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America's Demographic Crash In One Chart

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While the Japanification of markets has been a much-discussed topic in recent years, the two nations share another disturbing trend. In 2012, the land of the rising sun saw sales of adult diapers exceed those of baby diapers... and as the following chart from The Wall Street Journal shows, that trend is rapidly occurring in the land of the free...

 

 

As The Wall Street Journal notes,

Procter & Gamble Co. is getting back into a business it exited more than a decade ago—making products for adults suffering from incontinence—as it takes aim at the growing ranks of aging Americans.

 

Births peaked in the U.S. at 4.32 million in 2007 and declined for five years before leveling off recently. Some 3.96 million babies were born in the U.S. last year, according to preliminary data from the Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention.

 

The number was up slightly from 2012, but the country’s fertility rate dropped to a record low of 62.9 births per 1,000 women of childbearing age.

 

Meanwhile, over 3 million Americans are now turning 65 each year, according to the Pew Research Center.”

 

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Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:48 | 5199397 knukles
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I pooped today!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:51 | 5199406 Pooper Popper
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Good job man,I know youve been working on it.

Im hoping for tomorrow ,,,,chili tonight!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:54 | 5199417 Dr. Richard Head
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A paradigm shift on poop catching cometh our way. Seems like today's generation will just finishing putting away the diapers for the babies to trade in for their parents. Shitty time. http://instagram.com/p/svY3OCjwUZ/

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:57 | 5199435 clooney_art
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I am an American adult and I wear diapers because I am gosh darn lazy to wipe my arse. It's a major chore.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:16 | 5199503 Ratscam
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look at the language
Some 3.96 million babies were born, according to the Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention.
Why not Centers of demographic studies?
Since when is a baby in the department of diseases and prevention?
Greets, Aldous Huxley

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:18 | 5199510 Publicus
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Ebola kills mainly those above 18, that will fix the demographics.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:45 | 5199606 max2205
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Got that warm feeling?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:49 | 5199619 Pool Shark
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What does a busload of senior citizens smell like?

Depends...

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:02 | 5199672 Afaerl
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UK policy is to get rid of incontinence altogether! Get doing those pelvic floor exercises buddies...it'll help you when the SHTF...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:20 | 5199731 I am more equal...
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Not so troubling to me.  Adults with diapers die sooner rather than later.  Additionally, with Death Panels they are likely to die much sooner than they want or expect. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:08 | 5199918 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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This is one of those graphs that seems irrelevant (or hilarious) if you're a clueless ostrich, but sums up the whole situation perfectly if you're aware how fucked humanity is.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:06 | 5200183 Pinche Caballero
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:37 | 5200523 erg
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Global warming means more ice flows. Problem solved for the infirmed and addled.

Dignify their final moments by pushing their icy refuge into the mist.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:07 | 5200716 Elvis the Pelvis
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True.  We've got a ton of oldsters.  But all this points to deflation.  Inflationists are full of shit.  Gold is going nowhere.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:35 | 5200760 jeff montanye
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old people with claims on production but without aiding in the production now or in the future would seem inflationary to me.  perhaps i missed your point however.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:46 | 5200837 fervent in spirit
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The point was ... he is just trolling to pimp his blog.

It's a good point to miss.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:37 | 5200977 McCormick No. 9
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You're wrong. Gold is going somewere.

D

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Deflationary, Bitchezz!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:45 | 5200516 RaceToTheBottom
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One of the outcomes, planned or not, is that it reduces the HATE and DISCUST people should have toward WS Banksters.

 

RELISH in the HATE

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:07 | 5200167 Kirk2NCC1701
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When you're Soilent Brown, it's time for Soylent Green.

Old Eskimos made themselves Bear-bait (on an ice float) when they became an excessive burden to their family. 

These days, in the USSA, you become a burden to the National Family, cause the sad truth is that your own family/community would not go to the extremes of life-and-cost extension that an entire nation can shoulder.  And even there we are discovering, there are 'limits'.  Unless your currency is the GRC, in which case you make the entire planet share your burden with your fiat.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:13 | 5200626 Skateboarder
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Somwhere along the 1900s, a group of people were sold this lie that you can and should extend your lifespan beyond its natural course, at any cost to the family or society.

