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Europe's Russian Sanctions In Jeopardy As "One Country" Holds Out
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I'm told #EU country holding up #Russia sanctions is having coalition problems and is not objecting per se. Approval could come shortly.
— Peter Spiegel (@SpiegelPeter) September 8, 2014
As 'rumors' of European sanctions against Russia's major oil energy firms are leaked strawman-like to the market and expected to be enacted as soon as tomorrow, it appears there is a 'glitch' in the union. The FT's Peter Spiegel reports that one country is holding out on EU sanctions and that is the reason for an emergency unscheduled meeting of EU diplomats this evening.
I'm told one country is holding out on #EU's #Russia sanctions, hence an emergency meeting of ambassadors just called.
— Peter Spiegel (@SpiegelPeter) September 8, 2014
- *EU DIPLOMATS SAID TO MEET LATER TODAY ON RUSSIA SANCTIONS PLAN
- *EU DIPLOMATS SAID TO MEET 6PM CET ON RUSSIA SANCTIONS ENACTMENT
- *EU DIPLOMATIC MEETING ON RUSSIA SANCTIONS WAS UNSCHEDULED
* * *
While it is unclear which country it is, something tells us its name begins with an 'A' and ends in 'ustria'...
Three words... South Stream Pipeline...
Or starts with 'S' and ends in 'lovakia'... As despite their bravado that ".. they will survive" the concerns over Russia suspending shipments through the nation as well as Ukraine is perhaps too risky for the fragile nation:
Probability that Russia’s Gazprom will suspend gas transport to Europe through Ukrainian pipelines early next yr "quite high," early Slovak PM Robert Fico says in TV debate on TA3 news channel.
"I'm not worried. The suspension can't last long enough that we wouldn't survive. We have gas in storage for many months, and there are reverse flows from West."
UPDATE:
I've been told it is not #Cyprus, #Hungary or #Slovakia that is holding up #EU's #Russia sanctions.
— Peter Spiegel (@SpiegelPeter) September 8, 2014
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Was it Finland that gets 100% of its natural gas from Russia?
Plot twist - the holdout is actually Ukraine!
Hey Obama! Hey McCain! I know "Mongo just pawn in game of life". But, just the same.......
Go Fuck Yourselves.
...Does Ukraine even make quality chocolate?
Send in the bombers and throw in a few False Flags too, for good measure.
The 'European experiment' will not be a success unless you can use it to get a good war going when you really need it.
Seems Europe just can't bend over far enough to be Wall Streets/Langleys/America's bitch. Russia is the only nation with any balls on that financially and politically neutered continent.
Spoiler alert, find out which secondary gas companies will be supplying the shortfall for this deranged policy, and buy them. Hopefully this self destructive tactic will result in manufacturing relocating to Russia to avail of cheap energy.
Putin for president
Putin/Paul 2016
At least somebody somewhere knows enough not to kill themselves to punish the other guy.
Polish firing squad. Four executioners line up at the quadrants of the compass around the man about to die. Works every time.
Can somebody please tell me again what exactly these sanctions are supposed to 'fix?' I'm having a little trouble with the narrative, as facts get thrown out and thinking becomes more PSYCHOPATHIC.
As in Belgian quality?
Not by the hair of your chinnie chin chin.
I eat a lot of chocolate (good stuff) ... I just ate a 70% bar from Poland and it was...terrible. I'd imagine Ukraine is probably not up to European levels. Germans know how to make chocolate, France, Belgium...
Germans know how to make chocolate, France, Belgium...
Switzerland friggin invented milk chocolate! Switzerland all the way.
Switzerland may have invented milk chocolate, but the Belgians refined it to its ultimate art form. A perusal of the Brussels chocolate shops, where Lady Godiva is merely ordinary Hershey class mass market chocolate, will prove that. Belgium also has the finest ice cream in the world, with the possible exception of a certain chocolate gelato shop in Rome.
The Swiss do have excellent chocolate though, perhaps the best mass manufactured chocolate there is.
Print some more Dollars to make things move!
The article's headline is just too much too take. Fascist defend freedoms. What in the holy fuck does that mean?
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/30/preparing_for_war_with_...
A headline only fascists desperate for their own Lebensraum and pipeline could write.
An American, not US subject.
WWIII in 3...2...1
Starvation in Russia may incite internal instability, worst case Civil War, and thus WW-III.
