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GBP Spikes As YouGov Poll Shows 52% "No" To Scottish Independence
An early leak?
Scottish Independence Poll (YouGov):
YES - 48% (-3)
NO - 52% (+3)— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 11, 2014
And YouGov...
Latest YouGov #IndyRef poll for the Sun/the Times: NO 52% (+3), YES 48% (-3) - http://t.co/LR4rgua8hR pic.twitter.com/t4506Xtfa2
— YouGov (@YouGov) September 11, 2014
Shows a big shift from last week...
Latest YouGov #IndyRef poll for the Sunday Times: YES 51% (+4), NO 49% (-4) - http://t.co/Byl40sBuiS pic.twitter.com/6wR4h0nD9X
— YouGov (@YouGov) September 6, 2014
And the reaction
But GBP is fading the initial ramp for now... because polls are never rigged, right?
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FREEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!
Soon as this Scottish Indepdence vote is over Count Chocula will end the bogus cease-fire and Cameron will be sending UK troops to the Ukraine and Iraq...
Is it because the Scottish Banksters have threatened to quit Scotland if the vote passes? TPTB can't let their power be eroded!
RBS and Lloyds say they will move south if ...http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/9/11/rbs-lloyds-to-movetoengl... will move
There are a lot of scare stories in the media in the UK, the BBC has gone into overdrive. The gist of it is, if Scotland says yes to independence they can kiss thousands of jobs goodbye. Now in Scotland jobs are a real issue, it will make many voters think twice.
I would like to see Scotland vote Yes, but I'm not sure if it will happen.
I'm for whatever the Scots themselves want... either way.
In the meantime it's fun to know that TPTB across the planet must be shitting themselves...
I'm pretty confident this will end with victory for the NO side. Scaremongering works, but people don't want to admit it so when some guy call around and ask, people are bold and tell the englishmen to get out, but when they stand alone in the voting box and things really matter they become cowards. And those who are still undecided will most certainly end up as majority no.
It would be a damn shame if the Queen had to give back her stolen real estate to Scotland.
they have a week to fix the vote...thats an eternity. it might even be a land slide just to show the catalonians it ain't gonna happen
Classic error, Yes peaked about 10 days early, it's over
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......
Both are failed banks & this puts the UK government on the hook for guaranteeing bad debts. It's actually good news for any Scottish government and population.
So....what is the opposite of "independence"....I'm just wondering.
I'm not independent to do a lot of things. I can't drive any vehicle I want because what I want...THEY won't register.
I'm not independent to live in any structure I want because what I "want" isn't acceptable to the code/rule makers.
I'm not independent to select my healthcare provider because the AMA twisted Washington's arm and FORCES me to see a Dr. for every little thing. (of course, the Dr.s have outsourced all that to LVNs, and RNs, but that's okay as long as we're forced to give the DR a cut.
Who in their right mind would NOT choose to be independent of any institution? Public or Private!!!
Diebold will "fix" any overage/underage on votes. The closer the vote, the better...
This is not so much a poll of sentiment as it is a graph showing near real time results of the sucess of the extortion efforts of the Bank of England on the Scottish Elite.
Labour Party dispatches 200 of it's MP stooges to Scotland on the taxpayer dime and gets heckled and harassed. Funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMXuEmqAHA
They are trying every trick in the book to keep Scotland in the UK, because if they go it take the Englands economy down.
Full on British panic indeed...
Ohhhhh well the message is clear, if your YES don't bother to vote, your beat already, right????
Utter horseshit, polls never call first time voters or those recently registered and haven't voted yet, it's sadly why Obozo won the last election handily and to everyone's shock on the right, because polls are completely designed for "likely to vote" polling, and from what I've read, the Yes on Independence camp has been registering record amounts of first time voters!
I'm predicting 60/40 yes for independence when they count them!! I said 65/35 last week, but I may have just finished watching Braveheart when I said that!
Establishment panic only. The majority of English would vote Yes.
Northumberland, Cumberland, Yorkshire, Lancashire should all break off from the south east of England. Economically it's suicide to remain with The City still in place.
UK diebold in effect, yo!
Live free or diebold
You know these poll numbers are going to be massaged by the establishment as we get closer to the day. Plus you are probably seeing more fence sitters and those who really weren't thinking about it one way or the other getting involved since it is almost time.
and no doubt give their broker an order before public release
Has anyone in the stock market ever heard of margin of error?
No. But most of them are intimately familiar with "margin".
and very familiar with error
Has anyone asked the Loch Ness Monster?
i go with the dino
Plans to re build Hadrian's wall completed some time ago....huge employment opportunities for both sides....
ROMANS GO HOME!
Romanes eunt domus! - Romans go home! - Romani andatevene a casa!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDjUsAIbWo (3:06)
I gave you a up arrow for your hilarious comment on rebuilding Hadrian's Wall.....
I think he moved to China.
This just goes to show that the HFT machines ARE attuned to twitter and other social media.
It was not much of a spike and the market was way oversold. The bigger question if how the pound will fair going forward and after the vote.
Several complex issues surround the idea of going off on their own. If Scotland wants independence then so be it, but sorting out the political and economic ties with the rest of the UK, may be difficult. Scotland has to be allowed to stand on its own two feet without the rest of the UK financially and economically supporting it. The Euro proves that more than one sovereign country cannot easily use the same currency.
Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Italy and Spain have discovered that you cannot have full independence and share a currency. Another problem is that if the UK Government is to agreeable to a separation, will Wales and Northern Ireland move towards independence? That might encourage similar movements in Catalonia, Belgium, Northern League in Italy, Basques, Cornish, and among the Poles. More on the issues surrounding the pound and an independent Scotland in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/06/british-pound-and-independant-sco...
5 million Scots (of the 65 million UK citizens) will control 90% of all of the UK's North Sea oil and gas reserves.
From what I have digested the prevailing attitude in Scotland's YES campaign is less nationalistic than against the neoliberal and neoconservative policies of consecutive UK Labour and Conservative governments.
Simlpy stated they want more jobs and less financial fraud, war and intrigue.
I think they'll make out OK..
Well, yeah, but what you are saying makes complete sense.
And that's what's wrong in a world gone into the hands of the corrupt, the neurotic, psychopaths. It must NOT make sense in order for it to work.
ZerOhead: Your post just about sums up my take on this issue..........
Actually what they want is more welfare, same as most places now. As as for that financial fraud, Scottish banks were some of the most infamous.
It will be a mess, but I support their right to make a mess of their own affairs.
"FUCK FREEDOM"
/sigh
It's just a polling result. +/- large % of error built in. If the Seccession movement fails it is on to plan B. Armed uprising by the minority party. Or not. A free Scotland could be a good thing. Let the Muslims have the UK and all the fair skinned move across the border.
The government machine is in full force. Its on full wartime propaganda mode. All 3 main political parties have joined forces with the bank of England and the BBC. