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Germany Openly Hostile To Putting Frenchman In Charge Of European Financial Affairs

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Current finance minister Sapin, perhaps unsurprisingly, has admitted that France will miss EU deficit targets and needs more time to rein in public finances - proclaiming, as Reuters reports, that it may take until 2017 to bring it in line. Germany's response "nein, nein, nein" with Merkel demanding EU nations stick to commitments (rejecting any plans to 'bend rules') and Schaeuble blasting that Germany is "certain France is aware of its responsibilities." But the real stunner is that as France shows its utter ineptitude in managing an economy, EU President Juncker has placed former French finance minister Moscovici in charge of Europe's taxes and finances. German lawmakers exclaimed this is "not a wise personnel decision." The core splinters...

 

France is failing hard... (as Reuters reports)

France announced on Wednesday it was breaking the latest in a long line of promises to European Union partners to cut its public deficit, conceding it now would take until 2017 to bring its finances in line with EU rules.

 

The statement by Finance Minister Michel Sapin follows weeks of hints by Paris that weakness in the euro zone's second largest economy would prevent it bringing the deficit below the EU ceiling of three percent of output next year as promised.

 

Sapin insisted France was not seeking to change or suspend the rules but wanted the deteriorating outlook for growth and inflation this year and next to be taken into account.

 

Paris has led calls for a more flexible interpretation of EU budget regulations along with Italy,

 

"Let France's position be clear: in the European debate now open, we are not seeking a change of European rules, we are not seeking their suspension, nor any exception for France or other countries.

 

"We are asking that everyone takes into account the economic reality we are all facing - that growth that is too weak, inflation that is too low."

But... German Chancellor Angela Merkel has rejected any bending of the rules and said on Wednesday euro zone countries should stick to their commitments.

"The (European) Commission is right to keep up pressure for solid budgets and reforms," she told parliament in Berlin. "What applies for Germany also applies unchanged for Europe."

And Germany's finance ministry adds:

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble on Tuesday rebuffed calls for Berlin to spend more to boost the euro zone economy, insisting on the need for painful structural reforms.

  • *GERMAN MINISTRY 'CERTAIN' FRANCE 'AWARE OF ITS RESPONSIBILITY'
  • *GERMAN MINISTRY SAYS EUROPE NEEDS FRANCE TO HAVE STRONG ECONOMY

Upholding the EU deficit-busting rules will now fall to Sapin's Socialist predecessor, Pierre Moscovici, an advocate of Keynesian demand-led economics, who was appointed European Commissioner for economic and monetary affairs in the new EU executive team unveiled on Wednesday.

Germany is not happy:

  • *GERMAN CDU LAWMAKER BARTHLE SAYS MOSCOVICI NOMINATION NOT A WISE DECISION

German lawmaker Norbert Barthle from Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union says appointment of Pierre Moscovici as European Union Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner not “a wise personnel decision.”

 

In e-mailed statement, Barthle also says:

 

“It will be interesting to see how Mr. Moscovici will deal with France’s excessive deficit”

 

“It’s now up to the commission to assess a delayed adherence to the 3% deficit limit and, where appropriate, take further steps against the country”

 

“This is where Mr. Moscovici can show that he really represents the interests of Europe”

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So put the socialist fox in charge of the money hen house... what could go wrong?

But you shouldn't worry, because:

  • EU'S MOSCOVICI SAYS IN INTERVIEW WITH FRANCE'S LES ECHOS NO EXCEPTIONS CAN BE MADE FOR FRANCE ON BUDGET
  • EU'S MOSCOVICI SAYS FRANCE'S DEFICIT REDUCTION PLANS NEED TO BE EXAMINED OVER A LONG-TERM PERIOD

Yep - no exceptions... except we'll use a long-term average that enables an exception for France - because that's what's fair.

