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Russian Retaliation Begins: Gazprom "Limiting EU Gas", Cuts Poland Supplies By 24% In Past Two Days
Update: Bloomberg notes that Russian gas deliveries to Europe are suddenly in accelerating flux.
- Ukraine today received request from Poland to ship 11mcm/d of Russian gas, Ihor Prokopiv, CEO of Ukraine’s pipeline operator Uktransgaz, says in Kiev. Gazprom sent note it’s ready to supply just 7mcm, Prokopiv says
- Poland halted reverse gas flow to Ukraine of 4mcm/d by 3pm Warsaw, later than initially planned, Prokopiv
And yet:
- GAZPROM SAYS GAS FLOWS TO POLAND REMAINING AT 23MCM/D
So all is well on the surface. Just don't look underneath.
Over the weekend, we commented that in response to Europe's latest, and most serious, sanction round which would finally impact Russian energy giants Rosenft, Gazprom Neft (but not Gazprom) and Transneft, "suddenly the stakes for Russia, and thus Europe, just got all too real, as Putin will now have no choice but to really ramp up the retaliatory escalation, which following the food ban can only mean one thing: a staggered reduction in gas flow to Europe."
And while Europe appears to have blown its load prematurely, with the sanctions leaked before Europe actually has the consensus to implement them (it is now a daily threat by Europe which is screaming that it will impose the sanctions any minute yet not actually doing so), Russia has no such moral quandaries and three days following our forecast, here comes Gazprom confirming once again that it is perfectly happy to play the "mutual defection" strategy in the ongoing and ever escalating game theory between Europe and Russia for one simple reason: it has all the leverage.
From Bloomberg:
- RUSSIA LIMITING EU GAS TO RESTRICT REVERSE SUPPLY TO UKRAINE
In other words, this is only the beginning as Ukraine has clearly made the case that it will plug its gas reserve gap using "reverese flow" of Russian gas in transit to Europe. More importantly, this follows news earlier today from Poland’s PGNiG which said Gazprom lowered supply by 20%-24% in past 2 days.
So is this the beginning of the quite literal, ahead of the winter, European cold war? It looks like it, although for now it is all covered up in diplomacy with Bloomberg reporting that the Russian exporter "set volumes of daily natgas deliveries to Poland at level of end of last week due to preparations for heating season in Russia, Gazprom official says by phone, asking not to be identified in line with corporate policy." That, and conveniently Gazprom decided to "carry out some maintenance work at its pipeline system in Russia." Some maintenance work which suddenly saw Poland, which is 80% reliant on Russian gas, receive up to a quarter less Russian gas...
Finally, Gazprom noted that it also has to pump additional 7.3bcm of fuel to local underground inventories for winter in next month.
To be sure, Poland refused to tip its cards, and quickly commented that it won’t be hurt "as its underground storage is full", as was to be expected simply to avoid giving Russia all the leverage, something we also explained previously, when we observed in "Here Is Why Europe Just Launched The "Nuclear Option" Against Russia" that the Europe's 2014 winter war will be between the amount of gas held in European reserves, and how long Russian companies can go without obtaining European funding.
Then again, and once again confirming it is all about leverage, and who has it, Gazeta.ru reports that it took Poland just hours to halt its reverse flow to Ukraine:
Poland has suspended gas supplies to Ukraine in reverse flow. This was stated by the head of the company "Ukrtransgaz" Igor Prokop'ev, reports RIA "Novosti."
"Not everything is so simple. Today, Russia has begun to limit the supply of gas to the Republic of Poland to thwart reverse with Poland, we learn. At two o'clock in Poland ceased to reverse the Ukraine within the 4 million cubic meters ", - he explained the situation.
Earlier Polish PGNiG reported about the reduction of Russian gas supplies by 24%.
Gazprom’s press service declines to provide immediate comments, although none is needed after taking a quick look at the European dependence on Russia gas map conveniently placed below.
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I am aware that Estonia and Lithuania is also storing little amount of gas in Incukalni. But first of all we won't need to use all of reserves because as I pointed out at end of this year we will be able to buy gas from other suppliers if needed using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaip%C4%97da_LNG_FSRU
And second, if it's state of emergency than in all states it's what you control in your border you can take over. It's not unique approach. But as I said it won't be necessary.
You'll just march down to GUM and pick up a six pack of Natural Light from the barren shelves (like in the good old days before joining the EUSSR)... In the event of a supply shock, spot delivery prices will skyrocket, then producers will start to feel either the private sector temptation or the public sector mandate of force majeure. Regardless there will be massive hording and very little supply of natural gas. Which is still is still a far cry of the act of steeling your neighbors' gas (Estonia's withdrawals from Incukalni are 50% of Latvia's -- hardly a "little amount") and both of those neighbors have twice as many active duty troops...
I live in a country with fallout shelters for 110% of the population and food stuffs for 1 year in those shelters. That doesn't mean if the gnomes go to the mattresses that my normal diet (or even caloric intake) would not be drastically changed (reduced) over the course of that year, and I don't have any issues of the krauts potentially claiming dibs on my MREs.
Yesterday it was "Evil Evil Westerners going to sanction Glorious People's Republic of Russia and stop their gas" and today it's "Glorious People's Republic of Russia retaliating by stopping their gas to the Evil, Evil Westerners!" Which is it, muh proles?
Well, it's Russia's gas. How's the saying go? "You're money's no good here".
Of course it's their gas. But it seems this story is being spun in every direction it can be to make Russia look like the good guy. To be made - incredibly - to look like the victim counter-punching the aggressor. It's laughable in the extreme. No country - whether Russia, the US, or anyone else - should be able to invade a sovereign nation with no causus belli without consequences.
