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Ebola Outbreak Doubles In 3 Weeks, WHO Warns "Conventional Means Of Control Not Working"

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The Ebola outbreak in West Africa has now killed 2,288 people (with 4,269 cases) according to the World Health Organization, but is accelerating dramatically. In a rather stunning admission, WHO warns, conventional means of controlling the outbreak are not working as the last 3 weeks have seen the number of cases and deaths double.

As The BBC reports,

The Ebola outbreak in West Africa has killed 2,288 people, with half of them dying in the last three weeks, the World Health Organization (WHO) says.

 

It said that 47% of the deaths and 49% of the total 4,269 cases had come in the 21 days leading up to 6 September.

 

The health agency warned that thousands more cases could occur in Liberia, which has had the most fatalities.

 

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In Nigeria, eight people have died out of 21 cases, while one case of Ebola has been confirmed in Senegal, the WHO said in its latest update.

 

On Monday, the agency called on organisations combating the outbreak in Liberia to scale up efforts to control the outbreak "three-to-four fold".

 

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However, the WHO says conventional means of controlling the outbreak, which include avoiding close physical contact with those infected and wearing personal protective equipment, were not working well in Liberia.

Where it is...

 

Where it will be...

 

As the case and death count accelerates...

 

As WHO shows...

 

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Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:55 | 5199867 UP Forester
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Call in the hyperbaric firebombs.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:02 | 5199888 Greenskeeper_Carl
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That's how these things multiply. 1 case turning into 2, then 4, etc over a few weeks doesn't sound so bad. But once it gets into the thousands, all bets are off. And yet you can still hop onto a nonstop flight from any of these places to several US cities. Marvelous.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:06 | 5199894 knukles
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Yeah... try Cordon Sanitaire
But oh the fuck no, not in today's politically correct world. Cordon means isolating an area.... nobody in or out.  Period.  They die horrible deaths.  Tough shit.  And when its "done" you torch everything living, dead, in between.
It works, is proven.
Fucking morons.

Like this is a situation of Kill or Be Killed, no graces, niceties, downside is 100% fucking death, upside is horror of doing it right.  There is no other option.  Period
This has been done in the past and has to be done, now.

Moving people out of theses areas is fucking madness

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:11 | 5199914 Spine01
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The only explanation for standard measures to prevent spread not working is mutation of the virus to a form that propagates differently than previously thought. Period. No other explanation is possible.

Not even your suggestion will work, when the virus can go easily to the animal kingdom and back to humans. Just a bat escaping the containment area will spread the virus to other animal and human populations. Wait until mosquitoes like the anopheles mosquito starts participating in the spread of the virus. And for all I know it could already be happening.

For what happens when you have a fast mutating virus, watch: "The Last Ship" to get a pretty accurate picture of the possible situation that is evolving.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:16 | 5199961 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. It's time for your African-Americans to go home to the motherland to give a 'HELPING-HAND'!

Come-on Oprah, Tavis, Rev. Al, and all.. Your ancestors need you!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:16 | 5199963 Xibalba
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How did OUTBREAK end again?  Go see it if you want a refresher.  

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114069/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_39

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:16 | 5199966 Keyser
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Provided without comment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gRLv0sA_c

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:27 | 5200002 Publicus
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Time to consider the nuclear option.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:41 | 5200042 MonsterBox
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Too late. The Runners (like Sawyer) are way out front of these MSM reports.

Knowing what happens in quarantine, who's going to show up at a FEMA center with a fever, cramps & pukes?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:12 | 5200203 General Decline
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I have a coworker who is flying back out of Libreville next week. I suggested he take a month in Paris to "unwind". Lets face it, who would be heartbroken if Ebola ravaged France?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:14 | 5200728 Elvis the Pelvis
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Ebola might be bad.  But it sure beats dying of ass cancer.  There are worse ways to go.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:38 | 5200765 Son of Loki
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Ebola evacuations to US greater than previously known Transports have included patients exposed to virus, air ambulance operator says

An undisclosed number of people who’ve been exposed to the Ebola virus — not just the four patients publicly identified with diagnosed cases — have been evacuated to the U.S. by an air ambulance company contracted by the State Department.

“We moved a lot of other people who had an exposure event,” said Dent Thompson, vice president of Phoenix Air Group. “Many times these people are just fine, they just had an exposure. But you have to treat it as though the disease is present.”

http://news.yahoo.com/us-ebola-evacuations-has-included-more-patients--a...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 03:32 | 5200909 California Nigh...
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Yup. Lies, lies, lies. 

So who knows what the fuck is really happening in the good ol' U.S. of A?

Maybe it is time to hit the grocery store one last time, and it's Kattie bar the doors. 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:29 | 5201086 Truthseeker2
Wed, 09/10/2014 - 04:21 | 5200938 Hobbleknee
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"But you have to treat it as though the disease is present."

 

So they're all in quarantine for at least a month?  Of course not.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:57 | 5202376 Carl Spackler
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The Sahara looks like the place to be.  No incidences on the map, and no incidences North of the Sahara..

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:36 | 5200205 Hephaestus
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 Here is my plan:    1. Hire the people that come in with it and survive to help take care of the others. (pay decent wages but not enough to cause self infection.) Profit motive is part A to bring in the sick. If buttloads of ill show up then we're gonna need some help thats immune to that strain anyway. 2. Give the infected real treatment in the most humane manner possible. This is part two - if you have Ebola saline, blood etc. will greatly raise survial chances. Survival is another strong motive!  This gets them to come forward as soon as they suspect they are infected. No need to go door to door and shit. That would also provide a scalable work force to deal with it.

If we can draw them out of the woodwork and provide care takers the rest of the plantet can just send cots supplies etc. until it has calmed down.
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:49 | 5200351 BraveSirRobin
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Has it been proven survivors are immune to reinfection? Just wondering. Especially if it is fast mutating. for example, you can catch the flu over and over again.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:52 | 5200359 BraveSirRobin
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Please... this is a serious matter. Enough with the crazy tin foil hat shit already.

Any new word on the potential case in Miami?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:52 | 5200494 ss123
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Exactly. Aren't there only 6 degrees to reach Kevin Bacon?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:25 | 5201690 Citxmech
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We better hope that Kevin does't get it then, or we're all done for.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:29 | 5200659 Paveway IV
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"...Please... this is a serious matter. Enough with the crazy tin foil hat shit already..."