Desire to live forever is crazy.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:38 | 5200767 jeff montanye
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this seems particularly apt in a critique of healthcare where some very large percentage of the money is spent extending life a few months, often in a very painful or comatose state.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:54 | 5201106 Advoc8tr
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freedom = slavery

torture = care

Even if you don't want it you have no choice once they get you to a hospital.  Forcibly reduced to being remembered as a tube-filled, bed shitting vegetable rotting in a hospital bed for the last 6 -12 of your existence.

We can't even blow our own brains out over here ... no gun handy for most people.

That's too messy and inconsiderate for the family anyway ... I think I'll scout out a heroin dealer when I feel the time is nigh ... always wanted to try it just once.  MOAR is definitely better in such circumstances.

In FreeDumbDownUnder they drag you into court and destroy the doctors career if one helps you source phenobarbital from abroad for your terminally ill spouse who is begging you to not to make them go through the inevitable indignant last stage.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 02:47 | 5200876 nailgunnin4you
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Desire to live forever is crazy.

Amen broseph. If I make it to 60 I'm taking up heroin and don't plan on hitting 65.  
Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:59 | 5201115 SilverDOG
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Forever is a myth.

Living healthfully past 65 is easy.

It is not the age which kills one.

Often it is lack of value.

Value of oneself through; food, exercise, mental stimulation, social interaction and down time.

I am not even close to 60, intend upon actively living beyond as a contributor to society.

Die... die when heart just says "game over" or if unable to care for self; motorcycle high speed water entry.

I am talking 175mph+ have been there many times and shall again, it is delicious.

Water entry is just to keep mess to minimum. 

On road and track; it is a mess.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:40 | 5201097 duo
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If each person is deserving medical care that costs more than they ever made in their lifetime, then each new citizen has a negative valueto society.  Think about that.

I guess an exception could be made for cannon fodder in our resource wars.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:58 | 5200141 tawdzilla
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I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you still need to wipe your ass if you shit your diapers.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:26 | 5200482 The Big Ching-aso
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One of the great things about getting old is you can crap your pants with aplomb and no one says shit about it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:41 | 5200540 willwork4food
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Unless a cutie grabs your tooch...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:51 | 5201798 zuuma
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"Unless a cutie grabs your tooch"

It would seem that you haven't spent much time ina nursing home, lately.

If you vist one, you'll soon discover that it is not staffed by "cuties". Instead, your junk will likely be yanked & scrubbed by a skinny, bald Somali immigrant . Among other things, Somalia is known as one of Africa's "dentist-free" nations.

If your alzheimer's addled brain will allow, you might ask him how often he brushes that tooth.

Don't get me wrong. He'll do a great job & stop by often. Just not a cutie.

And that's at the EXPENSIVE, nice nursing homes that don't smell bad & have decent food..

The Gubbermint owned/ run places (title 19) will have 100% morbid-obese, ebonic-speaking, obama voters grabbing your junk & shining your dupah. PLUS, they won't see you very often and it will always smell bad in your room.

They will be more difficult to understand than the Somali. the Good news is, if you like 'em 5' 2" and 325# -- you'll have some cuties there.

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 02:47 | 5200879 nailgunnin4you
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I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you still need to wipe your ass if you shit your diapers.

yeah if you're high maintenance
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:56 | 5199657 Ben Ghazi
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When did I eat that corn?

 

Saturday, Sunday maybe?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:49 | 5199847 pickupthatcan
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I went to the Doctor last week and he told me that he needed a stool sample, a semen sample and a urine sample.  Hell, I just gave him my shorts.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:17 | 5200224 Escrava Isaura
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So let me guess.....

