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Ron Paul On Nixon's Legacy: The Imperial Presidency

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

Forty years ago many Americans celebrated the demise of the imperial presidency with the resignation of Richard Nixon. Today it is clear they celebrated too soon. Nixon’s view of presidential powers, summed up in his infamous statement that, “when the president does it that means it is not illegal,” is embraced by the majority of the political class. In fact, the last two presidents have abused their power in ways that would have made Nixon blush.

For example, Nixon’s abuse of the Internal Revenue Service to persecute his political opponents was the subject of one of the articles of impeachment passed by the US House of Representatives. As bad as Nixon’s abuse of the IRS was, he was hardly the first president to use the IRS this way, and the present administration seems to be continuing this tradition. The targeting of Tea Party groups has received the most attention, but it is not the only instance of the IRS harassing President Barack Obama’s political opponents. For example, the IRS has demanded that one of my organizations, Campaign for Liberty, hand over information regarding its major donors.

Nixon’s abuse of federal power to spy on his “enemies” was abhorrent, but Nixon’s abuses of civil liberties pale in comparison to those of his successors. Today literally anyone in the world can be spied on, indefinitely detained, or placed on a presidential “kill list” based on nothing more than a presidential order. For all his faults, Nixon never tried to claim the power to unilaterally order anyone in the world detained or killed.

Many today act as apologists for the imperial presidency. One reason for this is that many politicians place partisan concerns above loyalty to the Constitution. Thus, they openly defend, and even celebrate, executive branch power grabs when made by a president of their own party.

Another reason is the bipartisan consensus in support of the warfare state. Many politicians and intellectuals in both parties support an imperial presidency because they recognize that the Founders’ vision of a limited executive branch is incompatible with an aggressive foreign policy. When Republicans are in power “neoconservatives” take the lead, while when Democrats are in power “humanitarian interventionists" take the lead. Regardless of party or ideological label, they share the same goal — to protect the executive branch from being constrained by the constitutional requirement that the president seek congressional approval before waging war.

The strength of the bipartisan consensus that the president should have limitless discretion in committing troops to war is illustrated by the failure of an attempt to add an article dealing with Nixon's “secret bombing” of Cambodia to the articles of impeachment. Even at the low point of support for the imperial presidency, Congress still refused to rein in the president’s war-making powers.

The failure to include the Cambodia invasion in the articles of impeachment may well be the main reason Watergate had little to do with reining in the imperial presidency. Because the imperial presidency is rooted in the war power, attempts to rein in the imperial presidency that do not work to restore Congress’ constitutional authority to declare war are doomed to fail.

Repealing Nixon’s legacy requires building a new bipartisan coalition in favor of peace and civil liberties, rejecting what writer Gene Healy calls “the cult of the presidency,” and placing loyalty to the Constitution above partisanship. An important step must be restoring congressional supremacy in matters of war and peace.

 

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Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:15 | 5197852 Skateboarder
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Restore congressional supremacy to a corrupt and bought-out congress? What great delusion...

I agree with the principle, but you need a fresh set of people with uncompromising morals, not slimy lizards.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:19 | 5197872 Pinto Currency
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The limits of Nixon's illegality were not present because of his own ethics but what Nixon thought he could get away with.

It's a mistake to touch Nixon's legacy; let it be.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:24 | 5197911 SMG
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One day we are going to look back on our decimated cities and destroyed civilization and say: "Why didn't we listen to Ron Paul?"

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:50 | 5198005 pods
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One question Dr. Paul:

Is the US government in fact just a board in charge of a bankrupt government and not a functioning Republic?

If so, we all appreciate that you came forth and said so. (sarcasm)

And thank you James Trafficant.

pods

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:51 | 5198010 NidStyles
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Nixon is a hush puppy compared to Vader. 