1. Fuck you.

2. Ebola Viral Disease (EVD) is caused by any of several viral species in the viral genus ebolavirus. The disease was previously known as Ebola Heamorrhagic Fever but not any more.

Known ebolavirus species, any and all of which can cause the EVD disease:

EBOV - Zaire virus (this outbreak) - also confusingly just called Ebola virus (Zaire is now the Dem. Repub. of Congo or DRC)

TAFV - Tai Forest virus - also called Cote 'd'Iviore virus

SUDV - Sudan virus

BDBV - Bundibugyo virus

RESTV - Reston virus

Immunity after convalescence is generally associated to the particular species of ebolavirus* and not to the common disease name.

 

Short answer: You would NOT automatically be immune to all ebola - it doesn't work like that. You might be immune for a while to the particular species that infected you, but they don't know for sure. You might be immune to all strains/variants of the particular species that infected you, but they don't know for sure.

 

*Species are informally classified into smaller categories called strains or variants. So far, post-recovery immunity (in chimps) seems like it might apply for all strains/variants within a species for ebolavirus BUT:

  1. Immunity to all strains/variants within a single species has never been studied or proven in humans
  2. There has never been a human outbreak of multiple species of ebolavirus or multiple strains/variants at the same time. Nobody knows for sure what will happen with human immunity if this occurs.
  3. No outbreak has lasted long enough for scientists to see any mutations/strains/variants develop, so you can't automatically conclude you're immune to any Zaire ebolavirus just because you survived a previous infection.
  4. Immunity in this case really means species-specific antibodies. You would have a lot right after recovery, but scientists don't know if there would be enough left in six months - or six years - to offer you enough protection from reinfection. It's never been studied because it would involve exposing someone to a known lethal dose.
  5. Past outbreaks have not been long enough to observe if survivors seem resistant to reinfection when (for instance) they would be taking care of other contagious victims later on. 

 

Some healthcare workers that survived and recovered from ebola are choosing to return to work treating other ebola victims. This has only happened with a few workers, and only for a few weeks so far. They are much more likely to be careful with their personal protective equipment and infection control. We don't know if they are really immune or if they're just being more careful. Too early to tell. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:46 | 5200691 Bananamerican
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No! Bundibugyo YOU!
:)

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:17 | 5200730 Miffed Microbio...
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I have read some papers stating minor virus variants have been shown cocirculate during an outbreak. These results suggest that the different clinical outcomes of Ebola infection do not result from virus mutations in all cases. However, being a negative sense RNA virus, the potential for mutation is great.

RNA viruses mutate faster than other DNA viruses because the enzyme RNA dependent RNA polymerase that synthesizes RNA does not have the activity of proof reading while DNA polymerase has this activity. Because of this absence of "proof reading" wrong bases are inserted without correction and hence mutation is faster.

Ebola immunopathology is characterized by uncontrolled inflammatory responses by monocytes and macrophages in the early stage of infection, coupled with immune suppression and the destruction of several cell types including dendritic cells (DCs, they process antigens to be "seen" by the immune system) and endothelial cells in the later stages of infection. This ultimately leads to the collapse of the vascular system, shock-like symptoms, uncontrollable hemorrhaging, and death.

Compared to those who recover from Ebola infection, victims exhibit high viral loads, an absence of cytotoxic CD8 T cell activation, below-normal numbers of T cells, and high nitric oxide production, a sign of macrophage activation. Furthermore, recovered individuals have detectable levels of anti-EBOV antibodies in the blood at the onset of symptoms, whereas susceptible individuals do not. Those who succumb to the virus mount a robust but INEFFECTIVE innate inflammatory response, followed by a failure to induce adaptive immunity. Viral replication and cell death continue, unchecked.

How is it that the innate response is both strong and ineffective? This paradox can be explained by differential effects of ebola virus on macrophages and DCs. While strongly activating monocytes and macrophages, ebola-infected DCs are INHIBITED in activation and function.

Good luck with developing a vaccine for this monster and with something that can deactivate the immune system, immunity will not be strong. Sorry, but the only effective response to Ebola is running for your life.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:47 | 5200782 Paveway IV
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Those lazy, easily-fooled DC bastards are ruining everything for us again!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:55 | 5200844 El Vaquero
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I already have my run-to spots for anything like that picked, Madame Miffed.  They're remote, relatively few people know that they even exist, they appear to be shitty desert, yet there is water, there is livestock and game, I'm pretty sure I could farm it and there are a ton of caves and canyons to hide in.  Really, only hunters (and not many of them,) ranchers, old timers and a few hikers know about them.  As a bonus, it's in one of the areas likely to not get hammered with fallout in the event of another kind of catastrophe.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:43 | 5200979 negue
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Would vitamin C help fight Ebola? I have read how the early signs of Ebola match those of scurvy. But is vitC worth a try? Thank you Miffed!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 11:14 | 5201881 Tall Tom
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Why will anyone downarrow an honest question?

 

Personally I do not believe that it will hurt but I do not believe that it will prove effective at prevention or in treatment.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 16:03 | 5203338 Miffed Microbio...
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I am a big advocate for vit C. I did research at my old job for the Linus Pauling institute. There are documented cases where people have recovered from near death influenza infections by massive doses of IV vit C ( must be intravenous). However for Ebola, I have great doubts this would help. Ebola literally MELTS the body down. We are talking magnitudes greater in strength. A pea shooter vs a howitzer. I have seen cases where bacteria are extremely sensitive to antibiotics but produce lethal toxins that kill patients quickly. The infectious disease Drs thought if antibiotics were given immediately at the start of the infection, long before the symptoms occurred, the patients would have lived. However, you see the dilemma. Who goes for treatment when they feel fine? Perhaps if one thought they were exposed and started treatment it could have some efficacy but getting massive amounts of IV C for up to 21 days? And with something that deactivates the immune system? Not good odds. My personal choice would still be to run.