What most here seem to forget is that Russia gets a lot of her food from Europe.
Revolutions happen when the masses become hungry.
like there is not enough argentinian steaks and russians dont have the oil to move it
That costs money that the Russians will not have due to the shortages of revenues.
What will they give the Argentines in return?
Yeah...I know...A promise to pay? Argentina's economy is a wreck and if you'd trust those bastards to deliver then you really must be stupid.
How much more does it cost to move Argentine beef than American chicken?
Not much, I suspect.
"What will they give the Argentines in return?"
American treasuries?
They are getting European chicken...not American chicken.
Why would they pay a premium?
There's a premium for American chicken over the European variety? I don't think so.
Beef for oil? Sounds like a fine arrangment to me.
Each offers what the other has.
How does the freeloading banker get his cut?
If possible while the freeloading banker's strapped down to a wooden bench with a black bag over his head. The cut is usually between 3rd and 5th vertebrae...
Russia could easily become self sufficient in food. Obviously tropical fruits and some stonefruit would be impossible to grow, but that is where China/South America/etc come in. Many very popular rootstocks for apples and plums come from Russia.
Please tell me they are bringing in Argentinian chefs to cook that shit up. A solid BBQ is so much better than boiling that fine-ass beef up in a borsch.
Ehh, they get alot of the frills from Europe, not the stuff they people need but what they want. The Russians are in no possition to be starved to death if that is your meaning.
They survive on IMPORTS. The breadbasket of Russia was the Ukraine years ago.
Russia has liittle arable land. They have to import to survive.
Tall Tom, the EU was a convenient place to get food supplies but others have pointed out Russia has options.
Russia has already chosen to stop some food shipments from the EU in response to sanctions. Russia now has positive trade relations with China and with South America. Both of those areas may just prefer to sell to Russia. The US gets food supplies from South America but has been meddling down there again. So SA may prefer to sell to Russia and to move away from complete dependence on the dollar (or the US consumer).
What Russia get from the EU is money.
China IMPORTS and cannot provide for her people. (In fact China imports a lot of food from the USA.)
As for the South American continent, 13,000 miles away, they may have "good relations". But they lack funding as you pointed out.
Russia has sanctioned the frills but not the basics.
The EU just does not put a suicidal gun to their own head and shoot. They are a little wiser.
Give them some credit as they implode.
The US imports food from China so I think Russia could also.
If the US can ship food from SA and China then Russia can ship as well. China is closer but SA will have a longer route.
While the countries in SA have financial difficulties the other end of those difficulties seem to be US and western countries (or IMF type issues). They would be happy to substitute Russia as a customer. The US has shown those who are dependent on the US/west banks will be pushed around using financial weapons.
These sanctions will hurt Russia but that is because Russia did not plan ahead with a pipeline to China. IMO
What most here seem to forget is that Russia gets a lot of her food from Europe.
Guess what fertilizer is made from? You gusessed it, NATURAL GAS.
imagine 28 nations (with the exception of 1) all agreeing to sanction your country and your people.
Putin must be starting to get pissed off with this, this is a major test for him moving forward no matter what type of leader he is.
My concern is, if for some reason, his ratings plummet and the people dont back him (either for his diplomacy or his lack of cohesive action) then if someone takes his place that is a war mongerer then god help all of us.
now you mention it maybe finland...
a whoile bunch of countries have no interest whatsoever in stopping business with russia;
maybe it's just one country that really want to cut ties & not the other way round (& the one i think about is not even in europe)
It is Finland. Few weeks ago the finnish president make deal with Putin in Yalta. Don't forget - Finland depends almost half of it's export on Rossia.
Putin rulez :)
Finland and Ukraine. Now the US has finally found a market for their cheap and clean frack gas. The Ukraine needs it. Lets quick build some ships and bring it from the US via Black Sea to the Ukraine. Price does not matter, anyhow they can not pay. But no problem the Fed is going to print what is needed and sends it to Ukraine for free. Only the printing costs have to be paid.
oh poop....
...meet fan.
I am really confused? Why are they (we) sanctioning Russia? Because the people of Crimea voted to be part of Russia after they (we) staged a coup d'etat and turned their nation into a failed state?
Should not they (we) be the ones being sanctioned?
Take the wind out of all this sanction blustering by cutting off the gas/oil now.
