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Living In An Age Of Anything Goes And Nothing Matters

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Submitted by James H Kunstler vias Kunstler.com,

The memory hole is working overtime in the USA zeitgeist these days. Shit happens and a week or so later, it unhappens — at least it seems that way as manifested by the front page of The New York Times or the flapping of Anderson Cooper’s gums on CNN.

Anyone remember that Malaysian airlines plane that went down in July in Ukraine killing 283 persons? US government officials were jumping up and down trying strenuously to blame Russian Donbass separatists. The trouble was, they had no evidence whatsoever and their exertions were looking ridiculous (making the USA look ridiculous, of course). Last thing we heard, there were questions about two Ukrainian air force jets chasing it, and photos of entry and exit cannon holes in the pilot’s cabin. Recorded communications between the crew and traffic controllers were shoved into storage bin in the Netherlands, never to be made public. The whole story vanished from the news media like the legendary D.B. Cooper — anyone remember him? — and hasn’t resurfaced since.

Anyone remember the outbreak of World War Three in Ukraine two weeks ago? The USA was trying — again, strenuously — to promote the idea of a Russian invasion — minus any evidence of the actual Russian troops, you understand. That didn’t go over so well. All this was occurring, remember, because the USA was determined to make Ukraine a NATO member, contrary to explicit agreements reached with Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union to not expand NATO eastward. Anyway, there was no Russian invasion and the US State Department and the White House were left holding a pig in a poke that nobody wanted to buy. End of story, as Tony Soprano liked to say.

Recall the action in Ferguson, Missouri, last month. A very large teenager got shot and killed by a policeman named Darren Wilson. The scraggly suburb of St. Louis exploded in protest and then looting and violence. Don Lemon of CNN was egging it all on. Then the videos and photo came out: Michael Brown stealing cigars… Michael Brown posing with an semi-automatic pistol, a bottle of vodka, and a wad of dollars in his mouth. Hmmmmmm, maybe not such an innocent little lamb. Plus reports of broken bones in the policeman’s face. End of protests, end of story.

Something happened in the Gaza recently, didn’t it. Hamas fired rocket barrages into Israel and Israel answered with very aggressive action to stop the rockets. Eventually, the rockets did stop and so did the actions taken to stop them. Nothing in the news media ever suggested that there was a cause-and-effect relationship there. In fact, if anything, the news media went out of its way to excuse and rationalize the firing of rockets. The results speak for themselves, of course. But I’m sure few will remember that the whole thing started with the rockets.

Remember the Argentine bond default? That story dribbled away in a train of inconclusive confabulations, still ongoing. Argentina did default, by the way. The International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA) declared a “credit event,” tripping credit default swaps on those bonds. Some of the bonds couldn’t actually be found… but no matter. The machinations around this are admittedly abstruse, but I would suggest the bottom line is that nobody wants to see those credit default swaps actually triggered because doing so would induce such a majestic chain of counterparty failures extending far beyond Argentina that the very Gods on Olympus would have to start checking their bank accounts for bail-ins.

So it goes, as the late, great Vonnegut always said. All of these stories have something in common: tons of unanswered questions, which the news media shows no interest whatsoever in following up on. And no consequences. People die, nations rise and fall, money disappears, and everybody forgets. This can’t just be about the diminishing returns of the grotesquely over-hyped “information age” — though the blowback from computers and all they have wrought may be tremendous. No, the memory hole is the truest signifier of the times we live in: the Age of Anything Goes and Nothing Matters.

That may be changing, even as I write. The Age of Consequence comes in on little cat’s feet. (See Steve Ludlum at Economic-Undertow.com for an excellent disquisition on that.)

 

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Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:26 | 5193854 The Phallic Crusader
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"But I’m sure few will remember that the whole thing started with the rockets."

Wrong.  The rockets were fired in response to airstrikes in Gaza which followed kidnappings in the West Bank.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...

 

I find it hard to belive Kunstler simply made a mistake here in an article about truth and memory holing.  I think he lied on purpose.

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:38 | 5193912 Supernova Born
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Conflation and obfuscation of multiple news stories.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:03 | 5193935 hedgeless_horseman
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But I’m sure few will remember that the whole thing started with the rockets.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is an excellent example of trying to control the narrative.  The whole thing started with the rockets?  Really?  Why would the people in Gaza fire rockets at Israel, James?

This is like saying that the whole holocaust started after late October 1942, when the German authorities deported the majority of
Jews remaining in Germany directly to the killing center at Auschwitz-Birkenau or to Theresienstadt.

You won't see anything on the television news about the slaughter of civilians in Gaza, that is for sure.

The first one to walk out of the house was Shahid al-Najjar. He had his hands up, but the soldiers shot him. He was shot in the jaw and badly injured, but he survived. Two of the people in the house spoke Hebrew and asked the soldiers why they shot him, and the soldiers said that the rest of the men had to take our clothes off before we walked out. The rest of us came out.