If I found out today I had handled a flu specimen that was really an Ebola patient, I would turn off my cell phone, drive to a remote part of the desert and wait to die. I would bring a pen and paper so I could journal my experience and say good bye to all those I love. May be some day it would be found and be a testament to the folly of humans.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:01 | 5200402 Publicus
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Of course you can catch Ebola again if it mutates enough. The more we attempt to fight it, the faster it mutates.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 03:58 | 5200926 effendi
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Good point, in the Spanish Flu outbreak of 1919 there were 3 waves and the survivors of the earlier waves only had partial immunity (at best). 20 million (plus) died from that.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 04:43 | 5200952 BigDuke6
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If these guys didnt insist of making lurve to chimps then none of this would have happened :(

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 15:48 | 5203268 funthea
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I saw a program on History channel or such, that said that the flu of 1919 was swine flu. They claimed that they found the origin on an army base morgue in Tennessee or some shit. The first troops before deployment were getting sick. Some died on base and they kept samples. The troops deployed and killed much of Europe. Also the numbers were estimated to be upwards of 50 million.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:32 | 5200664 TheReplacement
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Or you might kill them and use their bodies for fuel at the local power plant.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:58 | 5200364 Paveway IV
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Will all of you stop being such pinheads? 

Everything is going exactly to plan and on schedule. 

Here - see if you can spot the psychopath's final solution for yourselves:

Nigeria: Hajj 2014 - Ogun Commences Airlifting of Pilgrims Today

 

Wake up. We're ALL f'king Gazains.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:26 | 5200739 cynicalskeptic
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Well, the NWO planned on emptying Africa as the home for our new (same as the old) alien overlords.   Seems like things are going according to plan.

 

Face it - humans were bred to be a slave race for mineral extraction on Earth eons ago then left to die when our overlords left.  Now they're returned for whatever reason.  An immature rae with nukes is a bit scary?  But it seems like we're making s mess of the planet so unless this is a deliberate 'geoengineering' effort to make the place more 'reptilian friendly' you have to wonder why they'd care.  Maybe there are enough of us to be a viable food source. 

Makes as much sense as any other 'explanation'.  

 

Seriously.... you have to wonder if somethign MAJOR is about to hit the fam - asteroisd impact, pole shift, whatever - something that's an extinction level event.. because it's clear that TPTB are ignoring any and all 'long term' consequences of their actions.  Seems like it's 'Grab what you can, build your deep long term survival shelter and hope to hell you sirvie because you know damn well that a few billion people WON'T.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:54 | 5200835 TeethVillage88s
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You are Avad. He is Elohim. Clear.

Avad is from Semitic and traces to Sumerian... it means worker, or really slave.

Elohim is Semitic and traces back to Sumeria... It means God. Often times government culture indicates the boss thinks he is a god... funny isn't it? No, not really.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 04:47 | 5200954 BigDuke6
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2 greens from the other "V" fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:37 | 5200055 kaiserhoff
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Amazing, is it not, how that shit just piles up on the borders of Mali and Ivory Coast.

Kind of like weather reports in the US.  Weather stops.  There is no weather in Canada.  It's on CNN, so it must be true.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:04 | 5200173 Bindar Dundat
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The power of expenential growth -- May 2016 gets us to 4 billion dead.

The need is a cure in 18 months.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:33 | 5200229 Hephaestus
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You are long it has been raging for like 160 days already.     2^(x/21)

320 days + - 90 days is the whole planet infected. That is if I mashed the buttons on my TI 84 correctly. If nothing is done soon it will have so many mutations that no vaccine could stop it...even if we had one.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:54 | 5200369 MsCreant
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Your wings, could we get like a spicy sauce on them, cook em, and dip em in a blu cheese? Mmmm!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:41 | 5200684 CheapBastard
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I hear the Monkey Meat Market there is pretty dead.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 11:10 | 5201872 Hephaestus
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The fruitbat Center for  Delicatessen Control  has informed me that my recent Murdering Men Repulser vaccination will prevent my consumption. I not so sure though and my head has been a little fuzzy since. CocKsucker dicKlicker sHit puSsy < twitching rocking> .  Maybe I could think better if my family would just shut up about the Council on Fruitbat Relations and their back room deals with Dracula. Perhaps I should just take the doctors advice and go on a 3 week vacation in Bolivia. Word is... fUck facH fuCk...its real safe there for bats now. If you do catch me I suggest you take my wings and fly far far away.... something is wrong in Africa!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:29 | 5200827 Wile-E-Coyote
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“Nuke the entire site from orbit--it's the only way to be sure”

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 11:14 | 5201876 Schizofrantic Squonk
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Hold on a second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:26 | 5201081 Volaille de Bresse
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I wouldn't go that far but the Ebola epidemic is the sad exmaple of what happens when countries have no borders left.

They become vulnerable... A country without protected borders is like a person without a skin.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:31 | 5200027 TeethVillage88s
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Apparently according to John Perkins Book, NGOs end up supporting the Corporate Agenda like in things like GMOs for farmers, and Monsanto chemicals in Africa... while the US creates chaos, brings in guns, pits people against each other, so they can buy African Resources on the Black Market or from Rebel Groups.

- The Evil sometimes includes our smart young people in NGOs that travel to Africa to "help" the poor and the "Farmers".
- Can't speak for the Gentleman in the Video, but seems Africa is a target for EU, UK, USA, China, Russia, and anyone else that wants resources
- An old man that condemns War is worth listening to
- Perkins book shows that Africa is the most unknown and abused Continent, and that understanding Africa may be key to solving our problems with humanity

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:37 | 5200526 TuPhat
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Understanding Africa may be a key to something but not humanities problems.  We can do more in our own back yard without messing with Africa.  A lot of people need to learn to understand themselves and you espouse understanding africa.  Get real.  I didn't down arrow you btw.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:57 | 5200588 TeethVillage88s
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TuPhat;

Okay, sounds true to me. I tend toward Libertarian in regard to recognizing sovereignty of foreign countries.

But we abuse the African Country as a Nation and know nothing about them while our government agents fuck around and screw people.

If we ask people in the USA what they know about Africa... they know nothing. But we use resources and minerals from Africa for our lifestyle... We enjoy the resources of Africa, but collectively we think they are just dumb, poor, uneducated, unknowing, unwise, simple, superstitious people... while the truth is they know farming, they know how to produce goods, they know how to make a profit, ... they have been doing this for over 3000 years... USA is just like 200 years old.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:08 | 5200615 Rusty Shorts
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:16 | 5200634 Rusty Shorts
Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:14 | 5200720 TeethVillage88s
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Full disclosure... I was drunk while writing the above statements. Seems ok.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:06 | 5200609 buttmint
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Bangalore....not a bad idea, but politically not Kosher.

