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Are You Eligible For A Scottish Passport?
Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,
Anyone who’s ever seen the movie Braveheart has heard of William Wallace, one of the original heroes of Scottish independence.
Though Mel Gibson’s highly fictionalized account was one of the most historically inaccurate movies in modern cinema, Wallace did, in fact, lead Scottish rebels against English invaders. And he died for his cause.
Wallace was severely tortured after being convicted of high treason against King Edward I; he was dragged by horses, hung nearly to the point of death, revived, relieved of his manhood, ritualistically disemboweled, made to watch his entrails set ablaze… then finally beheaded.
Not the way you want to go.
That said, the movement for Scottish independence lived on, and England folded in 1357, ending a 60-year war between the two nations.
For the next 350 years Scotland remained an independent state until… go figure… a financial crisis.
In a desperate attempt to become (almost overnight) a major world trading power in the 17th century, the government of Scotland backed a comically ill-fated attempt to colonize Panama.
It failed miserably. Yet the investment in the Darien Scheme (as it was known) amounted to up to half of Scotland’s total money supply.
When it went bust, Scotland was nearly broke.
There had already been a push to reunify with England for some time. And with the country’s economy in shambles, unification seemed like a good move.
Today Scotland again finds itself debating the question of its independence, fueled once more by economics.
It’s easy to point to a number of different causes of rebellion, revolution, and dissent. But ultimately it’s economics that matter more than anything else.
When times are good and everyone is prosperous, few people want to rock the boat. No one has an incentive to change the system when it’s working so well.
Only when the prosperity begins to collapse do people have a strong motivation to change the status quo.
Suddenly the jobs are less plentiful, the taxes are higher, the standard of living is lower, and the costs are greater. And people demand change.
The greater the pain, the greater the desire to shake things up. And it’s happening across the world.
In Europe, separatist and extreme parties are gaining ground on the heels of an economic depression that has besieged the continent for several years now.
In France, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc., people are fed up with the current state of affairs, and they are agitating to split off from their current political leadership.
Likewise, Scottish voters are going to the polls in just over a week to decide if they should break away from the UK.
And from the looks of things, the independence movement has a very strong chance of winning.
Whenever major changes happen, this brings opportunities as well.
For example, a newly independent Scotland would create its own tax and corporate laws, potentially providing a number of major incentives to attract foreign talent and productive companies.
A Scottish passport would also be attainable for many people. Some basic guidance has already been issued:
British citizens living in Scotland on day one of independence, plus Scottish-born British citizens living outside Scotland, would be automatically considered Scottish citizens.
After independence, children born in Scotland, and children born outside Scotland to at least one Scottish parent, will be automatically considered to be Scottish citizens.
A person who has a parent or grandparent eligible for Scottish citizenship, will be able to register as a Scottish citizen by descent.
Scotland will also allow dual citizenship, so no one would have to renounce his/her existing citizenship.
Presuming the independence movement wins, Scottish citizens will be able to apply for a Scottish passport from day one of independence.
People will be able to continue using their existing UK passport until it expires. They can then choose to get a Scottish passport when their existing passport is due for renewal.
Scotland’s Future sets out that Scotland will remain part of the Common Travel Area between the nations of the British Isles, which means that the Scots won’t need a passport to travel to the rest of the UK or Ireland.
These are exciting times and this once again illustrates that there are opportunities hidden within every crisis.
We’ll be carefully following the results of this event and will have more details for our premium members as things unfold.
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what else do you do in Scottand besides get drunk?
http://hedgeaccording.ly/2014/09/cftcs-tim-massad-agency-focused-on-fine...
That's what she asked...
By the time I got to the point of this article, I was too bored to continue to read. WTF Simon?
Hey... where's my wallet?!?
Two words.. Die Bold
This "independence" will never, ever happen...
Even if they did become independent, I fear the Scots are so indoctrinated with UK nanny-state-ism, that Scotland won't be materially different from what it is now.
A person who has a parent or grandparent eligible for Scottish citizenship, will be able to register as a Scottish citizen by descent.
Swweeeetttt!!!!!
Vote Yes just for Mel Gibson's performance!!!
What if one's grandparent were a Scottish illegal alien who jumped ship in New York so he wouldn't have fight in WWI and dodged the INS for 70 years. Hypothecally speaking, since no one know of is descended from an illegal alien from Glasgow.
Sounds like half of New York...
Shoot heroin.
Smack is for NFL wives... Ba-dump-bump!
Store your gold!
