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Here's another fine example of your tax dollars at work (or at least the tax dollars of those here in the Bay Area):
So what they're doing is requiring medical marijuana dispensaries...........to set aside a portion of their cannabis............to give away free............to poor people. Boy, there's nothing that's going to get the impoverished on their feet and back into the workforce like a good toke, is there? Incidentally, it wasn't a close vote by the Berkeley Council: it was unanimous.
I read this within an hour of reading this article stating, in part, "Teenagers who smoke marijuana daily are over 60 percent less likely to complete high school than those who never use. They're also 60 percent less likely to graduate college and seven times more likely to attempt suicide."
It's almost enough to make you think the powers that be want the poor to stay poor. Heh.
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the funniest part is, I think I know that dude in the picture....it is an OLD pic of him hahaha
Bread and circuses just got expanded. Slick move considering pot will just make the FSA mellow and want some munchies.
Wait... they're going to give medical marijuana to sick, poor people with prescriptions!
Why, that's COMPASSIONATE! I can't believe they're going to force these MEDICAL marijuana centers, established under a need for "compassionate care" to just GIVE MEDICINE AWAY... for FREE!
To SICK PEOPLE! OMG! That's like MEDICARE, or something!!! We may as well be GIVING AWAY or subsidizing OPIATES, ANTIDEPRESSANTS, DEPRESSANTS, or SEDATIVES for sick people!
What's this world coming to!?!?!
isn't it a question of how much? there is a difference between being drunk all the time and drinking a bottle of wine during the weekend, for example. yet when it comes to other things, suddently some see everything in sharp black & white contrasts
With the exception that doctors don't prescribe wine or liquor, and the fact that most medical users of marijuana barely even use enough to feel inebriation... let alone that some medical marijuana is INCABLE of causing inebriation...
But who's splitting ignorant and stupid hairs here....
Pretty much like that.
Some of the most intelligent, thoughtful, in control people I know smoke pot. Not talking about burn-outs or bums drinking sterno here.
Just regular people, smoking pot...just like a bottle of wine ;-)
yeah, regular people that work hard and have a job...(or, can hold down a job, as it were...because in the vast majority of cases, if you're working hard, your employer doesnt want to get rid of you...)
While not terribly addicting, pot makes an average person stupid and a smart person average.
I know senior VP's who would beg to differ. Show me your anecdote and I'll show you mine.
Sloper,
you know i'm a fan and all, but i'm in this case gonna have to defend 'pot-smokers'; as i fear they're being painted with too broad a brush.
pot is, to simplify the argument, a vice; and it should be understood in this light. incidentally, it seems to offer several other ancillary health benefits; and it bears mentioning that a vice, if enjoyed in relative moderation, is therapeutic in and of itself. for some of us, a mechanism that provides psychic distance from our frenetic and malignant world is both a desirous and necessary therapy...same as booze. the question is: is this a vice that meets the criteria for general acceptance within the broader society? i believe that it does.
as a society, we're actively engaged in that debate; and we've arrived at a point where we unconsciously conflate the activity itself to some abstracted 'identity'. in other words, we're attempting to make an archetype of the american 'pot-smoker'. i know what you're all thinking, 'the american dialectic reduced to some haze of cliches, ill-informed generalizations and irrelevant images and massaged statistics?...perish the thought! american thinking is richly textured and wise in its every assessment'. nevertheless, we in this instance insist on objectifying the 'pot-smoker' in an effort to evaluate the relative merits of tolerating pot-smoking, and by it assess those merits as they relate to this archtypal 'pot-smoker' -- not unlike the one you have included as a photo...there is your 'pot-smoker', amorica! now go and craft us some policy with him in mind.
i suppose i'm saying that not all drinkers are winos or otis from mayberry; i, for example, wouldn't mind sharing a glass of wine with Salon or Demosthenes or Tolstoy; and it is my suspicion that all these and many more would be interested in investigating the potential yield from an elegant mind fertilized with those mysterious canniboids.