If this ebola spreads to India, chances are quite high that Indian researchers will discover the still-mysterious vectors of transmission and come up with a series of vaccines. Why? Indians have no box to think out of---they are already "out of the box."

Not many Americans understand that India will be eclipsing all the progress and headlines trumpted by China. India is Asia, after all....

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 06:02 | 5200996 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. You're "PREACHING" to the choir.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:19 | 5199970 TeethVillage88s
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This year pulled up info from JAMA and another medical journal... it seems there are no codes for deaths in US Hospitals for poor hospital care or adverse drug reactions or over dose. SO LSS we have like at least 90K people killed in US Hospitals each year by mistakes... but the data doesn't really show that due to classifications and codes used/permitted. Original studies are old now, but freely available on the internet.

- For instance if someone dies from morphine, cocaine,... the person might be coded as poisoning death.

Anyway thought it is interesting. I have to go back to refresh my memory.

- Today I just heard that in hospitals deaths of old people and kids from viruses are sort of kept under wraps. In the case of an increase of flu or virus deaths... the press is not notified. There is no network of Grave Diggers or Morticians that will spread the word.

- So if Ebola or Spanish Flu starts claiming deaths... well not clear if the death of old people or young people count as important in the world of politics and health Info.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:36 | 5200022 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. Did you see that chart posted by 'THE TYLERS' the other day. It showed a precipitous decline in USSA Social Security liability.

Do you think that those boys over there in your SS office don't run different models based on 'EVENTS'.

Get it? Obamacare is not bringing in the revenue first thought of call the (CIA) and get the 'PACKAGE' into the wild....

"America the beautiful"

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:44 | 5200074 TeethVillage88s
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Hm... no I missed that one. That would seem very surprising.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-28/social-security-versus-cbo-who-...

This is a little older, but shows your point.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-ebola-evacuations-has-included-more-patients--a...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:57 | 5200108 Bindar Dundat
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Good point  Banger. I read the following in this link  http://www.larryobrien.net/my-worst-fear/

The 2014/5 Ebola Virus Flu was both a tragedy and a blessing.  It was  deadly to the plus sixty years old crowd; opening up jobs, for the younger people, in almost all areas of the economy.  The baby boom generation almost disappeared in six months and mass burials were common place.  The pandemic  gave Government pension plans some breathing room, killing off many of the beneficiaries and after Federal Legislation eliminated spouse survivor benefits the Federal Government was out of all pension obligations.   The Government was getting stronger and we were starting to feel better but our real break had come in 2012.  That was the election where America changed directions; and we are all better off today then we ever thought we could be during the economic collapse.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:40 | 5200315 TeethVillage88s
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Let's expand the meaning of GSE, Government Sponsored Enterprize.

For Instance:

A) New York Times
B) All US Mainstream Media
C) Wall Street Banks
D) US Chamber of Commerce
E) All US Colleges & Universities
F) US Hospitals
G) Big Pharma
H) Big Ag
I) Halliburton
J) Big US Engineering Firms
K) US Mercenaries, Private Military Armies, AT&T, Defense Contractors, Private Intelligence Companies, Air Express Shipping companies
L) Rand Corporation

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 02:04 | 5200853 TeethVillage88s
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What you guys are too high class to engage in pondering?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:27 | 5200003 SamuelMaverick
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I will repeat what I wrote after the very first Ebola report on ZH:  

           "Take this report as full blown confirmation that we have ( as ususal ) been lied to, and that way more than 700+ cases have been confirmed, and that this is now officially out of control. Fucking liars."  

       The only thing you can be sure of is that all official reports from any Government agency - The CDC, the WHO etc.,  are complete fucking lies. This is spreading faster than the Spanish Influenza after WW1. Just wait until some contageous asshole lands in a major European or American city. This is going to be a double tragedy, the suffering and death of its victims, and the absolute economic destruction it will cause when everyone is bunkering down during a Hot outbreak.  

           The biggest 'Tell' at this poker table is the number of healthcare workers and Doctors that are getting infected. For all you regular people out there that are not Doctors or do not have a medical background, this means that this is a seriously dangerous and contageous disease , and even trained medical professionals are dropping like flies.

 

            Maverick 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:43 | 5200078 Urban Redneck
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Technically, August 1 is after the very first ebola report on ZH, which was back on March 25...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:54 | 5200372 BraveSirRobin
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The infection rate amongst health profession is indeed worrisome, and another indicator that it is airborne, and statndard protocols to avoid infection seem to have failed.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:04 | 5200411 Four chan
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i haven't seen any trained medical professionals, all there have been is jesus freaks hell bent on delivering america the rapture via their meddling in africa.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:45 | 5200688 TheReplacement
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Aw someone hates people who try to help others of their own free will and with their own sweat and toil.  Here's a lolly.  Now calm down.

Of course most other people have the angle of getting mad at the atheist/luciferian/mafia crew who probably didn't actually cause this but cannot find a way to provide a half bill to save potentially billions of lives while they have been able to print trillions for their rich pals.  Buncha whackos.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:11 | 5200621 Dr Strangemember
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IS THIS MIAMI??????

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:51 | 5200696 Dr Strangemember
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If you like your neighbor's house more than yours (we'll call them the Joneses), there's a good chance that house will be on the market within the next several months.  And at a ridiculously low price. 

 

Thanks Ebola!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:33 | 5201092 Volaille de Bresse
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"Moving people out of theses areas is fucking madness"

You're 100 fucking right and I wonder how this new "care and tenderness" criminal policy has emerged.
In the past (70's/80's) once a person was thought to have Ebola they would be forced to stay in their home. Food would be supplied daily at the door front.

After a month either the suspect would be free of disease or dead from it. In that case the house would be burnt with the corpse inside.

That was the WISE Ebola policy. After several weeks the epidemic would die.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 08:28 | 5201185 free_lunch
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Ebola hoax Outbreak? Video

 

More video's claiming Ebola outbreak is a hoax: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ebola+hoax

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:48 | 5200571 zorba THE GREEK
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Who said What?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:00 | 5200595 Kirk2NCC1701
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Call in ISIS.  They'll get rid of it for you.  Tell them an African Caliphate beckons. /s

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 05:09 | 5200966 herohedge
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If Ebola spreads north at all, then it's right in the action. Meanwhile, the entire world is about to converge there for WWIII.