 

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza-israeli-soldiers-shoot-and-kill-...

The soldiers said that the rest of the men had to take our clothes off before we walked out?

Where have I heard of this before? 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:04 | 5194033 Titus
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is an excellent example of trying to control the narrative.

EXACT-FUCKING-LY!

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:12 | 5194043 hedgeless_horseman
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The soldiers said that the rest of the men had to take our clothes off before we walked out?

 

Where have I heard of this before? 

Now I remember!  The Nazis did that too!

And Americans...

 

Propaganda and dehumanization. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:14 | 5194062 Hippocratic Oaf
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Obama administration and foreign policy makes as much sense as trying to light wet wood.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:32 | 5194158 rum_runner
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Still barking the red/blue line, huh?  You forgot to use "odumbo" though.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:36 | 5194183 sylviasays
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Still barking that there is no red/blue line, huh?  You forgot to use the terms "Zionist" and "neo-con" though.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:24 | 5194127 Kirk2NCC1701
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And the sad and perverse part is, it's faux "Christians" doing it.  Aka "Useful Fools".

Is this what being "Christ-like" is all about?  Is this "What would Jesus do?"

[crickets]

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:39 | 5194192 dirtscratcher
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Huh? Wha..? What Christians did that? I'm not seeing that. Where do you?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:03 | 5194312 Herd Redirectio...
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Americans are by and large, culturally at least, Christian.

The Nazis said "Gott mitt uns".

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:33 | 5194488 Lea
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Americans are a special brand of Christians that bears very little relation to other forms of Christianity. They are Protestants, a world onto itself. 

As for the Nazis, they were anti-Catholic (see Pope Pius X's encyclical "Mit brennender Sorge" (English: With Burning Anxiety) on the Church and the German Reich, 1937, for the reasons of the Nazi hate of the Vatican).  And then, they had this sort of Germanic pagan thingy you could goose-step to.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:42 | 5194531 sylviasays
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During world War II there were strong connections between the Muslim governments and the Nazis. Muslim extremists were strong supporters of Hitler. Many Muslim extremists VOLUNTARILY fought side by side with the Nazis until 1945 when it became clear the Nazis were going to lose the war. 

Islamo-Nazis also had this sort of Islamic battlecry prayer thingy you could goose-step to.

 

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/the-muslim-nazi-connection/

http://allanbogle.hubpages.com/hub/Husseininationalsocialism

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 08:53 | 5197028 N2OJoe
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Nah Persia would never...

Oops I mean Iran.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:40 | 5194200 sylviasays
Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:09 | 5194169 Son of Captain Nemo
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Wonderful comparison.

That last one just like all the errant drone hellfire missiles that have been fired since severely missed it's target!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:48 | 5194222 Herd Redirectio...
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Surprised that James did not mention his pet projects of climate change (AGW) and peak oil, nor wade into the comments section (yes, he posts here occasionally)!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:27 | 5194068 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well said h_h

And just like our boyz and girlz in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last decade that keep telling us they served their Country "honorably" and were unloved and under-appreciated by the countless Hadjees they indiscriminately tortured, raped and murdered giving them their blessed freedom... Congratulations! Your Zionist Masters taught you well!!!

To our Navy and Marine boyz with the help of your friend(s) in the NATO click.  Let's face it the "proxies" you've been using since before 9/11 have all dried up and now it's your turn to do the dirty work on your own.

Enjoy Club Ukraine and Club Syria!... 

Cause you will be in the deepest shit pile you never knew existed when the bathtub generals at the "Pentagram" gives it the "green" to escalate using your asses to be disappeared like all the Blackwater folks over the last 6 months. 

Just remember that you will be going up against an Army (just like the Germans did) that provided the decisive victories that you enjoyed at their expense with not nearly the costs that they endured in WWII...

I see a "Russian Front" in your future!!!!

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:34 | 5194148 Kirk2NCC1701
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Speaking of carrying on as if Nothing really matters...

[Que song from dead queen]

Is this the real life?  Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide, no escape from this insanity
Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see,
I'm just a poor goy, I need opportunity,
Because I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low,
Any way the trade winds blow doesn't really matter to me, to me

O’ bama just killed a man,
Put a drone above his head, pulled my trigger, now he's dead
O’ bama, his life had just begun, But now you've gone and blown it all away
O’ bama, ooh, you say you didn't mean to make him die,

If I'm not back at NSA this time tomorrow,

You carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters

Too late, my time has come,
Sends shivers down my spine, body's aching all the time
Goodbye, everybody, I've got to go, Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
O’ bama, ooh, I don't want to die, I sometimes wish you'd never been born at all

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can drone me and leave me to die
Oh shady, can't do this to me, shady,
You just gotta get you out, just gotta get you right outta here

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:51 | 5194243 BlindMonkey
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Solid work bro. Sad too. I hate what we have become. It would
be so much better with honest money and trade. Nope. Have to have that war and domination to go with it.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:43 | 5193932 Idaho potato head
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Cuntsler is and always has been a Zionist apologist, just visit his "hate" list he has posted on his site.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5193950 sylviasays
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"Wrong. The rockets were fired in response to airstrikes in Gaza which followed kidnappings in the West Bank."