 

 

P.S. Dr Paul likes living as much as the rest of us. Being openly vocal about the truth would be a suicide mission for any standing politician. JFK was an example, right?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:00 | 5198070 Hephaestus
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Carlin covered this with total clarity.

http://youtu.be/9etoocgcWm8

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:12 | 5198132 JRobby
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Miss him

The best ever

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:32 | 5198226 Ignatius
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The 'Imperial President' is a product of the powerful private interests who put them in office.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:56 | 5198669 MalteseFalcon
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Nixon, the original RINO and NWO water boy, deserved jail.

But don't forget LBJ begat Nixon.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:04 | 5198089 Chupacabra-322
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Dr. Paul is aware.

Begin Traficant speech on the floor of the House of Representatives:

The Bankruptcy of The United States United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303 The Speaker is Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11... Members of Congress areofficial trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of anyBankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, ablueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise.It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congressional session, June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend the Gold Standard and AbrogateThe Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States , Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departmentsare now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established ocialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?' . . . Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations. . . . The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government.. . . Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)"hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant,franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust viahis/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United Stateshypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets andlabor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to theFederal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federalUnited States corporation all the credit "money substitute" itneeded. Like any other debtor, the federal United States governmenthad to assign collateral and security to their creditors as acondition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn't haveany assets, they assigned the private property of their "economicslaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayablefederal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federalterritories, national parks forests, birth certificates, andnonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution,feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the commonpeople had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again,We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank.We the people have exchanged one master for another. This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it's easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.Why don't more people own their properties outright? Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less? We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest isa painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property,precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it. America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country." END OF TRAFICANT'S REMARKS

http://www.dailypaul.com/67591/who-remembers-congressman-jim-traficant

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:15 | 5198111 JRobby
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What was that part in the middle?

"The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund."

Yea, these guys. Let's kill the fuck out of everyone on this list

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:10 | 5198126 Chupacabra-322
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My comments: In a nutshell, the super Criminal President Franklin D.Roosevelt, front man for the Rothschild banksters, signed a law putting the US into bankruptcy in 1933, and gave all property and future
possessions and property of all the citizens and future citizens to the Rothschild banksters, making us all serfs who own nothing.

These are the same banksters who are now pillaging the USA through"our" pathetic and criminal Congress.Of course, this is all paper fiction which can be undone as easily as it was done. That's why we're directing people to the Precinct System to take back the country in 2010.We can declare these Money Changer laws null and void, and arrest all those who are still alive. And then put the monetary system in the hands of men who will serve the people and the nation, -- instead of ruthlessly exploiting the nation for their own profit and lust for power.

Congressman Traficant sits in jail still for saying such things as above, as well as winning some decisive battles against the Neo-Con Jewish Crime Syndicate who are the International Banksters who oppress our country and mankind..

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:18 | 5198162 JRobby
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"Neo-Con Jewish Crime Syndicate"

Now we are getting down to it aren't we. An actual discussion can begin.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:12 | 5198129 NoDebt
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OK, I think I got it.  But just in case, tell me everything again.  I wasn't listening.  

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:29 | 5198193 Chupacabra-322
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Simply put,

We have a Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. "posing" as a functional Government of the people, by the people & for the people Fruading The American People via their silence / Consent.

Much like the Criminal Federal Reserve uses the name Federal in their name to make it seem their a Branch of Government when they are not. The Criminal Federal Government uses the title of "Federal Government" in their name to make it seem its a Functioning Government when in reality it's a Criminal Corporation Chartered out of the State of Delaware.

There is a President only in name. We have a CONgress only in name. We we do have is Criminal CEO (President) & Board of Directors (CONgress) of a Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:53 | 5198321 pods
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Hey Chup, I saw the post was from the Daily Paul but have never heard RP actually speak about this.  Russo seemed to suprise him too with some questions in "Freedom to Fascism" IIRC.