You'd think that for once in his life, Rand Paul would be excited to tell everyone how right he is to not intervene and secure the borders... but he's on board with WWIII now too. I guess that leaves Jesse Ventura as the only smart political candidate... and he has no chance. Why's that always happen to the best choice.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:03 | 5200601 Kirk2NCC1701
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Is it just me, or is Ebola starting to bore you too?

A lot more have died in other places:  E. Ukraine, Gaza, Syria, Libya, Iraq.  Detroit, Chicago...

Lemme know when it hits DC, NY or LA -- in earnest.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 15:16 | 5203082 RSloane
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I was getting there until I saw this video. The only reason that the other people knew the patient had Ebola because of a wristband he was wearing. No bleeding from the eyes, no rash, nada.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JZEaeOmfE

 

It has now mutated over 400 times. It is adapting, it is learning. Like a raptor. Oh my!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 04:04 | 5200930 diesheepledie
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If all goes well it will be known as "The Great Cleansing" of Africa.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 08:23 | 5201171 failure to perform
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All I'm going to tell you is that alot of kids are sick at our local schools. 35% of my daughters math class was out yesterday!This enterovirus is surely making the rounds. I'm sure this is all part of the ebola testing plan.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:15 | 5202790 PTR
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Zinc. Chlorella. Garlic. C. Probiotics. Elderberry. Fluids. Rest. Practicing a healthier diet over a long-term period of time.  

If you don't have the last one...remember the proverb: the best time to plant a tree was 15 years ago.  The second best time: today.

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:56 | 5199871 Bangin7GramRocks
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That map looks like it is bleeding out the anus. How appropriate.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:03 | 5199895 JackT
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Check the CDC - I don't see anything about bleeding anymore

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:10 | 5199926 knukles
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Fuck the CDC  The CDC is in CYA mode.  The whole earth should be getting just a tidge panicky right now, because Nothing and I mean Nothing Is Working
A little green man coming down from Mars would look at this shit and tell us that it is the End of Days ... like our predecessors foretasted   (Just sayin')

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:14 | 5199952 NoDebt
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I don't believe there has EVER been a case where human beings have been able to control or quarantine a viral outbreak.  Bacteria, yeah, but never a virus.

They run their course in areas where, for whatever reason, they are adapted to spread and infect.  Usually environment has a lot to do with it.  They run their course, they kill who they're going to kill and they slowly burn out on their own.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:22 | 5199984 TeethVillage88s
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Yeah, I just heard that this week too. That Ebola will burn itself out probably.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:46 | 5200086 Rockfish
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They only burn out if you can break the chain.  In isolated areas that was some what easy but not so now and a can garuntee you that at this very moment there are carriers flying, land arriving in very populated lands. 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:46 | 5200337 TeethVillage88s
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I think the burn out theory has to do with changing DNA of the Virus... if Ebola is a Virus.

Intelligent Virus is not a theory I don't think... Virus mutation is random.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:59 | 5200390 Parrotile
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Mutation is random, but those that become "less well-adapted" to the new host (us, in case you've not noticed) die off, whilst those mutations that confer propagation advantages propagate preferentially.

So, whilst the mutation progress may be completely random, it can often appear that the progression of mutations is "directed", simple because of the above.

A good example of "The Survival of The Fittest", at the very basement of life as we know it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:30 | 5200440 mjcOH1
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"I don't believe there has EVER been a case where human beings have been able to control or quarantine a viral outbreak. Bacteria, yeah, but never a virus."





Smallpox. Globally.

Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

The only other disease known to have been eliminated due to human effort (rinderpest) was also viral.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:44 | 5200552 TuPhat
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Sorry to tell you this but the eradication of Smallpox is only a myth.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:03 | 5200602 TeethVillage88s
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TuPhat; Yeah, I heard this also. Seems capitalism rules the politics and history. If a Capitalist Company wants Government Subsidies or Contracts it creates solutions ...just like Defense Contractors.

Fake results are very effective in the USA... year after year... we see studies that over turn other studies... and in MSM we see announcements that are immediately followed by other announcements that refute the same conclusion.

Everything in USA is Political. Science. History. Press. Education. Shopping. Pensions. Investing.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:34 | 5200761 TeethVillage88s
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So,... the Trolls think that all government & Media Info is real.

Wow.

So they never did any websearches for "ADR Hospitals Deaths accidents

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/developmentapprovalprocess/developmentresources...

http://www.vaccinationnews.org/DailyNews/August2001/AdvDrugReactKillMany...

http://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/2013/09/440k-preventable-hospital-death...

http://www.whale.to/drugs/iat.html

HOLY CRAP. The Search is 5 times more difficult today. I can't find my links or anything that looks like JAMA.

The Internet has had a COUP. Why is this not a Zerohedge Article. Health Care Data, Hospital Deaths, Deaths from ADRs, Deaths from Hospital Mistakes, Deaths from Hospital Overdoses, Deaths from Hospital Treatment... It is a Coup.

JAMA study ADR Hospitals Deaths accidents

I think we need Anonymous. Hey Kool Aid!!!!

US Deaths in Hospitals due to Mistakes!!

ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS MAY CAUSE OVER 100,000 DEATHS AMONG HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS EACH YEAR

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 08:39 | 5201227 drdolittle
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Smallpox to name one.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:35 | 5200046 Rockfish
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Shelter in place.  The rest of you go run around laughing , should take about 180 days to thin the herd. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:08 | 5200187 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. Look at that. The 'ANTI-SOCIAL' are the fittest.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:08 | 5200188 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. DP.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:47 | 5200342 TeethVillage88s
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Double Penetration? Do you mean A-cemetric warfare against Africa and now USA?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:32 | 5200666 BringOnTheAsteroid
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The end of days forecast by the blathering of Revelations I think was meant to be quite a spectacular fire and brimstone display. I highly doubt the prophesy is meant to entail humanity dying in a pool of its own vomit and diarrhea. Then Jesus returning exclaiming "Ewwwwhhh, this wasn't meant to happen, where are all my disciples".

The human race is beyond comical and a massive ebola outbreak will be mother natures way of saying "Fuck you assholes - next time think before you over populate the earth and fuck up my kingdom".