/s
Drunk in "Scottand"?
You're thinking of Ireland.
The Scots are known for being tight with money.
If you're half Irish and half Scottish; you'll want to get drunk, but you won't want to pay for it...
Q: What's the difference between bagpipes and an onion?
A: Nobody cries when you cut-up a bagpipe.
Right, a Scot is a Irishman that is to cheap to buy his own booze
Fuck yoo! I knows ya owes me a brew laddie.
Copper wire was invented when a Scotsman and a Dutchman found a penny at the same time.
Electromagnetism was discovered when the Jew tried steeling the Scot's bike and got wrapped in the penny.
Hey poolshark, clear you never lived in Scotland. The roar that rises at closing time Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings when all the pubs empty out will make your blood run cold.
let's settle it on the rugby pitch! England has been a bit soft last few decades IMO... and would make for great pay per view event.
ecstasy, heroin, cocain, amyl nitrate, lsd, marijuana, METHADONE!, amphetamines, PCP, glue, barbituates, diazepam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLfr1EP08
HTH
"I love scotch, I love scotch, scotch scotch scotch, here it goes down, down into my belly, mmm mmm mmm."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovUkATL4l_g
That's *almost* what she said.
eat deep fried pizza and candy bars
Fuck your mom's arse?
play golf on some of the best courses in the world!
Wear kilts, eat disgusting food, have sex with sheep, have bad teeth, and be married to someone with bad teeth. And speak "English" that is hard to understand.
More scotch me hopes
Single malt that is
When will some states in the USA have the same type of vote?
Texas is mulling it over right now. They won't try until they're good and pissed off about things, though. Plus they have a problem. It's called Austin.
I live in Texas... I'm good and pissed off. :)
Wish it were just Austin... lots of places in Dallas, Houston, El Paso etc. that like their enslavement/checks.... But, Austin is the big one...
The only clear-cut legal path to seccession is a subdivision of the existing State that sacrifices at lest some small corner of the State to remain as slaves to DC, while the rest of the State(s) secede to consider if they would want to rejoin the USSA... Austin is an ideal candidate, and as the capital of the existing State, no one in DC can reasonably argue that the city of Austin shouldn't retain the existing Texas statehood while the rest of State becomes New Texas.
Easy, draw a circle with a 15 mille radius around Austin and call that SOT (State of Texas). We'll even let them pave a two lane to the Oklahoma border. Everything else will become the ROT (Republic of Texas)
How do you spell liberal fascist? L-I-A-R ...Scotch that, how do you spell progressive fascist? E-F-F-I-N-G L-I-A-R
Yee Hah!
A must read if you're a Texan...
http://www.texnat.org/line-in-the-sand.pdf
Yes, very exciting. Let's see if it actually happens before we all start celebrating. I have my doubts if they can pull this off.
Diebold. 'Nuf said.
or, alternatively, who is really behind this push? Is it just another banker game, or a real human movement?
the fact that certain Scottish towns publically showed support for Palestinians during the most recent israeli slaughter gives some potential clues:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11020629/Scotl...
MP Galloway would attest to that... some Zio-thug sucker punched him a few days back, showing his true colors of course, POS they are
Let me legally have as many firearms with 30 round mags as I desire with rights to conceal my weapon, and I may consider a move.
Just do it anyway and don't flaunt it about. Or try Northern Ireland.
It's a beautiful place to visit but, there's not much there.... Even the swords and armor that are displayed at their castles are on loan from England.
England has already stolen everything... they may as well cut loose.
Given the future of the North Sea oil and gas industry, the timing is indeed interesting. "Allowed" to separate comes to mind.
They have even stolen their magic rocks.
I think they stole it back not long ago but, yes... even the rocks. LOL
A quote from trainspotting comes to mind ( so many great quotes from that movie.... I need to go watch it again ): " I hate being Scottish. We're the lowest of the fucking low, the scum of the earth, the most wretched, servile, miserable, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the English, but I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. We can't even pick a decent culture to be colonized by. We are ruled by effete arseholes. It's a shite state of affairs and all the fresh air in the world will not make any fucking difference. "
Maybe, but the scotch makes up for much of it.
The scotch does make up for it.... I'm a fan myself.
I'll drink the Islay malts since they're cooler on the palate but, my favorites are Highland and Speysides... Balvenie 15 neat please... MMMMMMMMMMMM.
... they may as well cut loose.
Aye cut loose, but when the OIL runs out....
we will be baaaaaaacck!
