It appears that, in a rush to get his strategy out the door, President Obama overlooked his key "do nothing stupid" foreign policy plan.
- OBAMA SAID TO SEEK CONGRESS AUTHORITY TO ARM SYRIAN REBELS
So - to be clear - the strategy to defeat ISIS is to arm more of the same "rebels" that ultimately split off and became, well, ISIS?
Perhaps it's better if Obama sticks to his original "no strategy" plan after all... if only for the people, not so much the military-industrial complex of course.
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Remember Those ‘Moderate’ Syrian Rebels That The U.S. Armed? ISIS Got Some Of Those Weapons Too
As the Syrian Civil War has waged on over the past few years, the United States, along with Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, decided to arm the Syrian rebels under the “Free Syrian Army” umbrella.
The shipments of former Yugoslavian Army weapons held by the Croatians, along with newly manufactured Croatian weapons, began in November 2012, according to The Telegraph UK. The weapons were flown out of Croatia on chartered flights to Jordan and then smuggled into Syria.
Fast forward to the rise of ISIS and their blitzkreig campaign across northern Iraq. An investigation by the arms control organization Conflict Armament Research has found that various U.S. supplied weapons have wound up in the hands of ISIS.
AFP reports:
The study by the London-based small-arms research organisation Conflict Armament Research documented weapons seized by Kurdish forces from militants in Iraq and Syria over a 10-day period in July.
The report said the jihadists disposed of “significant quantities” of US-made small arms including M16 assault rifles and included photos showing the markings “Property of US Govt”.
It also found that anti-tank rockets used by IS in Syria were “identical to M79 rockets transferred by Saudi Arabia to forces operating under the Free Syrian Army umbrella in 2013?.
The U.S.-made small arm in question is the M16A4 assault rifle. It is the main service rifle of the U.S. Marine Corps and sees limited use in the U.S. Army. More importantly, thousands of them were supplied to the Iraqi Army. The source of ISIS’s M16s, along with other U.S. made weapons, is likely captured Iraqi Army stocks.
As for the M79s, they were part of the arms shipments from Croatia that were meant for the Free Syrian Army. The weapons were either captured, or acquired by former FSA fighters as they joined ISIS.
The lesson to be learned here is that foreign policy decisions often have unintended consequences. As the U.S. contemplates what future action it will take to combat ISIS, it needs to be sure to learn those lessons of the past.




indeed it would. Americans, just say no... this is all bullshit.
this made me laugh.
But hey -- why not? There is no sport in it otherwise. I am just waiting for ISIS to have their first ceremonial Preditor Drone flyover.
"Hey GUYZ LOOK WHAT WE FOUND IN IRAK"
"Hey GUYZ LOOK WHAT WE FOUND IN IRAK"
"It came with rather oddly specific instructions as well! What are the chances!?"
If I didn't live in Amerka, I'd be laughing my ass off.
Just more evidence the head of the snake is DC.
What happened to the Even/Odd day bombing plan? Bomb Assad on one day then bomb Rebels the next? It worked for London traffic congestion and this is sort of a similar situation with too many targets.
Long Lockheed.
Nows We Got's US A STRATCHEDY, Bitchez !!!
Obama has a thing for the FSA I guess. Both FSAs.
yep...arming Al CIA-duh to "fight" I-CIA-SIS, sounds about par for the course with these criminal scumbag sociopaths in D.C.
Why should any of us be surprised?
The lame-stream, dinosaur, has-been media won't alert the public that both groups are the same and are funded, trained, armed and protected by the U.S. Gov and the spooky "folks" at Langley.
And if you try to tell any of the sheeple what's really up they just go into a coma and call you a conspiracy theorist and a racist for being critical of the Marxist In Chief.
Perfect situation for o-bomb-ya and the crony, crooked, psycho, scum who are running the show for their bankster overlords.
And if we try to fight them we're "domestic terrorists" and again, of course, we're all just a bunch of racists too. Can't for get that part.
He's already been arming Syrian rebels for years. The whole Benghazi mess was a gun running deal shipping Libyan guns to Syrian rebels via Turkey that went sideways on us. There is video of FSA fighter shooting Javeline and TOW anti tank missles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cqqgYyyCmA
Why didn't the FSA use those armaments on the cops in Ferguson?
pods
The launchers were too close to the schools and hospitals.
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someone called my name?
Wait What has things to do, but he's always willing to pop his head in and remind everyone that contradictions are inherent to the DoubleSpeak paradigm being introduced.
the best way to control a population is to keep it confused and assume the role of authority.
"confused? let me take care of what your little mind is unable to grasp."
Its time for some other fucking country to do this shit.
We are tired of 60 years of crusades
Better yet, no country do this shit.
Just what makes everyone believe that this is not going as to the plan?
Who benefits?
The Defense Contractors of America stand to make such fantastic profits from the mass Government sanctioned murder happening in the Middle East.
Then when the public screams for a solution the Defense Contractors will even gain more as America gears up for another war in the Middle East.
Yes Obama is their boy.
Yes you can also profit from the blood money if you so desire. Go long Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and the rest...right?
But karma is a bitch. And when we are finally nuked into a neolithic age as a result then you can take all of that money that you made and burn in Hell for eternity.
But there is no God as so many of you will retort. Yes that justifies the immorality. You have to have that "moral relativism" as you know. And you will kill million more than any of those "religious crusaders" which you hypocritically claim to despise.
