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Europe Goes "All In": Will Sanction Rosneft, Gazprom Neft And Transneft

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Until this moment, the main reason why everyone mostly dismissed Europe's sanctions against Russia is that despite all its pompous rhetoric, Europe consistently refused to hit Russia where it would hurt: its energy titans Gazprom, Rosneft And Transfneft. The reason is simple: by imposing sanctions on these core energy exporters, Europe would directly threaten the stability of its own energy imports (Russia accounts for up to 30% of German gas imports), and as winter approaches with every passing day, playing with the energy status quo would seem like economic suicide. This all appears to have changed last Friday, when as the FT reports from a leaked copy, Europe's latest sanctions round will boldly go where Europe has never dared to go before, and impose sanctions on the big three: Rosneft, Gazprom Neft and Transneft.

 

This is what is known in game theory terms as a major defection round.

It also means that suddenly the stakes for Russia, and thus Europe, just got all too real, as Putin will now have no choice but to really ramp up the retaliatory escalation, which following the food ban can only mean one thing: a staggered reduction in gas flow to Europe.

 

It also means something else: recall that it was just ten days ago when we reported that Gazprom would begins accepting payment for oil in Ruble and Yuan.

If today's news is confirmed, Europe's dramatic shift in sanctions strategy means that Europe's embargo of both the US Dollar and the Euro will accelerate as Russia further intensifies its shift away from both the west and the petrodollar. The only and clear winner here: China, which will almost certainly step in to provide the funding Russia needs however on Beijing's terms in effect making the symbiotic link between Russia and China even stronger, forcing Moscow to rely almost exclusively on China for trade and funding relations, and suddenly give Xi Jinping all the trump cards.

What China's president will do, now that he has all the leverage in the world to call shots both to the West, the East, and of course, Africa, remains unknown, although those thousands of tons of gold imports that mysteriously enter the country and are never heard from again, may provide a hint.

 

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Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:10 | 5191236 Rip van Wrinkle
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"Afghanistan is a mess.  Libya is a mess."

 

What the hell do you think the objective was? Democracy? You'll believe anything.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:20 | 5191262 Kobe Beef
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Sassoon, Jardine et al used the mess they made of Imperial China to move a lot of opium.

Just sayin'.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:10 | 5191073 Jack Burton
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CH1, NATO is indeed insane! But the insanity is imported from Washington DC, as I post here often, the EU and NATO leaders are fully Coopted by Washington. EU leaders act against the interests of the EU peoples and EU economy, they choose instead to follow Washington's dictates and torpedo their own economic futures. Because Washington OWNS the leaders in Europe. Through bribery, threats and black mail, Washington controls the majority of politicians in the EU. Screwing their energy supplies for the sake of Zionest Neo-Cons in Washington, at a time when all the EU is slipping into recession again, and involved in mass money printing with hundreds of bankrupt banks, HOW can the EU afford to fuck with their own reasonably priced gas supplies from Russia?

This act, marks proof positive that EU leaders serve Washington DC's war mad neoconservative zionest war mongers. The EU economy can not replace this energy at the same low prices and with the same reliable ease of supply. Even at the height of the cold war, the USSR ALWAYS full filled it's gas contracts with Europe, never once breaking a contract. Now the EU breaks all contracts, and will see worse economic results!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 22:16 | 5192423 conscious being
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Jack, CH1 being a zionist, makes him impervious to any argument that does not reflect favorably on zionist zionists.

He recently posted that those who associate Israel w/ 9/11 do so out of some mental obsession. I am waiting for him to explain this

What really happened? The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:02 | 5191270 TheGardener
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"NATO has gone insane."

Show the world you are really crazy. Works for Israel for the time being.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:32 | 5191802 Dugald
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NATO has gone insane.

What do you mean, Gone?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 19:22 | 5191950 teslaberry
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when you think about the marginal theory of dialectics and reflexvitiy , it stands to reason NATO will not, or for internal dynamics, CANNOT, de-escalate and is thus stuck pushing for war until 1) they get a popular revolution in europe to break up the EU as a protest against NATO or 2) they get a big war, coming primarily at the expense of the sheeples unless there is a full scale nuclear war , in which case, it's hard to say if that's what they want...ahhahah . 

 

who could overthrow nato? the uk public? the EU public? at a certain point, you realize the overthrow of local governments would essentially become the transition of NATO from an outward force to a giant transeuroprean transamerica military. \

 

but i have to disagree with you. nato has not gone 'insane'. sorry for the down vote. but i do agree with the bottom statement. i don't see why you have to have gone 'insane' to be despierate for war though. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:17 | 5191592 Lumberjack
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And like Rommel, the US and France are moving on Africa (MENA) region for oil and other resources. Ended up badly for the Afrika corps and most likely Europe has made a really bad mistake.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 01:29 | 5192704 Freddie
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Uh oh.  Lookies like the Ukies are finally getting smart and may all be heading to Kiev to get the z-oligarch scum including Porky, Yats, Klitchko, Yulia and the olther Z scum in Kiev.

Go get em boys.  Hang em high. Western Ukraine aka NovoRussia is not your enemy.  Kiev is.  Go get the oligarchs and give them exactly what they gave you in sending your friends to their deaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEItEEjN3cg

ZATO should be worried.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:33 | 5190536 Joenobody12
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As usual, the Jews in the US governement and European government make the decision, and the people of the whole world suffer.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:52 | 5190618 hairInTheSoup
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the zionists

 

don't give the stick to the psychopath to use antisemitism rethoric

 

(many jews are anti-zionists)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:12 | 5190711 Joenobody12
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Sorry , you are right. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:43 | 5191007 FeralSerf
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The Jews that are anti-Zionist (aka the "self-haters") need their own "Anti Defamation League". They are woefully underrepresented in the MSM.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:34 | 5191306 Kirk2NCC1701
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They are politely ignored and marginalized by their Media and the MSM, lest they have 'cause' to make a big stink and thus get attention.  Devious.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:13 | 5191427 FeralSerf
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That they are. The average Jew is just a tool of their own elites. They are more brain-washed than even the Goyim.