You did not read this. When the sanctions happen the deliveries will be rejected.
Also the exports of European FOOD to Russia cease. That is what has been FAILED to be mentioned.
Trade Wars lead to HOT WARS...FAST.
Yeah. Let's just stop delivering FOOD to Russia.
Hungry people are REVOLTING after all.
I wonder why you clamor for War and the end of life on this Planet. You just must have a death wish and are a closet suicide.
No death or suicide wish here TT...but maybe I'm being flippant thousands of miles away with plenty of wood and growing food.
It's my opinion that the west is instigating all this and besides...isn't there an import ban on food already? Food can be planted but not oil.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-bans-food-imports-from-us-eu/...
Tall Tom-
They'll import food from Israel. No sanctions there.
"we stand together because we believe the imf has the right to determine people and nations destiny, that includes the people & nation of ukraine" obama & many other mother fuckers thought
HH - you aren't very good at following narratives that are spoon-fed to you, are you?
Well, I suppose many of us that are "confused" will soon be receiving the same centralized learning module in our state-provided education facilities.*
*responds poorly to state propaganda (ie.: unpatriotic)
Nice;-)
You sanction Russia because they want to sell oil and gas in national currency...
Photo caption:
Obama to Porky: "OK fatboy, get down there. It's time to pay the piper and slurp on my Reggie Love stick. Bitch."
poland is the most dependent on russian gas & winters get cold over there.
Wrong. Unless you choose to ignore, oh i don't know, facts and such.
just print the facts instead of showing off your wide mouth & waste bandwidth
zero power, ok i get it now, zero power, 100% useless
It's been discussed and shown here ad nauseum what countries get what % of their NatGas from Russia.
Looks like we got a real University of Phoenix graduate here folks...
somehow i'm flattered (english not being my mother tongue)
now show the fucking percentages (i couldn't care less that you saw them somewhere) then call me dumb as much as you want, just do it right mr useless
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014...
Thank You !!!
Are you Polish?
How's your Yiddish?
Hey! Fuck you. I am a UoP grad. I had the job and back-filled the paper. There are many like me too. KMFA from Phoenix to Atlanta and back. bitch.
The issue is driven by both the percentages that the individual countries use and the pathway with which the gas gets to them that are important.
IE, Slovakia and others are downstream from Ukraine, so Russia shutting down Ukrain's gas would also affect others as well.
And the Cold winter approaches... Suit up!
Fashion FORWARD!
All the turmoil concerning Russia is great for trading cfd's. It causes a lot of volatility.
meanwhile futures rally yet again
While it is unclear which country it is,...
Pretty sure it's a country that gets damn cold in the winter...
from my perspective living next to ukraine, even with that transgas pipe running through, cold war 2.0 suddenly takes on a new meaning
Why not a country that starts with "G" and ends with something that sounds like "enema"?
yeah that 'G' country with 3000 companies that do business with Russia
+1. The psychotropics must be inexpensive in your part of the world.
Well, the Austrian foreign minister Sebastian Kurz is quite young, he might need some 'special briefing' - I guess the NSA is currently checking/updating his records.
the advantage of very young politicians or latecomers, like Ursula von der Leyen (7 kids : - ) is that the NSA might not have anything on them
How did that European saying go?
"Never trust an Austrian. They convinced the whole world that Hitler was a German, and that Motzart was an Austrian."
First, learn to spell. Secondly, Mozart *was* Austrian.
Had to down-vote you. We don't need the Spelling Police here, just as we don't need their moron relatives, the Grammar Police. The arrogance of such people is putrefying to the entire thread.
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If you prefer to die illiterate, be my guest.
Blame apple and their fuckin spell check. I not sure exactly where you pendantic asshats go on the internet to circle-jerk edit each other but it sure the fuck ain't here.
There's a long way between a spelling error and being illiterate...conflating such things is much more problematic than some grammar and spelling problems because those are simple mistakes...the other is a complete error in analysis.
You are right. Spelling Police is boring. But one can spot a pro Kiev or pro Russian troll often by spelling errors. And/or the fact they only signed up a couple of weeks ago.