I like what he espouses, but he acts like he was on the outside and he surely knows the secrets of the temple.  

idk, the more I think about RP the more I am seeing him as another safety valve on the system, whether it was his will or not.  

pods

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:20 | 5198473 Chupacabra-322
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He is a Mason, & perhaps controlled opposition. I'm sure with the Mason's "Hidden Knowledge" he is very fully aware of Temple Secrets especially with the Money Changers.

At the end of the day they're all "in on it" to one degree or another. It's a very Compartmentalized Step Pyramid Model of Authority based on Halgalian Dialect. It's literally Global Political Theater filled with Mind Control, PsyOp, False Narratives & Propaganda sprinkled in with Eugenics.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:22 | 5198182 JRobby
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The fate of many visionaries is stoning, drawn and quartering (four-folding for you urban hipsters!), hanging, assassination, sudden heart failure, unexplained boating accidents, small airplane crashes.............................

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:19 | 5197885 Deathrips
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Nixon was instructed to remove any accountability measure for the currency. Watergate was similar to the Clinton cigar fiasco after the deregulation of banks.

 

They dont work for the people and we cant fire them...they arent employees...right?

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:27 | 5197921 kchrisc
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Yup, going to require an era of the guillotine that will then usher in  a new crop of pols working for the American people not the Rothschilds and foreign powers.

An American, not US subject.

 

The Four Rs?
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying, quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:55 | 5198033 williambanzai7
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A great cull in Vichy DC and Harvard Soviet is what we need…

 

 

 

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Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:15 | 5197860 Pooper Popper
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Hang em High!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:16 | 5197863 DirkDiggler11
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Well, we already have the Wookie in the White House, why not Darth Vader too ...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:36 | 5197959 Grinder74
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You must be a Trekki since this makes no sense.  Darth Vader and Chewbacca were mortal enemies.  

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:26 | 5198189 JRobby
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Serious indiscretion there

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5197864 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Mr Paul is losing it

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:28 | 5197924 Spastica Rex
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Boy the way Glen Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:33 | 5197947 Mi Naem
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InTheLandOfTheBlind = that effeminate androgenoid off by himself in the corner at the party who holds the scented hanky up to his lips to titter at his own jokes 'cause no one else cares to listen.  

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:34 | 5198231 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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you stay up all night thinking that one out?  we could go back to the romney support but who needs evidence of senility when intellectual deniablity is the modus operandi? but besides that the biggest hurdle paul always faced in politics is the lack of decorum of his supporters...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:16 | 5198440 Mi Naem
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"you stay up all night thinking that one out? "  Spur of the moment inspiration from the object - glad d'ja liked it.  I'll be here all week ladies and gentlemen,  Thank ya very much. 

 

"the biggest hurdle paul always faced in politics is the lack of decorum of his supporters..." Unfortunately, there is a good deal of truth to that, but the MSM always looked for the opportunity to discredit, like with fictional Nazi crap.  Childish dopers and agitators such as those who chased Hannity across a parking lot (like any of them were man enough to do anything to that ahole) were problematic.  On the other hand, Romney could lay out some mighty good-lookin' AstroTurf.  That's why he did so well in the Virginia primary, even with MSM support. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:18 | 5197865 Pinto Currency
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Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5197867 kchrisc
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It started with the dictator Lincoln, was perfected by Wilson and FDR and then fully implemented by the coup of '63 against JFK.

An American, not US subject.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:56 | 5198962 pods
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JFK was whacked due to infighting by the different parts of the shadow governments.  
Collateral damage if you will.

pods 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:18 | 5199515 kchrisc
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JFK represented a threat to so much of the elite and their power structure, it is easier to list who DIDN'T have a reason not to kill him.

I think that that is why one sees the CIA wing of power working with the Pentagon wing. Working together until the Pentagon papers...