"God's Chosen People" is a great one-line brain-washer. Just keep saying it, over and over, and soon they believe it.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:46 | 5191502 TheGardener
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Feral, all the lesser Jews are considered feral .

Know what they call us German Jews ?

Jecke. Which was a derogatory Eastern Jews term for that foolish German Jew, uncanny in business and as easily fooled like the common German fool.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 00:40 | 5192641 COSMOS
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He didnt say ALL jews.  He said the jews in the US Govt.  He has nothing to apologize for.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:49 | 5191478 TheGardener
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If you think you have it rough, friend Kirk, try to conform to a judische Gemeinde. Devious are the jokes they make about themselves, you aint seen nothing yet.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:13 | 5191089 Jack Burton
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Zionism is not just Jewish either. American and Europe have a large group of Christian zionists, who in many cases are worse evil zionest war mongers than the average American or EU jew. Together, Israel and the USA have a vast zionest army of politicians and media that somehow seem to hold total information and political control. I offer up American CNN cable TV as the perfect example and mouth piece of zionism, and the covert zionest outlet, hiding behind the Americna flag, is FOX. The ultimate zionest agent in America!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:33 | 5191134 Christophe2
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definition 'zionest': most Zionist.

N.B.: I despise the zionests the most too!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:44 | 5191164 Circle of DNA
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Most Zionestiests , sounds just as good

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:16 | 5191433 Plato's Law
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Thank you Jack for mentioning the Zionist branch of Christianity http://whtt.org/  The one hour video on the right is the best hour you could spend to learn about its roots.  It's interesting to note the involvement of the Judaic-run Oxford Press, and also the involvement of The Scofield Reference Bible.

It all hinges on one Bible vs. in which God says to Abraham, "I will bless those who bless thee, and I will curse those who curse thee."  One God-forsaken SBC church I know of prints this on their bulletin every week.  They mean if you fuck with Israel God will kill you, even if you are a Christian. 

The founder of "We Hold These Truths" says, and I believe it's true, that USA endless wars are only possible  because of the existence and support of Zionist Christianity. 

Probably the staunchest branch of Zionist Christians is the Southern Baptist Conference.  About 35 years ago the leader of the SBC said to his Christian brothers living in Palestine, that they must get out to make room for God's Holy People the Judaics.  To his Cristian brothers he gave the common SBC refrain usually reserved for common sinners: "It's God's way or the highway!"

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 19:05 | 5191883 Lea
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It's extraordinary to see how obsessed with Zionists you Americans are. And now, to top it all, Zionist Christians! The whole of the media, taken up by "raving mad Zionists neocons" without whom "America would not have waged its endless wars"!

Sorry, but you have it backwards. Israel is a Washington DC suburb. It's a tiny country surrounded by longtime enemies, some of whom pray everyday to see it erased from the map - just read the Koran for details on Muhammad's views on Jews. That made them jumpy, so they looked for the protection of 'big brother" America, who granted it... against fierce loyalty. America never gives anything for free. America has no friends, no allies, just serfs.

All your "Zionist neocons" are following Washington's war lobby agenda to the letter, and very often against Israel's or the Jewish people's interests. And most of the neocons are not Jews, but plain WASP breed. AND there are some books missing on you bookshelves, where you would see America started its endless wars long before Israel even existed.

Some of the most important ones are missing from that list, but to give you an idea.

http://openyoureyesnews.com/feature-articles/u-s-military-interventions-...

And as for the ones who think "Israel is behind it all because the Jews think they are God's chosen", I'd advise them to read a little American pamphlet from 1846 called "Manifest Destiny". Pure WASP. It was all the rage back then, and judging by the rants on "American exceptionalism", it still is.

And I'm not even either a Jew or a Zionist.

 

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 20:58 | 5192245 Kirk2NCC1701
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I talked about this in 2 posts I made yesterday (5189227 and 5189260), where I introduced a very old Movement that has not been mentioned in the MSM for a very, very long time, nor on ZH (as far as I can tell):  MANIFEST DESTINY.

Please read it, as you may be surprised.  IMO it ties together the common interests of Elite WASPs and Elite Zionists into one rational whole of mutual interest.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:02 | 5190657 TheReplacement
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You really believe those governments are calling the shots still?

They are puppets.  If there is a revolution and the puppets get hung so what?  The masters will just buy the next round and start over.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:18 | 5191101 Kirk2NCC1701
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@Joenobody12: "As usual, the Jews in the US government and European government make the decision, and the people of the whole world suffer."

I don't disagree, but... if 2% control the rest, then WTF does that say about the 98%?  Not much!  The 98% been bred to become fucking Sheep - in every sense of the word:  They get Milked, Shagged, Sheared, Fleeced and Butchered.  Until People stop being Sheeple, nothing will change.

p.s. You got your Clerical/Church Elite to thank for being part of the problem.  It was them who bastardized Christianity in the 4th Century, when at the Emperor Constantine's sponsored Summit, the Council "standardized" what was "In" and what was "Out.  To no surprise all passages that had the mentality of turning the Masses into Sheep, was kept.  E.g. "Simon, you are now Peter and will guard my... "SHEEP".  "Blessed are the poor, the meek..." -- for they work for the entire system and they take it up the ass.  We don't know what the various flavors of Christianity were before the Council of Nicaea, but we certainly know what it was afterwards:  An Organized Religion for Slaves and the Plebeian Masses.