They gave you free shorts of Obamacare.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:39 | 5200278 AssFire
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Escrava, Lots of other sites would love to have you.....just not us. Go> and for the love of GOD- DON'T look BACK!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:43 | 5200550 gtb
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Lots?  Name one...if you can.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:02 | 5200596 nope-1004
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It's a gov't troll, sitting in a cubicle, with the flourescents blaring down on it.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:02 | 5200162 Kirk2NCC1701
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If you're crapping your pants, you either need a new Anal Sphincter & Controlled module, or you may due for a Maker Recall.

Nothing lasts forever, nor should it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:43 | 5200548 willwork4food
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or you are just drinking too much.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:34 | 5200671 Proofreder
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Exercise; walk 3 miles a day

good for the old sphincter ...

don't sit at the Hedge for more than 20 minutes, then GTFU and walk.

We as a nation sit far too much.  Bad for the back, from the neck on down.

If you get my drift.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:38 | 5200306 booboo
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Usually mid morning I'm in the field and inveriably the gates of hell begin to shake, I don't have time to sit around in the morning and wait for the morning constitution so off I go, gravity takes hold, then the lighting flash and the thunder. I'm hunched over trying with all the grit I can muster, teeth clenched like a man hit with 10,000 volts, sweat beads on my forehead and I pray silently "God, if you get me through this without shitting my pants I will be good for the rest of the day, Amen

Once in a while the O ring slips and my wife will remark that I need to ease up on the coffee or pray harder as she holds up a pair of tight whites with shtain.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:37 | 5200674 Proofreder
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Yellow in the front

Brown at the back ...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:11 | 5200438 OpTwoMistic
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50 million abortions in us since it became "legal". Those were consumers and voters.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:49 | 5200572 willwork4food
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So what happened to those 50 million? Where they born again?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:54 | 5199423 kaiserhoff
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At least we're on the right side of the grass, knuks;)

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:32 | 5199563 knukles
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Indeed we are, Kaiser, indeed we are.
And it is Glorious!
I'm fond of saying "On the right side of the divot and below the hole"

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:49 | 5199628 yrbmegr
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It depends.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 03:24 | 5200904 Volaille de Bresse
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Yeah everybody talks about Piketti's book but there's ONE effort by a French author that should have been given a broader promotion : it's Emmanuel Todd's "After the Empire".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_the_Empire

"Todd examines the fundamental weaknesses of the US to conclude that, contrary to American conventional wisdom, America is fast losing its grip on the world stage in economic, military and ideological terms"

And he bases his analysis on demographic stats. Huh Huh...

PS : this book was written in **2002** when Murica was at the height of its power (or so it thought).

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:57 | 5199438 zorba THE GREEK
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What goes around, comes around.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:38 | 5199590 Omen IV
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This trend is the result of the  epidemic practice of anal sex among this age group

absolutely outrageous social deviants!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:23 | 5200248 Lore
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Would be interesting (in a grim way) to see correlation between rates of sodomy in popular culture and incontinence. Also, would be interesting to see correlation between diaper sales and abortion over the last 20 years.  Is the current rate "sustainable?"  Inquiring marketing ghouls want to know...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:22 | 5200467 booboo
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"Would be interesting (in a grim way) to see correlation between rates of sodomy in popular culture and incontinence."

Well, while were at it maybe they could run the stats on sodomy and AIDS or would that be homophobic?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:41 | 5199592 Omen IV
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they need to stop and take up animal husbandry

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:28 | 5199555 GooseShtepping Moron
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Yeak, but mine was bigger.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:05 | 5200180 MeMongo
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He go poo poo in his pants, with a knick knack patty wack give the......well you know!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:09 | 5200192 Iriestx
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Hopefully in the mouth of your congressional represenative.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:20 | 5200239 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"I pooped today!"