An American, not US subject.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5197868 Relentless101
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Congress is built with cowards. They claim to want the power, but know they don't have what it takes to make the correct call. I see no other rational solution for them allowing "executive action" continue to grow. They want to play all sides. The campaign never ends. FUCK YOU CONGRESS.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:33 | 5197942 Georgia_Boy
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They can't even do their most basic job, pass an annual budget.  They're on their way to irrelevance.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:27 | 5198197 JRobby
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They are Legislators, no?

THEN LEGISLATE YOU FUCKING SPINELESS WHORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5197869 world_debt_slave
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term limits

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:08 | 5198748 DollarMenu
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Beyond term limits, I think the entire congress should be drawn from a citizen pool, like juries.

One term and they are out. 

Screw voting, just random draws.

Couldn't be any worse could it?

Unless you are an international corporate/human enterprise, or a bankster.

There you might run into trouble as the randomly picked legislators might actually believe in laws and values, and just maybe, our Constitution.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:17 | 5198789 JimS
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I gave you a "greenie" on one condition: along with term limits, we eliminate all lobbyists. Make the congress people think for themselves, otherwise we will still have lobbyists writing all the laws. Also, it should be a requirement the ALL must read every piece of legislation from cover-to-cover (maybe passing a short quiz about its contents) before passing it.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5197871 NoDebt
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They ain't never rollin' that shit back.  Never.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 16:11 | 5199051 r0mulus
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They will, but it will require much blood to be shed to feed the tree of liberty.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:19 | 5197877 Pooper Popper
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Skateboarder,

Agree,except on the lizard...their more like a virus or a leach,or burnt toast....you just cant get rid of that SMELL!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:18 | 5197878 brown_hornet
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Libtard friends who think Nixon was the worst crook ever, think that its OK when Zero does the same things.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:28 | 5197908 NoDebt
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Most people just want to be on the winning side (or believe that they are).  They'll use all manner of rationalization and justification to avoid seeing any truth in those comparisons.  If you press hard, they'll eventually tell you they don't really care.  They just want it, and they don't give a shit what it takes to get it, or who gets hurt along the way.  The ends always justify the means in their thinking.

They're some of the most bitter, hateful people I've met, by and large.  Not on the surface, but down deep, they have issues.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:40 | 5197945 rqb1
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Nixon did his best in my opinion.  the USSR was a real deal back then, his main focus was defeating them.  most of what Reagan accomplished was due to Nixon's ground work.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:31 | 5198220 JRobby
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Through escalating arms spending, we spent until the USSR went broke. Reagan just happened to be the installed puppet at the time. Star Wars bitches!

We had a bigger credit card is all. The bankers made sure of that because all the "history" including the wall coming down was scripted by the bankster / oligarch elite.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:36 | 5198247 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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the entire watergate operation seemed as if the desired intent of the break in was the outcome of nixon resigning... yes i believe he was set up and i speculate that it was because he wasn't playing one-world ball... 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:19 | 5197879 Soul Glow
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Nixon won the "Biggest Duchebag in the Universe" award in '72, if I do recall.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:50 | 5198308 Mephistopheles
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When all the Nixon haters and Obama worshipers are dead; the historical analysis will show the superiority of the former over the later.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:20 | 5197890 verbot
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In 1971 Nixon got your gold right from underneath your guns and left your pockets full of paper..(great song lyric)
War on drugs to hollow out the emotional evolution away from central command/control politics.
Set the ground work for the fleecing to follow..
I would bet he had a lot of "dual citizen" agents in his close circle as well.
Just remember if you are not "All American" you are not American at all.
Get out the agents and traitors and nixon's legacy will fade...IMHO
End of line....

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:00 | 5198351 JRobby
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Set the ground work for the fleecing to follow.

Clinton - the final act: repeal of Glass-Steagall buttressed by the big oligarch push to prevent any and all regulation of derivatives markets.

POOOOF!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:21 | 5197892 gdiamond22
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power before party;party before country;tyranny before liberty 

 RHINO/Neo-Liberal Creed

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:21 | 5197895 Coletrane
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The problems which exist within the government today will never be changed at the ballot box. 