The Muslims OTH, do not believe in Usury, the Jews invented and run it, and the Jews are not so much followers of Moses as they are followers of the Pagan-infused Babylonian Talmdu, which allows and condones their predatory practices.  Just WTF do you expect when a Sheep meets a Predator?  Peace?  Dumb-ass Sheep!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:11 | 5191239 CheapBastard
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You mean, "The meek shall inherit the Earth," ain't going to happen?!

WTF! I was counting on the contract clause quite a bit.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:22 | 5191271 Rakshas
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..... worry not CB the prophecy is looking more and more likely to be fulfilled .....buuut....... you have to remember cockroaches also fall under the meek banner..... 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 16:16 | 5191432 TheGardener
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Politics, a bold form of lying, banks on the meek like religion - an overused former popular way of controlling masses- and knows no bounds thereof.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 01:20 | 5192693 All Risk No Reward
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No, the meek will inherit the Earth.  But if you believe that then you are kinda stuck believing the other prophecies about holy hell being ravaged before order is restored.

The bizarre thing is that the prophecied Christian genocide appears to be orchestrated by the Debt Money Monopoly that finances and controls those who govern me through their terrorist proxies...

The "Beast" appears to be the United States incarnation of the Roman Empire system and the woman riding it appears to be the Debt Money Monopoly private debt banking cartel.

Almost everyone aligns their thought processes and works to the Beast...  marking their intellect (forehead) and marking their works (hands) with the 666 Nero Empire System - it appears to be an already done deal...  forget about waiting for physical technicalities.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 02:25 | 5192755 Andre
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One for WilliamBanzai - Janet Yellen as the Whore of Babylon.

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 01:35 | 5237107 All Risk No Reward
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Good idea.

A more accurate but less less societal consciousness image...  the elder Rothschild dressed in drag at one of thier "balls" could be portrayed as the Whore of Babylon

Rothschild Ball Exposes Elite’s Fascination with Occult
http://www.infowars.com/rothschild-ball-exposes-elites-fascination-with-...

Then again, perhaps a photo of him dressed up at the ball would suffice.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 05:04 | 5192855 IronForge
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Captain,

Correction on your claims of Xianity's 4thCE Bastardization.  Xianity "started" in the 4thCE.  There is no Gospel Written prior to that.

Mithrai, Zeus, Attis, Dionysus, "Chrestus-GoodPerson Movemen" (yes, they actually wrote the "i" over the "e" on manuscripts; and the scholars are desperate to put Chrestus and Christ together as one group), and other Messianic Myths have been reassembled in the 4th.

The VATICAN IS BUILT ATOP A MYTHRAI TEMPLE SITE.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:46 | 5191339 Plato's Law
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http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-economy/

2% of the population make 65% of the most critical decisions, expressed as 3200% over representation.  Yeah, that's fair.  How much different would be life's landscape if it was only a "mere" 300%?  (As if 300% would be "fair.")

Our neighbor, who would pay Rupert Murdoch  for the privelege of performing anilingus on him, likes to moan how awful is growing anti-Semitism.  If anti-Semitism grows, it grows in the petri dish governed by Judaics and Zionist enablers like Murdoch.

From WW2 to today the Rabbis state that Hitler did God's work in killing Jews for their sin of embracing secularism and turning their backs on the Rabbis.  It is apparently true that Judaics did indeed tire of Rabbinical tyranny in the 20th C, and embraced secularism.  

Did and does the Rabbinical back lash work?  Were the Rabbis able to turn the tide of Judaics who sickened of Rabinical theft and mysogyny?  (Such as the daily Rabbinical prayer: "Thank you Yaweh for not making me a slave, a gentile, nor a woman.")  Check the stats.  The fastest growing types of Judaism are Orthodox and Chabad Lubavitch, the two most caustic and evil branches.    

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:49 | 5191644 Kirk2NCC1701
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Putin 6/13/2014: “I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

Putin was referencing the library of Rabbi Joseph I. Schneerson, the late leader of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement. The books, which are claimed by Chabad representatives in the United States, began being moved to the museum in Moscow this month.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jews

Then there's the "Teflon Rabbi", the recent Chief Rabbi of the UK, Jonathan Sacks, who is a key leader in the Chabad-Lubavitch movement, and at whose Farewell dinner all of UK's Elite (even Anglican and Catholic Elite) were falling over each other in their accolades of the man.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIZTVhJffw

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MunlCt9_Nl0

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:25 | 5191609 reader2010
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In reality Israel has been used as a lap dog and wealth transfer vehicle by the MIC and Wall Street since the early days if WW2. It's also used to keep Arab oil producers in line. In essence, without Israel there won't be PetroDollar. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 22:25 | 5192451 conscious being
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Like a chihuahua with rabies and nuclear fangs.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:01 | 5190654 SDShack
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"As usual, the European elites makes the decisions, and the people suffers."

I've said it for years, "welcome to the New Feudal World Order". This is just another example.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:01 | 5190664 Kirk2NCC1701
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@Publicus: "As usual, the European elites makes the decisions, and the people suffers."