Are you referring to the US funded coup in Ukraine in February by Victoria Nuland, Geoff Pyatt and their mates, or the imminent US bombing campaign on Syria?
You say "No country - whether Russia, the US, or anyone else - should be able to invade a sovereign nation with no causus belli without consequences>"
How's this for causus belli pal?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28283502
And this wasn't the first time the Ukes shelled Russian territory over the last six months. If anything Putin was too much of a pussy. The first time this sheeeit happened he should have wacked the Ukes hard but he was trying to play nice and not be provoked, which is what the USA wanted all along.
BTW... What do you think the USA would do if Mexico shelled a town inside the USA and killed Americans?
"What do you think the USA would do if Mexico shelled a town inside the USA and killed Americans?" Is this a bad joke? The US under bamster will do not one damn thing... We have already been invaded, nothing, crickets.. I take that back we are enrolling the invaders kids in our schools calling them homeless to get around enrollment rules..
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.
If you hadn't noticed, Russia dropped all the "Glorious People's Republic" crap 25 years ago. Now we're back to plain ol' Empires, doing what Empires do best. And it is difficult to keep track of who is sanctioning whom. Probably pointless, too. What does matter is who is getting energy from whom, via where. The talk-talk is just noise, providing neither light nor heat.
If you hadn't noticed, what Europe and USA done for 25 years... and ofc blame for all this Russia... Can you think something more smarter than Psakistyle?
Yesterday Europe said - sanctions for any stupid reason as USA told them. Can you update your troll level plz?
Economics, the most powerful science in existence.
Economics, the most powerful nonsense in existence.
;-)
Huntar Biden on it. Brings me back to youth. Gimme an.F gimme a U gimme a C. And its 123 what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a damn
The WAR OF VALVES begins
Nyet! " THE FIAT WARS!" TM
"The War of the Valves and Valves Naught" begun it has. - Yoda.
Out of these EU countries not one had the courage to veto further Russian sanctions. What are they blackmailed with????
DEBT and bonds! When all logical answers fail - it's always about the money!
I think Finland has seen the light and will not sanction, thay have no choice really, they get 100% of their gas from Russia, and it gets REALLY cold up there. My wife's Finnish and I have spent a winter there. So please Mr Putin, let Finland have some gas.
They voted for the sanction, I dont think they have seen any light yet. Maybe when they burn their furniture they can get some light, cause it sure won't be from Russian gas since they sanctioned Gazprom
I used to think the Finns were among the smartest people in the world. As soon as they voted for sanctions and started wanting to be in NATO, I came to the conclusion they are stupid,
Finns have more energy than Norway. Your wife might give you a clue from the name of the country. Finns use natural gas because it's cheap, not relying on it anyway. Most of the gas is stored in gas tanks of local mass transport vehicles.
Re; What are they blackmailed with????
The loss of unlimited (for now) Fed $$ to pay for their limitless social programs.
Non working people who are allowed to go hungry will not quietly lay down and die.
America pays huge salaries (bribes) to European leaders.
I think Slovakia has come out publically against the sanctions. Again they are at 99.5% and are aslo shipping gas to Ukraine, like Poland.
This is just an opening gamut...
Death Star obviously. Or something related to technology.
I see EU as weak because they have no choice. How else can you expain being pussies? What is the probability of this happening if every country knows they may be...powerless? It is a wild speculation but if you think economic sanctions would make everybody pussies, then think again. :}
Sanctions=Siege=act of war= hurts civilians.. Send the old men hunting party of neo-cons regime changers on a hunting trip and have Dick Chaney loaded full auto.. war profiteering bastards or am I missing something on the WMD side. SCOTLAND SCOTLAND SCOTLAND http://highrisesafetynyc.org/. These flag waving money printing, drug pusher(profiteers) need to stop..
Cut gas now. Force them to use Stored Gas Now. Draw Down Inventory Now.
THen this winter......
Europe is about to realize that natgas paper contracts and dominos are similar. Putin is holding domino #1 and its already tilting. Russia can fulfill physical, European natgas security is a counterparty nightmare.
Maybe Hunter Biden can send the SS Joe Biden LNG tanker with some gas this winter. On the return trip they can bring back Polish apples.
We really should chip-in on that propane tanker ship. Park it in the harbor near ?winouj?cie and wait for the Polesicles to come-up with the cash.
If you heat with propane, it's time to fill the tanks and to contract future supply. All propane users remember what happened last November.
In other news, Russia successfully tests new submarine launched nuclear ballistic missile. .......
Oh and they plan on testing 2 more. ...
"The Second Coming"
~ William Butler Yeats
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
thanks. :)
Russia has weaponized Winter for centuries. I just go to the cellar with my cup. Zelda! Make a pan of popcorn.
Indeed, Russian steppes in winter...
Where armys go to die.
Unless you are a Mongol army of Genghis Khan, which attacked the Russians in the dead of winter. Damn those Mongols were some tough shit.
The Mongols however were very well adapted for fighting during winter. In some ways they preferred it. Rivers and marshes which would be an obstacle to an invader in warmer months were used as highways when frozen over. Their tough Central Asian ponies could dig through the snow and eat the frozen grass beneath. They conquered Russia in the years 1236 to 1239.
http://www.friesian.com/mongol.htm
From the link you may have to scroll down to 1236 thru 1239.
The Mongols defeated Russia in the siege of Ryazan during the winter of 1237.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ryazan
The Mongols also defeated Russia in the siege of Kiev during the winter of 1240.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Kiev_(1240)
Cheringov and Pereyaslav were sacked by the Mongols during the winter of 1239.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27
Yes - they can take the heat and live in bitter cold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_horse
Maybe Hunter Biden can lead the charge on his horse. He looks like a Mongol(oid). His old man can lend him his shotgun.
hmmm... the Enron-California "maintenance" gambit.