The problems will not go away with term limits.

 

The problems will continue and will become much worse until the people show their teeth. They may have to use them too. That is a long time from now though.

More's the pity, because the longer people take to face reality the worse it will be for our kids and grandkids.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:37 | 5198251 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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exactly... the problems are ethical in nature and no amount of morals will change the ethical reality of actions until there are consequences for those actions....  

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:22 | 5197900 vyeung
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Well, the fascist/Nazis are running the white house as the neocons are clearly out of drag and wearing their swastika with pride.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:23 | 5197905 vyeung
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The Banksters/cabal = Sith Lord(s)

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:39 | 5198259 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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yeah that's it life= star wars

 

/sarc off

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:56 | 5198337 JRobby
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Atreides vs. Harkonnen

Same story through out history bot real and imagined.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:06 | 5198369 LFMayor
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Fear is the mind killer.  Except for us, the noble harsh savages aren't so noble as the Fremen.  And in our "everyone bats, everyone scores, everyone wins" society, we're not exactly teaching the weirding ways.

Fire is what we need.  A purifying, cleansing fire, to make steel once more.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:30 | 5197934 HamRove
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How do you know when Ron Paul is Right?...........His lips are moving. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:32 | 5197943 Orwell was right
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Ron's analysis may be correct....(as far as it goes).....but the tone of this article implies that taking war powers away from the Presidency and giving them back to Congress, will somehow 'solve' something.    It won't.     Congress is broken!!      These idiots argue over meaningless crap to keep the general population convinced they are "doing something"....while behind the scenes both Democrat and Republican vote together to increase Federal power.   

Neither party has done a damn thing about the NSA\DEA\BATF\FDA\etc.   and their encroachment on individual rights.

Neither party has done a damn thing about curtailing corporate / big bank greed

Neither party has done a damn thing about much of ANYTHING that really matters!!!

I fail to see how giving war power control back to Congress will "fix" much of anything.     As someone on ZH already said in these replies....nothing much will change until the PEOPLE rise up and take back control.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:39 | 5197969 Mi Naem
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"nothing much will change until the PEOPLE rise up and take back control."

...and having met "the people", I do not feel optimistic:

If we do this revolution thingy, do we get to keep our air conditioning and our iPhones? 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:09 | 5198057 RaceToTheBottom
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Ron Paul said: 

"When Republicans are in power “neoconservatives” take the lead, while when Democrats are in power “humanitarian interventionists" take the lead."

His assumption is that "following the Constitution" should be a requirement of all parties, and not a tenant of a particular party.  That is something I doubt they would agree with.

 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:35 | 5198244 JRobby
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These idiots argue over meaningless crap to keep the general population convinced they are "doing something"

Really, the ultimate definition of a "government job"

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:39 | 5198266 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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as i said before he is losing it... down vote away but the guy is obviously showing a few signs of logical disconnection

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:33 | 5197946 Cthonic
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off topic:

Smoothed new case rate (does not include DRC outbreak data):

08 Sep 14 - 86/day

04 Sep 14 - 75/day

28 Aug 14 - 69/day

22 Aug 14 - 59/day

20 Aug 14 - 54/day

19 Aug 14 - 46/day

15 Aug 14 - 54/day

13 Aug 14 - 40/day

11 Aug 14 - 37/day

08 Aug 14 - 54/day

06 Aug 14 - 55/day

04 Aug 14 - 57/day

02 Aug 14 - 43/day

29 Jul 14 - 38/day

27 Jul 14 - 23/day

23 Jul 14 - 12/day

17 Jul 14 - 10/day

Case Fatality Risk Estimate: 51%

Active Case Growth Rate: 5.2% per day

(8 Sep release contains data through 6 Sep)

 

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/132834/1/roadmapupdate8sept14_e...