i don't think any of sound, sane and serious mind is suggesting that weed is consequence free; it is more a matter of individual liberty with respect to the law and, above all, freedom from the social constraints and pejorative assumptions regarding 'pot-smokers'. i do recognize how potent are these thinly-warn stereotypes propagated by those with an interest in maligning everyone associated with this activity...the dopey social misfit has been an effective hob-goblin for quite a while now. but it's time we moved past that.
and as a gesture of goodwill, i'm going to give you a brilliant idea for an app. since that's sorta y'alls thing out west. even though janus has never used or purchased an app, i understand that the kids are absolutely mad for them. and this is also to prove that pot does not impair nor impede genius where genius first existed; and i further believe it allows me to interact with ideas and notions that would otherwise remain for me abstract.
so, here's your next multi-million-selling app...coming soon to an i-widget near you.
okay, ZHealots, you know how people love to hate other people? hate is the biggest thing since love. i'll tell you the truth, love will put you in the poor house, but hate will pay the mortgage on that magnificent property in malibu, sloping gently down in aquiline mounds of earth back against the pacific. yup, hate's where the money's at.
and so it is that i introduce to you all the first app devoted entirely to hatred and mankind's specific proclivity for the same.
i call it simply "Voodoo Doom"...pretty damned catchy, i know.
anyway, with this new janus-app the user will be allowed to make a digital voodoo doll of any subject from which they can find a photo. all the user needs to bring is their hatred and a passion for the same. go ahead, amorica, get creative with your muted vengeance. you'll be the envy of the neighborhood when you show off the cleverly articulated avatar that's about to endure a host of wicked tortures.
stick-pins are just the beginning...like i was saying, use your imagination. and you could sell upgrades, where you give the user more sophisticated and sinister instruments of demonic mirth.
no need to thank me, just buy janus 'that' estate in malibu (you know) after you get your first angel-fund installment...i'll need some time to decide between the MBW, the jag, the benz, the audi or the porche -- probably best to just stuff the garage with one of each.
anyway, sloper, see ya at the beach. you bring the beers, i'll bring the buds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6LlIM9M1bE
matchsticks strike when i'm ridin my bike to the depot/
yes, everybody knows my name at the recreation center,
janus
Weed is just another drug. And it's not because some drugs are legal that it should be used as a argument to legalise all drugs.
What's next? Cocaine?
I don't really need a response :)
Weed is fun for kids but when you're a grownup and you still smoke it daily, you're a drug addict.
And sure it might have possitive sides but it's a drug.
I don't think people who smoke weed should be driving a car.
I don't think people who smoke weed can work well.
I don't think people who smoke weed should be allowed a gun.
I don't think people who smoke weed should be president.
curious what you have to say for all the caffeine addicts out there - its a drug? I mean really, I think anyone who wakes up in the morning and NEEDS that stimulant to even just so much as get their day going....man, they need help. and shouldnt be placed in positions of responsibility, because they have become dependent on a substance to get through their day...
known too many people that have driven stoned almost every day for decades and never had an issue,
known too many people that smoke and also work hard and are very valued employees,
known too many that toke that are very responsible gun owners
and we all know the presidency is dead anyway, just puppets live in the white house.
This won't go far. Big Pharma does not approve. Big Alc does not approve. Big LAW -- from enforcement to prosecution to jails and prisons -- does not approve. In general, even current growers of marijuana do not approve. Some minor players do approve -- state, county, and city agencies (corpses all) hungry for more revenue. Fees some have to pay to play -- dispensaries, suppliers, runners, etc. -- will be like the price "the mob" demanded of such folks back in the days of "alcohol prohibition". Speak easy, speak without slurring.
Soap opera. That's all. Drink up, smoke up, the sirens of Fukushima sing a silent song you may learn in time. Meanwhile, we can celebrate GMOs, chemtrails, fluoride in our water, fracking to destroy water in the ground, and so on and on. ***That's why, ultimately, The Powers That Be will indeed "legalize" marijuana.***
Keep the sheeple (oops, I meant to type "people") pacified, dumbed down, doped up. If they want to smoke cannabis instead of popping Big Pharma's pills, well, we'll make sure the "money" -- Federal Researve Notes (debt) -- get credited to the proper pockets. When we figure that out, then you can have your (very much more) expensive "marijuana cigarettes" or "buds" just like you can have your Budweiser and tobacco products today.