Russia learning from the best.....
They did define the "energy terrorism game" didn't they?
To be sure, Poland refused to tip its cards, and quickly commented that it won’t be hurt "as its underground storage is full", as was to be expected simply to avoid giving Russia all the leverage, something we also explained previously, when we observed in "Here Is Why Europe Just Launched The "Nuclear Option" Against Russia" that the Europe's 2014 winter war will be between the amount of gas held in European reserves, and how long Russian companies can go without obtaining European funding...
Let Europe play that game and lose it all as I'm sure that Gazprom and friends were prepared well in advance of the heavy sanction(s) that came in the form of a Xmas package in that train station in Vologograd that started it all... They knew what was coming before Ukraine had it's coup!
The only players in the room and the ONLY ONES that matter are the BRIICS.
Game, set, "match" Russia!
you are not truly unhappy until they are scraping your brains off the floor
The Dutch, France, Germany, and Italy will share their gas with Poland. That has to be writtem somewhere in the EU charter.
France, Holland and Italy sharing gas with Poland? Nah, only Deutschland will have to share with Poland. Can't have Poland going with cold gas chambers. The Germans "owe" them.
The Ziocons will decree it so in the MSM, and the Germans/Mer(kel)schwein will click, salute and... just follow orders. /sarc
Speaking of Poland and MH17
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/09/mh17-dutch-report-obama-lied-again-mh1...
The Dutch preliminary report is in on the MH17 tragedy and it appears highly likely that Barack Obama was again lying, imagine that, to try to justify an increase in hostilities toward Russia. Furthermore, it would appear that the most likely explanation is that MH17 was shot down by Ukraine or an allied fighter jet (Ukraine jet piloted by a Polish NATO pilot) that was allowed within Ukrainian airspace. Due to evidence of shelling, the report naturally leads to a conclusion that the plane was in fact taken down by an air-to-air strike and not a surface-to-air missile.
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Haisenko Notes
...
Check out the pictures of the cockpit showing the bullet holes in it...
Now you know why the Ukranian Security Services pulled those air traffic controller logs asap. They would have shown the jet fighter bearing down on the radar logs coming in at an angle that could only be interperted as an attack angle not shadowing the plane from behind.
Everything points to the following
Ukraine/NATO has been shadowing commercial airliners using them as cover to bomb rebel targets. Some genuis has the idea let's spoof transponders so those Russian missle batteries targeting systems lock into the wrong plane thinking a commercial airliner is a fighter jet while thinking the fighter jet is a commercial airliner. Russians apparently are wise to this and have figured out a way around it and don't fall for the trap so IMF/NATO just shoots a airliner down directly via fighter jet then tries the 9/11 playbook i.e. blame the enemy while the emotions are raw (BEFORE people actually think and crystalize the blame in a fashion that irrationality will shout down and drown out any people who question the official line) trying to force through an escalation and power grab that they would otherwise not be able to do if they could have sold the false flag like they did with 9/11.
If those radar logs showed a Russian jet in the area they would have trumpeted it as the aha gotcha piece of evidence from day 1. But they didn't hence them being buried because they are the smoking gun showing otherwise.
This is just Russia retaliating against the specific NATO state who's people were responsible for MH17. I wonder how Eastern Europe or even the Polish people would see their government and NATO in general if the definitive proof comes out that it was a Polish NATO pilot using Ukranian credentials that shot down MH17? Can you say black swan event if that is proven.
How could someone pull the trigger and murder 200+ people? I know it is done everyday. Someone needs to out this guy but I am sure he is already dead.
Americans voted for this twice.
That's why it's time to... PIVOT.
To the ME and... enter ISIS [stage left/Syria]
"If those radar logs showed a Russian jet in the area they would have trumpeted it..."
But there WAS a Russian jet in the area: Putin's own plane. Clearly the Rebels would not have shot at him, but the Chicken Kievs would have.
You really think Putin would be stupid enough to fly over Ukranian airspace? Maybe a decoy plane but not one with him in it. Either way let's go with that assumption for a moment that a plane carrying a state leader like a 747 sized aircraft was in the airspace (even though the plane you mention was tracked publicly which means they knew also when it was in the areas to have travelled through that airspace at least a good hour before MH17. So even if we assume other it still wouldn't show any signs of improprierty if in the area in the first place because if it did you'd have known about it already. So we are back to a fighter jet coming in and shooting at least what looks to be 30 caliper bullet rounds into a commercial airliner. We are back to the same conclusion about burying the radar logs.
I had a switched transponder theory shortly after MH17 was shot down.
In Amsterdam the FSB switches transponder codes from Putin's plane to MH17. The two planes are painted the same colors. They leave Amsterdam around the same time and both fly East. Then Putin's plane with the MH17 transponder signal heads due east from Berlin while MH17 with Putin's transponder turns south toward Kiev.
Over Ukraine, the US learns that Putin's plane is off course and orders Poroshenko to have his jets force down MH17 which it thinks is Putin's plane with Putin aboard.
The Malaysian pilots still confused about the disappearance of it's plane over the Pacific, resist the order to land. By resisting a lawful order to land, Ukraine and the US think they have an opportunity to terminate Putin with prejudice, instruct their pilots to shoot down a plane with 300 passengers aboard.
NATO is not guilty here as the Netherlands would hardly agree to this.. Just the usual suspects: Obama and his military advisors.
What do you mean by "... again lying ...", have you ever heard him speak the truth ?
When supplies get tight, see who gets cut first.
And by the way master blaster is obama with the Fed's dick up his ass holding him up.