The way to do a Judo/Jiujitsu move, is to "Squeeze them where it hurts": Energy for Rubels and Gold.

p.s. Energy will not be "priced" in USD and then paid in Rubels or Gold, but [drumroll]... PRICED IN GOLD.  That way the MFers can't play Manipulation Games in FX.  Bitchez!

"Gold is Money.  All else is Credit." - JP Morgan

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:54 | 5191368 Dubaibanker
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That is very true, Publicus. Out of the 28 member nations, the list of countries who are AGAINST the sanctions is rising every day.

Spanish Farmers: http://www.thelocal.es/20140905/furious-farmers-hand-out-free-fruit-in-m...

Italian ex-PM, Berlusconi just spoke today : http://en.itar-tass.com/world/748503

“We are strangled by a most profound economic crisis, the situation is only worsening and it the situation is being aggravated by the international situation and the decisions of European leaders, heads of Western countries, the United States and NATO, who were irresponsible and unthinking to make null and void of the enormous work done after the signing of the Pratica di Mare agreement [on the establishment of the Russia-NATO Council - ITAR-TASS) that ended the 50-year-long Cold War,” he said.

Irishhttp://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/agribusiness-and-food/coveney...

Norwayhttp://en.itar-tass.com/economy/748435

Czech: 1. http://www.praguepost.com/economy/41414-trade-minister-sanctions-will-hu...

2. http://praguepost.com/food-and-drink/41406-russian-food-ban-hits-czech-f...

Slovak PM spoke the best: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2014-09/05/c_133621729.htm

"We're damaging mainly ourselves," stressed Fico. If Russia introduces retaliatory measures, Slovakia may lose as many as 6,000-8,000 jobs in the car industry, which is the workhorse of the Slovak economy.

"Did we really want this? In the name of a geopolitical struggle between Russia and USA?" asked Fico rhetorically.

Hungaryhttp://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_04/09/2014_542643

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuaniahttp://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/35476/#.VAyzEUvfAds

If so many countries are objecting to Russian sanctions or are paying an uneven price for placing sanctions on Russia and then bearing the brunt of expected retaliatory sanctions by Russia, how is it that Eurozone is still called a democratic alliance? The public and regular people of Eurozone are paying a price with job losses, slower trade and rising political anger.

Who would have thunk? Reminds me of something to spite the face or something....

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:20 | 5191598 TheGardener
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"But somewhere some total war will bring hope and change.

My niggerly me does not care if my teleprompter is off or on, the gayest American president in history guides astronomically. "

To the moon. (Hitleresque actors not related to real citizens.)

P.S. Hollywood would do well next time around , moon
landing I mean , not president alien present curse.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:41 | 5190580 Thom_333
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We are not that worried.Shortly the Americans will be involved in the next shooting war with Russia.Besides their war with the Arab world and trying to provoke China on the side. THough last showing of USAin Iraq was a bit worrying. Couldn´t even hold down the rag-heads in Bagdad.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:04 | 5190674 TempusFugit
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Russia's next move is to methodically expand and diversify it pipelines and foreign reserves.  Nato's paperback writers will either accept entropy, or reject it.  Issac Newton, anyone?

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:13 | 5190682 Ignatius
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"Russia's next move ...."

Putin needs to break through the West's propaganda wall, perhaps by seeking 30 minutes of unedited network time. 

"Source of trouble is, as historically is, economic..."

"Russia seeks peace and economic cooperation..."

"Reckless accusations are not evidence..."

"Source of trouble is stated US desire for 'full spectrum dominance'..."

"Consequences of failure are dire..."

"Peace and prosperity are possible..."

etc.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:34 | 5190771 digitalindustry
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they are geting though..lol

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:45 | 5191167 Radical Marijuana
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Thanks to the digitalindustry Internet!

I have the bad habit of feeling obliged to glance at the mass media before I check out Zero Hedge. Talk about stumbling through the dark, until a light comes on! It is frightening to imagine what people who only watch the mass media actually believe. The most shocking are the things that the mass media keep totally in the dark, by LYING BY OMISSION.

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 22:43 | 5192485 conscious being
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RM, re. MSM Lying by omission.

The Guardian had an artcle at the end of last week about Putin's 7-point "peace plan", really a ceasefire plan. At the end of the article, the first comment was a question - what is the peace plan? Why won't the guardian publish the simple 7 points?

Maybe because the first point was halt all aerial bombing of civilian areas. A subsequent point was attacking forces will pull back 40kms from Donetsk and Luhansk municipalites to move their artillery out of range to attack civillian areas.

Appentently, the Guardian wants to supress knowledge of Junta war crimes.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:11 | 5191240 Rip van Wrinkle
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All Putin needs to do is get hold of the unedited MH17 tapes. Game over.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:25 | 5191282 WillyGroper
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911 would be even better.

Trouble is that even if he did the sheeple would bleat, Putin CONSPIRACY!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 14:48 | 5191170 holgerdanske
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Fogh Rasmussen is a flat footed idiot.

It is going to be a long cold winter.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:55 | 5191874 mt paul
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standard operating procedure

 

currency wars

trade wars

real wars

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 00:54 | 5192661 IronForge
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If TEAM_RUS DEMANDS GAS/OIL PAYMENT IN GOLD instead of EURs, will it break the sanctions?

Will TEAM_DEU prefer the Nordstream and Silkroad Lifelines over the Eurocrats and TEAM_USA?.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 03:36 | 5192789 USisCorrupt
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"no tough people any longer"

 

Like the pussies in America are tough?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:21 | 5190483 MalteseFalcon
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In a three sided game: Oceania, Eurasia & Eastasia, the side that sits out the war wins. 