 

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Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:46 | 5202313 walküre
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Draghi's wet dreams have just popped

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has rejected any bending of the rules

no Eurobonds

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202351 skbull44
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Or is it just politicking by the Germans for domestic consumption? I guess time will tell....

http://olduvai.ca

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:30 | 5202563 overexposed
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Quick, how do you say "Celebrate Diversity" in German?

Heck, or French...  hehe

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:47 | 5202652 somecallmetimmah
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Uberaschungwedneweltvereinigungshaltenindenvergangenheitsanshaunghaben!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:56 | 5202373 williambanzai7
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Them wheeling the same jackass back in just makes my work easier...

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:02 | 5202402 world_debt_slave
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touche! The French are assholes anyway.

Thu, 09/11/2014 - 04:23 | 5205396 Volaille de Bresse
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"touche! The French are assholes anyway"

You're right! During the Summer I see tons of assholes in the streets of Paris : they're fat, slow, arrogant, they look down on everyone... and they do'nt speak a word of French.

Oh wait they're Murican tourists!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 10:55 | 5294249 inhibi
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Nothing screams lazy more than 35 hour work weeks, and retirement garaunteed at the age of 60. 

Nothing screams fat more than cheese, bread, and little to no exercise.

And nothing screams disgusting body odor more than riding a tram in Paris. It's like you guys dont even know deodorant exists. 

And nothing, absolutely nothing, yells hypocrisy more than the fact that McDonald's is more profitable in France than anywhere else in Europe, and 2% of your populace eats there everyday. 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:06 | 5202435 Bell's 2 hearted
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A Bond Too Far

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:49 | 5202328 Dr Strangemember
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Well come on... no one ever suggested the Germans were a dumb people.  I'd think even the Italians and Greeks would have a problem with this!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:50 | 5202330 Yen Cross
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   France 10Y    1.365    1.371    1.398    1.347    -0.006    -0.44%    16:43:30  rotflmfao

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:52 | 5202348 LawsofPhysics
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^^^^this.  Those liabilites are a motherfucker.

As for such "open hostility", where have we seen this before and does it matter if your reseources for affecting any real change aren't shit.

How are those gold and gas shiments to Germany going these days anyway?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:52 | 5202343 olle
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One ex-France MP of finance now in charge of IMF, and another now in charge of EU finance..... this will end bad.....

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:28 | 5202869 RaceToTheBottom
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Quick, start interviewing the maids of their hotel stays!!!!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:45 | 5202940 Analyse2
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@RaceToTheBottom

Interview Lewinsky ...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 23:33 | 5205044 RaceToTheBottom
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I was thinking more of DSK of the IMF.  Jeeze, history occurs outside the US boundaries as well....

 

Lewinsky was a different chapter in history....

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202344 froze25
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And yet another score for UKIP in upcoming elections.  Its not a matter of if but when the EU will fail, fall apart or something like that.  Right into UKIPS waiting arms.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202346 buzzsaw99
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i sense a great disturbance in the farce

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:18 | 5202497 Zero Govt
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All Is Well

trans-national Govt interference in each others budgets is a raging success

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:52 | 5202349 enforcer92677
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Is there any chance that the EU will dissolve the all the member countries go back to being solo entities?  I have yet to see any papers or articles suggesting such but everytime I see the dour economic and financial news that comes from the EU I can't help but think that it will end their union.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:53 | 5202688 SpanishGoop
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We will "all go down together" as one nation under the sun....

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202353 NaiLib
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:) France will find a way to do what pleases them. They are not a European country. France is there for France and nothing else.Do not forget that.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:55 | 5202360 NaiLib
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And those betting on a EU "recovery" in the near term will be utterly disappointed.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:47 | 5202948 Analyse2
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As the US, and all other countries  ...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202355 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. This is a very good example of "WHY" this EU bullshit will never, "EVER" work!