Winter will arrive as forecasted.
temperatures will be colder.
Oh well- If Putin had heard the rumours of gas storages being built up ( of course he has his intelligence sources too) and taken this action- a master stroke.
Start cutting the gas supply now so the gas storages get used up.
And when winter comes- Frozen family jewels and no sex please
"When the weathers hot and sticky, that's no time for dunking dickie. But when the frost is on the pumpkin , that's the time for dickie dunkin." So sex will be big this winter and birth rates in Europe will soar.
That's harsh, dude.
You reap what you NATO.
An American, not US subject.
He who poke bear in summer, freeze balls off in winter.
Europe runs out of natural gas and Russia runs out of cash.
How long do you think China will take a Ruble that is being printed like the US dollar?
The Ruble is no reserve currency and try as they might will not become one for a very long time - if ever.
This is how wars start (man made disasters).
When differing parties become hungry they will make foolish decisions.
Russia have enough cash for 2-3 years don't worry
As long as oil and gas is flowing through the Great Pipeline of China.
No?
Fuck Nuland.
Fuck EU.
Russia should just keep the gas flowing and let all these sanctioning, shit talking countries pay for deadbeat Ukraine's gas until they go broke.
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THIS GEOPOLITICAL NONSENSE!!!!!! Don't you people know there's a new AAPL iPhoneS6 and an NFL Player knocked his then fiancee out cold on an elevator in AC? I mean we've got to get our arms around this domestic violence problem in this country. We need to militate for a domestic violence awareness month, lots of purple ribbons and banners and increased protections for women, particularly in their innocent goldigging pursuits of professional athletes. This much I FUCKING GUARANTEE YOU: domestic violence awareness month in the NFL to follow. Right after the players shed the pink shoelaces and gloves, they can don the purple for this latest gimmick.
This round the clock coverage on RRN or Ray Rice Network news really got me thinking: this country has its priorities all fucked up. We're worried about little things like Middle East meddling/state sponsorship of terrorists, reignition of the Cold War and collapsing economic activity when we clearly need to be more sensitive to the surging menace of domestic violence. This war on women has gone on long enough. Time to shine the spotlight on what really matters: NFL players beating up their wives and girlfriends AND the spiffy new AAPL watch/phone duo.
Seriously though - THIS COUNTRY IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKED. Until heads start getting splattered on the walls by 12 gauges, we will continue our slide into complete and absolute irrelevance and decrepitude. I have NEVER IN MY FUCKING LIFE seen more media attention given to two essentially trivial matters than I did yesterday with the twin pillars of a morally, intellectually bankrupt society in Ray Rice and a fucking phone. Just goes to show how utterly simplistic this country is. To distract us is as easy as rolling out a new watch. You could have announced a full scale invasion of Pakistan yesterday and it wouldn't have made headline news.
Did you want to post this to yesterday's "11 Ways You Know You Live In A Country Run By Idiots" ?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/11-ways-you-know-you-live-count...
I hear her referred to as "ex-fiance". Does that mean she left him or married him?
If the marriage happened, then I suppose she feels that occasional knockout punch is.worth standing by her man.....or his money.....which looks like there wont be much of now.
Yeah it another example of this country going to shit.
Oh she married him. In fact, they got married the very next day. She was probably still punch drunk during the ceremony. At that point, she still assumed he'd be running the ball 20 times a night for the Ravens and making $12MM/year for the "trouble". She'll stand by her man up until her income from book contracts and other endorsements/speaking engagements outstrips his income then it's adios and a tell all book about how Ray Rice bounced my head off the wall every night while mentally tormenting me, too. But these are the national discussions this country needs to be having. We need to form octopanels to discuss this with the likes of Hannity and other men pounding their chests about how real men don't beat on their wives BUT DO invade countries on trumped up Yellow Cake bullshit fabrications and kill millions.
Here are the details. She and Ray Rice are married. He has been paid 25 million in bonus and salary the last 2 years and the money cannot be clawed back by the NFL or Ravens. He has another 10 or so millions on contract that he losses. Then the NFL commissioner comes out yesterday and says maybe Rice can serve a penalty and then be re-instated, meaning he can sign with another team for another 20 million. Rice did not kill anybody.
Not only that, who knows what she said to him in the elevator? Maybe "Nigga, your iphone sucks."
that's the funniest shit i've read all week.
Watch the Poles, Ukranians and Russians all fudge with the gas flows, reverse gas flows and so forth. Sooner or later less gas will find its way to Germany and the rest of Europe. Better not be a cold winter.
Btw, any new development in David Cameron's desperate push that the EU bans Russia from SWIFT? Just curious, as I've just come across this: Russia, China in talks to make alternative to SWIFT
By their looting and destruction of the US economy the banking mafia set in motion this ongoing collapse of the global economy and as a result we are heading towards another world war.
This will keep happening over and over until the banking mafia's monetary sytem is smashed or eventually they cause one last final war.
Gonna be a mighty cold winter in Eastern Europe!
You can say that again...
Gonna be a mighty cold winter in Eastern Europe!
This is ALL going just to Washington's plan! Now the EU and Russia are about to go to economic war, while the money printing USA sits back and takes in all the gains from the entire European area going into recession or worse. The EU leaders are whores of Washington, and are sinking their own economies on orders from Washington. How stupid! Slaves to Neocon policy cooked up in Washington and Israel. How can the EU be so stupid at a time when recession is already at their door. To now sanction Russia, their energy supplier.
As for Poland buying Russian gas and selling it on to Ukraine to get around Russian Ukrainian gas negotiations. Well, fuck Poland. These assholes are fully independent, have their own nation with very favorable borders, owning all of Prussia, but they are not happy. They need to be Washington's bitch! So fuck 'em this winter.
