MH17 Was Struck By Multiple "High-Energy Objects From Outside The Aircraft", Crash Report Reveals

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Over a month after the crash of flight MH 17 over east Ukraine, and with the confiscated Air Traffic Control voice recording still kept confidential by a western-led task force for reasons unknown, overnight the Dutch Safety Board released its preliminary report on the causes of the crash. As the AP reported, it agency "stopped short of saying the Boeing 777 was shot down by a missile, but its findings appear to point to that conclusion. It also did not say who might have been responsible." Actually, what the Dutch report did say is the following: MH17 was struck by multiple "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft," causing it to break up over eastern Ukraine, a preliminary report into the deadly aviation disaster concluded Tuesday.

From the report: "The damage observed in the forward section of the aircraft appears to indicate that the aircraft was penetrated by a large number of high-energy objects from outside the aircraft," the report said. "It is likely that this damage resulted in a loss of structural integrity of the aircraft, leading to an in-flight break up."

In essence what the board "reported" is what has been widely known by now: "The initial results of the investigation point toward an external cause of the MH17 crash," the board's chairman, Tjibbe Joustra, said in a statement. "More research will be necessary to determine the cause with greater precision. The Safety Board believes that additional evidence will become available for investigation in the period ahead.... Detailed examination of the structural damage is ongoing," the report said. "Forensic examination will be performed if the wreckage can be removed."

Not unexpectedly, by the time the Dutch conclude their report, nobody will care about MH 17 and the current Ukraine civil war foreplay will be long forgotten, having been either long since resolved or grown into something much bigger. To wit:

The board is leading the international investigation into the cause of the disaster. Its full report is expected within a year of the crash.

But while the report itself was largely neutral as expected for a preliminary report, the "experts" promptly jumped in to steer the discussion in the desired direction, starting with Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott who said, "The findings are consistent with the government's statement that MH17 was shot down by a large surface-to-air missile."

Another that saw in the report what he wanted to see was Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, who "welcomed the report, saying in a written statement that its key conclusion "leads to the strong suspicion that a surface-to-air missile brought MH17 down, but further investigative work is needed before we can be certain." Well at least he covered his bases by saying his conclusion is not really based on anything in the actual report.

Yet other, supposedly credible voices also took over "concluding" what was a very inconclusive report: next cited was an "aviation safety specialist" at Yates Consulting, Christopher Yates, who told the AP the report "is extremely consistent with damage from a missile for the simple reason there are penetration marks.

"It must have been moving at very high velocity to create the damage," he said. "It could only be a missile of the type that would reach the altitude that would have struck the aircraft, potentially a Buk missile. He said the report gave no indication whether the missile had been fired from the ground or from another aircraft, but it likely came from the ground as there were no military aircraft known to have been flying at the time. The missile could not have been shoulder-fired because it would not have reached the necessary altitude, he added.

So if it is so clear that a Rebel-fired missile destroyed the airplane, we should look forward to the undoctored ATC recordings finally beings released to the public? After all, they have been held in secret custody longer even than the MH 370 ATC recordings, another plane whose fate is still a mystery.

Finally, we are stunned that nobody has observed the obvious: "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft" like for example... bullets? As in a warplane-fired volley of high-powered bullets. Curiously, there is not even a single mention of the word "bullet" in the entire 34 page report: apparently even the mere possibility of such an "high-energy object" is too inconceivable to even consider?

Then again, one can see why this possibility was not even mentioned by the experts, the politicians and the pundits: for the simple reason that should bullets be noted as a culprit, that would immediately put all the blame on the Kiev government as only a Ukraine warplane could have shot down the Malaysian Boeing 777 over Ukraine airspace.

But we are confident this possibility will be extensively covered in the final Dutch Board report, some time in late 2015 or 2016, by which point we can only hope the ATC recording which may just reveal why the airplane was redirected, will be finally released...

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Update: it appears that at least a part of the ATC transcript has been released and can be found in the report as follows:

This is the transcript immediately surrounding the crash and confirms the redirection from Dnipropetrovs’k air traffic control centre (Dnipro Radar) "due to traffic." From the report:

At the time of the occurrence flight MH17 was under control of Dnipropetrovs’k air traffic control centre (Dnipro Radar). Shortly after 13.20 hrs, both Ukraine and Russian Federation Radar lost contact with the aircraft. The last radio transmission made by the crew began at 13.19:56 hrs and ended at 13.19:59 hrs. Dnipropetrovs’k air traffic control centre made a radio transmission to flight MH17 which began at 13.20:00 hrs and ended at 13.20:05 hrs. The crew did not respond to this transmission or subsequent transmissions. No distress message was received from the aircraft at any point in time by ATC.