So the winner here is Eastasia.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:41 | 5190576 ThroxxOfVron
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"In a three sided game: Oceania, Eurasia & Eastasia, the side that sits out the war wins. 

So the winner here is Eastasia."

Playing the role of banker and munitions factory for both sides could prove very profitable.  Reminds me of something the Untied States did once upon a time when Europe had a little war with itself and accidentally invited Russia while drunk on bloodlust.

Europe would have been in perpetual war for the last 500 years if the Western Hemisphere had not been discoverd.

Instead of colonizing the Americas there probably would have been Eastasian wars over the period and either Asia would be as checkered with latino and anglo nationstates as the Americas are or Europe would be broadly speaking Chinese...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:54 | 5190630 Sandmann
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UK is AIRSTRIP ONE

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:33 | 5190971 BlindMonkey
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Fortunately England is bigger than Guam. There is less risk in capsizing England with the additional forces that will be stationed there.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:46 | 5191664 post turtle saver
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no peace beyond the line

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:03 | 5190666 general ambivalent
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Remember that in a three superpower world game theory suggests one of the powers must sacrifice itself to prevent eternal nuclear war. Watch for the deep state to build up one of the powers as a sacrifice, likely along Biblical lines.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:35 | 5190550 Buck Johnson
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They are doing everything they can to start a war with Russia.  The economy must be about to come apart.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:54 | 5190628 TheReplacement
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Frostbite.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:08 | 5190693 Bossman1967
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the fundamental transformation of the USA to ucsa yes not socialist as most think but a communist dictatorship before the elections which may never happen. oops a new conspiracy theory huh

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:18 | 5190932 Cat Sniper
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Europe goes 'Full Retard', what are the small eastern nations, which rely on Russian oil and gas, going to do? This could shatter the EU.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:27 | 5191287 drendebe10
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Wonder what happens when Ebola attacks Europe, China & Russia

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:44 | 5191334 Volkodav
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Does not survive well in cold, according to some experts.

Russia has not political correct open vulnerablity as west nor the immigrants and travelers from Africa.

better worry about your own country

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 19:31 | 5191976 dbTX
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taking your que from Obama is a bad decision

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 19:35 | 5191997 RaceToTheBottom
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"What do the obamicans get out of this?"

Look, Squirrel!

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 20:10 | 5192074 August
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>>> What do the obamicans get out of this?

You know, I realy like it! Enough of this dead Italian "America" stuff.  Truly, Obamica is the land of the future, for the people of the future.

If the Latin guys will buy in, we can have North Obamica and South Obamica, all populated by Obamicanos!

Obamica! Obamica!  Brotherhood from sea to shining sea!  Dare to make it so.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 20:30 | 5192158 HardlyZero
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Going back a few thousand years...I wonder when a Senator horse gets all the votes.

The borders are out of control.

The virtual armies exists (since real boots and real bullets and Army deployments are a no-no).

http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2014/04/this-is-how-empires-collaps...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 21:25 | 5192321 chwaharps007
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chwa

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 01:12 | 5192683 All Risk No Reward
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Obama is a Debt Money Monopoly House Muppet.  He is a Debt Money Monopoly whose job it is to keep the Muppets in the two party plantation.

That's it - he's just a controlled tool.

The Debt Money Ponzi is due for the bust cycle - all the Debt Money Monopolists need is a correlating event on which to blame the "event" so as to keep the Muppetry mystified.

It looks to me like they are framing Russia.

When the Debt Money Monopoly bankrupts everyone they then will seize more collateral from humanity that has ever been seized in the history of humanity.

If you had any real liberty left, they'd steal that, too.  They will lick their lips as they steal away even your illusion of liberty...  by you and your I'm speaking of everyone outside their little club that we ain't in, as Carlin would say.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:17 | 5190473 skbull44
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As the Starks maintain in Winterfell and is increasingly stated within the Russian government, "Winter is coming."

 

http://olduvai.ca

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:38 | 5190475 falak pema
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So now Qatar runs the energy scene of Europe; along with its football clubs !

Move over Abrahamov.

This has awesome repercussions as it means that the Islamic Caliphate which is financed by Qatar/Saudi by the looks of it, is now more "kosher".

You can't declare Putin "son of Satan" in the West/EU and also declare the Sunni brigade who is its worst enemy--as that of his allies, Syria and Iran---that they ALSO be Sons of Satan.

There is a problem there and Obama is right in the middle of it; aka "managing Caliphate" or "destroying" it. 

The US seems to be hedging its bets in ME, depending on the intensity and speed of the developing face-off with Putin about Ukraine/Gas to EU thingie. This is NWO core chess game; not flea bites from an obscurantist mercenary army on the loose in the rubble of Iraq/Syria-- where US past plays have created mayhem; all the while sanctuarising the Ghawar spring of black gold and its monarchist owners.

Even DEAR HENRY, the creator of Pax Americana world order and Trilateral in the 70s, is now openly saying : Guys, the real enemy to our WORLD ORDER is Iran not Caliphate...Awesome conclusion from the Man who made the system that Reagan and Bushes/Clinton then ramped up to Bubbleonomics fed offshored NWO.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:07 | 5190690 general ambivalent
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A former-MI6 intelligence expert has recommended ISIS fighters from Syria be allowed back into the country because 'remorseful' ones could be used as double agents.

Or triple agents it seems.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:46 | 5190818 falak pema
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Best example of a "remorseful" agent : Lawrence of Arabia who wrote Seven pillars of wisdom, after having organised the Arabs as Sykes-Picot re-occupation plan surrogates in the dismembering of Ottoman empire's smoking ruins. 