Putin must see, the west is at war, and he seems to think this is all very civil and normal. Idiot! They have declared military and economic war on Russia. And Washington DC is behind it all. Europe is going to fuck it self up on ordes from Washington.
Too bloody stupid.
disagree
US and Jews don't have control of it all
[blaming jews for everything is just a stupid zh thing]
Putin doesn't have it all together either
but I am sure he will take Ukraine, Poland, etc
It is written.
[blaming jews for everything is just a stupid zh thing]
Hmmm... jews you say? I could have sworn he said ISRAEL.
Here's a thought experiment for you:
When Iran or Saudi Arabia do something we disagree with, and we identify them BY NAME, do you jump up and say "blaming muslims for everything is just a stupid ZH thing?"
++plus ebear
I think Jack misspoke, and meant ZIONISTS.
NOTE: Not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Judaism* is a religion, Zionism is a political movement from the 1800s. Global Zionists have dominated National Zionists and wrapped themselves in its flag, in a classic Bait & Switch move.
p.s. Since Zionism was at one point considered a form of Racism by the UN (until the US camp had it revoked), it is perfectly OK to call these MFers "Zionist", and thus avoid their "Antisemitism" word trap. And FWIW, How can it be "anti-Semitism", when Palestinians are Semites also -- and probably of purer DNA-descendancy than the watered-down European or American Zio-Jews. Words and facts DO matter, unfortunately/fortunately.
* Judaism itself has numerous branches. Some are closer to its origins from the days of Moses, and some are closer to the (later) days of Babylonian exile and its subsequent Talmudic writings, which include some very scary (some say 'Satanic'), Hate-Crime texts toward non-Jews. Jesus himself (follower of Moses) had "Irreconcilable Differences" with the Talmud Jews (followers of Rabi writings) of his day: Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes.
Agree totally Jack.
Once again we see political elites taking actions which will damage their own struggling economies, that have nothing to do with the best interests of the people they purport to represent and everything to glorify their own power status image on the international slimeball circuit.
Our achilles heel is saudi and Putin can lever that.
@Wahoo: "Our achilles heel is saudi and Putin can lever that."
Of course he could -- if ISIS/ISIL turned towards Qatar and KSA.
But if the latest Frankenstein Monster (ISIS) were to turn on its masters, then the US & Allies would be there in a heartbeat -- to protest Saudi and own interests. Which Obola seems ready to do -- given his State of The Nation address he is set to give tonight.
Get the popcorn.
How can the EU be so stupid at a time when recession is already at their door?
I keep asking myself the same question. Then I remind myself what a senior Saudi Minister casually remarked to me once: That they (Saudis) buy off top Western politicians all the time. Said 'you'd be surprised were I to tell you some of their names'. It really might be as simple as that, supplemented by blackmail as appropriate.
The TTIP may not be good for the EU, however it will be great for the U.K. which is giving the orders and Rothschild prints their money also. Those neurons are hopelessly seared for many and they repeat over and over how the US is running the show. If there is a war, Rome won't be sending any troops and Rome will order the City of London to send as few as possible. It is usually Germany and France who get their asses shot off … well along with Poland. However if you think Hillary and McCain are in the back room making this policy you either have trouble processing information or you are engaged in perception management.
German militarism was a fools errand. Cui bono, the crown has always been nervous about Germany. America acted as mercenaries for the crown once again. And the crown is not the queen, it is the 10 mile stretch of the London financial district which presents Buckingham palace as a figure head. It should be noted that Elizabeth: Windsor is titled ‘Queen of Great Britain, and Northern Ireland. Her title is not Queen of the United Kingdom, for the United Kingdom is a Corporate entity (Not a Sovereign Government).
America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The
The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)
Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)
23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)
America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116,
"City of London is the epicenter of central banking worldwide. It is the place from which world wars have emanated and plans for global conquest are apparently hatched there even today. The fear-based dominant social themes that the power elite uses to extract wealth and power from Western middle classes have their home in the City of London. The UN and League of Nations were given birth there and the EU was likely conceived there. Every centralizing influence in the world today of any note has its roots in the City of London or its sister-municipalities, Washington, DC and the Vatican. These three "independent" city-states function as a trilogy of money power, the building blocks of the New World Order, the epicenter of an effort that apparently seeks to organize the world into one large medieval plantation." - the courtesy of www.thedailybell.com
I have plenty of gas this morning.
24% is like Russia twisting Polands nipple. Just enough to cause some unpleasantness. :)
Next time Russia will go for the balls.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/polish-reliance-on-russian-gas-drops-2014-04-01
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/27/poland-shale-baltic-ceramics-idUSL6N0O93HX20140527
Russian bear is currently stuck in a trap, will have to play with their own balls.
This is a case for the Lord High Ball Examiner, no?
SO LET'S REVIEW THE CURRENT MACRO-POLITICO-ECONOMIC EVENTS PROPPING UP THIS RECORD HIGH STOCK MARKET:
1. Russian sanctions and gas cutoff that WON'T affect the EU
2. Bankrupt Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Spain, Italy
3. Horrendous Markit numbers out of every EU country.
4. Real-estate corrapse starting in China
5. Japan Abe-nomics failing with truly horrendous numbers in every facet of the worlds 3-4th biggest economy
6. Obamacare
7. Obama
8. John Kerry
9. Prospect of Hillary entering next year
10. Iran still laughing while they work towards nuclear warhead announcement
11. Israel at war in Gaza
12. Ebola rampany in mid-continent Africa
13. Slowing growth in the U.S and the Fed turning off the spigot into the slowing
14. Yellen
15. Nato thumb up their ass with regard to Ukraine
16. Steve Jobs is dead
17. Stock market PE of 20 into slowing earnings, lower buybacks, darkpool and HFT shutdown
18. Dying volume on the NYSE
19. Argentina default with Venezuela on deck (like they care anymore, they recognize the game and play it well every 10 years)
20. El Nino winter for EU and continued drought in Southwest USA
21. Slowing growth and sky high home prices in Canada
22. Record SSDI enrollments (Clinton started this)
23. Record SNAP recipients
24. Declining educational achievement in the US vs. other countries
25. 35% of US population obese
Put my bid in for 100 shares of Tesla
4. Real-estate corrapse starting in China
OMG. I think the same people who built Chinese houses hurridly built the same houses in Napa with a foundation of straw- that somehow estimates "damages" 1000 times more than what the town was worth (before property taxes)... because that infrastructure collapses during a meager 6.0 earthquake? They must have done the assessment with REPO105 where actual gutting was taken out of the house and split among 100 houses to come up with that same number.
No seriously, Calexico Mexico fared better during that Easter earthshaker of 7.2 in 2010 than either China or Napa California did this year. On the bright side, the earthshaker got the water to start flowing through Napa again.
Japan's skyscrapers had little damage in their 2010 8.9 jolt. I don't believe their country needs any stimulus. Since the boomer "economy" only cares about real estate and "sustainability".
17. Stock market PE of 20 into slowing earnings, lower buybacks, darkpool and HFT shutdown
And this is the TRAILING PE of 20, not the fundie PE Ratio.
18. Dying volume on the NYSE
Corporations using financing from bond debt to invest in their own to prop their company's stock up. Before the HFTs use quantitative easing no interest "loans" to prop them up.
The Chitown Fed reserve cited 70% of market's volume being HFT volume.
http://www.chicagofed.org/digital_assets/publications/chicago_fed_letter...
Then cited for "safety" are arbitrary vacant unsubstantial discussions on FMUs and "just in time liquidity" to protect investors from said risk.
http://www.chicagofed.org/webpages/publications/policy_discussion_papers...
And of course the world not even looking at Non-US TReasury private sector stocks.
world.bymap.org/Investments.html
China still has that barrier to the US financial sector so they IPO'd Alibaba on teh US stock exchanges to "escape strict restriction from Hong Kong"---
24. Declining educational achievement in the US vs. other countries
Um, no. "Declining education achievement in the US" It's way dead.
MY money that is robbed by the Homer racist baby boomer tweaker defense league white trash caste system goes to the schools of Section 8 UNDERrepresented minorities (in CA, the underrepresented minority is white which condones their nepotism of glorified fat homers in lifted trucks that I pay for out of my lower middle income bracket IF I'm lucky enough to beat racial disctimination int he market to even have a wage paid in PURCHASING POWER)...
So these tweaker crotchfruit can get less than a 50% class passing rate on their national exams, while 15% of their trophy underrepresented minority latino drug dealers barely tested proficient on a national math exam and the blacks got 4%.
Their school is well funded, the staff is well paid. The staff is educated.
The parents are the problem.
I'm getting robbed on mY lack of purchasing power so these parasites getting subsidies and equity lines on houses they can't afford to all buy lifted trucks and SUVs that they can't even afford to fuel up-let alone insure, so they can drive their obese stupid kids to school to do drugs IN CLASS. Instead of studying and being remotely proficient on ANY easy national math exam.
The Kids who I outperformed in school before these national exams were in place said that these exams were EASY.
Only the punk parents are smart enough to WALK their kids to school, which is only 1/4th of a mile from where they live. I'm sure their kids might be one of the few who even passed a national exam with a proficient score.
YES I got stiffed in life and robbed.
(btw, it costs nothing to learn- I was fortunate that I went to a school with disciplined kids whom I and they figured out division during recess, before class in the 3rd grade).
The exception to the declining US achievement is CalTech. And that's only because unlike the other jackass schools like Harvard- they don't discriminate against Asians as "overrepresented minorities" to protect the racist white kleptocratic status quo"..
Too bad the latino group whines that the Asians are making school "too hard".
I'm sure somebody out of the Homer group will get a fully funded scholarship at Harvard for compensation of exploitation of their laziness.
25. 35% of US population obese
Big Pharma's natural selection either doesn't exist or it's costing way too much.
But they push only bad medicine vs. diet and exercise at the doctors as "healthcare"...the dippy boomers proved to the bureaucrats that they will toss any chemical at their minds and bodies since the summer of love without quality control..
Today those chemicals consist of "healthy" fats, no antioxidants, taurine infused drinks, kitchen sink cookies, fried oreos dipped in flouridated high fructose corn syrup and some mercury for their brain before their metformin pills, januvia, testosterone and estrogen replacement therapies, arginine and some of that coumadin.
I mean, it's the white boomers who are riding thier morbidly obese, heart diseased proned tushies in these lifted trucks/SUVs they can't afford to fuel before their white boomer affirmative action jobs that were paid for by the taxpayers who can't afford their voting majority fiscal policies and the meth/health care for their botox "for migraines" and "medical" marijuana inbetween hits of meth.
BEFORE their foodstamps.
The silly part is that if they took out a teaser rate loan on a mortgage on these realtor inflated priced homes, the cops suddenly become the "tweaker defense league" and the runners are hunted. The uppity church goers just "put up with it" because they're so weak from their statins.
There's a very real reason why the U.S. is failing in the global markets.
"9. Prospect of Hillary entering next year"
Whom is Hillary entering next year? Given that it's an Open Secret that she's a Closet (butch) Lesbian, and has been for many years.
Those who talk the loudest must be hit the hardest!!
And delinquency should not be let go unpunished. Teach them some unforgettable lessons.