Did everything come out alright?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:59 | 5200711 Stuck on Zero
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That chart is good news.  Fewer natural resources being consumed.  Children cost society $500K to raise to adulthood.  Machines provide all the labor now.  The Fed supplies everything else we could possibly want.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 02:28 | 5200867 Freddie
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F the WSJ.  This is more of their open border amnesty BS and lies.  Murdoch is for amnesty and gun control and conservatives foolishly think Fox News is their hero.   All of TV is for the police state with endless lying and propaganda. 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 06:19 | 5201009 GubbermintWorker
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I woke up this morning and did my regular routine....pooped.....took a piss.....and then got up out of bed.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 09:31 | 5201432 yogibear
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It's iPooped for the Apple people.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:30 | 5202234 detached.amusement
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This means that we need to implement the Piss Bucket Challenge, to bring awareness to urinary incontinence

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:51 | 5199408 papaswamp
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Japan here we come!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:52 | 5199410 NotApplicable
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No shit?!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:59 | 5199439 papaswamp
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Uso tsuke

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:01 | 5199443 ShrNfr
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If that had to explained, you qualify to be a member of our government.

No fair, you tsuke your comment back after I posted my reply.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:58 | 5199440 ShrNfr
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And ain't that a pisser??

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:00 | 5199449 Hephaestus
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Ebola fomula 2^(x/21). If something doesnt change soon all our problems will be solved in only 320 more days  +/- 90

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:07 | 5200610 Kirk2NCC1701
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I call Bullshit.  Tired of the Gov+MSM trying to keep me in Perma-fear.

Lemme know when it hits DC, NY or LA -- hard.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:36 | 5202262 Monty Burns
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As I keep saying, we'll look back in six months time and ask 'what was all that fever thing they were getting excited about?'.  I've heard too many end of the world stories by now.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:52 | 5199414 kaiserhoff
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Look at the births to married couples, where at least one has a full time, private sector job.

That's the real demographic tragedy.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:57 | 5199430 Caviar Emptor
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Of those, the % not addicted to a chemical substance is dropping too

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:32 | 5199565 knukles
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Is that good or bad?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:55 | 5199425 i_call_you_my_base
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Graduation cards should include the phrase "adult diapers" in them.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:56 | 5199426 Grande Tetons
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Imagine the couples are of the opposite sex! That is retro, dude. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:57 | 5199429 CheapBastard
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Eat moar Escobar and you'll poop [and leak] just fine.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:12 | 5201642 Overfed
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Like Pablo? Or Pepe?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:58 | 5199432 ebworthen
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Bullish for Tena "twist" and Depends.

This must be why we are letting the abandoned Latino children stream across the border unfettered.

"Don't miss a step, nothing's missed with a Tena Twist": 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjWZxbJ64A

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:01 | 5199433 bobert727
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oops

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:03 | 5199434 bobert727
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:07 | 5199465 tarabel
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Very poorly constructed article. I take two things out of this misleading jumble:

1) Births 3.96 million per annum, over-65 3 million per annum. That's a pretty healthy spread, or so it appears to me.

2) The chart shows that baby diaper sales are nearly 3.5 times those of adult diapers.

Neither of those statistics cited in the article actually support its premise of imminent Japanification so far as I can tell. China and virtually all of the developed world will be doing the Depending thing long before America feels the urge. 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:48 | 5199625 RockyRacoon
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Party-pooper.  You take all the fun outta the whole thing.   And pooping at parties puts you in the growing demographic.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:04 | 5199899 Totentänzerlied
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USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#mediaview...

Japan: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Japan_sex_by_age_2010...

They're even color-coded to show surpluses. Note that x-axis scales are different.

Japans Total Fertility Rate is hovering around 1.4, USA's was 1.87 as of last year. The drop in Japanese fertility rate explains almost all of the difference between the two graphs.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:08 | 5199466 Rainman
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I hear doublewide walk-in bathtubs are all the rage with the silverheads . How do I get a piece of them stawks ?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:56 | 5200587 willwork4food
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THAT is a good question. I would suggest looking at alternatives like bitcoin investments. You fund those you deem worthy of your coin. Very simple. I believe Seer would agree.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:09 | 5199478 Yen Cross
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    It's pretty hard to find time to procreate when you're working (8) part-time jobs between the (2) of you.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:39 | 5199589 snr-moment
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That was always the plan.  It was called "empowering women" when I was in college, back  in the day.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:13 | 5199488 Duffy
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We need to legalize assisted suicide federally and encourage the bed-ridden 80+ year olds to check out... frankly.