Salzburg was never part of Austria during Mozart's lifetime. Mozart considered himself German and would not have accepted being called Austrian -- which no one would ever have done as he was no such thing. The fact that today Salzburg is in Austria does not make Mozart an Austrian -- although Austria loves to claim him as one of its own.
dont tread on my Schluchtenscheissers
Im against sanctions. But western countries should simply eliminate all those armed Putin regime goons that are labled as "seperatists". In crimea they shood be all shoot in head when first appeared. Than situation would not get so far. But during that time ukrain military was still with putin goons who betrayed ukraine.
You mean the oligarchs? You mean the Nazis? You mean the bought-and-paid-for US state department lackies that are implementing the encirclement of Russia according to the blueprint from the '70s?
The people involved have a say in this you fucking troll. If they don't want the yoke of the western slavemasters they should not bear the weight of them. Take a poll, have a vote. The people of E. Ukraine have spoken. They choose not to be a pawn of the genocide that you advocate.
Do you have a problem with that? Fine. Saddle up motherfucker and get to the front.
I personally hope that a "trophy" grads tattoos your ass into oblivion.
You can hang on a power line like this other Nazi prick. http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/82944.html
viedoklaizi_dirsa is just revealing his genocidal urges. I think it runs in his family, or maybe it's just a Latvian thing somehow.
Hey McDum , time to deliver that Fracking Gas you promised Europe.
I was thinking it was "G" and ends with an ermany.
They're the ones that are actually productive, and their economy is the one holding the whole EU thing together. No nat gas, no production, no economy, no EU.
way better to pay a little country to take the heat from the US wrath,
maybe Krugman gets a heart attack, if the Austrians are again in the way
I've been told it is not #Cyprus, #Hungary or #Slovakia that is holding up #EU's #Russia sanctions.
Maybe Frau Merkel decided to take Mr Binney's letter seriously?
Obviously Germany obvious...
I cannot believe all these muppet countries. If sanctions are shooting ourselves in the foot, why not veto them????? Question to Hungarian prime minister Orban. Spineless idiot.
Its in all interests to stop hitler rising but sanctions wont stop putin he only understands a punch in his head.
You are confused sir. Just like in the past Russia is fighting against the Nazi's not for them.
That's why viedokuce is against the Russians. His grandpa still marches in the Nazi Ghey Pride parades in Riga.
I agree...stop Hitler NOW!!!!
Crazy, you know? I thought he was already dead. Huh?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/slovakia-wants-water-down-parts-russia-sanctio...
In any event, it looks like Russia's counter-measures if Europe invokes further sanctions will be to close off Russian airspace to Western carriers, causing some of them to go bankrupt.
(Sept 8, 2014)
If new EU sanctions hit energy sector, Russia may close airspace - Medvedev
There has got to be at least one NSA agent here.
Drop us a hint.
Hey man - I'm more than just my job, you know?
Tyler, how long will you keep this Putin-cheerleading game up anyway? Does the Kremlin pay well for your trolling and the vindication of the Russian thuggish behaviour?
You wont read in ZH how Putin regime destroys independent media http://www.rferl.mobi/a/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html imagine something like that in west
Western mainstream media is not independent
some of the fringe media is still noncompliant
How could anyone be against the banning of advertising on pay tv? Advertising is the scourge of our times.
I wish they would ban ads on Western television. First of all it is annoying, second it pays for boring television. Perhaps if they ban I would go back to owning a TV. Tossed mine out 10 years ago....Nah, I like my free time too much to waste it on television, the drug of a nation.
Anyway, I get your point. Putin does control the media. But in the West it is not much different. It is done with soft power. Most news agencies get their news from national press associates that get their news from government sources. Most established news media just copy the news they are fed. No one steps out of line in order not to sound out of main stream. It is just like in the wars in Yugoslavia: news was one sided up to a point where every refugee automatically was a muslem even though they were Serb or Croat. Remember the Gulf wars with their embedded journalists? In Russia censorship might be in your face but the voluntary compliance of the Western media is even worse. It leads to whornalism.
Newscasters agree...
If your link is accurate...I did just read it here on ZH. You knew you posted it here right?
If ZH was really the propaganda machine "pro-Putin" (or are you calling Hitler today...or was that yesterday and today it's Stalin again...it's really confusing and I wish you would stick with one name for the guy) you claim it is than how are your posts still here?
Again...and again...and again...make a good argument and we will listen. Don't just tell us why Putin is bad...tell us why we should have more confidence any politician in the west is better? Not just your opinion...analysis.
Independent media in the West.
Yeti.