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:37 | 5197958 SheepDog-One
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The last 2 presidents? How about Clinton and daddy Bush? Come on, this is all far from something new, they've just been refining the imperial presidency with a better illusion.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:37 | 5197963 Amish Hacker
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Nixon, like today's PTB, was a hopeless paranoid, obsessed with his long list of enemies and a commie under every bed. Look at how he went after Daniel Ellsberg, tapping his phone, reading his mail, breaking into his therapist's office to read his medical records, etc. in an effort to prevent Ellsberg from revealing the truth.

How far we have come! Everything Nixon did to Ellsberg is now legal, and the current Enemies List includes every one of us.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:50 | 5198003 Skip
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Bill Clinton used the IRS to audit the NRA, after the loss the Demonrats suffered in the 1994 election, after the Brady-Assault Weapons Ban, which, even though CLEAN and totally above board, had to pay MILLIONS of dollars to defend itself.

Nixon gave us Affirmative Action and a lot of these anti-White government policies. So, fellow ZHers, we have been SCREWED by both parties for DECADES.

And the MSM is merely a propaganda arm of the HIVE, like Facebook's Zuckerberg deleting this video, can't have the dozing Whites waking up, btw Zuckerberg employs an army of Asian censors to pour over posts looking for anything that might awaken the goyim:

About 125 "teens" in Memphis stomping and so forth a White high school kid who works for Kroger's, you know the jobs WHITES won't do.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68a_1410105070
Racially motivated assault at Kroger in Memphis, TN

This fight happened on September 6, 2014 at the Kroger at Poplar and Highland in Memphis, Tennessee. According to witnesses, a mob of teens attacked store employees at the front entrance to the store, and later an elderly customer in the parking lot.

Video was uploaded to facebook and deleted since.

Notice the wonderful civilian who asks someone to hold his camera and record him. Priorities.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 16:32 | 5199147 dizzyfingers
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What did you expect?

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 17:54 | 5199420 Laddie
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Just like the Iraq vet in Mississippi last month who was beaten by dozens of blacks at a restaurant parking lot and the BLACK Police Chief said, NOT A HATE CRIME. Must be a LOVE CRIME.
Iraq War Vet Was Warned Waffle House Wasn’t ‘Safe For Whites,’ Gets Beaten, Needs Brain Surgery

Here are MORE love crimes, not hate.
http://newnation.org/

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:49 | 5198006 p00k1e
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What’s Ron Paul’s legacy – whiney bitch and getting his family into the FSA, I mean politics? 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 12:54 | 5198026 Salah
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This is bullshit; the President isn't powerful enough.  He has term-limits; Congress has none.  He has no line-item veto; Congress routinely aggregates all manner of bills into 1 gigantic piece of legislation that won't be vetoed---ever.  Congress has no spending restraints, i.e. a balanced budget requirement.  

The guilty party: CONGRESS, CONGRESS, CONGRESS!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:09 | 5198116 JRobby
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Like he was the only one that did this shit. He was the creepiest. No argument there.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:22 | 5198177 PGR88
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Nixon never used the IRS to attack political opponents.  He suggested it, and the IRS Commissioner complained.

Compare that to our present day Government Party, where highly politicized apparatchiks don't even need to be told directly - but are prepared to put their political ideology into play  every day to harass enemies of their beloved progressive state.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:33 | 5198234 New American Re...
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That's the weakness of Ron Paul, he always gets part of it right and not the whole.  The Imperial Presidency isn't based upon bypassing the Congress to wage war; it is a result of the powers of Congress to make laws being diverted to the agencies of the Executive Branch.  Lobbyists don't have to buy Congress, just lull them to sleep with a few bucks while they spend the big dollars on the President, his agencies, and his defacto Cabinet post of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA).  This is where our laws are made, where GMO's and Monsanto are made, where health care regs are made, where banking regs are made.  This is what sustains the Imperial Presidency, not war making powers.  I like Ron Paul, he's done a lot of good, but he has always fallen short of the vision required to carry the ball over the goal line.   I think he's kind of a grump and not very personable, and this holds him back.  I hope the kid doesn't share this fault.  Maybe shoe lifts will help.  I don't know....