What is not disclosed is the actual transcript that notes the path redirection. Instead the Dutch report reveals the following in paraphrase:

According to the flight plan, flight MH17 would initially fly at Flight Level 330 (FL330)5 above Ukraine until the waypoint PEKIT, which is on the Flight Information Region (FIR) boundary between Kiev FIR (UKBV) and Dnipropetrovs’k FIR (UKDV). From waypoint PEKIT the flight plan indicates FL350 for the remaining part over Ukraine.

 

According to ATC data, at 12.53 hrs the aircraft was flying within the Dnipropetrovs’k FIR, Control Sector 2, at FL330, controlled by Dnipro Control. At that time, Dnipro Control asked whether MH17 was able to climb to FL350 in accordance with the flight plan of MH17 and also to clear a potential separation conflict with other traffic in the area, another Boeing 777 flying at FL330 and approaching from behind.

 

The crew replied they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at FL330. This was agreed by Dnipro Control. As an alternative to solve the separation conflict, the other traffic climbed to FL350. According to ATC data, at 13.00 hrs the crew of flight MH17 requested to divert the track 20 NM to the left, due to weather. This also was agreed by Dnipro Control, after which the crew requested whether FL340 was available. Dnipro control informed MH17 that FL340 was not available at that moment and instructed the flight to maintain FL330 for a while. At 13.07 hrs the flight was transferred to Dnipropetrovs’k CTA 4, also with call sign Dnipro Control.

The provided map, which however fails to note any military aircraft in the vicinity, something that the Russians had supposedly caught on their radar.

And previously from Russia:


Here is a screengrab of a Su-25 fighter jet detected close to MH17 before crash.

Considering the seriousness of this redirection and the pilot's alleged "inability" to comply, it would be far more useful if the Dutch Safety Board would release this part of the transcript as it certainly will reveal much more than the part of the conversation that is already well known.

And some more from the report, first on the fate of the Flight Recorders:

The flight recorders were not recovered from the wreckage site by investigators of the Annex 13 investigation team, but individuals unknown to the team took them from the site. On 21 July 2014, the recorders were handed over to a Malaysian official in Donetsk by representatives of the armed group controlling the area. The recorders were transported by train from Donetsk to Kharkiv in custody of a Malaysian official and accompanied by Dutch officials and then transported to Kiev also in custody of a Malaysian official and accompanied by Dutch and ICAO officials. In Kiev the recorders were handed over to the Dutch Safety Board on 22 July 2014.

 

Immediately after the handover to the Dutch Safety Board, the recorders were transported to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch’s laboratory at Farnborough, United Kingdom, accompanied by an international team of air safety investigators from Germany, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and representatives of ICAO. At Farnborough a French investigator joined the team whereupon the work to download the data of both recorders was started. Later on an air safety investigator of the Interstate Aviation Committee also joined the team.

 

No evidence or indications of manipulation of the recorders were found.

The Cockpit Voice Recorder:

The housing of the CVR (figure 4) had been damaged and, although the model and serial numbers were unreadable on the data plate, the serial number 1366 - matching the one provided by Malaysia Airlines - was found stamped on the underside of the chassis. The external damage found on the CVR is consistent with impact damage, the internal memory module was intact. The recording capacity of this recorder is 30 minutes.

 

The full 30 minutes were successfully downloaded and contained valid data from the flight.

 

The replay of the CVR matched ATC communications with the aircraft (see ATC transcript). The recording also included crew communication which gave no indication that there was anything abnormal with the flight. The CVR audio recording ended abruptly. A replay of the CVR did not identify any aircraft aural warnings or alerts of system malfunctions. Detailed analysis is ongoing.

 

No aural warnings or alerts of aircraft system malfunctions were heard on the cockpit voice recording, which ended at 13.20:03 hrs. Crew communication gave no indication that there was anything abnormal with the flight.

Finally, data on the wreckage:

Wreckage distribution

 

Wreckage from flight MH17 was discovered spread over a large area near the towns of Rozsypne and Hrabove in eastern Ukraine. The main wreckage site was located 8.5 km on a bearing of 080° from the last known position of the aircraft in flight. On the accident site, a large amount of photographs was made, which allowed identification of certain aircraft parts, including preliminary assessments of localization and the nature of damage on the fuselage skin and the engines.