And how much does your employer pay you to troll? You've only been with ZH for 14 weeks. Fresh out of Kiev troll school?
Why not go to BI or CNN and troll there a bit?
He gets paid 4 Gryvnia for each anti-Putin comment that he posts, and a bonus of one lump of coal for Hitler comparisons.
Pinstripe the Pinhead said:
This guy sounds 'latvian'.
Putin the great chess player? If so the China pipeline should have been already built, some say it can be done in less than a year but I wonder.
If the EU has bought extra gas and stored it for the winter then Russia's companies should have banked those profits as well unless they were short sighted and spent it as they got it.
Perhaps thie country holding out is working with Putin (and Putin was ahead of the game), or is aware their economy will be sacrificed by the EU/US/UK. But maybe they are just negotiating a little more jelly on their toast.
Perhaps Putin is now playing chess but he got caught flat footed and far behind when this all started. If the pipeline was in place and Russia would be in a very strong position. When is the SWIFT alternative going to be fully functional, why was Russia using compromised US based computer equipment and software, why did Russia not even have a functional credit card. Answer - a degree of sloth and tendency to be reactive and not proactive. Now Putin is spending too much time with containing damage from the opposition. If the China pipeline was in place, as it should be, Russia would redirect business to other customers and use the sanctions to cut off the EU entirely (and long term) at this point.
China cant compensate EU, they will buy in less amount for lower price
Someone (outside of Gazprom and the energy traders) really needs to build an app for that... because the math is way more complex than simple sourcing percentages. Germany and Ukraine have the largest storage capacity in Europe (by huge volumes) Germany only sources about a third of it gas from Russia and now has relatively full UGS tanks, Ukraine on the other hand was only at 50% storage capacity when Russia cut off basically 100% of their imported flow. In addition to variance in storage capacity and sourcing, there is usage (residential, commercial, industrial, agricultural, and power generation).
Bottom line -- "Russia's companies should have banked those profits as well unless they were short sighted and spent it as they got it." isn't compatible with the realities of the European gas business.
Peter Spiegel @SpiegelPeter · 5 min
The #EU country that was holding up #Russia sanctions is sending its "yes" now, I'm told.
isaac schlomo moses al bagdadi chief operating officer of the isis,isil,eye and s factors ltd.
this complex multi headed snake listed in tel aviv,city of london new york has stated that austria will be added into the corporations portfolio and onto the books as a vital asset a kosher bridge head into the european theatre.
bagdadi said my fellow muslims this is the time your time and mine to make israel great again.
let us reset austria back to year zero let us erase all history.
rabbis and fake muslim acts lets roll.
100 years ago Europe was sleepwalking into a world war. Now they are stampeding blindfolded. Europeans don't want another war fought on their continent. That is very inconvenient for those who do want it.
As it was the two times before... .
But with Global Warming
WHY would people ever need Gas to stay warm in the winter?
Don't we have furry friendly Polar Bears to help us keep warm?
BTW, for all those "Drought in the West" people, hurricane Norberto just landed in Phoenix. 5 inches of rain in the past 12 hours or so. Schools cancelled on a "Rain" day.
Peter Spiegel @SpiegelPeter · 4 ???
I think you found the problem country MT @inglesi Finn PM @alexstubb giving presser - #Finland supports sanctions but "problems with timing"
"problems with timing" hilarious
http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_finland_backs_new_eu_sanctions_but_timetable_is...
Finnish premier Alexander Stubb says that Finland supports the EU’s new package of sanctions against Russia. Following an ad hoc session of the government's EU ministerial committee Monday evening, Stubb said however that the timeline for enforcement of the new measures is "challenging". He added that the direct impact of new sanctions would be minimal, but stressed that he was worried about indirect repercussions and possible Russian countermeasures."Or starts with 'S' and ends in 'lovakia'..."
and just like politicians everywhere, once you have enough signed up to defeat the bill, everyone else breaths a sigh of relief...
Moving from globalization to every man for himself in short order.
Dear Putin,
please send all (yes every single) Pro-European (in truth: Pro-US) politicos to Sibiria at some really really REALLY cold place where no gas and no oil is available.
And please keep 'em over their for the rest of their lifes.
In exchange you get all of Ukraine - for free - including all the fascists, which you possibly also like to send to Sibiria to our friends just that they get what they deserve and have called for.