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:13 | 5201639 Tall Tom
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There will be wars and rumors of wars,

 

there will be great earthquakes in diverse places,

 

there will be famines and PESTILLENCES,

 

and these are just the BEGINNINGS of the birth pangs...

 

(I am too lazy this morning to look up the scripture reference and since you believe that the book is a myth it is rather meaningless to do that.)

 

HOWEVER what is lacking is YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT THE BOOK ACTUALLY SAYS.

 

(Do not worry. Many Christians have not ever even bothered to read the book also. YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THEM. You speak from ignorance and then turn around and ridicule them for their ignorance. Now that is actually humorous and I continue to garner laughter at your hypocritical behavior. Come on now...You know that you deserve my poke...)

 

But this, in my opinion FWIW, is how this damn thing is going to play out....

 

First Ebola will wipe out many.

 

But as this RNA Virus mutates the virulence of the virus will subside. More infected will survive and, thus, the death rate declines. My understanding of this originates from both Miffed Microbiologist and Parrotile. Both are PROFESSIONALS. I urge you to heed their words.

 

I am neither a professional microbiologist, a doctor, nor an epidemiologist at that. So I defer to them. 

 

However I am a Mathematician who does understand the Exponential Function. (And I am learning about this disease in a hurry...)

 

However, with the previous as a caveat, modern life with the conveniences of Electricity and the rest which we take for granted, for most, will cease. Because of the irreversible damage caused to the infrastructure humans will fall victim to other pestillence and famines. Ebola does not care whom it infects.

 

Yet those Nuke Plants melting down because of the lack of qualified people to operate them will turn Planet Earth into a Radiological Hell.

 

I can continue and write about Oil Refineries ceasing operations, food stocks rotting in the fields, lack...lack...lack...

 

There will be famine, the likes of which you have never experienced. Life will regress to the standards of pre Renaissance Europe.

 

To top that off all of those Nuclear Warheaded ICBMs just do not disappear.

 

Yeah...Pre Renaissance Europe...with Nukes...

 

It kind of reminds me of the second to the last episode of the Planet of the Apes Movie series from the 1970's...Escape from the Planet of the Apes??? 

 

Yes, ultimately fire and brimstone are still written into our future.

 

Did not downarrow you by the way. How can I when it was good for a laugh?

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 07:43 | 5205503 BringOnTheAsteroid
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It's funny atheists and theists debating. You think my views are comical, I think your views are comical and never the twain shall meet.

I'm not offended at all by the way, even if you called me a complete fucking idiot. Having debated with you I know you're a decent bloke and as we have been programmed differently it goes without saying we'd have differing opinions. 

I do think the bible is complete myth and I'd go as far to say that virtually none of it can be FACTUAL. I'm not sure you have thought this through, rather just accepted the bible is right because it's holy. I'd be interested in your response to the following. When all these characters were wandering around preaching and moving among the crowds how did what they say at that moment in time make it, unaldulterated, unblemished, unaltered into the pages of the bible some seventy PLUS years later?

Lets not worry about debating whether god exists or not, let's just stick to something that is physically present in the world. Does the bible represent what was actually said or what is nothing more than stories stitched together over millenia that has be palmed off as fact. This should be an easy one to get to the bottom of. Just spell out a plausible pathway from what moses said to the scribe who wrote down what moses said decades later. You have to start with the people who were around him who heard what he said. What did they do next?

Yoiu're going to say angels dictated the bible to the scribes, right? If this is the case then I guess we can't debate because I don't believe in magic. As a mathematician, neither should you. Have you ever come across a formula for magic?

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

It's very disingenous to be harking on about bible predictions as fact when there are many verses whose predictions have failed like the one above. I know you will spin the above sentence and claim "till all these things" was mistranslated and should read "some of these things" or something like that. You know how cognitive bias works.

By the way, I've read all 62 books of the bible but it's not something I'm proud of, it was a sickening waste of time. Anyone who goes into it thinking they will read the bible like a modern day work of non fiction would be sorely disappointed. The bible is a sorry mess and if it is the product of a divine being then I will eat my socks. Only humans could make such a mess of something that is supposed to be the guidebook for western human behaviour.

Thing is, as I've said before. I'm totally fine with the concept of a god making the universe. Totally fine if that is indeed what happened. There;s just no emperical evidence, end of story and I'm not getting into a debate about the definition of evidence. Like you claiming emphatically in the past that mathematics is absolute proof of god existence. I called you out on it, amazed others haven't as well. Mathematics might be the signature of an advanced alien race who concocted the universe, how could you prove otherwise.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 07:55 | 5205551 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Ebola outbreaks, pestilence, famine, nuclear winter, volcanoes, earth quakes, billions dead. As a christian this is good isn't it, something you want and indeed cherish. Something an infinitely powerful creator dictates will happen. This is so fucked up TT that I cannot fathom what has happened in your mind and the mind of all christians to go along with this.

It's a horrible sickness this thing called christianity. The emergence of religion well may be the characteristic of all failed advanced civilisations throughout the universe. What a gigantic irony this would be. 

I get pissed off with humans myself and want the earth rid of our species sometimes as well but this is just frustrated anger. I'd prefer humans to live within their means and in some form of harmony with nature instead of riding roughshod over the entire fucking planet.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:02 | 5199892 Rockfish
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This is one of those things tht are going run up on us the same way the car in front of you does while your texting. 

I looked up and holy shit where did he come from. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:33 | 5200668 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Nice analogy. Holy shit alright.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:04 | 5199896 NoDebt
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I'm starting to think these experts are full of shit about this thing not being airborne.  Or at least carried by more than just humans (rats, dogs, mice, whatever).  Too many damned health care workers with proper protective equipment and knowlege of sterile protocols coming down with it for something else to not be going on.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:11 | 5199925 Creeps
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I posted this on another Ebola article.

Emory doctor admits that Ebola can be spread through the air.  Listen at about 1:45 where he says that they wear a mask when a patient is generating a lot of droplets.

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2014/09/08/another-ebola-patient...

The doctor won't say coughing or sneezing, just generating droplets.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:29 | 5200013 caustixoid
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micro-droplets = breathing

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:05 | 5200418 Parrotile
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Producing a range of droplet sizes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10168531

Sneezing / coughing are very effective aerosol generators - both in terms of droplet size, and number! http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/09/how-far-do-sneeze-droplets-travel-and-how-big-can-they-get/ . SIX metres range good enough for you as a "walking Ebola Mary"??

