that was never enough, as some told me, even people who had 10 room homes, new suits and furniture, were never satisfied, as selfish as they were they wanted more. They told Americans and other visitors, that they needed “democracy” and “freedom” never realizing it was a cut throat system, where the biggest dog eats the rest, but they were enchanted with those words, never realizing that in America, there was no free medicine, no free hospitals, no free housing, no free education and no free food, except when people had to beg or go to long lines to get soup.
No, no matter what I did, it was never enough for some, but for others, they knew I was the son of Gamal Abdel Nasser, the only true Arab and Muslim leader we’ve had since Salah-al-Deen, when he claimed the Suez Canal for his people, as I claimed Libya, for my people, it was his footsteps I tried to follow, to keep my people free from colonial domination – from thieves who would steal from us.
Now, I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our country, to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free education, our free food, and replace it with American style thievery, called “capitalism” ,but all of us in the Third World know what that means, it means corporations run the countries, run the world, and the people suffer.
So, there is no alternative for me, I must make my stand, and if Allah
wishes, I shall die by following His path, the path that has made our
country rich with farmland, with food and health, and even allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters.
I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save this land, my people, all the thousands who are all my children, then so be it.
Let this testament be my voice to the world, that I stood up to crusader attacks of NATO, stood up to cruelty, stoop up to betrayal, stood up to the West and its colonialist ambitions, and that I stood with my African brothers, my true Arab and Muslim brothers, as a beacon of light.
When others were building castles, I lived in a modest house, and in a tent. I never forgot my youth in Sirte, I did not spend our national treasury foolishly, and like Salah-al-Deen, our great Muslim leader, who rescued Jerusalem for Islam, I took little for myself…
In the West, some have called me “mad”, “crazy”, but they know the truth yet continue to lie, they know that our land is independent and free, not in the colonial grip, that my vision, my path, is, and has been clear and for my people and that I will fight to my last breath to keep us free, may Allah almighty help us to remain faithful and free.
Mu’ummar Qaddafi
+5
True humanity never works in this fucking world driven by insatiable avarice. Lesson learned. And that was why Edvard Munch screamed in his most famous painting more than 120 years ago because he knew the world would end up like shit. /p>
Libya,,, Yet another bell ringing example of American exceptionalism. Next up: Ukraine.
+1. Your best post ever. Keep it up.
Just for good measure ...
Libya was doing fine .... until NATO destroyed it.
On the very day that the NATO bombing started, a "new" Western CB was installed.
IIRC, the old Libya CB had NO DEBT and 110 tons of Gold.
One year later , the "new" Libyian CB declared they had no more money left .. and the Gold was GONE.
http://libyasos.blogspot.de/p/gaddafi.html
THANK YOU, Tony.
And this one post is why I type like a maniac.
We, us, the West, and those that rule us, we are in the wrong.
Its time for settling scores my friends.
Cheers Tony.
Well, the "Blue" countries can always exit EU/NATO and join voluntarily the best performing block.
As an American, I am so ashamed of what has become of my country.
quit whining
I still don't understand - what was wrong with USSR
There were a lot of complaints in the USA actually when the USSR collapsed. "There was greater stability" I think was the catchphrase.
Facts are the facts though...the USSR dissolved then The Communist Party was violently overthrown by the Mayor of Moscow Boris Yeltsin.
That wasn't just the end of the USSR. Plus there was a catastrophic foray into the Caucuses back in the 90's.
It is what it is. "And all I got was the comment section."
About a year ago an article here postulated that US under Reagan conspired to lower commidity prices, squeezeing the mercantilist USSR into bankrupcy.
Bin Laden bankrupted both the ussa and ussr.
They were both well on their way to bankrupting each other with military spending when bin Laden fucked the ussr over in Afghanistan and they went bankrupt.
The ussa didn't learn the lesson and allowed bin Laden to trick them into going bankrupt in Afghanistan. The ussa just doesn't know it yet because of TPTB use smoke and mirrors to obscure the truth.
Afghanistan, destroyer of empires.
Look Bin Laden has always been a US stooge. Yes he fucked the USSR (with big help from the US), but no he didnt trick anyone to go in Afghanistan since he was working for the US.
Remember after 911 when all the planes were grounded? Well all but one! The Bin Laden family airplane was the only one to be allowed to leave the country.
What matters is the ussa & ussr were/are bankrupt.
What I find interesting is these so called empires, great and mighty countries, were foolish enough to be tricked into bankruptcy.
Oh ya
And Canada sold all it's gold to help facilitate dropping the price of oil to ten bucks to screw USSR into bankruptcy.
Canada is the hyphen in anglo-american.
Since Putin has already stripped the industrially and resource important region of Donbass if not effectively then at least by turning it into a war zone, the only thing kiev has left is exporting fascist sluts as brides to American morons.
Everything he does has a reason that is about exporting gas/oil, the battle over Ossetia was about a transit corridor for oil gas pipelines to the East.
If there is nothing to be gained in the way of resources or transit then its just him fucking with his enemies.
Frankly I felt that he had abandoned the Russians in Donbass to the fascist scum this summer, perhaps he was being too timid and finally decided the cries for help were too much. I'd like to think the Three Angels came to him and said "you have the power at this point in history to save our children" and he thought, I will let soldiers go on vacation to Donbass and take some equipment with them.
you can't make this shit up.
he just did.
i'm actually sorry you believe that.
The biggest enemy of the West and freedom is our financial system including JP, the FED etc.
One day I woke up and looked into the mirror and saw the enemy. It was me.
The USA has already created the USSR 2.0 throughout the west, and has updated its version number many times over by increasing its underhanded fascist oppression of the citizens and denial of liberties and property rights.