No - no coercion and have needed safeguards, etc. but planned suicide should be more of a "thing"...

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:35 | 5199576 knukles
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You let them have that option (the goobermint) and they'll be filling up the camps with everybody over 60 to gas to death.
No shit

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:37 | 5199584 snr-moment
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B@st@rds are taking up all the day care jobs.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:13 | 5199711 daveO
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See Edward G. Robinson's last film role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOV8mBjHHYg

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:19 | 5199520 MeelionDollerBogus
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Make more babies! Get more marriages and more divorces! Don't you know, if your ex-wife can spend all your money on consumer items, that boosts the economy!
If you're not losing 80% of your money to child support & 2 ex-wives you aren't doing your patriotic duty.
What's that? Too smart for marriage, you say? I say... incomprethinkable!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:20 | 5199525 Laddie
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Paul Ehrlich was Johnny Carson's most frequent guest. He was the Jewish author of the book Population Bomb and he lectured all over the universities and colleges preaching the gospel that whites shouldn't have kids due to population explosion. Well Carson had a HUGE audience and the propaganda worked, white women have about 1.6 children according to last information I read and it was trending down from there.

Now I look around and see Mexican and other Latinas with 4, 5, 6 children, Vietnamese women with, in Cali, one had 17 children, and black women seem to be replenishing and growing their community. They may be 13% of the population they used to be 9% but that is only because the growth due to immigration and immigrant births keeps going, the Asians are the fastest growing race in the USA today, one would have thought the Mexicans but no. And that Asian immigration is largely LEGAL.

What about all the niños coming through the border? Why America will have one of the youngest populations soon, despite some of the 6x underwear gray hair and wrinkles "children" attending school from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador.

Of course another reason America is older is that so many young Whites have been murdered over the last decades, even little babies, last year an illegal Mexican who had shacked up with a single mom in Washington state raped the 1 year old and finished her off. If you think that is RARE, think again.

When a native species is overwhelmed by an invasive species their birthrates go down. This is what happens in nature and that is what happened, IS happening, in America today to those WHO BUILT THE COUNTRY.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:24 | 5199542 Dr Strangemember
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Yeah, ok... and when I die, NONE of this crap will matter at all!  So just live your life and fuck all the rest that you can't control!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:40 | 5199811 Herd Redirectio...
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My advice, start getting along w/ Latinos.

The only people who I truly find impossible to get along with?  Sociopaths. 1-4% of the populace (depending on how widely you interpret the spectrum).  No sociopath has EVER been rehabilitated.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:25 | 5199995 Yes_Questions
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xactly.  the fucking jobs program on streets Wall and K is a disaster.

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:09 | 5200177 Escrava Isaura
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Laddie,

You remind me the last issue on my DEDI list:

 

The 4 elephants in the room: Debt, Energy, Demographics, and Ignorance [DEDI]


Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:40 | 5200316 AssFire
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Escrava, Lots of other sites would love to have you.....just not us. Go> and for the love of GOD- DON'T look BACK!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:57 | 5200136 assistedliving
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oh yeah?  been to Chipotles lately?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z6eVdP6G68

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:36 | 5199571 chistletoe
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those WHO BUILT THE COUNTRY -- are you referring to the rag tag bunch of rogues, thieves and misfits who were cast out of europe for their violence, arrogance and general unfitness, booked passage to the promised land, where they made thousands of treaties with the legal residents and then broke them time and time again, gave them diseases, tricked, robbed and murdered them while raping and pillaging their womenfolk, drove them to reservations and then kept on finding ways to steal the land from them, then finally built museums to put them in and charge tourists big wampum to gawk at the survivors?

 

I just hope you can be clear about this because I really want to understand ....

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:37 | 5199802 Leraconteur
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No matter where you are, your history is the same.

You actually think Europe's history is devoid of this? Asia? Africa? South America?

Did you know the NA Natives were in perpetual tribal conflict, which is why they quickly adapted to horses and then firearms? Came in handy when raiding the neighbours.