The aircraft wreckage, identified from the on-site photographs and satellite images, consisted of many large and small pieces distributed over an area of approximately 10 km by 5 km (figure 6). Fuselage pieces, cargo and baggage were scattered throughout the wreckage site. There were many additional unidentified pieces that are not shown in the figure. For easy reference the wreckage site has been divided into sections as shown in figure 6. These sections match with the aircraft sections shown in figure 7.

 

 

Some pictures of relevant parts of which the location was known, are discussed hereinafter.

 

Cockpit and forward area damage

 

Large parts from around the cockpit and forward section were found in the area closest to the last recorded FDR position (figure 6). Among these parts were portions of the cockpit, the forward cargo bay floor and the cockpit side wall. The remains of the cockpit were located at the southern end of Rozsypne, 2.3 km east from the last recorded FDR position.

 

Photographs from the some wreckage showed that a number of pieces contained multiple holes and indentations. An example of a piece of wreckage containing such damage was a piece of skin from below the left cockpit window (figure 8) found in the town of Petropavlivka.

 

 

Around 1.7 km north of the position where the cockpit window structure was found, was a section of the cockpit roof also showing holes indicating penetration from outside (figure 9).

 

 

Noting that the investigation team has not yet had the opportunity to recover these components for forensic examination, photographs from the wreckage indicated that the material around the holes was deformed in a manner consistent with being punctured by high-energy objects. The characteristics of the material deformation around the puncture holes appear to indicate that the objects originated from outside the fuselage.

Full report below (link to original):


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countryboy42's picture

You are a fucking idiot. The a-10c photo you show as "proof" was hit by a SAM, NOT from 30 mm cannon rounds. Grow a brain, then get back to us.

Edit, if they are bullet holes, they came from a ZSU-23, firing a 23 mm round. This photo has been around for a bit showing how the 'Hog can take damage (from a SAM) and still return the pilot home alive.

Not too many  a-10 drivers are going to allow a side aspect to a ZSU-23.

uistbhoy's picture

fecal matter found in forested areas suspected to have been deposited by furry mammals

nathan1234's picture

It's very clear and evident that the investigators report has Holes in it, that they have Holes in their head ( their brains have oozed out) for not recogonising the bullet entry exit Holes in the cockpit.

A real Holey Report

Holy Mother of God

Chuck Knoblauch's picture

Holy Fuselage, Batman!

There be holes here!

MeBizarro's picture

Click bait by the Tylers.  Dutch report findings are pretty clear and it essentially says a missile brought down MH17.  Other outstanding issues including who fired the missile, was it accidental, and the NATO/Kiev bait the Russians into firing on it aren't obviously answered. 

Still think it was the Russian-led troops who fired it but that they were duped by a Ukrainian fighter jet flying very close in the vicinity of the MH17 and masking its signal.  

False flag?  Grey area but it certainly was not a malicious act to intentionally shoot down a commerical airliner either. 

uistbhoy's picture

I'm sorry but that's not clear from the report at all as I read it. "High-energy objects" is as specific as it gets.

Could you perhaps cite where it is clear in the report that it was a missile?

Bankster Kibble's picture

That does not fit with what a German pilot said, who looked at the holes and said they were from machine guns.  The metal bending in and out of the cockpit walls indicated bullets flying through the cockpit from opposite sides.

crazybob369's picture

Yes, a new type of missile that breaks up into 100's of smaller 'bullet' missiles before striking the target. Nasty weapon!

Rootin' for Putin's picture

Maybe it was a Joe Biden approved shotgun missile?

Uskatex's picture

Maybe others already posted it, but here you can find a very thorough report that suggests that in fact MH17 was shot down by a BUK, but the BUK was Ukrainan:

http://www.tlaxcala-int.org/upload/telechargements/135.pdf

ChargingHandle's picture

Either way, the plane was shot down by accident. The perpetrators were not aware that the plane was non military. In my opinion, the only bizarre part of this whole story was the world effort to indict Russia for it without any evidence being released yet. Why is this?

TicoTiger's picture

Bird strikes caused this sad event.

Russian high altitude suicide pigeons obviously released by Putin while flying his plane nearby. 