You buy enough* Single Malt Scotch barrels, and you qualify. Cheers.
* Several hundred thousand Scottish Pounds worth.
Will be applying for my kids ASAP. Never hurts to be a multinational.
Only white people worry about passports, but yeah, as long as there are no additional taxes or military service requirements it's a good idea.
MANY of my ancestors are from Scotland.... none have lived there in over 100yrs though.
I did spend a week there a few years ago and LOVED it.... very quiet... esp. when you get out of the city and get up in the highlands.... wow...
Pubs and the people there are great!!!
its nice to not have to pay the freeloaders sitting in Buckingham Palace.
Wrong. They will still be sitting in Holyrood and Balmoral... on the Scottish taxpayers "dime" this time.
Hmm they could make it interesting by saying, well we don't have a monarchy here. You have to pay tax on your estate. If they don't, cut off all utilities and employ force majeure. I might be indulging myself w/that scenario, but it would be awesome. Turn Balmoral into an orphans and widows home.
no more BOE bullocks!!! Now, once you are independent, look east and sign some trade deals and swap lines. You will then assure your own sovereignty without being financially nuked by the banksters in the BOE.
The New Scotland will be heavily financed by export sales of Scotch and Lucky White Heather, vast areas of Highland moors to be plowed up for the cultivation of Heather. Grouse and Deer meat packs will also feature strongly, wee bottles of Scottish oil for the tourists could also be on the cards.
Fragments of Billy Wallace's bones in blister packs for the American tourists. Billy Connelly fragments for Australian tourists.
A dab of blue face paint together with a sprig of Lucky White Heather on postcards expected to be a real earner.
Och aye, yins heard it here fust!
Trust me, I'm a Scot.
It has been pointed out that Billy Connelly is still living...
This will change some time after he is torn apart for his fragments....
If you have an EU passport, you can live in Scotland. Stay there (preferably with a job) till you qualify for Citizenship.
Although it's probably pointless if you are already a member of another EU country, which hopefully/probably has a better economy, pay and climate.
There are no jobs in Scotland, or the north of England. Social problems are at epidemic levels, it rains constantly, the perpetual cloud cover gives a constant low dim grey light. Why do you think half the population spend their lives pissed out of their skulls with the other half high on drugs?
Why would you want to live there? Most who do are desperately trying to get away.
therefore a good reason to make a major change when the oil and gas can provide cover for a transition to something else - else - is a risk worth taking in the face of despair
"Why would you want to live there?"
In one word, reheads.
Except they won't be in the EU, which actually might normally be a point in favour of leaving except they'll need a new teat to suck on. Oh dear.
oBUMMER was relieved of his manhood and he smiled the whole time.
Next up Wales !
or a United Ireland.
Welshmen should turn this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtnWVvDX6k
If they manage to pass this referendum. I'd consider dropping my US citizenship to move there.
As if independence will insulate the Scots form the influence of the City.
Nobody is insulated from the City's influence.
Nobody
and if Mexicans knew what surprises the debt merchants and military have in store for them they would be fleeing back across the Rio Grande. They jump from the poverty frying pan into the poverty fire.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/a/citizenship.htm
All they have to do is fight, or die, in the ME.
Nobody?
I wasn't expecting a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
Ummmmmmmm....
"Wallace was severely tortured after being convicted of high treason against King Edward I; he was dragged by horses, hung nearly to the point of death, revived, relieved of his manhood, ritualistically disemboweled, made to watch his entrails set ablaze… then finally beheaded."
Maybe we should bring this punishment back for high treason......
'cept the assholes in charge won't ever convict any real traitors.
Because they are the real traitors.
May you find independence, Scotland. Set yourself free and prosper.
Scotland will also allow dual citizenship.
Kinda like the American Congress and upper eschelons of the entire US Bureacracy!
Eat haggis.
Nae
FUCK YEAH :D
I need them to go back further than just grandfather. Maybe 10 generations.... But I am wiling to try to drink my way into citizenship...
We shall reside near Islay!
LOL... Yes on the West coast it will be.
i can't drink anymore, but I can warm the house with peet bricks!
Maybe the Scots should be trying to oust the landowners first
Imagine a feudal country where 432 families own half the land. Welcome to Scotland - UK Politics - UK - The Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/imagine-a-feudal-country-w...
Simon Black, you Casey Research idiot. Ireland is not in the British Isles
Go back to high school in Stowe
"between the nations of the British Isles, which means that the Scots won’t need a passport to travel to the rest of the UK or Ireland"
You ignorant Asshole!