Wrong.  Hamas has continuously fired thousands of rockets at Israeli communities along the Gaza border throughout the last decade. The latest war began after three Israeli teens were killed in the West Bank by Hamas operatives in June, prompting Israel to arrest hundreds of Hamas members there. Hamas rocket fire from Gaza on Israeli cities then escalated and Israel launched a massive air and later ground campaign in response. 

http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-hamas-caused-prolonged-war-1424...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119244/2014-gaza-conflict-part-hamas-...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:53 | 5193979 Xibalba
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WRONG!  Actually Cain Killed Abel.  That's where it started.  

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:33 | 5194166 CH1
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Exactly! You can trace it back forever, and it doesn't even matter.

These idiots (and the ZeroHedge Nazi troop) are simply obsessed with the 'other,' and will see their evil everywhere, and at all times.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:52 | 5194253 Herd Redirectio...
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Interesting fact, Cain is mentioned as being the first farmer.

Abel was a herder.

I guess somebody was unhappy about pasture being plowed up, and that they weren't allowed to graze freely as in the past!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:06 | 5194333 swmnguy
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So...it was all just the Johnson County Range War, but fewer people and no guns?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:58 | 5194000 The Phallic Crusader
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Wrong.  Read the link provided. 

You seem to think that Hamas has fired rockets for no reason and poor Israel has merely "defended itself" by blowing up schools and hospitals.

 

But if you assume Israel is always the good guy - aren't you just a zionist troll, and immune to any contrary evidence?

 

The Truth About Cease-fire Violations Between Israel and Gaza

 

You bet you are.

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:32 | 5194157 sylviasays
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Wrong.  Read the link provided. 

But if you assume Hamas terrorists are always the good guys - aren't you just a Islamo-Nazi troll, and immune to any contrary evidence?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hamas-tactic-require-isra_...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:49 | 5193958 The Phallic Crusader
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Why 5 junks - for telling the truth about how a recent "war" got started?  For calling out a guy for misrepresenting how the violence started in an article that claimed to be all about the fragility of truth?

 

Rocket fire from Gaza followed multiple air strikes on Gaza after the kidnappings/murder of 3 Israelis which, it seems, a sort of splinter group of Hamas may have committed. 

 

Those are the facts.   Jesus Christ -this shit just happened weeks ago!

 

Facts are stubborn things...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:12 | 5194059 sylviasays
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Yes, facts are stubborn things and the terrorist Islamic group Hamas has continuously fired rockets at Israel. 

The Phallic Crusader should put her Burka back on and follow her Muslim master's commands before he beats her. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:26 | 5194132 sylviasays
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What does Duffy wear: a hijab, a niqab or a burka?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24118241

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:27 | 5194140 Duffy
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Get some new material. lol.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:11 | 5194367 sylviasays
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Duffy needs new material to make herself a burka to please her Muslim master before he beats her!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:18 | 5194409 Variance Doc
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If you chopped your head off, you couldn't get any dumber.

STFU.

@Duffy - Well done sir!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:30 | 5194432 sylviasays
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If you chopped your burka covered head off, you couldn't get any dumber.

STFU.

@Duffy - done like the Islamo-Nazi that you are!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 18:14 | 5195451 r0mulus
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sylviasays, you were in a debate with duffy over facts. you were the first one not to reference logical arguments and instead resorted to ad hominem and misdirection. you lost.

 

3 teens murdered by men not officially connected to Hamas.
Israel enacts collective punishment on gaza, imprisoning hundreds.
Hamas then retaliates for the collective punishment.
Israel starts airstrikes and thus the Gaza War.

"The two Palestinian men, Israel’s prime suspects...“They are familiar with Hamas, everybody knows they support Hamas, but I can’t say they are officially part of the Hamas military wing,” said Shlomi Eldar, whose 2011 book, “Getting to Know Hamas,” includes material about members of the Qawasmeh family carrying out 13 suicide bombings in the second Palestinian intifada. “I’m sure they didn’t get any green light from the leadership of Hamas, they just thought it was the right time to act.”...

...A day after the grisly discovery of the teenagers’ bodies buried under rocks in an open field, Israeli security forces turned their full attention Tuesday to searching for the suspects, who relatives and neighbors said have not been seen since the abduction. As Israel’s cabinet and the Palestinian leadership met late into Tuesday night to consider response to the killings, militants in the Gaza Strip once again lobbed rockets toward Israel, continuing an escalation in which Israel pummeled a Hamas compound in southern Gaza with 34 bombs in the early morning."