That legacy is still smoking hot by the looks of it!

Only now, since 1956, the US have taken over the camel brigade from the Brits.

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:27 | 5191773 TheGardener
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Big falak fail as usual. Bagdad rails was a German thing
and had to be failed. Screw this evil agent "of Arabia "and curse the hell hole he came from.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 21:02 | 5192259 August
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It's pretty funny to believe that carefully-selected ISIS fighters will be loyal to the UK governmnet, when a majority Scots are not.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:20 | 5191762 TheGardener
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NWO for nigh. Kill me who? I mean it, who is leading and cheerleading it ?

Stop them, they are the type you always wanted to run over at the curb without a second thought.

Cretin creatures pulled out to daylight would just fade away like the vampires they are.

Grab your torturers by the neck, no stopping you.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:20 | 5190479 intric8
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Let europe shoot itself in the foot. If its citizens are dumb enough to follow leaders who suck up to mandates of the west, then they deserve the discomfort.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:45 | 5190599 X-defiler
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Because Americans don't follow their stupid and insane leaders.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 03:03 | 5192777 Monotaur
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Intric8, what a stupid comment, and 50 thumbs up? People, look, who you "follow" here in the States ... where is your revolution?

Well, you obviously have been dumb enough to follow your leader into Iraq, Guantamo, Drone war etc ....

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:20 | 5190480 NoPension
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This will not be sorted out "diplomatically".

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:41 | 5190572 813kml
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The anit-semitism card is even more effective than the race card, follow the rats deserting the sinking ship if you want to live.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:02 | 5190661 Keyser
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Alas, much like the boy that cried wolf once too often, the anti-semite chant is now starting to fall on deaf ears... That conditioned shiver that goes up one's spine when accused of being anti-semetic no longer works given the evidence of zionist influence on world affairs and their power in politics, banking and media... They have the perfect cover hiding behind the Jewish banner and screaming anti-semetism every time they are caught out, but they are no more jewish than the man in the moon... 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:11 | 5190709 TheReplacement
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Deeper, look deeper.  Zionism is supposed to be about Jewish nationalism.  What good comes to the state of Israel and/or Jews in general if there is a world war between east and west?  These people operate under the cover of zionism but they do not care if Jews are murdered.  They don't care who is murdered as long as they get their wealth and power, and apparently, reduced population. 

This is not a crisis of nationalism.  This is a crisis of globalism.  Someone wants to rule the world.  They don't care who is ground to dust along the way.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:15 | 5191735 Kirk2NCC1701
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The original wing of National Zionism -- a Homeland for Jews, in Palestine -- has been taken over by the Global Zionists and has become the default wing associated with 'Zionism'.  These guys have outgrown the national boundaries of their own country and that of Israel itself, and have created a Global Network that seeks to make their Worldview and their Oligarchs and Chief Rabbis in each country as the Ruling Elite.

This has been happening so fast and coordinated in the last 13+ years, that few people are realizing the full extent and implication.  Many who do realize it, are too weak, too scared, too comfortable (bribed), too compromised or too complicit to do anything about it.  Even rational and fair attempts to reign in their influence is turned into "Antisemitism"

The GRC of the USD is in deep trouble, the Defense spending of the EU has been falling, Russia and Iran offer energy alternatives to Europe and Asia, US fracking does not have the longevity that was promised... so, it all adds up to Big Trouble for the Petro-Dollar, whose fundamental model is predicated on constant or growing demand. 

If the USD "falls" (loses its GRC status), so does the bottomless and hidden funding for the MIC and the Zionists --> Game Over.  It's Do or Die time for the Fed, the MIC and the Global Zionists, and they are desperate not to have the EU, Russia or China outplay and beat them.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:08 | 5190689 TheReplacement
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That just the thing though.  The anti-smeitism is real and real average Jews will pay the price again.  The people doing this cannot be religious Jews nor real honest to goodness Zionists if they willingly bring death and destruction to their own people in favor of personal wealth and power.  There certainly is a global cabal of a mafia sort but they are antireligious and certainly antihumanistic.  They are monsters.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:35 | 5190982 FeralSerf
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The Rothschilds didn't hesitate to sacrifice millions of Jews in WW2. The Rothschilds could have prevented the Jewish holocaust if it had wanted, but it wasn't profitable to do so.

The Chosen People have been "chosen" to be cannon fodder before and it could happen again as well.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:01 | 5190653 Eahudimac
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People need to understand who the semites are and those who claim to be semites really are. Here is a start:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37821/title/Geneti...

The ancient kingdom of Khazaria includes eastern Ukraine, Russian and the Caucases. 

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127483#.VAx_APldV8E

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:25 | 5190726 TheReplacement
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I recall reading in Viking history that they did very well against the Slavs (slavs became slaves in our language because of this).  Their advances were blunted by Constantinople and the Khazarians to the south and east, respectively.

Edit:  Regardless, you are not who you were born to.  You are what you do.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:30 | 5190963 FeralSerf
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The Khazarians won. (And not just vs. the Vikings.)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 23:25 | 5192544 conscious being
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Eahudimac - in your 2nd link, the map of khazaria w/ the capitol located doesn't load. ??

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:21 | 5190487 Amerikan Patriot
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We need more pro-Putin supporters here voicing their unvarnished support for reconstituting the Soviet Union.