There will be home delivery in Black Choom Mobiles.
This is good! We have a huge supply of "poor" people, so this will increase profits, which will allow us to import more poor people and provide more services to them. Food, clothing healthcare, education and shelter should be given out too. EBITA to give them some walking around money.
He looks happy.
Actually medical cannabis is one of the very very few good things going in this country. Let 'em smoke as much as they want.
after hearing the potus address, double down on that
MJ is bad news but the 'War on Drugs' is far far worse.MJ just screws with users and those close to them, the loss of libery causes us all to suffer.
Good riddance WoD....if you are so inclined enjoy the smoke.
In college, in an upper division psych class, we were taught that current research showed that pot mainly induced induced some physiological changes that were then associated with psychological changes - ie, users had to "learn" how to get high, part of the reason not many get high the first time they smoke. So the problem comes down to classic "set and setting" issues - if you learn to get high with people who see it as an excuse to be stupid, forgetful, and more stupid...... that's how the drug will affect you.
In college, I used moderate pot smoking to 1) become an award winning photographer, 2) work as photo editor of the school paper (also award winning) for a few years, 3) ace tests through state dependent learning for interesting courses; highest test score I got on a college exam, 98.5%, I took the test mildy stoned, same way I studied, essay test and I freaked out the prof a bit by quoting a paragraph out of the text verbatim and gave the page number in an answer to one question, 4) to relax and have fun with my friends.
I would dispute your claim that "MJ is bad news" - it's what you use it for that matters.
edit: in case it matters, I was a hard science major, not liberal arts, and the test I mentioned was in biology.
CCNA in 15 minutes ;)
Imagine what you could have done if you weren't stoned. You coulda been a contendah !
*sigh*
Fully developed endocannabinoid medicine could cut our US medical expenditures in half. Maybe by as much as 2/3rds.
Too bad all ZH knows about this is dope jokes and dangers to teenagers. And BTW the danger may actually be from child abuse not the pot. But no one looks for that sort of thing when anti-pot messages are so much better for headlines.
OTOH. Berserkeley IS nuts. The only thing that keeps prices high is the taxes and illegality. Otherwise the coust shoild run to about $50 to $100 a lb for top grade. $10 a lb for low grade.
they call is DOPE for a reason
huh? wah? I dun rememba.
"We require that, you not only get "the shit" taxed out of you but that you also give "the shit" away to who we say. Not just anybody mind you, only those we approve of, otherwise you're considered a criminal." - The Progressive Farm Management Team
Full Fucking Retard.
Future president?
He doesn't look like the type that would bomb Syria, with or without permission of congress.
yes, yes indeed.
on a scale of one to ten where one is not at all fucked up and ten is bush/obama, i'd give this a 3.
When will the liquor stores be required to start handing out free alcohol?
"Tomorrow", but the moonshiners won't be happy.
It's more FSA treats, but let's not blow the setting out of the proportion of its context: free bud for poor adults with prescriptions.
As far as I know, you can't be a minor and walk into a dispensary. That's completely overcome by having siblings or friends who are adults.
The prescriptions are a joke. Literally anyone can get one. Tell a doctor you have chronic back pain or headaches. Bingo.
Things are a changin...but why...cui bono?
http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2014/09/new-report-world-leaders-call-ending-criminalization-drug-use-and-possession-and-responno one said anything about free bud, they said free marijuana
if i were running a dispensary, what i would be giving out for free would be the stems and seeds
...and I'm down to seeds and stems again, too...
give someone a bud, get her high for a day. give someone some seeds ....
What's next? Free celphones and contraceptives? Oh wait....
fuck the cell phones but i would put the provision of free contraception near the top of excellent governmental policies.
way, way better than what they spend most of their time and a good bit of our money on.
In my experience, they seem to have no problem affording patchouli. So where's the issue here?