You 'merican NWO-types better get that "SHIT" rolling!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202356 Xibalba
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Bring back my Deutsche Mark! 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:18 | 5202486 walküre
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Can't be too far off now! Where is ze gold to back DM? Until it comes back, we better hope the Russians will keep accepting our European Lira for gas.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5202357 wesson
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Implying Moscovici has anything to do with socialism

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 12:54 | 5202362 TheRideNeverEnds
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France has done so well with their own economic affairs it only makes sense that they run the show from here on out.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:00 | 5202394 Bell's 2 hearted
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should put on nice bid on german bund as "investors" speculate on possible euro breakup (dmark would soar)

years ago when i first looked at the problem it took me all of 15 minutes to figure out either euro gets parity with usd or euro needs to breakup.

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:21 | 5202511 SpanishGoop
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Being Dutch i paid a lot of money for that Euro at IPO.

Are you now telling me that it wasn't worth it.

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:25 | 5202533 walküre
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can't go parity, maybe 1.25 if you're lucky

Dollar days are gone

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:33 | 5202583 Bell's 2 hearted
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no way

 

usd about to be cleanest currency in the hamper with QE end drawing near

look for china to loosen as it faces hard landing

ecb about to embark on its version QE

japan ... well, japan does what japan does ...

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:38 | 5202612 lasvegaspersona
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I'm betting the ECB does not do QE, at least not to the extent that the Fed has. They will talk talk talk but as far as an inflationary burst of 'money for the people' (and politicians) I don't think so.

One of the obvious parts of a currency system that is not just for the benefit of one nation is that it can't be used like the dollar (and all other currencies) is used.

Obama can fire Yellen but who can fire Draghi if he refuses to help the ovespending politicians of the EZ?

These guys (the politicians) know, at some level, that eventually they will have to behave.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:03 | 5202740 walküre
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Germany is at a crossroads again. Elections are no longer producing majority governments for the established parties which were the driving force behind the EUnification and EUROfication.

Germans can't proclaim to be nationalist or patriots so they describe their feelings as "Alternative For Germany" (AFD) and get massive voting upswing.

As it stands, the Anti EU coalition across Europe is growing as the elite, the new Royalists or new Aristocrats are trying to hold on to the EU and EURO oligarchy they've created.

It will end with a bang, not with a whimper and heads will roll either literally or figuratively.

There is not one part in me that believes this form of a union will have a future anymore.

Its done.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:18 | 5202812 Bell's 2 hearted
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we'll see

i'll be first to admit that Draghi has done a masterful job the past two years on nothing more than hot air.

 

imo his talk of ecb buying abs is setting the stage for something more ... euro needs to weaken quite a bit to survive ... or every country for itself

at the end of the day i think merkel will bend ... but not before getting sayso on fiscal matters regarding europe.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:24 | 5202850 walküre
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Euro weakens means Dollar strengthens and that can't be happening either. Oil would become less affordable and crater the global economy. The price would have to come down significantly which is as deflationary as it gets. The houses of cards would all collapse.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:46 | 5202944 Bell's 2 hearted
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weaker euro only prayer europe has to export its way out of its mess

 

oh, and i'll be planning my trip to the greek isles

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 16:03 | 5203343 walküre
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Russians will be buying all the "isles" and that's the end of that.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:02 | 5202397 KnuckleDragger-X
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I love the EU, they are one giant soap opera. None of the EU countries like each other and none of the trust each other and Germany wants to run the insane asylum.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:22 | 5202517 SpanishGoop
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"One flew over the cuckoo's nest" comes to mind.

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:04 | 5202404 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-10/meet-new-leadership-europe-pres...

To throw gas on this fire.

reposting JR's comment in that thread.

In a deeply humiliating blow for the Socialist government, finance minister Pierre Moscovici was unseated from the town council in Valentigny in the Doubs department.  --The Mail, March 30, 2014

And now he’s on Juncker’s European Commission. 