 

marcusfenix's picture

more than likely the truth about what happened to flight 17 will never be known. pictures can be minipulated, reports can be falsified, coversations can be altered or made up to say whatever one might want them to. once again the truth will be a victim of arrogent and powerful men and we will be left to speculate until flight 17 dissapears down the memory hole.

as a friend of mine once said "you don't have to commit the perfect crime to get away with it, you just have to be inside of the investigation afterwords."

there is no way for any of us regular blokes here on the outside to verify that anything that has been reported on this issue is in any way the truth. and to place trust in the media who's sole purpose for existing is to minipulate public opinion and shape the course of events through propaganda just defies even the most basic tennants of common sense. the only truth we will ever know on this is those little bits and shreds that support the narritive the PTBs are trying to build.

still, for whatever reason I feel that somehow the two MA incidents this year are connected. I have no idea how, a passenger, some cargo maybe but something just keeps gnawing at me that two tragic ends to two flights from the same airline is not a coincidence.

something also tells me that the way flight 17 went down was not a matter of mistaken identity or accidential in any way. it was deliberatly planned and coldly excecuted operation but perhaps not for the reasons which are most obvious. perhaps where the plane was at the time was really nothing more that a gloden oppertunity to cover up it's dispatching in the "fog of war".

in other words, what if neither the rebels, Russians or Ukrainian forces shot that plane down? what if somebody else did it using this conflict as the perfect cover? after all you can't have two planes simply disappear from the face of the earth without calling unwanted attention. to what point and purpose, why these two MH flights meet such fates is perhaps where the truth of all this can be found.

the truth is out there...but what chance does it have of being reveled, drowing in a tide of endless minipulations and lies? 

Ides of November's picture

Why Malaysian Airlines (owned by the Malaysian Government of course)?

Good question.

There are a few things that point to none of this being an accident. In any sense.

First up, and providing a good pretext for "Revenge" - the Malaysian indictment at the Kuala War Crimes Tribunal of the likes of Israel, George Bush, dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld & Co. for War Crimes.

Read up on it here and in many other places on the Net.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-war-crimes-tribunal-bush-convi...

So there is that.

And why else would Malaysia be targeted????

Straits of Malacca. This is a massive choke point for China for Chinese energy supplies.

Malaysia has traditionally been a non-aligned country. If Malaysia could be scared by perhaps "brutal means" to abandon non-alignment and join the "West" Malaysia could in future could become a vital choke point in any future conflict against China.

But why would Ukrainian fascists shoot down a Malaysian airliner? Well they wouldn't would they, unless someone advised them that a Malaysian Airliner would be a good target.....

Who would advise them of such???? Well, the immediate obvious candidates are the CIA/US MIC "Deep State" or perhaps a dual citizen Ukrainian Oligarch.

Look no further than Ihor Kolomoisky. Dual citizen of? Ukraine & Israel - and worth billions.

And where is his power base in Ukraine??????

Well - just happens to be Dnipropetrovsk - the relevant Air Traffic Controller.

All very neat when you start looking at it in depth isn't it.

I expect at some point Poroshenko or others will throw Kolomoisky under the bus for MH17. But having this dirt on him is very useful in the mean-time isn't it.

hoist the bs flag's picture

I got excited when I saw "High Energy" in the headline...I was thinking lasers or photon beams... I am really disappointed now.

JimmyRainbow's picture

as soon as i read "structural integrity" in a text i am back in 9/11 watching the towerr events live in stock exchange and the guy at that time jumping out of the crowd telling the reporters that the "structural integrity" of the towers was lost and that was the reason for the collapse.

hit in the front and then broken apart? that does not sound like a missile, guess they are programmed to get hte body or machines, not the nose.

that sounds more like a machine gun silenced the pilots first. metal pieces can be analyzed, there will be leftovers which may prove rocket(type) or gun, did not happen up to now.

in german msm there is master doubt if there were military planes near.

kchrisc's picture

Spin, lies and bullshit have me dizzy. Can I get off the ride now?!

A dizzy American, not US subject.

dizzyfingers's picture

One wonders why flight from Amsterdam to KL was "according to flight plan" to fly via Ukrania... 