As you can see, the timeline of events is even covered by the NYTimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/02/world/middleeast/details-emerge-in-dea...

Now where is your logical response to this debate in which you prove that you are not a paid shill or a robot?
If you resort to an ad-hominem attack, you immediately lose.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 20:53 | 5195891 sylviasays
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No r0mulus, it is you who is lost. I was in a debate with The Phallic Crusader until you and your Islamo-Nazi girlfriend Duffy butted in to defend your Hamas terrorists.

Your timeline is completely fictional.  Here's the reality:

3 Jewish teens were brutally murdered by men who were connected to Hamas.

Israel arrests a few Hamas terrorists who were connected to the crime.

Hamas then retaliates by launching rockets into Israel and thus starts the Gaza War

In defense, Israel starts airstrikes on Hamas terrorist targets.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/senior-hamas-official-says-group-abducted-israeli-...

http://rt.com/news/181940-hamas-israel-kidnapping-teenagers/

http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian-leader-hamas-caused-prolonged-war-1424...

 

 

 


 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 15:43 | 5194801 midtowng
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Plus, the pictures of the Ferguson cop with the broken eye socket wasn't the cop that shot down Michael Brown.

Kunstler is pretty sloppy here.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 20:42 | 5195919 sylviasays
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However, there are pictures of the 6'4" and 292 pound Michael Brown attacking the small store clerk in the Ferguson convenience store. 

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-susp...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 17:21 | 5195225 oudinot
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Phallic: Kunstler wrote  that phrase, I am sure, 'tongue in cheek'............

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:25 | 5193862 The Phallic Crusader
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Excellent Raimondo:  Corruption Is the Price of Empire

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:28 | 5193876 Carpenter1
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Consequences, ah yes, I recall the theory well. Something to do with actions leading to reactions, yes, it was a quaint notion decades ago posited by well intentioned folk.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:29 | 5193881 Armed Resistance
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The old get old and the young gets stronger
May take a week and it may take longer
They got the guns but we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah, we're takin' over, come on!

Your ballroom days are over, baby
Night is drawing near
Shadows of the evening
Crawl across the years

You walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
Trying to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful of dimes
Gonna' make it, baby, in our prime

 



Read more: The Doors - Five To One Lyrics | MetroLyrics 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:30 | 5193884 ebworthen
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"The world has gone mad today and good's bad today
And black's white today and day's night today
When most guys today that women prize today
Are just silly gigolos."

"Anything Goes", Frank Sinatra:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbxDiRlBRGc

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:08 | 5194044 Milestones
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EB--One of Cole POrter's best--spot on post. Sonta says it all!!         Milestones

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:59 | 5194300 spekulatn
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Well done.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:30 | 5193887 JohnFrodo
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The black mesa is not the answer no matter what you saw at burning man!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:33 | 5193895 vegas
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Anything happen in the last 7 months while I've been on vacation? Anybody that voted for or listens to anything President Goebbels says has to have a very big "memory hole".

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:32 | 5193896 mr1963
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Ferguson is not over, it's a "pause." October 15 is when the shit hits the fan...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5193956 Shizzmoney
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Right, wait until the cop is found non guilty (because he will be, no matter what you think he did or how you feel).  

The Market is all that matters now.  Which is why the Fed knows it must do as much as possible to keep it going higher and higher.  

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5193957 random999
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for us non US people, whats happening 15th?

 

It feels like USA and Europe both have a lot in common with the Iraq Mosul dam.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:36 | 5193905 JustObserving
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Let's see the Gaza casaulty figures:

Gaza's health ministry reported Monday that 2,016 have been killed and 10,196 wounded since the conflict began on July 8, according to Agence France-Presse.

 

Sixty-seven Israelis have been killed, the majority soldiers, according to The Associated Press.


The high death toll and large number of Palestinian civilian casualties, which include 541 children and 240 women, has placed the Obama administration in a difficult spot

http://thehill.com/policy/international/215390-gaza-deaths-top-2000-as-c...

Yes, anything goes if you are poor and  politically powerless. 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:55 | 5193989 sylviasays
Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:03 | 5194020 JR
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Then you should kill every one of those Palestinians, shouldn't you and, as many in Israel say (especially the women), target the children because those "snakes" will grow up to be opponents of Israel.

As the late Joan Rivers said: “They were told to get out. They didn’t get out. You don’t get out, you are an idiot. At least the ones that were killed were the ones with low IQs.”