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:32 | 5200029 Rockfish
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Thats just common sense.  I you don't believe then you go stand next to cughing sneezing patient with out a mask. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:34 | 5200036 Ignorance is bliss
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sweat and body oils contaminate sheets, clothes, bathroom, door handles, light switches, anything that touches the body.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:57 | 5200381 BraveSirRobin
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The CDC website admitted it was airborne stating it can be spread by "csaual contact." In a footnote, casual contact was defined as being within 3 feet of an infected person or in the same room for a prolonged period of time. It went on to state health care providers should where protection against airborn droplets. By the way, the Flu is also spread via "casual contact" defined by the CDC as being within 6 feet of an infected person.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:25 | 5200259 Cabreado
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"I'm starting to think these experts are full of shit about this thing not being airborne."

NoDebt, you bite off a lot to chew in one little paragraph.

Why don't you offer your definition of "airborne" to help the world decipher the real truth of the matter?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:04 | 5200407 Cabreado
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NoDebt,

That should've been an easy one...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 15:28 | 5203148 kumquatsunite
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Look at the pics, they are using these thin streams of water to "wash away" the virus, meaning when it is washed off where does it then go, they don't have containment units for the "washed away" water like they do LEVEL 5 CDC protocol for handling ebola. And then look at all the boots and gloves that are "washed" and then sat on poles in the sun so they can be used again. Seriously, there are NO "protocols" that can overcome these kinds of practices.

And you are trusting some low-level african to "wash you down" properly. So the docs are putting their lives in the hands of those with no education, no hygiene models, and who could really care less about a bunch of "compassionate" fat cat (to them) docs who get to go home (if they live) to their big screens and cars while the african washing them down gets the gruel. Think about it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:04 | 5199897 Dungholio
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Bullish!!!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:04 | 5199900 thamnosma
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Tylers you left out the part from the WHO statement which described the coming Ebola infections as increasing EXPONENTIALLY.   Their word.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:13 | 5199937 disabledvet
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Again "all eyes on Llagos." That City is beyond belief over populated.

"Long Catepillar."

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:58 | 5200137 sleepingbeauty
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Nigerian ebola cases has been so far only growing very slowly. 19 cases and 7 deaths. I think however the diplomat who escaped isolation and gave ebola to Dr Enemuo has caused a chain reaction that still has 477 people being surveilled. A young college student came down with symptoms yesterday.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:15 | 5200221 thamnosma
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Exponentially applied to Liberia according to WHO, not Nigeria.   Give it time.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:10 | 5200200 Bindar Dundat
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4 billion dead by May 2016 if exponential  progression continues.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:04 | 5200675 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Right, then it might be time to start over and think about not breeding like fucking bacteria.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:05 | 5199902 blindman
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"conventional" means have not been exercised so
i say wtf is the angle? surely some sham or depopulation
scam.
can one say sanitation? no, not really. always sacrifice
the function for the tangent and derivative, that is where the debt money
lies.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:05 | 5199903 buzzsaw99
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the WHO is pleased. they would be happier if it would spread all over the world.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:06 | 5199909 Rockfish
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really?  Why? 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:36 | 5200047 Four chan
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job security and finishing the job their aids couldn't do.

 

 

 

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/who_murdered_africa.htm

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 00:00 | 5200709 BringOnTheAsteroid
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What's the difference between mad sciientists creating Frankenstein viruses to wipe out a huge swathe of the population or humans breeding uncontrollably to the point we destroy the ecosystem and a huge swathe of the population is wiped out anyway.

People who have more children than is necessary to replace the existing population are all contributing to eventual genocide of the human race. What's so fucking hard about this to understand. The human population just can't keep expanding and at some point people have to stop having so many little darling human beings. 

People just don't want it to be them who have to limit their children to two. Hence, we are fucked.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 02:18 | 5200860 El Vaquero
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Interestingly enough, the Edo period in Japan had a relatively stable population of 25-30 million on those tiny-assed islands.  That's quite impressive, considering that it was a non-industrial nation.  It's just a tad bigger than my home state, which has 2 million, though water and no access to the sea would seriously reduce the carrying capacity of my state vs Japan.  They did this through various managing their farmland intelligently, and not just throwing shit away if it could be fixed.  If a metal item, such as a pot, was worn out, they would take it to a smith for repair if they could.  This reduced the loads on their forests, as non-industrial metal working uses A LOT of wood.  Another issue of contention during this period is whether the Japanese used infanticide as a means of controlling population.  Whether true or not, families didn't have a lot of children.

 

We can do a whole lot better, but not without some serious social upheaval first.  We can learn how to nudge our environment rather than destroying it or trying to control it outright.  We could learn how to reuse human waste rather than relying on mining and natural gas for things like phosphorous and nitrogen.  We have an employment problem?  How about local and intensive food production where it is understood that if you take it out of the soil, you have to put it back in?  It's not as glamorous as our techno-world, but it is more resilient.  Will following this philosophy support 7 billion people?  I'm going to say no.  But I suspect it would support more than just bumbling along.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 06:20 | 5201011 BringOnTheAsteroid
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You could come up with most spectacularly brilliant plan for managing our resources in order to support the current population or expand it OR we could have fewer children.

I suspect it's way too late to argue the toss now. The last train to a sustainable world left a long time ago and we missed it. To all those who had children in the last fifty years, your children unfortunately are going to suffer the short comings of their predecessors. How people can't see this is beyond me but I guess people shelter from the worries of the world in the comfort of their simple, local lives.

If by Sep 30th there are 4000 reported deaths we are in deep fucking shit and will most likely be the harbinger of the end of life as we know it.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 10:49 | 5201792 RSloane
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The reason why Dr Sarca got Ebola so quickly after arrival in a Liberian pregnancy clinic is that the woman he treated [believed to be patient zero in his contagion history] was also positive for HIV which prevented her immune system from launching a defense against Ebola. She presented with no symptoms and was afebrile because her immune response did not come into play. It begs the question why was an HIV woman pregnant in the first place. She knew she had HIV and assumed the doctor did also, which of course he did not.