Don't know why, but whenever I read about the Euro idiots supporting the Russian sanctions, this Blazing Saddles classic always comes to mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z_JOGmXpe5I
Poland never played nice with Russia so what do you expect. Reverse flow is taking the piss, so why not show these Pols some muscle.
Only in politics can a criminal operation still demand gas when it falls way behind on payment. Only in a farked up political world. In any other circumstance on the street, the mofo would have been slapped and hung to dry.
What did the EU say they were going to sanction?
"BEIJING, September 10. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia and China are discussing an issue of increasing the term of Chinese loans in national currency for Russian businesses from the current period of one year to the period of four or five years, Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Wednesday.
“The loans in yuans are currently permitted for the periods for up to one year only,” Shuvalov said in an interview with ITAR-TASS. “We have discussed today the possibility of increasing the term to four or five years.”
When did they say they were going to sanction?
BRUSSELS, September 10. /ITAR-TASS/. After almost five hours of deliberations, EU ambassadors have so far failed to come to agreement on new sanctions against Russia, the European External Action Service’s spokesperson said on Wednesday.
Maja Kocijancic told ITAR-TASS that there was yet no decision and the discussion was still in progress with no clear indication as to its possible outcome.
A European diplomatic source told ITAR-TASS earlier that at least four EU countries had spoken during the meeting for delaying the discussion until next week.
F*CK the EU LMAO
Great news, my hero Vlad is tightening his grip on the decadent corrupt western European socialist parasite regimes. The movement towards war in Europe moves forward. Meanwhile the islamic cult worshipers are gaining strength and expanding their activities, which compels the world closer to war against the primitive islamic cult worshipers.
When these two conflicts turn hot, we will have a great opportunity to clean up America by stuffing all the parasite invaders from Latin America, all the ghetto garbage, and all the entitlement parasites into uniforms, and shipping them to the front lines in these hot wars, ie trash collection, while also terminating all entitlement programs and income taxes.
Fuck that.
Just load up and shoot them.
but the entitlements for the military-industrial complxes stay, right? my oh my how predicable we are.
The Russinns didn't build that they should give their gas away for free.
Google search
European nuclear power map
Think bigger than Russian gas supply "Outcry from population for nuclear plants."
96% Polish electricity is from coal
"Greenpeace told to piss off we need more coal plants"
http://michael-hudson.com/2014/09/losing-credibility-the-imfs-new-cold-w...
Waging civil war is expensive, and Ukraine’s currency is rupturing. The black market exchange rate already is reported to have plunged by one-third. If recognized officially (once the kleptocrats have moved their money out at IMF-supported hernia rates), this would raise the country’s debt/GDP ratio to the 60 percent threshold making the debt to Russia payable immediately.
“Governments do not normally sue one another to collect their debts in national courts,” Prof. Gelpern points out. But if this should occur, the pari passu rule would prevent some debts from being annulled selectively. She therefore raises another possibility for how to prevent IMF and NATO credit from being paid to Russia for its bondholdings and gas arrears. Ukraine may claim that its debt to Russia is “odious.” This applies to situations where “an evil ruler signs contracts that burden future generations long after the ruler is deposed.” She adds that “Repudiating all debts incurred under Yanukovich would discourage lending to corrupt leaders.”
The double standard here is that instead of labeling Ukraine’s entire series of post-1991 kleptocratic governments odious, she singles out only Yanukovich, as if his predecessors and successors are not equally venal. But an even greater danger in trying to declare Ukraine’s debt “odious”: It may backfire on the United States, given its own support for military dictatorships and kleptocracies.
What's a few million Europeans freezing to death, when it's all for the glory of the Zio-Punks?
Ok tell me the % of Europeans who heat their homes with natgas, as compared to electric.
Electric heat can be added to a home in minutes.
Before we have the total population dead remember people react to reality before they sit and die....
Yes and we all have to eat a lot of beans and fart a lot to keep our factories running.
in Austria & Slovakia & Czech rep. it is 80%.
"Sol! They will freeze to death!"
"yes, but better than Zyklon Gas. Remember, WE are the Master Race!"
Putin has got to be the stupidest guy out there. He is not going to last long.
Let's look at this crisis in the context of "Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste".
Putin wants Crimea and a land bridge to it. Russia is in a long term trend of breaking apart as ethnic groups coalesce around their traditional cultures, languages, homelands, and markets. Putin feels a bite out of the Ukraine will stem the slide. No chancey, Mr. Dancey (A bone for the old Stampede Wrestling fans out there).
The Ukrainian Crisis allows Europe to wring some of the corruption out of the Ukrainian politic/economy. Questions will be raised whether the Ukrainian/Russian oligarchs about to be destroyed will be replaced with European oligarchs. Ukraine will be cleaned up and can then join the EU. Ukraine will not be another Greece or Italy.
The Ukrainian Crisis strengthens NATO in Eastern Europe. The Black Sea will become a NATO Lake. Those are clear facts. Georgia, Armenia will be cued up. Baku is next.
How much money will China invest in the Russian economy before they decide to call the shots on Russian Foreign Policy? You don't expect China to invest in Russia only to see it's investments destroyed by NATO bombing? What about Russian destruction of the Foreign markets that China needs? If the global economy goes into the toilet, what happens to the Chinese export machine?
At some point, the Chinese will ask Putin about his blind ambition to upset the applecart over a port in a NATO Lake. Where is the common sense in that? If Putin does not have a good answer, he will be replaced.
Finally someone gets it. Vald is being played for China access and control of Russian resources.
The new map has already been drawn. We can only hope Putin is strong and acting outside the system that would make us all slaves.
The best slave is one who does not think he is one.
I get to vote therefore I am not a slave.