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:20 | 5194102 sylviasays
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No doubt JR would put on her Burka and follow her Hamas masters to kill every one of those Israelis?  Maybe JR has a suicide vest under her Burka ready to kill for Allah? 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:08 | 5194342 Herd Redirectio...
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So to kill Hamas w.o killing civilians is not worth the effort?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:14 | 5194389 sylviasays
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So Hamas terrorists sending rockets into Israel w.o killing civilians is not worth the effort?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:30 | 5194476 Flocking swans
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Attn. zionist shill: "jr" was also a zionist shill.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:05 | 5194321 Estrella
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JustObserving,

 

Remind me, if you will, how many millions of Chinese and Koreans died in the Korea "Police Action" and how many thousands of US troops? Some fights are not fair.


Mon, 09/08/2014 - 20:46 | 5195935 sylviasays
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Remind me, if you will, how many millions of Chinese who were murdered by Mao and his communist party thugs? 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 15:14 | 5194670 rickster
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I know the POOR PALofyourstinians! They are in the middle because their own Arab Nations don't and won't take them back after they decided to leave their Arab Nations to begin with-POOR POOR PAL's of yoursTINIANS! Gimme a damn break!! Know history and you'll know the TRUTH as it seems to elude quite a few on here

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:35 | 5193908 rejected
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When you keep slinging sh!t on a wall it's hard to remember where the first hit.

Articles like this are perfect for throwing in a few well placed shall we say words of little value or truth and great for testing your prowess for determining BS from ... BS. :) 

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:37 | 5193914 Jayda1850
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When everyone is working their hands to the bone just trying to survive and feed themselves, it is kind of hard for people's attention to continue to focus on any of these things. TPTB have made it so hard just to get by that self preservation becomes the only thing most can contemplate. Who cares about world events when you're fighting just to live and provide for your family.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:37 | 5193916 JR
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Something happened in the Gaza recently, didn’t it. Hamas fired rocket barrages into Israel and Israel answered with very aggressive action to stop the rockets... -- James H. Kunstler

The description from you as to what happened in Gaza is not what happened. What happened is Israel is expanding, expanding, expanding. And that requires bulldozing, stealing land and slaughtering men, women and children.

If Israel’s “right to exist” means that America must follow them to Hell and hundreds of babies and children must die, then you need to get a handle on the way you report the news. The Israelis are hands down bloodthirsty, greedy monsters. and I wouldn’t think you would want to be on their side.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:06 | 5194036 sylviasays
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"The description from you as to what happened in Gaza is not what happened. What happened is Israel is expanding, expanding, expanding. And that requires bulldozing, stealing land and slaughtering men, women and children."

WRONG! What is happening is that Islamic extremism is expanding, expanding, expanding. And that requires bulldozing, stealing land and slaughtering all indfidels who don't believe as they do.

So JR put your Burka on and follow your Muslim master. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:15 | 5194066 Duffy
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bulldozing and stealing land is what Israel is doing, of course.

Your trolling, so far, is absolutely mediocre. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:32 | 5194108 sylviasays
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bulldozing and stealing land while eliminating all infidels is what Islamo-Nazi's are doing, of course.

Your trolling, so far, is absolutely mediocre. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:26 | 5194130 detached.amusement
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why do you think they say preppers are terrorists

 

.gov fucks you enough until you've had it and decide to do something about it...

 

its easier to beat diebold than a standing army

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:32 | 5194162 JR
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We’re talking about Gaza here. And Gaza is getting bigger and bigger and expanding and Israel is getting squeezed into less and less real estate… Oh, wait. It’s the opposite.

So how do you justify the defense of Israel being in reality offense? And to bring in that them-and-us philosophy that all the Muslims are enemies is the stupidity of sheeple power that has created bloody wars throughout history.

A journalist is beheaded so Palestinian children need to be slaughtered in their beds.

As journalist Chris Hedges says regarding Israel’s genocidal plan to ethnically cleanse Palestine, the news media and America’s "academia" have buried that fact that Israeli violence started virtually on day one, when, in 1948 – the infamous year that the Israeli state was forcibly erected on Palestinian land – some 800,000 were driven out of their homeland by Jewish militias.

In short, you spout the mind-numbing propaganda that “always paints Israel as the victim and Palestine as the aggressor.

Mark Anderson warns journalists: Don’t let the truth slip in your reports on the Israeli invasion of Gaza or you’re fired.

Anderson quotes outspoken “dissident” journalist and author Bob Koehler who quoted Israeli Prinme Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as saying: ‘Israel regrets every injury to civilians. I call on the residents of Gaza: Don’t stay there. Hamas wants you to die; we want you to be safe.’

As Koehler observed: "Is it really that easy to sweep away the moral sting of violent action? A captive population is being pummeled with missiles… but [Netanyahu says] ‘we want you to be safe’ and ‘wish we didn’t have to do this.'”

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:48 | 5194217 sylviasays
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Yes, Gaza is getting bigger and bigger and expanding while Israel is getting squeezed into less and less real estate…until Israel and all infidels are completely exterminated by the Islamo-Nazis.  JR will proudly wear her burka then and wash her Muslim master's feet. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:09 | 5194348 Herd Redirectio...
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And up is down, black is white, left is right, good is bad, wrong is right.