As for me I will bet on Eternity. If financially supporting the madness were like fucking a whore...well...I would not even fuck her with your dick much moreso my own.
Yes. The flaming queer in the White House is the Defense Contractor's boy. He is just doing as he is told.
Protip: If your new "moderates" show up on YouTube again feasting on the organs of dead Syrian Army bodies, you have the wrong guys.
Snake? We're a tiger man, a TIGER!
http://retrieverman.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/inbred-tiger-nose.jpg
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Now that's what I call LEADERSHIP! Just BRILLIANT!
You have to create more debt to get out of it.
You have to pass the bill to see what is in it.
You should arm your enemy to defeat him.
This is all consistent anti-logic and we've been hearing it for fucking years. A design for chaos when you know no one is paying attention.
You have to give up your freedoms in order to protect the Land of Freedom
You all need to give BlindMonkey the keys to your Ferraris to make sure nothing happens to them.
We created these fuckers, along with Al Qaida, so why wouldn't we arm them? Our gov't hates us far more than it hates foreign jihadists
Listen. America the beautiful. There is nothing that you can do about it. Or is there?
Let me be clear. I heard on the Internet that ISIL is welcoming USSA men to join their team as "REBELS"! I'm not sure but I already heard that USSA had some young men go to Syria and say "I WANNA FIGHT THIS FUCKER OBAMA"! And they are over there fighting right now!
It would be awesome to read on ZH in a few weeks that all the arms given to the "MODERATES" have been liberated by "THE ISIL".
Just how much more of this will US Colonels put up with? Something has got to break soon!
As long as the MIC keeps throwing hundreds of billions the military's way, they will continue to be bought off. But yes, watch the colonels for the first inklings...
I think the US military should get first go at the DC clowns. All our services have paid the price for these idiots! Any left over should be tarred, feathered and chained to a block wall so they can be used as bottle rocket targets. If somehow a few dont bust into flame we should send them to Ukraine (reparations). Im sure the Ukrainians wont mind having to use a little newspaper to get the fireplace started.
It's in their JOB description, &$)(/:?! Traitors too? Whatcha waiting for officer corp? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Actions speak louder than words.
Foreign AND domestic...
There are valid, constitutional laws for just this case...
Of course, if we are speaking about the constitution, only the Navy is actually permited by the con, so the army, air force, and marines are in a bit of a pickle.
pods
Oh you want to do it legally? Ok we use the patriot act against them and world tour rendition them to: Tunisia Libya Egypt Iraq Syria Iran Afganistan and the rest. When they return from their secret vacation we can try them in a military tribunal using all those forced confessions! Next we send them to guantanamo bay! Two days after they get there we will give guantanamo back to the Cubans and leave all the sweet little torture shit in place. After the terrorists are dealt with we will be free to annul the Patriot act, dismantle the CIA/NSA, lock up the bankers forever and return to being a free country.
All that was legal right? My government assures me it is!
They pulled off the same operation we did, only a hell of a lot cheaper. We should just hire them. Oh, wait. I'm confused.
the sheeple are waking up...slowly but surely.
Zionism/AIPAC/BIS/IMF/Federal Reserve are rapidly losing politcal support during this awakening process
Which makes them even more dangerousfor several reasons. Their plan was to indoctrinate people into believing the NWO would be for their benefit, and the sheeple are so fucking stupid, and the media and academia so complicit that it would have worked. But now they will have to accelerate their plans, and as they have openly stated, it's easier to kill a million people than control them, so we know what their back up plan is.
Isn't tomorrow 9-11???????????????????????
"indeed it would. Americans, just say no... this is all bullshit."
Listen John. 'mericans have no "FUCKING" say in the matter. Shut up and eat your "PEAS"!
Why we are governed by idjits
#13- Arm the enemy, but disarm the shitizens
Well, duh.
They are going to take AR15s from civilians and give them to FSA. They will tell the world that we are making to streets in the US safer, and while arming the Free Syrian Army (ISIL 1.02) they won't be THAT armed.
See--everyone is happy.
Arms sales to both sides is bullish for GDP. Long term replacement contracts also in place.
Liberal Democrats aka Democrats are so f**king evil and stupid like neoCons.
Rank and file Ds, and Rs, are either ignorant, or just plain as dumb as a box of rocks..hard to claim ignorance for 40 years though, so perhaps the younger members of those parties we can partially explain/forgive..
...unintended consequences... Can we get past giving space to criminals and traitors. These are intended actions. C'mon guys, let's get with the reality program. If we can't articulate it, we sure are not going to fix anything.
Agree with you Zadok. None of what IS is doing is unintended. They are following the script they were trained for and I'm sure they are well paid actors. The intentions are real the deaths of many people are and will be real but those responsible for giving the orders will not be revealed.
American public has no guts...hence no glory....
But I read the AP article in the paper is morning and said the same thing....
"Obama Plans To Fight ISIS By... Giving More Weapons To ISIS?"
I do not trust that half-cracker.
ZEBRA LOOKING BEE-AATCH!
How about his Iranian born master, or his man wife, the wookie? Who controls the Iranian? Soros?
Ice-T / Joe Pesci 2016! Black people deserve a do over and Pesci will get the job done!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo
Sounds like attacking ISIS near Baghdad is a ploy to get us used to airstrikes again, and the next ones will be over Damascus.
We will then invade Syria with support of the American people, at least those American people who think CNN is "news."