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:58 | 5198680 overmedicatedun...
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lois lerner's little nest of vipers at the IRS is the model for most of DC..deep statism, small groups at high levels thru out .gov, with their MSM shills they work for the .01%, what you think they work for $15/hr berger cooks, and retired grandma's? oligarchs in sec tres, doj, dod and sec agencies, all working together to keep the deep state going..so at the IRS they discard records faster than a pig can shit, while demanding of the serfs your total records going on years..easy to see what a monster the fed gov has become the modern hydra.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 13:46 | 5198292 kevinearick
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Global City Hall:   Juveniles Lost in Space

The law is juvenile, always has been, always will be, because predicting the future based upon a biased past as the basis of present action can only result in repeating the past, more efficiently relative to the environment. Critters imprisoning their children to poverty to collect toys, as a means of assuaging their own fear, should have been a clue.

If the empire busy workers could reach ‘escape velocity’ of their own volition, they would have already done so. Printing more money and adding more laws changes nothing. You don’t have to protect your children from the juvenile majority, its own worst enemy. Just set your distance.

There is nothing wrong with the economy that cannot be fixed if the critters would eat sensibly, get some exercise, and go to bed at a decent time, so they are ready to work. You don’t free yourself by doing 100mph in a 65mph zone during rush hour. Always replace the return line, before installing the motor.

You exist on a fulcrum of your own creation, unless you choose to walk across and join the herd, which is the point of public education. There are as many dimensions of distance as there are people, and many more, which is why the critters seek the electron by process of elimination.

Gravity is like clay, but you have to build your own guidance system, and the assets required present themselves in the process, to be recycled accordingly. The empire is just a resistor, burning busy work, as the break. Release the brake, and make the switch.

Civil marriage competes to own the past. It’s like a multiplexer with concentric queues, of consumers standing in line to collect a check, to pass along so-exploited natural resources. Legacy is the small circle, the lower middle class is the large circle, and the upper middle class likes to think of itself as the benevolent accounting fulcrum.

Empire proffers a replacement for your spouse in every instance, in the form of another, a job, a car, your own children, whatever, to liquidate your equity with a promise. Life is choosing your spouse. Whether your children follow the example is up to them. If they don’t, others will.

Family Law outcomes, not the process or the technology, are now being dismantled, for all but the most pernicious cases, by judges closing the cases outright, credit bureaus erasing false arrears, and education suddenly finding your credentials. The process of elimination continues however. (call your case county CSS to flip the bits representing flags on your account in the system)

For now, Putin is pursuing the best defense by presenting a good offense, to place the battlefield beyond his own artificial civil borders, and the empire is awash in imploding borders, across which the critters are competing to become the most barbaric. Whether the sea encapsulates or is encapsulated depends upon perspective.

The critters always view preemptive strike as the most viable option. If it comes down to an argument between Court and City Manager, who do you suppose wins?

Always present yourself to Court, except in cases of jurisdiction, unless you want to be surrounded, when you are ready to walk through the imploding gravity. The Teslas are partially correct. With resonance, you can blow up the entire solar system, but why would you want to?

You don’t need to government to break the stranglehold its healthcare industry has on the global economy. How much gravity you care to carry depends upon your development. If you let the critters steal your second derivative, the will soon be bidding up your first, which is the second relative to your children.

There is no reliable external measure of character, and you are a whole lot closer to the horizon of creation than the majority. Only a pessimist looks at gravity and sees a prison, only to replicate it more efficiently, expecting the prison not to shrink.

Without individual responsibility, the majority has no past and no future; printing can only result in lost purchasing power. Government is like a $5 meter from Wal-Mart. What you can do with it is surprising, but you don’t want to bet your life on it.