Did I miss anything?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:42 | 5193921 Hongcha
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One fine Monday morning the peeps will awaken to a 3% gapdown on the SPY.  The same 3% will occur day after day.  They will be trapped in their 401(k) and unable to offload.  Gasoline will be 6$, $7, $8 at the pump and National Guard units will guard the stations to keep lines orderly. There will be Guard elements at Walmarts and Safeways to stem the tide.

It will happen with lightening speed.  And you will be surprised how quickly people will get used to it.  The US has started its descent to a dark age that will last at least a generation.  Savor what you have now and get ready.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:57 | 5193994 Skateboarder
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It will be an incredible sight, to say the least.

The average American family is not ready to face a supply chain disruption of any sort. Hedge accordingly.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:41 | 5193928 p00k1e
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9-11-14 is when nine of the eleven jets ISIS took reach intended targets in America.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:07 | 5194040 whirling tword ...
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not on our mainland.... maybe some remote embassies, however...

They don't need to hit us with airplanes... they can walk right into our shopping malls or our train stations or anywhere else really.... just need a few semi-auto weapons and coordinate their attacks... that would do just as much damage and, we all know that they're already here.

Can you imagine how much damage 10 of them could do in 5 shopping malls?... or something to the tune of car bombing NCY fed, Dallas fed, SF fed, all at the same time???

They could hit our power stations from a mile away with 50 cals and disable transformers that take a year to build one of.... 

The only way to win is to keep them out of the U.S. and, I'm afraid we're too late for that so.... We sit back and wait and see what they will do.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:09 | 5194048 Eyeroller
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9-11-14 is when ISIS cells in the US launch low-tech Boston Bomber style attacks on soft targets.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:48 | 5194226 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yes, and pay attention to their battlecry: "Elohim gadol!  Elohim gadol!"

p.s. To the ZHer who posted yesterday "Depends on how you define ISIS", I say: "I define them by this battlecry"

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:41 | 5193929 valley chick
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BS.  Most people have become too dumbed down and dependent to give a shit. They are too busy taking selfies and posting on fukfacebook and watching tv.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:53 | 5193975 Skateboarder
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Amazing, how in the course of a few short years, it becomes outside the norm for a human being to not participate in this asshattery.

Mama's lullaby? There's an app for that (cuz mama don't know no lullaby no mo).

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:54 | 5193986 Xibalba
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Fluoride helps.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 23:45 | 5196386 StychoKiller
Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:17 | 5194085 Eyeroller
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Even the dumbest of the dumb react violently when they take a big hit to the wallet or their way of life is threatened. 

No one cared much about Obamacare and fell for the "keep your doctor and get lots of free stuff" spin.  It was only when the sticker shock of higher premiums and crashing websites and the reality of not getting to keep their doctor sinking in that people got pissed.

No one cares much what the Fed is doing.  Their 401Ks are growing just fine, thank you very much.  Only when they see them fall by 20% or completely wiped out will there be an outcry.

No one remembers the sheer panic and terror experienced in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11th.  I remember driving home from work that day and seeing 50 cars in line for gas.  I couldn't get onto the internet for nearly a week.  There were reports every day of suspicious characters at train and bus stations. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 15:20 | 5194698 valley chick
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Got lead?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5193952 PT
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Aren't we due for another bankster ...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:52 | 5193980 PT
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I mean, the shitgum was getting very bored and restless. Just the other day I saw it push a nail gun down an embankment, and a Mercedes Benz jumped off a building and skidded into a tree and exploded into a fireball that sent it's engine through its brakes. Something like that.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5193954 RMolineaux
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Kunstler's views on the Gaza events are more than a little lopsided.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:58 | 5194290 NotApplicable
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Kunstler's views on pretty much EVERYTHING are extremely lopsided. As I always like to point out, he admitted voting for Obummer... TWICE!

Why the Tylers post his crap is beyond me. He is nothing but a typical immature statist, waiting for his political saviour to arrive and save everything.

In other words, just another Hopium addict.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:55 | 5193967 q99x2
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I don't think it is changing.

Filmmaker dresses as 'Ebola-infected ISIS terrorist' to sneak across Lake Erie from Canada to Cleveland and into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without being challenged once--MailOnline

Loyd Blankfein is going to kill us all.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:20 | 5194424 swmnguy
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I'll grant you, James O'Keefe is hilarious.  Whenever I hear of one of his stunts, I spare no efforts to find it, and when I do, I laugh and laugh.  And when eventually, inevitably, somebody just pops a cap into his nasty, entitled, condescending, self-absorbed, conceited ass, I'll laugh even harder.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:51 | 5193971 The Phallic Crusader
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I'm pretty pissed about getting junked for correcting what can only have been deliberate error.  I mean - the author here has the audacity to lie about something in a story about "the truth"?