Try leaving the country without a passport.
Try using trade or professional skills outside your country.
Try escaping a draft if it comes
Try keeping your house without paying taxes
The videos of the mountain man claiming his rights under natural law are interesting. He has some good points but ultimately it is difficult to live both outside and inside the system. I think he is doing it for convenience. He has the courts figured out though. You'd get locked up fast for fishing without a licence.
You seem to forget a rather basic point. Namely that this whole thing was started by Nuland and the 'West' for want of a better term. They provoked a violent rebellion against the democratically elected government (sure, it was corrupt as hell) and having forced them out ramped up measures against the Russian-speaking minority. Putin reacted to this provocation.
...You are playing checkers...
Beats tiddlywinks, but I suspect when this is over we'll all be playing pick up sticks.
The whipsaw action will pick up... and then Russia will fold like a cheap suit. They have no friends... only shallow pockets.
"measures against the Russian-speaking minority"
When I was in Kiev three months ago, I had an impression that actually Russian was spoken by a majority of people there. All signs were in Ukrainian but like 80+% of people on the street were talking Russian among themselves. I could hear more Ukrainian at Maidan Square but this was because of lots of "campers" from the western part of the country. I am really suspicious of the Ukrainian government Russian language usage statistics in the Ukraine.
Hey, chump. The Russians will not take NATO subversion.
I hope you have a fucking fallout shelter.
Your homo nigger president does not mind if all you American People die, as long as he has a dick to suck underground.
I mean, you know, that is what psychopaths do, man.
Within two years, the Russians will do whatever the Chinese ask of them.
The Chinese do not want to rock the global boat.
Tell that to the Philippines, the Vietnamese, the Japanese and the sailors of the 7th fleet in the South China Sea.
China wasn't trying to rock the global boat when it recently sailed close to and in front of the USS Cowpen. It was trying to ram the the US warship.
You are clueless.
China has no strategic interest in a Russian port in a NATO Lake.
The Black Sea is no more a NATO lake than the Rhine is a NATO river.
To get into the Black Sea from the Mediterranean you practically have to steam into Erdogan's ass crack and he's very fussy about who he lets up there and how long they can stay.
I'm sure you've read how Putin has breathed new life into NATO.
Well, you have to be very moribund (is very moribund possible?) to need a breath of new life.
China has every interest in Turkey. After all China and Turkey are the book-ends of Asia.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2014/02/11/turkey-leans-away-from-the-west-by-buying-chinese-defense-system
u have one upvote; I guess it is your own one.
Only spectators worry about up/down votes. Be a player...
NATO will break up before the Russian Federation does.
...Now that statement is Funny...
Actually, my friend, it appears you're the stupidest guy out there.
Congratulations.
Europe is in a long term trend of breaking apart as ethnic groups coalesce around their traditional cultures, languages, homelands, and markets. Remember the Scots? The Basques? Did you know the Gypsies want to make their own country? The Turks in Bulgaria want to make their own country too. Remember how messy Yugoslavia break up was? Just imagine all of Europe as Yugoslavia and you get the idea.
Putin doesn't want anything of that sort; it's USA who is mad at him for spoling their game in Syria. If he REALLY wanted Ukrane he would have had it by now. ALL of it. I'm still waiting for the proof there are a thousand Russian solders in Ukrane. I guess I have to wait for that proof for a looong time same as how Im still waiting for the "weapons of mass distraction" proof.
All USA can think of is divide and conqure so they think everyone else is just like them, China included. Ukraine cleaned up? Oh my god, you are SO full of it. Ukrane will have to be paying those nice IMF laons for hundreds of years. Ukrane is ALREADY beyond Greece and Italy. ALL of EU is failing miserably. Even Germany is in recession.
You really are trying way too hard, you are babbling incoherantly.
I must admit, I was worried about trying too hard. I figured I'd give it a go and if people thought I tried too hard, they would let me know.
Thanks for the observation.
TESTED TODAY
bulava
range= 5000 km
5-10= war heads
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/us-russia-nuclear-idUSKBN0H519...
Joe Biden's son is going to supply the EU with gas taken from dead Ukrainians.
The penny is dropping in Beijing by the look of it, that is if Russia gets it, China will be next in line.
O/T
September 10, 2014
Majority in China expect war with Japanhttp://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/eed84e92-38ca-11e4-a53b-00144feabdc0.html...
nope
Japan PM making deals in China
will turn against US eventualy
wheeln n dealn
(secret bunker, Tel Aviv)
"PM, our plan is working! Fuel supplies to the EU are already being cut!"
"Excellent. Soon we will have War. We shall Profit! Notify our Bankers at the B for IS!"
"Yessir!"
"We must sacrifice America, but we have almost sucked it dry. No big loss."
"More territory in Asia, Sir!"
Yes. Notify our Operatives! We are finished with the American Goi. As dumb beasts, their Deaths are meaningless."
Naw. Russia should sell them all the gas they need. Of course price adjusted up based on the economic losses realized via sanctions along with certain "administrative fees". Oh, and payable in Gold/silver only.
AS the Pollock says to the Russian with a gun pointed at his own head. Dont shoot or the Pollock gets it. Classic!!
Maybe Prussian empire apples freeze this winter?
"Here is Muh dik. Suck it, Eu-Rope."
"Yes, Bath house."
We need Tina Turner to sort out this gas embargo.........
We don't need another hero. We need heating!
what putin is trying to say to the eurozone, "are you really that fn stupid that you will freeze your people for the sake of the american zionutz?"
Who runs Barter Town?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgq4w4dqKsU
The cost of the pension system is getting unbearable in terms of finance.
Elderly can't stand cold that good.
Or am thinking too cynical?