People do not want to talk about reproduction responsibilities at all, as if having as many babies as wanted is a right and damned the responsibilities. Apparently the responsibilities are everyone else's problem. This issue is going to come into heavy play in the US's not-too-distant future, but people want to ignore it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:06 | 5199908 nmewn
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Chinese soldiers in the Sudan launch pre-emptive strike on ebola ;-)

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:14 | 5199956 Urban Redneck
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The Chinese already have three teams of little green men in west Africa, one in Guinea, one in Liberia, and one in Sierra Leone, the Russians' little green men are in Guinea, while the Americans are apparently on the golf course (or in the bathtub again) after apparently pulling out of Sierra Leone.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:44 | 5200076 nmewn
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Well just damn, I thought the face of evil plundering natural resources from "brown skinned people" on the entire planet was an American face!

Huh...I guess we got some catchin up to do ;-)

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:48 | 5200096 Urban Redneck
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Well at least Obozo is sending an inflatable hospital/big top tent, that comes with a whopping 20 beds at a cost of $1 million per bed... so now Africans can experience (suffer) Obamacare too, when what they really need is $20 cots, latex gloves, tyvek coveralls and paper respirators.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:08 | 5200190 nmewn
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And diapers & a furnace for cremation from what I understand.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 08:26 | 5201182 IndyPat
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Better turn up the volume to 11.

Send butt plugs and Napalm.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:00 | 5200392 BraveSirRobin
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..."while the Americans are apparently on the golf course (or in the bathtub again) after apparently pulling out of Sierra Leone." 

I think you have typo and meant to write ..."after apparently pulling out of Reggie Love."

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:09 | 5199916 Platinum
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Ebola-Chan working overtime.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/809/306/886.jpg

 

Edit: I think the big secret is that it is airborne.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:23 | 5199958 knukles
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That's no secret!  It always has been airborne, every other previous outbreak it has been documented.  Ignoring History is a Bitch  (Go back to the original Reston documentation... not the book, the real documentation... was concluded it was AIRBORNE)  But oh no, political correctness demands we take a soft, caring hand of mercy to the sick and ill... when they have to be eradicated!  This thing is alive and senses food, it gravitates to it, consumes it and has only one job, genetically hard wired... to kill the host and multiply.  It is insidious.  It might as well Truly Be From Hell.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:41 | 5200067 Platinum
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I should have put secret in quotes. The mainstream media sites are the one place that doesn't mention that fact, so it is effectively a secret to the (m)asses.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 23:14 | 5200625 IridiumRebel
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"Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 06:19 | 5201008 Schlomo Bergstein
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Good luck ebola chan!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:11 | 5199931 wizardofOZ
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Yesterday in Liberia: Man standing on the street suddenly began to vomit blood

 

http://i.imgur.com/9U0PEJ3.jpg

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:13 | 5199939 STG5IVE
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Gene Simmons

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:15 | 5199954 Platinum
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Probably dead today. That looks horrific.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:25 | 5199971 knukles
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If he was not torched, he will have infected hundreds with just one other person in contact, in error, exponentially.
FFS, the care givers, doctors and nurses are getting the shit and they have some forms of protection.

There is no way that ZMAPP did not have this up front to have the "vaccine" to respond.
This has all the hallmarks of a population experiment gone real fucking wrong.

And don't forget, we've already done this sort of thing many many times
And who is the intellect that decided to bring sick people back here?

Ludicrous!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 20:56 | 5200131 Implied Violins
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I'm getting one of these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_flamethrower

Strap that thing on and warn anyone within 50 feet they better stay the FUCK away, or their dentists will tell the coroner not to bother with ID. Too bad it only has seven minutes worth of fuel...think I'll carry a few extra gallons, just to make sure.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:14 | 5200210 Miffed Microbio...
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You're going to need a bigger boat.

May I suggest you watch Alien tonight? Label the Alien as Ebola and the man with the flame incinerating unit as You...Any questions?

Miffed;-)

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 01:38 | 5200830 Parrotile
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>> You're going to need a bigger boat.

Seeing as you'll be spending a lot of time aboard, and you'll be relying on your "floating home" as the key element of your survival programme, the following might be useful

1. Long-keel design (more tolerant of grounding, usually better ballast ratio, more directional stability).

2. Twin-Mast configuration (smaller individual sail areas, easier to manage sailplan if short-handed, and reduced likelihood of catastrophic dismasting.

3. Grey / Black water tanks should be easily cleaned to "potable water standard", and be readily interlinked. Whilst the "Environmental Police" are really keen to limit "recreational water pollution", we're looking at a survival situation here, so you WILL need ALL available water storage capacity.

4. Combination of Solar PV and wind generation, and PLENTY of reserve AH capacity in the House battery bank.

5. You WILL have upgraded all lighting (including nav. lights) to LED - longer lasting, less power drain.

6. Radar DETECTOR: 'cause you might need to know if people are looking for "easy victims of piracy", and forewarned is forearmed . . . . . .

7. Weapon systems of choice (depending on your Country of Registration).

8. Compact but spacious skiff with demountable mast, that may be towed behind "home". Makes it far easier if you need to moor offshore, since you can use the skiff to sail ashore rather than have to row!.

Add in the usual extras (radios, nav. gear (you can never have too many charts!) safety gear, food (frozen, tinned and dried)), and you should be OK, quite possibly for months on end, if you provision / plan fairly thoroughly.

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 21:37 | 5200298 Raynja
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There was a vaccine for ebola that was announced yesterday.

They have been testing it in monkeys.

They claim it has kept the monkeys ebola free for 10 months.

 

 So, they claim that they have been testing the vaccine for longer than the current outbreak.....

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 22:05 | 5200412 BraveSirRobin
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Ebola has been around for a long time. The US government had been very concerned about its potential as a terrorist biological weapon and has funded various vaccination research programs for over 10 years. None are proven to work on humans. One problem is that monkeys are of course not human. The other is that differences in strains used for research may be different from the current strain and make the vaccine inneffective. Time, however, to bypass protocols and try field trials. Don't see how it could hurt.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 07:39 | 5201098 Urban Redneck
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There are about half dozen publicly disclosed potential ebola vaccines or cures around right now. The USSA, and its vassal states, are the only ones jumping through hoops to hype supposedly "private sector" solutions, the other countries are simply being more discrete, both respect with to origin and possible efficacy in humans.

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