 

Fuck you.

 

 

So - you know what else got memory-holed?

The Israeli spy ring{s} discovered around the time of 9/11.

 

http://www.antiwar.com/israeli-files.php

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:59 | 5194011 Al Huxley
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Team Israel is pretty aggressive in making sure their version of the truth is the dominant storyline.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:53 | 5194256 sylviasays
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Team Hamas and Islamo-Nazis are pretty aggressive in making sure their version of the truth is the dominant storyline.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:18 | 5194412 Al Huxley
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Fuck off you numb cunt.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 20:47 | 5195937 sylviasays
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Fuck off you drug adled numb cunt for Hamas. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:07 | 5194047 JR
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It comes down to the two sides: those who are paid to support Israeli aggression or threatened with their livelihood against those with integrity.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:54 | 5194261 sylviasays
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It comes down to the two sides: those who are paid to support Hamas and Islamo-Nazi aggression or threatened with their livelihood against those with integrity.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 12:57 | 5193998 JR
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Something happened in the Gaza recently, didn’t it.

Yes, Jim, it did. And to get the real feeling of what happened and is happening in Gaza, one needs to imagine an amateur rocket with 5 lbs of explosives landing harmlessly in an open field and then compare direct-hit missiles destroying Gaza apartment buildings and homes and people and miles and miles of infrastructure (targeting technology courtesy US software engineers).

See the video:

Gaza Apartment Block Destroyed By ‘Silent’ Israeli Missile: Video Captures Entire Bombing Sequence

http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/gaza-apartment-block-destroyed-by-silent-israeli-missile-video-captures-entire-bombing-sequence/

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:15 | 5194075 WAMO556
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Didn't the Isreakis also just steal 1000 acres if Gaza land?

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:00 | 5194276 sylviasays
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Didn't the Islamo-Nazis also murder thousands of infidels (aka Christians, Jews, and other Muslims who didn't go along with being forced to convert??)

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 15:07 | 5194643 drexlraw
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are you referring to the mossad led isis? troll on, douche..

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 20:50 | 5195947 sylviasays
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No, I was referring to the Islamo-Nazi led ISIS. so put on your burka and troll on, Islamo-Nazi douche..

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:03 | 5194028 Scoobywan
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All this just plays into the constant "always need content" meme thats been building for awhile.

Its why all my buddies wives feel the need to post nonstop bullshit to thier facebooks pages, why now people think its cool to pour ice on themselves, get sprayed with colored chalk and pay to run somewhere, or any other stupid event that solves nothing, teaches nothing, and means nothing. They need content, shit to feed thier narcisism and thier sycophantic "friends".

New organizations now are the same way, constantly replacing important shit with fresh shit.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:16 | 5194077 Skateboarder
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Once upon a time, people wrote poems and songs, told stories, played and celebrated real sound and music with each other.

Keep the olden ways alive - see to it that there is meaning in your word, your action, your song. Lead the way, because not many will.

Doing something to see the end result as futile - that is the very course of experiment and wisdom. Chasing futility...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:04 | 5194032 silentboom
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Don't forget the "Government supported Russian hackers" that supposedly broke into JPMorgan a few weeks ago, except that they say they are still looking into it now and FS-ISAC says there is currently nothing out of the ordinary going on as far as bank hacking. Even JPMorgan themselves state "Patricia Wexler, a spokeswoman for JPMorgan, said that fraud levels at the bank were not elevated and declined to comment further on the investigation"

Looks Phishy to me.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:06 | 5194035 Colonel Klink
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/07/Gang-of-Black-Teens-C...

Where's our scumbag in Chief and Attorney Placeholder to condemn this?  Where's Jesse Jackass and Al Sharptongue to protest these acts?  Gigantic hypocrits one and all.  Racebaiters in pure form.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:18 | 5194041 RaceToTheBottom
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I am sure that the contents of the Black Box will be released as soon as it is processed.

We are very lucky that this time the Ukrainian Separatists we not operating over open oceans like they were with the earlier Malaysian Air flight.

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:08 | 5194049 gdiamond22
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Why the fuck does ZH post this guys crap? This cocksucker voted for Obama TWICE.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:19 | 5194061 Duffy
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If few will remember that the whole thing started with rockets, it is because the whole thing did not start with rockets, but with Israeli forces running amock in the West Bank after 3 kidnappings Israel probably arranged to have done in order to provide a pretext to kill a couple thousand Palestinians and destroy thousands of schools, hospitals, homes, and other infrastructure in Gaza... 

 

After all, you can't have a Greater Israel if part of it is still occupied by the indigenous people of Israel/Palestine, eh?

Hence the Oded Yinon/PNAC line of plans...