Why would you cede your collateral and relatively negative interest rates, a bank, to Warren Buffet or anyone else, much less a majority inherently incapable of consideration, and expect anything other than a FILO bankruptcy queue, with a boom and bust entitlement ponzi, masquerading passive aggressive war as public education?

Only a derivative Nazi comes up with something like thought leadership, competing to lead a parade of like-minded automatons. At the end of an empire cycle, its world is awash in short-term thinkers, examining their history as the path to the future, and calculating probabilities accordingly. This too shall pass, as you install the motor.

It really doesn’t matter whether the juveniles begin with democratic, autocratic, or hierarchical currency, because an emotional majority will always debase the currency, to devalue the individual and community, in favor of the global city where it resides, and perversely enforce the outcome with autocratic scapegoat practice, employing an increasingly inelastic education system for the purpose, calling itself manifest destiny.

Character is what you want to value. Discount the empire by reducing rent in your community. Funny, even the medicinal pot growers have a union, to increase rent, creating a moat. Bring on the next passive aggressive couple Bob, for another round of Eliminate Your Isolated Neighbor, to the benefit of empire.

Congress taxes the present, the Fed taxes the future, currency is not money, civil marriage is the bait and swap, and the pendulum is part of a system.

“There is no point of contact in our social organization where temptation to moral wrong is so pronounced, so active, so potent, or so strong, as in the misuse of measurements.”

All this nonsense based upon a duebill strike price by labor with local character…the snowball effect of derivatives…moats or dominoes depends upon perspective. Labor has no interest in equality under the ponzi water line. That much Putin learned from Lenin, relationships in a closed system.

Just because labor is nowhere to be found on the Titanic does not mean that it cannot build and navigate a ship, at will. Answer C: Step forward and leave the Bell Curve juveniles behind, with increasing pressure on decreasing volume, under dc conditions, the physics of morality, irrespective of time.

Heal thyself physician.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:06 | 5198375 LFMayor
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Ron Paul is a congressman.
Can you fix the game from within? 
Enough said.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 14:08 | 5198382 Frankly Speaking
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The failure to impeach obama only demonstrates that while the opposition abhors this presidents actions, they wish to preserve those powers for their own successors.  They will not impeach obama for using the IRS to target his political opponents because the repubs want to use the IRS for the same purpose. They will not impeach for lies since they themselves want to preserve the power of lies. I'm pretty sure that nixon didn't invent that IRS move. There simply is no integrity in government. Not since Kennedy.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:04 | 5198719 BrokusDickusMaximus
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Best poker player in the Pacific in WWII. Tricky Dick!

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:06 | 5198730 Otrader
Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:18 | 5198801 David Wooten
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Nixon ended the draft.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 15:57 | 5198953 vyeung
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The cabal know how the game is played. You can't make it too obvious, and its nice to have hope. Thus Ron Paul served as a pacifier for the cabal. American's know congress is farked, but with a powerless opposer, the people are less prone to revolution. They definitely do not want the American people to rise up and take back their country. I believe in the UK Farage is a similar figure as people there are also being very unhappy with their government. Works all the time. I'll keep feeding you BS and you have this hero that is suppose to call out stuff to relieve the pressure. NICE ONE!

Obviously Ron Paul never posed a BIG risk for the cabal otherwise people will be visiting his tomb stone, like all cabal opposer's.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 16:28 | 5199126 dizzyfingers
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"and not a tenant of a particular party"

Tenet, not tenant!  noun, any opinion, principle, doctrine, dogma, etc., especially one held as true by members of a profession, group, or movement.

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 18:12 | 5199487 lost money
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And FDR begat LBJ. once again littel ronnie paul th menatl midget misses the point. he and his but kissing followers need to broaden their perspective away from every thing bad in ths country starting when tricky dick closed the gold window. 

Tue, 09/09/2014 - 19:41 | 5199821 datapanik
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Nixon and Kissenger should've been indicted for war crimes.

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