Furthermore, we the European poeple, have Zero (nil, nada, none, kein) interest neither the NATO nor the US war mongerers and will be happy to be part of one big country - EURUSSIA - living together in peace and harmony.
Further more we will be happy to create a new automated state-controlled banking and SWIFT system where banks are JUST there to serve the poeple (a cost free account for everybody) and not opposite, exchange all our trades in EUROs or Rubbles and boykott Israel and US made products because of never ending war mongering since WW2.
A totally pissed of European.
Fuck Nuland.
We the people of sovereign states within the European Union should stand up against the tyranny of these oligarchs in Brussels.
Goldhamster, thanks for making it clear to the point!
I´m too in the club of the totally pissed off Europeans - hopefully France will fuck the EU up. Plus independent Scotland and then in November Catalonia in Spain.
Let´s break this fucked up, hidden fascist Centralization of unelected and out-of-control Freaks in Brussels ( US ).
And let´s remove as soon as possible IM Erika and give way to somebody who really cares about Germany and it´s people, as Germany is playing a KEY-Role in this disgusting Ucraine-Theater-Muppets-Show.
what's the big secret Austria, Slovakia and a number of other countries have publicly said no to sanctions. hell it may even be DE
Its pretty obvious china is no ally of russia because I have yet to hear them speak out against this. Anyone with 1/8th of a brain knows if russia goes china next. So why china is absent is mind boggling and borders on complacent and wreckless foreign policy.
If you don't see that China is foresquare behind Russia, you better get a new pair of peepers.
Why do they keep their alliance a secret?
It probably stems from the 50's and the minions of Joe McCarthy and Curtis LeMay.
If the "Communism delenda est" boys thought that China and Russia were allied, we'd have had WWIII a couple of weeks after Eisenhower left office.
Hell, I don't even believe there was a border conflict between Russia and China and I've said it here a couple of times.
The Russian build up on Amur River began at the same time the US built up their forces in South Vietnam and the Russians went home when Nixon announced the withdrawal of American troops.
You don't have to Victoria Nuland to figure that one out.
At least there is some level of democracy in EU.
Where? What? Who? By EU you mean the "European Union"...right?
I am not sure if you realize the irony of your post.
It's quite amusing, actually.
Austria is required by the 1955 treaty to maintain a neutral foreign policy in east-west isues. It is forbidden to become a member of NATO. They cannot participate in an anti-Russian foreign policy.
Under the treaty, Stalin agreed to remove Russian occupation troops from Austria and it was permitted to have free elections.
If they violate this, Putin would be within his rights to re-occupy Austria with Russian troops.
There you go.
Mr. Gorbachev should have done that with Mr. Baker in the USSR/Warsaw Pact Breakup.
TPES of gas in Finland is only 10%. Sweden gets its gas from Denmark and gas TPES in Sweden is only 3,5%
My bet is on on Austria.
The Chinese laughing their butts off...so far their best course of action is to do nothing and let the west implode from its own stupidity....EU is truly dead if this is the caliber of its strategic thinking...strategy? what's that?
right, i disagree china i dont think this is the case where you can say "if your enemy is making mistakes let them continue" , this is more your "enemy" is slowly knocking on your neighbours door and you realize you are next, nothing to laugh about there. Unless of course it is in China's interest to see a significantly weakened russia, but at what cost to eventually have the hounds and boots on your door steps?
I've thought the same thing for a long time. Russia and china have some unpleasant history with each other, of course...but the Chinese aren't oblivious to the patterns of the west. While holding a crap load of US Treasuries may be "leverage" in a normal logical world, they are dealing with crazies in the west that seem to care little about destroying their own nations and the people in them to "prove a point".
If the west gets what they want in Russia...it would just embolden the sociopaths running these western nations (and I don't just mean their "governments") to go after China next. That's actually the most logical conclusion. Allowing the western corporatists to destroy Russia only puts a bigger target on China's back for some good ol neo-colonial "raping and pillaging". And when your ultimate goal is to control the people of the whole world (as it appears to be for the western crazies) than how could you let a billion plus Chinese out of the game?
I know it is not my country ( Croatia..) We have gas, we fart a lot..
Of course, it is Slovakia.
They are making up to Russia for having reversed their pipeline to flow East to Ukraine, by vetoing this current round of sanctions.
I never thought I'd ever agree with Victoria Nuland but
FUCK THE EU.