It's quite simple - most of what Israel and its army of Ziobots do amounts to claiming to be the victim/acting on the defensive, and crying antisemite, while manifestly continuing the Zionist/Jewish Supremacist scheme of colonialism, land grabbing, apartheid, and warmongering.

 

Blatant, shameless lying is simply part of Zionism, as is racism, and disproportionate Jewish money, power and influence (even though most Jews are "liberal" - at least when it doesn't involve Israel) prevents the US from forcing Israel to end its occupation and settlement building. There is no question at all that Israel seeks to expand - and that will mean finding or creating excuses to "defend" itself from Lebanon, sinair, Syria and beyond.

 

 

Hence for Cuntler - a Zionist gatekeeper, presenting the inconvenient truth about Russia/Ukraine, is merely a means of packaging with it the lie of Israel "defending itself" from rockets that killed 3 people as the IDF killed well over 2,000, destroying thousands upon thousands of homes, schools and other civilian sites - of course, there was a Hamas rocket in all of them!  Not that Israel provided any proof - it would be "anti-Semitic" not to take the Jewish State at its word - they'd never lie to "the nations" now, would they?

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:58 | 5194292 sylviasays
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Duffy and her Islamo-Nazis are out trolling today defending their Hamas terrorist masters...

http://www.charismamag.com/blogs/standing-with-israel/21202-chances-for-...

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:16 | 5194073 insanelysane
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He forgot when Syria was gassing the rebels and there was irrefuteable evidence of them "crossing" the line.

Kids on the border were all the rage months ago.

Girls in Africa being kidnapped were all the rage on twitter.

 

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:19 | 5194087 orangegeek
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"Living In An Age Of Anything Goes And Nothing Matters ..."

 

This is the best one line summation I have come across.

 

Good one Tyler!!!

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:26 | 5194134 RaceToTheBottom
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Got to go back to the time when we put the original causes of the financial crash in jail.......

Oh, thats right, we have done nothing about that....

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 13:35 | 5194176 limacon
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Luckily information holes are part of the Small World Model . Full information load would crush any organism with a nervous system . 

The degree of forgetfulness required can be exactly calculated . See

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/01/six-degrees-of-separation-derivati...

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 14:15 | 5194399 lasvegaspersona
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We simply do not have an effective media.

Drudge predicted that everyman could be a reporter in the future. He forgot to mention that this everyman might become our only source of news.

On top of that we now have censors. If google doesn't like it YouTube won't post it. If Facebook doesn't like it it disappears. If we see it on RT we have to wonder if it just propaganda. If we see it on CNN we know it is propaganda and we don't know if it is true. It does not help that every one close to the controls has spent the night in the White House getting the special buddy treatment.

Oh for the days of Walter Chronkite when we could just listen to him and know what to think.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 15:56 | 5194864 Herd Redirectio...
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Google's "Don't be Evil" philosophy went right out the window, as soon as a (lucrative?) opportunity to 'do evil' presented itself.  Provide censorship services to the tyrannical 'government'.

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 16:19 | 5194977 Ohne Deckung
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Anything goes and nothing matters - haha - what's about the digits in wich anything aswell as nothing have to be presented in these days.

I repeat the offer the "Age of Expedience" is supplying: Give me the control over the digits and forget the rest. 

Where attention is there is life, where no attention is there isn't.

You may term it memory-hole.

 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 16:39 | 5195049 esum
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gots mah skittles and wodamellin juice robitussen fixin mah purple drank lean mah fried chikin mah bamaphone and mah reeboks mah baby momma and 8 kids and lots of free shit snap ebt  bamacare...... set for life ...livin large

NOW WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN ???????

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 16:43 | 5195068 Oreilly
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Stories written and forgotten, the guilty go unpunished, no one seems to care ....

And when was it ever any different?  Every episode in modern history has the tell-tale re-write by those in the know 50 years after the event that shows how we knew nothing about what really went on and everyone involved had a good laugh on their way to the bank.  It just seems different now that there's 365/24/7 reporting, but that reporting never benefits from putting issues to bed.  If they did, what would they report on next week/month/year?  And there is something to be said about keeping the ball in play ... never let up on the relentless stream of issues and people soon stop caring about anything.

As a good example, look at this article.  Kunstler makes some low-brow point about nothing getting solved, and it evolves into a Zionist/Islamofascist rant fest in the comments.  The actual point of the article is missing from 2/3rds of the comments here.  If you're a normal Joe who reads comments for a laugh or two and maybe because there used to be a few additional points from a well-informed readership you give up because it's obvious that the trolls are slamming ZH articles in order to kill any such give and take.  Shame, it used to be different, at least for the first year or so. 

Mon, 09/08/2014 - 18:05 | 5195414 indio007
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It's been a bad month in propaganda. 

What I want to know is ....

Where's Jon Corazine?

 

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