Ask yourself why you recalled your post first, rather than other facts which would balance the story. Ask yourself whose agenda your knee-jerk recitation serves, and why they would want you to recall those facts first. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:46 | 5199837 Herd Redirectio...
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Hernan Cortes, whose name (no way in hell his real name, but at least his nickname or title) translates as Courteous (Cortes) Gentle Traveller/Pilgrim (Hernan), brought the WHEEL (plus pulley) to Mexico.

And for that, we remember him as Cortes the Killer (great song, though).

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:54 | 5200583 TheGreatRecovery
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Cortes did not go to Mexico to give Mexicans the wheel.  Cortes went to Mexico to steal the Mexicans' gold, silver, women, and land, and to enslave the Mexicans and their children.  Cortes the Killer is absolutely accurate.  And Cortes did all this with the blessings of the King of Spain and the Pope, both of whom took generous shares.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:31 | 5202239 Monty Burns
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And those peaceful loveable Aztecs. Such great neighbours.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:37 | 5200282 Escrava Isaura
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Leraconteur,

 

I think chistletoe was referring to this book:

                    

The Way We Never Were: American Families And The Nostalgia Trap

 

The Way We Never Were examines two centuries of American family life and shatters a series of myths and half-truths that burden modern families. Placing current family dilemmas in the context of far-reaching economic, political, and demographic changes,… and the division of labor along gender lines,

 

 

Historians and sociologists fight a losing battle against nostalgia and the very human desire to return to a golden age when things were simpler, more wholesome....

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/The-Way-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465090974

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:41 | 5200317 AssFire
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Escrava, Lots of other sites would love to have you.....just not us. Go> and for the love of GOD- DON'T look BACK!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:18 | 5200731 PhilofOz
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Stop repeating yourself like a broken record. Us? You don't speak for me so don't pretend that you do!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:06 | 5201615 snr-moment
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Gotta just LOVE me some revisionist history.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:20 | 5200461 falconflight
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Howard Zinn's history is an effing socialist lie.  Natives were barbaric...yet were they the 'natives' when there's a fair amount of evidence that the Clovis Man from Europe sailed here before those upstart Asiatics shuffled their monkey see monkey do asses over the Bering Straits and ethnically cleansed the Clovis. 1/2 sarc only

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:55 | 5200584 Apply Force
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We're all barbaric in one way or another  - - if not, you'll be dead sooner than you think.  Things tend to go bad slowly, and then all at once.  Good luck!

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:21 | 5200973 Monty Burns
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Irrespective of how you describe them, they were still the people who built America.  You'd be living in a favela or a tepee had it not been for them.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:37 | 5199583 Prince Eugene o...
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Paul Ehrlich has nothing to do with lowered birth rates.

Since 1973 over 55 million American babies in the womb have been killed in abortions.  They were killed for the convenience of the mother.  Those babies never got to have their children, and so on.  Think about it.  Every one of those babies had their own unique DNA.  They were not their mother's body.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:27 | 5199648 Spastica Rex
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To make the math easy, let's imagine that all those babies were born in 1973. Further, let's figure that they were all Mormon girls, and would each have 6 children (all girls) of their own, reproducing at 20 year intervals.

1993: 55 mil * 6 = 330 mil

2013: 330  mil * 6 =  NEARLY 2 BILLION!

2 billion Americans paying for a few measly adult diapers would be trivial.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 03:12 | 5200893 kekekekekekeke
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<3

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:12 | 5199690 daveO
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2/3rd's were black. The gov. could already have gone bust! Instead, we've just dragged out the inevitable.

Of course, Ehrlich's reinforcement of women's career choice over children had an impact. They wanted a 'reason' to stay at work. Nowadays, we have the phony global warming topic to convince people to live a lower standard of living, for the exact same reason(saving the planet). Also, a few at the top can profit more. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:59 | 5200147 numapepi
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Prince Eugene, you point out the dirty little secret of the New Class. Abortion is the genocide of our time. Those of us who are pro life are the modern equivalents of abolitionists. They were vilified in their day too.