And who is Pierre Moscovici? In response to a March 30, 2014, bullet on ZH entitled MOSCOVICI SAYS IT'S 'DIFFICULT TO REFORM FRANCE,' ZH blogger   Welder wrote: 

"Srul Hersch Moscovici (Serge Moscovici, Serghey Moscovici),  is a Khazarian Jewish Bolshevik born in Romania in 1925. He and his comrades blessed us, Romanians, with Communism. His son, Pierre Moscovici, continues his father's work in France. Apparently, the French electorate is just as unqualified for voting as any other."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592921/Riot-police-called-violent-clashes-break-France-far-right-National-Front-win-drama

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-30/far-right-gains-french-election-hollandes-socialists-admit-unquestionably-defeat

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:10 | 5202455 TNTARG
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AH AH AH AH AH!

"All roads lead to Rome", so to speak!

 

It is so transparent, the whole international game.

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:20 | 5202824 Monty Burns
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"It is so transparent, the whole international game."  

It is. The problem is that 99% of people still can't understand it.  That's why we have bread & circuses and dumbing down of eberything from education to entertainment.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:29 | 5202872 KnuckleDragger-X
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And the road to hell is paved with good intetions.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:05 | 5202410 centerline
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more posturing.  sooner or later someone is going to throw a punch.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:09 | 5202450 lasvegaspersona
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ouch...but Maggie was right...Socialism is fine...until you run out of other people's money to spend...

The ECB seems intent upon keeping the Euro strong or at least intact. That policy does not fit in with the French and Italian (and Spanish and Portugese and...) plan to give all things to all voters.

When the dust settles on the world of purely fiat currencies, those that try to just be a medium of exchange will survive. Those that insist they are a long term store of value (back by 'full faith and credit') will see their demise.

Paper is a horrible store of value because we humans will always demand that the printer print ....just a little bit more. This happened with shares of the Mississippi Corp., assignats, mandats, marks, and all the purely fiat currencies of about 50 other countries (in just the past 100 years). The world can tolerate fiat currencies, indeed they function well for short periods of time. It is when the government forces savers to save in these instruments that inflation takes it's slice.

Gold on the other hand, if allowed to be just a store of value, could provide savers with a long term, stable store of value. The price could float up against the over printed currencies and offer protection from that inevitable process.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:17 | 5202492 Pumpkin
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"not a wise personnel decision."

 

LoL!  Who exactly expects wise decisions in the f'd up financial world?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:30 | 5202558 german Wunderkind
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"mutti" merkel has a big problem, the CDU is dead, she is so alone, schäuble is old and tired and the rest of her party is just retarded, she bite away everyone that was a problem for her, and now she is a aging queen without a prince to take the throne after her.  a bit like the english queen.

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:32 | 5202579 Son of Captain Nemo
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this is "not a wise personnel decision."...

While I would completely concur with Germany on this one, it is Germany that needs to get the "monkey off it's back" (no pun intended) and tell the U.S. military and the rest of the "apparatus" that joins it to get the fuck out of it's Country -once and for all!

They might learn something from the French on that score!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:17 | 5202804 Monty Burns
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Bingo!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:35 | 5202590 jacship
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BBOOMMEERRAANNGG

divide and destroy

hows those sankshin's doin

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:36 | 5202597 Duffy
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Sapin is not Jewish, so I figured his predecessor must have been...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Moscovici

 

Yep.   Imagine my surprise. 

Add to that Fabius as foreign minister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent_Fabius

 

and it's no wonder France banned pro-Gaza rallies after Jewish groups deliberately threw rocks at marchers, then ran away into synagogues, resulting in the inevitable stories about 'anti-semitism'...

 

This is well worth watching: 

CRIF, the french AIPAC (eng subtitles)

It's not just AIPAC, but AIPAC and the ADL etc etc working with similar groups around the world - Canada, France, australia, the UK an elsewhere are absolutely under the thumb of Zionist lobbies.  What do they want?  Well - war on any of Israel's neighbors to destroy their economy and infrastructure, and diplomatic and financial cover to allow them to continue their slow-burn ethnic cleansing and annexation of "Judea and Samaria."