Clot! Ireland, the island, is most certainly one of the British Isles. It is not, largely, part of the UK, though. Ulster, aska Northern Ireland is part of the UK. The Republic of Ireland, aka the South, is a separate state.
Moar bagpipe!
How about those peeples who really, really, really want a Scottish passport?
...so Britain should be happy to release that many takers and they can supplant it with more from Africa, the middle East and the Balkans who are just yearning for some good old fashioned UK .gov loving! Let's get the jets fueled up from WESTERN AFRICA for landing at Heathrow!
Lots of English will be happy to see them go, particularly since the import of those fine folk from the ME, Africa and Pakistan was driven by UK Labor governments that would not have existed except for their strong support in Scotland.
If Scotland secedes, England loses a disproportionate number of dependents and gets back control over immigration into England.
They better build a tall wall to keep the Scots from sneaking back in.
I am already a true Scotsman. Ain't wearing nothing under me kilt but talcum powder and two shades of lipstick.
But seriously, I would love to be a citizen of Independent Scotland. I don't believe I qualify under any of the criteria, though.
Everything the kilt wearing Jock could wish for
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Supposedly the big argument is that they will not be protected by NATO and terrorism will follow. Isn't NATO ready to go to war over a non-NATO country...Ukraine?
No offence to Islamic terrorists or NATO or anything but frankly the state of Scotland is such that they get their arses kicked. The last one that tried to blow up Glasgow Airport was kicked in the balls and left burning by his car.
Where can I go to vote? And where is the obligatory Mel Gibson movie clip?
AARRRRR LADIE
FFRREEEEDDOOMM
FOR
SSCCOOTT
LAND
Saor Alba!
Listen. This is all "MOOT". How the fuck do I become "Premium Member" is all I want to know!? Can I do it from here in India now or do I have to wait for Scotland to become independent?
The new state should avoid some pitfalls it will be inheriting from its failing parents . To fail before birth is not the Scottish Way .
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/09/failed-state-usa.html
What's the weather like in Scotland? Will I be able to find an attractive woman to breed with?
Shitty.
No
The weather is dismal and depressing. There is nothing to do in the whole country except fuck sheep and drink heavily.
New opportunities at making plentyyyyy, waw! = big corporations hyenas already circling.
I have an English coworker. I asked him yesterday for his opinion on this.
His words: "If they vote for it, they'll be eating their children to survive in 6 months."
So, there's always that to consider I guess???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdY1Y5XNJBY
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If Scotland votes yes, the average annual rainfall in the UK will decrease by 20cm.
lmfao. One big plus they'll start the day with no government debt. But I think it won't be long before they are loaded to their gills with debt as well.
I can hear it now.
We're free from English rule!! Hurrah!!
A year later.
I thought we were free. Shut up slave and pay your taxes so we can pay our debt to England..
For the next 350 years Scotland remained an independent state until… go figure… a financial crisis.
35 years will be a stretch this time. Between Socialism, RBS and dwindling North Sea oil, they'll be broke in 10-15.2 Scotsmen were walking doon the road, suddenly one spied a sheep caught by its head in a barbed wire fence.. He sauntered over to the entrapped ewe, hiked up his kilt and proceeded to have his way with her. Once finished he returned to his companion and said " You should really give it a try". The second scot walked doon to the sheep, hiked up his kilt and put his head in the barbed wired fence.
The Labor Party will be screwed if the vote is yes. Labor controls the vast majority of Scotland's seats in parliament.
The Scots should ditch the UK and the EU.
The New Central Bank of Scotland should become the sovereign money issuer so there is no need to borrow from the markets (Positive Money)
They should reverse the 'clearance' by instituting a Land Value Tax whilst abolishing corporation tax, income tax, inheritance tax and sales tax.
Most importantly they should tell Cameron, Clegg, Milliband and the rest of the OxBridge wankers to fuck off.
Yeah, because putting foreign import restrictions on more than $100 billion of exported goods and services, half of which goes to one EU country connected by road and rail is really "a good idea".
I drink scotch, go I qualify?
In a great start, Salmond has threatened default on Scotland portion of UK national debt. Yes, that will certainly encourage the markets...
The question on my mind is, who sponsors (aka controls) Salmond? I think someone is lining themselves up for some asset stripping.
I don't have Scottish parents but I love cheap scotch and even butter scotch. Can I apply too? Screw you, Pru!
I don't think they'll get out of their debt scot free.