Come on, anti-Americans, speak up!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:28 | 5190515 DeadFred
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Go Kenya!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:40 | 5190575 IridiumRebel
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Stupid Post. People are anti-war here. We are sick of seeing the all but gone national wealth used to create MOAR WAR. It's actually quite Pro-America if you consider us giving a shit about our future. So on that note, fuck the fuck off and bring intelligent commenting or go masturbate elsewhere, fuckhead.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:37 | 5190988 BlindMonkey
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You took the vulgar words right from my mouth IR. Gracias!!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:42 | 5190581 ebworthen
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It is not the Soviet Union anymore, and it was something else entirely before the Communists came allong.

Kiev is 535 miles from Moscow.  You think if Russia backed a Communist coup in Ottawa we'd be upset about it?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:28 | 5190765 TheReplacement
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"You think if Russia backed a Communist coup in Ottawa we'd be upset about it?"

Doesn't that seem to be the result in Canada?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:28 | 5190957 FeralSerf
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He makes the traditional fallacy (The Big Lie) of "Communist" vs. "Capitalist" that we've all been conditioned (brain-washed) since kindergarten to believe is the way the world works.

Rather than this false "Communist" vs. "Capitalist" fallacy, it would be much more accurate to make the comparison as "Tribe Z" vs. the "Second World".

(The "Second World" also has a "Tribe Z" component just in case things don't work out as planned.)

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:44 | 5190586 Eahudimac
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Yeah, fuck those eastern Ukranians for defending themselves against the Euromaidan Nazis! Hooray for the USA and democracy!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government...

For those of you who refuse to read the link here is the [/sarc]

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:06 | 5190678 Keyser
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For an American Patriot you sure are uninformed... Perhaps disinfomred would be a better term, just like most of the sheeple in the US... Let's here it now, USSA.... USSA..... USSA...... 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 23:34 | 5192556 conscious being
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More like amerikan bankster whore, not an American Patriot.

Look how he spells Amerikan. Is that how they teach it in TelAviv??

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:24 | 5190752 flash338
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I'm not pro-Putin...  Just anti-stupidity which the west seems to show a lot of.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 22:26 | 5192454 Freddie
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Putin respects and defends Russia, the Russian people and Russian culture.  The Obama-AIPAC-Z-US Govt does everything to destroy America and the American middle class.  The same Z-scum is doing this to Europeans, Aussies, NZ and Canadians.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:29 | 5190775 TheReplacement
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I am extremely pro-American and I consider myself a patriot.  This means I am against the lies and deceptions of the US government against its people and the peoples of the world. 

You would seem to be a blind loyalist to the government of the US, not the country itself.  I feel sorry for you. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:02 | 5191544 F0ster
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Unfortunately a lot of these so called patriots suck off the US Gov payroll teet (CIA, FEDS, COPS etc) So they support the criminal direction and policies of DC. This blind support isn't patriotism but treason IMO.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:45 | 5191340 JR
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What’s ahead? The Bankers will decide. And if there are intelligent people left who don’t understand what world government is like, they are shortly to find out.

…because tyrants serve the needs of tyrants. And the people perish.

The Bankers’ disregard for the people of Europe, first to provoke war and now to submerge their standard of living, means those leaders meeting in Wales are like little errand boys sent off to do the masters’ bidding. Likewise, those little errand boys in Washington, D.C., are doing the same masters’ bidding and America's standard of living, likewise, is plummeting.

These current descendants of the Bolsheviks who slaughtered the people in the U.S.S.R. have the same disregard for humanity and the same goals for humanity: rape, pillage, kill – until there is no opposition.

Mises Weekends: Dr. Philipp Bagus Explains The Tragedy of the Euro  | LewRockwell.com

Ryan McMaken

Jeff Deist and Philip Bagus discuss not only the history and possible future of the Euro, but also the ECB under Draghi; the nationalist sentiments sweeping some European nations that want their own currency back; how the ECB has effectively monetized the sovereign debt of the PIIGS; and how Germans may well be nostalgic for the Bundesbank.

Philipp Bagus is an associate professor at Universidad Rey Juan Carlos. He is an associate scholar of the Ludwig von Mises Institute and was awarded the 2011 O.P. Alford III Prize in Libertarian Scholarship. He is the author of The Tragedy of the Euro    so far translated and published in GermanFrenchSlovakPolishItalianRomanian,  FinnishSpanishPortugueseBritish EnglishDutchBrazilian PortugueseBulgarian, and Chinese. See his website.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/mises-weekends-dr-philipp-bagus-explains-the-tragedy-of-the-euro/

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:55 | 5191372 Hapa
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Sounds like a pro sports man, all about picking a team and holding on, no matter the franchise has moved to another town and once again on a losing streak.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:22 | 5190488 MalteseFalcon
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Long wood.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:39 | 5190569 Ginsengbull
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Cord wood hasn't escalated in price more than 50% since the 1970's.

 

Eventually it has to appreciate.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 23:37 | 5192559 conscious being
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To late to cut now for this winter. Firewood has to dry.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:00 | 5190652 CHX
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Short forests.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:07 | 5190683 Keyser
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Obama:  Driver or 3 wood?

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:44 | 5190820 cheech_wizard
Sun, 09/07/2014 - 18:18 | 5191758 WVO Biker
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I bought this 1947 german booklet on wood gas generation. Trust me, most of you would not be commuting on wood gas. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 21:21 | 5192313 cheech_wizard
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I own wooded acreage. If it comes down to having to use a wood gas generator, it won't be for transportation, it will be used for running the generator to keep power to the freezers and refrigerators when the electrical grid comes apart...

But I agree with your premise 100%. Most would not be commuting with it.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 06:08 | 5192879 WVO Biker
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I use wood for generating heat and photovoltaic cells to make electricity, storing electricity still being a problem of course. The sheer abundance of wood is fascinating.