 

In the US, UK, Canada, Australia, France, and beyond (such as Ukraine and Russia) you have Jews at under 3%, even as low as under 1% of the population, but with incredibly well-organized, well-funded lobby groups, disproportionate political representaton, and media influence.  Just watch the above.  Amazing. 

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:04 | 5202750 walküre
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Juncker is cabal as well.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:15 | 5202798 Monty Burns
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"disproportionate political representaton, and media influence"

That's putting it mildly!  LoL.

In Ukraine, where they comprise 00.02% of the population the President, PM, Governors of major regions and head of the Central Bank (the one that transferred all the gold over to the NY Fed for safe keeping) are all of the Tribe. If you happen to mention this you're a nazi-who-wants-to-kill-six-million-jews.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:48 | 5202654 NoWayJose
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Austerity -  something suitable for the great unwashed of Greece, Spain, and Portugal -- but NEVER for a Frenchman!  Let those lower classes 'Eat Cake!'

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:55 | 5202700 basho
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it is really unraveling.

who will be the first to drop out and join the russians and the chinese?

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:55 | 5202702 Albert_
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It's as if they're trying to make socialists look bad and then wipe them out

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:08 | 5202762 somecallmetimmah
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You know, what they could really use over there, is some kind of national-level socialist party.  But really focused on working-class people.

A national, socialist, workers' party.  They could base it in some centrally positioned European country.  Say, Germany?

A National, Socialist, German Workers' Party!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 13:55 | 5202703 Farmer Joe in B...
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European Union.... what a stupid fucking idea

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:05 | 5202751 Monty Burns
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Another Tribesman is a key economic role.  Quelle surprise?

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:16 | 5202800 lindaamick
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The EURO has benefited Germany exclusively (along with the parasitic EU leadership).  It weakened Germany's currency (via the poorer southern countries) allowing German exports to become more desirable globally. 

Now, the chickens are coming home to roost as most EU countries are finding out they've been had. 

No jobs, austerity, sell off of public assets.   What a life!

 

 

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:29 | 5202870 walküre
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Actually that's not quite so. Germany sold BMW in exchange for apples and oranges. How much fruit does Germany have to consume to pay for all those nice cars? The difference was recorded as trade deficit with ECB and it is Germany which is owed. German industry is no longer dependent on the European market as it is filling the lack of demand with exports to China. Demand from China is about as strong as demand from the entire Eurozone.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 15:08 | 5203036 Analyse2
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Who is behind BMW ...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-27/nazi-goebbels-step-grandchildren-are-hidden-billionaires.html

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 16:11 | 5203363 walküre
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Several Quandts are among Germany's top ten wealthiest. The current generation has no political allegiance to their forefathers. I don't read Bloomberg and your link just reaffirmed my disgust for that Zionist rag.

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:53 | 5202964 Volaille de Bresse
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Funny... in our rotten MSM the nomination of Mosco is nothing less than a smashing success for France.

Deep down inside it's good Mosco finally found a job : the girl who sucks his dick (literally) is 30 year younger than he is. Marie-Charline Pacquot can't be more than 25.

If Mosco had remained permanently unemployed there's no doubt his lovebird would have flown the nest and found another sugar daddy...

Ah the joys of socialism... Sweet soft lips and high wages.

Roll the dough!

Wed, 09/10/2014 - 14:53 | 5202976 Volaille de Bresse
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"Actually that's not quite so. Germany sold BMW in exchange for apples and oranges. How much fruit does Germany have to consume to pay for all those nice cars? The difference was recorded as trade deficit with ECB and it is Germany which is owed. German industry is no longer dependent on the European market as it is filling the lack of demand with exports to China"

That's 100% true that's WHY Europe needs to kick Germany out of the Eurozone. Berlin would go back to the Mark and the Euro would be devalued by 25-30%. A breath of fresh air for the Eurozone and a good kick in the nuts for rogue countries that are in Europe but don't want the Euro : Warsaw are you listening?

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