 

Margret Sanger who started Planned Parenthood thought if Blacks were given access to abortion the would commit racial extinction. More black babies are killed in the womb than any other demographic. Talk about racism!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:19 | 5200235 p00k1e
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How do you think this will this impact Heaven/Hell capacity ratios? 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:43 | 5200330 Escrava Isaura
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In the internet you can be whatever you want. Why some choose to remain stupid is beyond me.


Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:19 | 5200972 Monty Burns
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Look on the bright side.  There'd be twice as many blacks had this option not been there.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:38 | 5199588 Spastica Rex
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Indian lover.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:54 | 5199652 HeavydutyMexica...
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"When a native species is overwhelmed by an invasive species their birthrates go down. This is what happens in nature and that is what happened, IS happening, in America today to those WHO BUILT THE COUNTRY."

 

hahahhaha...sounds like natural selection to me....survival of the fittest son.  Now go change your diaper laddie.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:04 | 5199682 daveO
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:18 | 5199722 snr-moment
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Like solar power versus coal, survival of the fittest doesn't require government subsidy.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 09:21 | 5201395 Martian Moon
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I'd call the recent demographic changes yet one more malevolent deformation caused by the state

Whatever the problem is .gov is usually the reason

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:01 | 5199671 daveO
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You can also thank preferential college admissions, gov. scholarships and hires for what's happened(also brought to us by Ehrlich's tribe, intentionally). Look at all the women Hillary Clinton's age and younger, comrade. The college educated ones are brainwashed that white men are their enemy (or at least their adversary). Remember, Hillary Bitch's infamous Tammy Wynette and baking cookies statement.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGranwN_uk

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:33 | 5199785 GeoffreyT
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"When a native species is overwhelmed by an invasive species their birthrates go down."

That's true if the invasive species is giving out blankets laced with smallpox, or has a bounty for the scalps of the natives. Ask any Cherokee, Blackfoot, Sioux...

Because unless we're talking about the 'Indians', your last paragraph makes no sense.

Or - and here's where I get a sharp pain behind my left eye - are you seriously trying to pretend that Anglo-Saxons are a 'native' species in the US?

It's almost painful to think that there are people going around with that level of historical ignorance - considering that the vast bulk of the US land mass did not have a single white foot on it until the second half of the 19th century.

 

Also: not for nothin', but there are plenty of native species whose reproduction rates are at least on a par with the invaders... the Maori, the Aussie aborigine, Indians (during the British colonial period), the Malay (ditto).

 

Reproduction is an economic phenomenon: as folks get richer, there is less incentive to have children as a form of 'investment'. As folks get out of subsistence levels of activity, women in particular become aware of the high opportunity cost of the time taken to have children and raise them. increasing material comfort enables resources to be devoted to education of women, and as a result women are also more informed about the alternatives to letting nature run its course when Hubby squirts a load into their vajayjay.

That's why dirt-poor whites breed at rates above replacement: low opportunity cost of time; low levels of education; plus subsidy (child welfare payments).

For the wealthy (and the smart: the two overlap quite a bit), subsidies do not meet the 'threshold' that gives the "breeding project" a positive NPV.

 

So as with all things in economics, we get more of what we subsidise... and for three generations we have subsidised the reproduction of the Deltas and Epsilons (regardless of race or creed), which is why their culture is a growing segment of western culture.

Dummies breed with dummies, and breed prolifically; the smart breed with the smart, and do so at rates below replacement... which means that the 'top' becomes ever more rarified, and the vulgus gets to Idiocracy levels of gibbering stupidity.

Prior to the middle of the 20th century, there was a natural self-limiter on the reproduction of the proles: infant and child mortality (even in the West - in the poor parts of London in the 1950s, there was a 20% chance that a kid died before they were 5). Advances in sanitation and health-care have reduced the neonatal death rate dramatically (a good thing) but the birth rate among the Deltas has slowed only modestly. Result (mathematics): more proles.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:33 | 5200754 BooMushroom
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The solution to idocracy? Patriarchy. You don't have to like it, but it works.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:54 | 5200121 oudinot
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laddie: Paul Ehrlich was not Johnny Carson's most frequent guest.