Flightmapper shows the usual route: http://info.flightmapper.net/route/YY_AMS_KUL

Scribid, on the route: "Amsterdam Airport Schiphol in the Netherlands at 10.31 hrs on a scheduled passenger ?ight to Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia. Malaysia Airlines had determined and ?led the ?ight plan for ?ight MH17, which was approved by all involved air traf?c control centres for their concerned regions. According to the ?ight plan, ?ight MH17 would initially ?y at Flight Level 330 (FL330) above Ukraine until the waypoint PEKIT, which is on the Flight Information Region (FIR) boundary between Kiev FIR (UKBV) and Dnipropetrovs’k FIR (UKDV). From waypoint PEKIT the ?ight plan indicates FL350 for the remaining part over Ukraine.According to ATC data, at 12.53 hrs the aircraft was ?ying within the Dnipropetrovs’k FIR, Control Sector 2, at FL330, controlled by Dnipro Control. At that time, Dnipro Control asked whether MH17 was able to climb to FL350 in accordance with the ?ight plan of MH17 and also to clear a potential separation con?ict with other traf?c in the area, another Boeing 777 ?ying at FL330 and approaching from behind.The crew replied they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at FL330. This was agreed by Dnipro Control. As an alternative to solve the separation con?ict, the other traf?c climbed to FL350. According to ATC data, at 13.00 hrs the crew of ?ight MH17 requested to divert the track 20 NM to the left, due to weather. This also was agreed by Dnipro Control, after which the crew requested whether FL340 was available. Dnipro control informed MH17 that FL340 was not available at that moment and instructed the ?ight to maintain FL330 for a while. At 13.07 hrs the ?ight was transferred to Dnipropetrovs’k CTA 4, also with call s ign Dnipro Control.At 13.19:53 hrs, radar data showed that the aircraft was 3.6 NM north of centreline of airway L980 having deviated left of track, when Dnipro Control directed the crew to alter their route directly to waypoint RND due to other traf?c. The crew acknowledged at 13.19:56 hrs. At 13.20:00 hrs, Dnipro Control transmitted an onward ATC clearance to proceed direct to TIKNA after RND, no acknowledgement was received. Data from the Flight Data Recorder a nd the Digital Cockpit Voice Recorder both stopped at 13.20:03 hrs. No distress messages were received from the aircraft."

 

 

 

MarsInScorpio's picture

Clearly, photographic evidence proves the plane suffered a barrage of 30 mm cannon fire exclusively in the cockpit area; these penetrations are identical to the guns used on the Ukrainian SU-25 the Russians tracked tailing the flight. One photo even shows the grazed mark on the left wing of one of the projectiles.

If the Dutch told the truth, it would result in the overthrow of the government, and the overthrow of others in the EU. NATO would be totally discredited and there would to calls to execute the junta's leadership in Kiev as war criminals.

To use the quote of a former EU president - "When it's really bad, you have to lie."

Well, it's really bad, and the Dutch are lying.

And the western media are lying along with them.

Questions the Dutch - and the western MSM propaganda hacks - won't answer:

1) Why haven't the air traffic control tapes been released?

2) Why weren't the cockpit conversations from the "black box" released with this preliminary report?

3) Why was the plane diverted 300 miles north to purposely fly over a combat zone?

4) Why have absolutely NO missile parts been found anywhere? (They don't vaporize . . .)

5) Why are there no other penetrations except into the cockpit (Missiles throw shrapnel everywhere . . )

6) Why were the Russian's publicly released radar trackings ignored? (Not trustworthy? And the CIA/NSA, and the Ukrainian NAZIs are . . . ?)

7) Why hasn't the 30mm cannon fire theory been tested for credibility? (Afraid of the results proving it is true?)

8) Why has the Spanish air traffic controller on-duty who ordered the flight change been hidden away by the Ukrainian secret police? Why haven't the Dutch interviewed him? (In fact, is he even alive?)

9) Ever seen what happens when a surface to air missile hits its target? It explodes in a massive fireball (check any YouTube video to see it for yourself). Why has not one single witness reported seeing the fireball if this is a missile attack? (Uh, because it isn't a missile attack . . ?)

10) Why have no smoke trails ever been reported - smoke trails that every missile leaves as a track of its ascent towards its target? (Again, because there never was a missile fired . . )

11) Why has the US - which had a spy satellite directly over the incident (gee, what a coincidence . . .) - refused to release the photos of the incident?

There are more questions, and the EU/US/NATO powers are terrified to face them. They know that if the truth of the plane being shot down by the Ukrainian SU-25 gets out - the civic revulsion will turn the current political situation in these countries upside down. Leaders, proven to be liars and puppets of the US, will hang.