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:24 | 5190498 DeliciousSteak
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Well, well, well. Mr. Putin faces tough times ahead. Will mighty Russia survive a senior partner like China? Or might the Russians still prefer a more, hmm, western orientation? Whatever you choose, Mr. Putin, there is no saving face. Cut your losses, accept western dominance and perhaps, just maybe, Siberia won't be overrun by the Dragon. *cough*

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:46 | 5190598 Spastica Rex
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I have no love for Putin, but what you wrote there is just utterly fucking retarded.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:48 | 5190838 oudinot
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I think the appropriate phrase is, "mentally challenged."

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:42 | 5191001 BlindMonkey
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The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy …
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you…?
The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:09 | 5190698 Keyser
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Who died and made you emperor? Barry will be upset that you are calling the shots without consulting him... Be wary of nail guns and mail men...

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:24 | 5190501 schatzi
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It's an escalation, but far from "all in". Stop being hysterical.

While these listed companies may be targeted, actual gas contracts are not affected. It's mainly oil and banking that will feel the pinch - obviously, because that's where there's the least dependency. "All in" would be gas and that would really be economic end game for both us Europeans and Russia and since Tylers' assumptions regarding Putin's reaction are based on information he has pulled out of his arse, I'd see this whole event slightly less dramatic.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:27 | 5190513 himaroid
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"Stop being hysterical."

They said.

Until they became hysterical.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:10 | 5190704 Keyser
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Putin's reaction will be to cut off fossil fuel transport to the EU... Don't believe it? Wait until around November - December time frame... 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:06 | 5190895 angel_of_joy
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Wishfull thinking, German flavor. Better watch out this winter...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 23:44 | 5192569 conscious being
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Schatzi - why do you assume the AngloZionist set the terms and scope of the engagement. Go read some Sun Tzu while there's still time.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:25 | 5190504 RonBurgundy
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People freezing in Europe might be just enough to turn a cold war into a hot one, if only to provide an alternative for heating up those frozen toes

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:44 | 5191006 BlindMonkey
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Europe has done that "invade Russia in the winter" thing a few times before. Doubt they will get a different outcome this time.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:26 | 5190506 FlipFlop
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Wow. Has stove no longer the most useful?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:27 | 5190512 studfinder
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Just take 10 million barrels of oil a day off the market for a week and see what happens...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:44 | 5191011 BlindMonkey
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Shale oil will save us!!

/s

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 17:26 | 5191613 HardlyZero
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Whale oil, using sails to get out on the high seas without Oil.

Without Nuclear, and high Oil prices, it might be difficult to get shale oil out of the ground in many regions.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:28 | 5190519 Duc888
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Amerikan Patriot: We need more pro-Putin supporters here voicing their unvarnished support for reconstituting the Soviet Union.

Come on, anti-Americans, speak up!

 

Explain to me again why this is a US problem?


Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:39 | 5190566 Aussie V
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Oh, it's not a US problem in the sense that you will be affected. At least not directly. Yet!

However, it IS a problem for those dying in Ukraine of which the US funded and orchestrated. I suppose that may be considered a moral problem but one which you will nit be affected. I doubt any of this would see you affected anyway unless of course it hits your wallet which, it more than likely won't, at least directly.

But be aware that hese immoral acts of your Govt have a way of boomaranging on its people over time and then, you may be affected but personally, I doubt it.

You should read this awesome article about how western people can watch their governments kill people and feel totally unaffected or any blame. I think it is an EXCELLENT article and very very deep and well thought through. Then again, you probably won't 'get it'.

http://www.for-the-fans.com/existentialism-the-abject-horrors-of-war-and...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:17 | 5190929 buyingsterling
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I think he meant we should butt out.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:20 | 5190937 Carpenter1
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This story is unclear, what do these sanctions involve? They could be utterly meaningless or devastating. 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 15:15 | 5191251 css1971
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Well. You started it...

Why DID you start it?

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:28 | 5190520 George Soros
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Germany has a 6 month strategic reserve of gas. Even for german winters that should be more than enough. Sorry to burst that bubble dream though

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:40 | 5190571 NoIdea
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The UK probably has about 3 weeks of gas reserves. Better pray for a warm winter!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297296/British-gas-reserves-run...

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:44 | 5190588 George Soros
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Can´t remember one cold winter in England.. Scotland is a different story but they wont be part of the empire anyway until then so who give a fuck

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:52 | 5190625 Sandmann
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Try living in Yorkshire it can be colder than Aberdeen and darker

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 23:00 | 5192510 Freddie
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The British GP is held at Silverstone which I think is in Oxfordshire.  They say it is cold as hell there even in the summer.  The UK also gets damp and cold because it is an island.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 01:43 | 5192719 Sandmann
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UK is damp and cold especially in North which is on same latitude as Nova Scotia.....

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:55 | 5190632 Sandmann
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I would not believe it.....they will price ration. Wait for the hikes to start in October although wholesale prices dropped dramatically no change in retail

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 12:20 | 5190743 Keyser
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Of course the tactic will be for Brussels to blame Putin to gain the support for NATO action against Russia... The US administration is serving up the EU on a platter for utter and complete destruction... Oh what a wicked web we weave... 

 

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:15 | 5190922 crazzziecanuck
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If the EU is allowing itself to be sacrificed by the USA, then it's not the USA's fault.  It's the EU's fault.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 11:46 | 5190602 nowhereman
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Well George it's like this, Germany will have a choice to make vis-a-vis said gas reserve.  Heat homes or run factories, one or the other I'm afraid.

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