You are one sick puppy.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:13 | 5200449 falconflight
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I'm sure his most frequent guest musta been a Jew, so he's part right.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:33 | 5200501 falconflight
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According to the LA Times

 

The Guests Who were the most frequent guests during Carson's tenure? The top 10, with the number of appearances: 1. Bob Hope: 131 2. Joan Rivers: 105 3. David Steinberg: 105 4. Tony Randall: 104 5. Charles Nelson Reilly: 97 6. Orson Bean: 93 7. Joyce Brothers: 90 8. Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme: 86 9. Buddy Hackett: 78 10.Don Rickles: 75

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:40 | 5200311 Dr Brown
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If you think the birth rate has more to do with the Tonight Show than education level and SES, you are definitely too far gone to help.  And immigrants raping 1 yr olds is not common.  You are action packed with issues, hombre.

Long Depends.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:21 | 5199529 Dr Strangemember
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Hmmmmmmm, i feel something moist and steamy in my pants... yet I feel much better.  : )

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:09 | 5200722 Proofreder
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Do you own a dog or

perhaps a cat?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:21 | 5199530 Spastica Rex
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Hurry - import some children, or at least some breeding stock!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:23 | 5199537 nakki
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That's funny, because the government says even though 10000 people turn 65 every day in this country health care will be increasing 5.8% from 2012-2002 1% more than GDP. I don't know what's funnier, health care expenditures and costs rising only at 5.8% or GDP averaging 4.8 %. Wonder if diapers are covered by Medicare and Medicaid. If the senior diaper lobby is as good as the lark, scooter lobby get long adult diapers.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:26 | 5199546 adr
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And out of the 62.9 births 60 are black, Hispanic, and 3rd world Asian.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:31 | 5199564 snr-moment
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Maybe there are just a lot of disgruntled people who need to drive 1000 miles discreetly.....

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:49 | 5199631 q99x2
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Long UPMC

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:23 | 5199739 10mm
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The lucky ones go fast. Bypass all that SHIT.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:36 | 5199800 BobRocket
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It's simple.

 

Reducing child mortality reduces total fertility rate.

Importing foreigners from high fertility countries has been the Western response but this is a temporary fix as the children of these immigrants are Westerners with low fertility rate.

The fertility rate in the source countries is also falling as conditions in those hell holes improves, it will become harder to source these immigrants over time

 

 

More interesting is comparing worker productivity over the decades.

 

Divide GDP by the size of the workforce using compartive dollars.

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:12 | 5200969 Monty Burns
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You seriously believe that replacing, for example Swedes with Somalis represents some kind of 'solution'?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:33 | 5201091 BobRocket
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The Swedes (along with Norway, Denmark, the rest of Europe etc.) will die out with a total fertility rate of 2 or less, this is not political, economic or anything else, it is mathematics.

They can slow the inevitable demise by importing fecund migrants but die out they will (we all will)

 

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for the human race will drop to zero.

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:12 | 5201641 snr-moment
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It has more to do with socialism.  You cannot take 75% of what a couple makes and expect them to have children.  You cannot have society denigrate maternity  and expect couples to want children.

 

This is a problem ENTIRELY of elite making.  But now, since the resulting deflation would cause prob;ems for them, they bring in foreigners.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:27 | 5202226 Monty Burns
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True, the Scandinavians and many other White countries (plus Japan and Korea) are doomed to die off if present demographic trends continue.  But my point is that whether those trends continue or not importing vast numbers of backward, violent and unassimable welfare parasites won't improve anything.  Au contraire.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:39 | 5199807 vegas
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OK, from now on, I buy the kids diapers instead - besides, I like the little bunnies on them instead of the Depends with Old Spice.

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:14 | 5199946 Yes_Questions
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why is the Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention relied on for birth numbers?

 

??

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:16 | 5200215 Bear
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triple post ... sticky fingers, sticky keyboard

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:15 | 5200216 Bear
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.gov believes that kids are a plague ... worth repeating?

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