Before you swallow any more western lies, make your leaders answer these questions first.

Then ask them why they won't.

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bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 Why haven't the air traffic control tapes been released?

12) Why have none of the European governments, their Western allies and their media been stone silent about the unreleased tapes?

MH17 was struck by multiple "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft,"

By saying multiple high energy objects and not shrapnel, in the event the truth is eventually revealed about the cause of the destruction of MH17, the weasle, Mark Rutte, can say "We never said it wasn't cannon fire.  We said it was "multiple high energy objects. Which includes cannon fire."

MarsInScorpio's picture

bid:

 

Great point - I'm adding it to my list.

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Rootin' for Putin's picture

Yes, more often the answer is in what they didnt say.

kianator's picture

Looks like shrapnel holes to me from a missle.  Of course, what do I know?  I am from the U.S. and part of the conspiracy against Russia!  :-) Yeah right!

 

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

What about the photos of the fuselage with holes that look like cannon fire?

Oh, didn't they release them?  

They probably will in a year. After making it look like the separatists and Russia brought down MH17 for now.  

After Mark Rutte's lies pay off for the other liars and thieves that run the West.

Flying Wombat's picture

MH-17: Dutch Safety Board Report Doesn’t Appear To Support Claim Of Missile Shoot-Down

TND Exclusive: By Eric Dubin

http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=209530

tony wilson's picture

looking at nikola tesla and his mind boggling array of patents we do get a glimpse at the future.

high energy weapons systems based on tesla are here now.

here doctor evelyn thomas world authority on resonance,direct and high energy weapons gives a breakdown of all possibilites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdgW3bkHaHI

prymythirdeye's picture

More bullshit to go with the original bullshit story.  They're not done wringing this one out for all its worth.

sleepingbeauty's picture

At the beginning of this they said that it was in Ukrainian restricted airspace. Judging from the airflight path with other planes all around it doesn't seem that that was the case, right? So Malaysian air did nothing wrong except be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Anunnaki's picture

In other shocking news. Water is found to be wet. What's the Malay word for
"poodle". The Malaysians should be screaming for more than being Obama's bitch. Looks like the Malays talk the talk on things like war crimes in GAza but don't walk the walk when Obama and his crew kill dozens of Malays and a second lost jet liner

Razak should demand the audio transcripts of the Air Traffic Control tapes. "Just to be sure it was a surface to air missle". What a traitor to his people. Malays should be embarassed by such gov'tal "eunuchery"

Arf Arf goe the Malays

Anunnaki's picture

This is starting to look like a third rate Tom Clancy movie.

no1wonder's picture

Boeing crash investigation report hides truth (published 09.09.2014)

http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/09-09-2014/128484-boeing_crash_report-0/

David Wooten's picture

MSM not reporting much about this one way or the other.  Nothing on MarketWatch or Drudge.  Guess they don't want any questions raised.

Rootin' for Putin's picture

I didnt realise how lucky the folks on Singapore 351 were.  They missed being the lowest flight out there by moments.

conscious being's picture

Only Malaysian Airlines is targeted because the country had the audacity to call a Zino a Zino. See recent UN court deciisions against Israel for war crimes in the Gaza slaughter that preceeded the most recdnt Gaza slaughter and another against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al. for Iraq. Courts were located in Kuala Lumpor, Malaysia. Singapore is kind of an Asian Zino outpost so unlike Malasia, no dirty plays to murder their people.

 

NoWayJose's picture

CIA did a nice job screening all the data in order to release just enough to keep the finger pointed at Russia - but no information that can be disproved or shown to be falsified. Really doubtful we will get much more.

talisman's picture

 

some excellent highly detailed photos of the MH-17 bullethole damage:

http://ronaldwederfoort.blogspot.com/2014/08/cis-plane-mh-17-was-brought-down-by.html

 

Malaysia Airlines MH17:Canadian Broadcast Michael Bociurkiw talks about being first at the crash site
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh17-michael-bociurkiw-talks-about-being-first-at-the-crash-site-1.2721007

 

talisman's picture

also:

 

Malaysian Airlines plane crash: Russian military unveil data on MH17 incident over Ukraine (FULL)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bNPInuSqfs

talisman's picture

whoever paid for this worthless report
got screwed bigtime

talisman's picture

"multiple high-energy objects from outside the aircraft"

now at least we know why the MH17 crashed..