Wherever Russia is on the scale, they are miles behind DC when it comes to fucking up liberty.
Sooner or later SCO will tell Washington to suck its cock.
Answer:
It's all in Stan Fischer, Jamie Dimon's and Lloyd Blankfein's "head"!
Give us all your fucking oil and natural gas to be traded in USD or we'll threaten you with "nothing we can make good on"...
We'll just keep deluding ourselves that we can do to you what we did to Iraq and Libya and that the very sophisticated nuclear arsenal that you possess doesn't really exist, or is inferior to anything we have while we press "more of your buttons" because of the poor choices for dominance and control that we keep making...
Yeah. This will end well!!!
If you read the wikipedia history of Belarus, you will see a long history of integration with Europe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Belarus
If I were a betting man, I would bet Belarus is the next target on Putin's list of Re-Russification of Soviet vassal states.
I expect Belarus to be part of the EU within 10 years. The fallout of the crisis in Ukraine should be interesting to watch. I assume many German businesses are already operating in Belarus. Don't be surprised if an economic relationship is formalized between Belarus and the EU in response to something stupid done by Putin.
In a nutshell... investment opportunities.
You're aware that Belarus means "White Russia"? It could hardly be "Re-Russified"...
you've done poetic justic to your name.
The Good Old Days are always better in far hindsight .
Even the ex-slaves longed for the remembered Roman Empire after its fall .
This is frequently noticed in present countries just escaped from oppressive regimes .
The failures of the present regimes are compared to the successes of the previous tyrannies , but rever the other way around .
A longing for the return of the Good Old Days have frequently in the past led to attempts to do a Frankenstein (eg Holy Roman Empire , Arthurian legends , Napoleon III , Maximilian of Mexico , etc)
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-good-old-days.html
Hint to Putin: Ukraine is small little problem that ebola can solve. Low probability of suspicion. Go!
America's Suez Moment?
It seems that the American imperium suffered a great defeat over the recent ceasefire agreement in Ukraine.
Much like the British learned that lesson in 1956 over the Suez War
Hey Listen. Let them sign what ever makes the opinions sway. Warm and fuzzy is great. But in the cover of night sneak the death squads in and expand the empire.
I didn't know the Blackwater guys had packed up and shipped out?
"Where Is Russia On The Road To Recreating USSR 2.0?"
I don't believe Russia has (or had) any desire to recreate USSR 2.0.
However, actions taken by the West since USSR 1.0 collapsed - at an increasing rate and including surrounding Russia with NATO on its southern/western borders, orchestrating the Ukraine civil war, installation of a Western puppet fascist govt and falsely blaming Russia for MH17 - should make it very clear to anybody paying attention that it is in fact the West that wants to recreate USSR 2.0, at the very least.
Given the obscene language coming from Obama's orifice and the empty suit Cameron in recent months and at this week's NATO war council meeting it's hard to see how Russia will not focus its attention away from the West and towards its other option: Euroasia & BRIICS. That's where the gold is and it's where the economic action will be in the coming decades.
This is the kind of trash fed to JPM's Muppets.
From the "usual suspects" that wrote this "piece"...
Mark your calendars!
JPM wrote that? Looks more like Drudge...
JPM wrote that? Looks more like Drudge...
Does it even matter at this point who wrote it???
They do it with such relentless impunity anyway they might as well just come out as they already have countless times before in the past 13 years that this is coming your way like it or not and we really don't care anymore if you know it's us who's doing it! Go ahead and try and stop us!!!
By the way? If the commission was good enough, I'm sure Drudge would take it from JPM regardless just like Alex Jones. After all it's the American way -isn't it?
It doesn't matter to me. You're the one who said the same "usual suspects" wrote both.
Putin’s goal appears to be business. And the West seeks the protection racket with Vinnie the Kneecapper (NATO) adding another puppet nation to exploit.
JP Morgan gets its money because America’s banker-controlled government, partnered with the Fed, gives them other people’s money via printing, taxes and war. It is a process, structured under the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which involves force and legal privilege. It is a process that destroyed America’s market process—free, peaceful exchange—and, thus, economic justice worldwide.
And now JP et al., want Ukraine as it and the other owners of the Fed suck the lifeblood out of the world – its resources - to advance their interests of influence, i.e., to finalize their global grab for empire.
And Vladimir Putin got in the way.
Dean Henderson confirms the hypocrisy of 21st Century America as a “republic” in The Federal Reserve Cartel: The Eight Families.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080
Writes Henderson, author of Big Oil & Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network and The Grateful Unrich: Revolution in 50 Countries:
“The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.
“According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.” -- 10K Filings of Fortune 500 Corporations to SEC. 3-91
Dean Henderson's "Big Oil & Their Bankers In The Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network"
is a book worth to buy... get it at the author's site: http://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/bookstore/Dean Henderson writes:
When the NSA attacked Left Hook on June 29th, it had 1,394,713 visitors….
· ...Since then we've had
http://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/
Horseshit cubed. Why is ZH even giving this lame propaganda the time of day?
Horseshit cubed. Why is ZH even giving this lame propaganda the time of day?
Because when the TBTFs are allowed to continue without being disbanded and their reps offered protection by the justice department with no jail time, or worse at the obvious expense of the public, bad consequences tend to prevail.
Why people haven't demanded the "heads" at top of the org chart since the bank bailouts 6 years ago and allowed these kinds of scurrilous lies to continue along with The "Dick" Cheney's that are always available for news and radio to alert us of more "9/11's" coming our way should be raising "eyebrows" as well as questions as to why we're allowing them to even speak knowing full well they are the worst criminals on the face of the planet!
He who controls the narrative controls the debate.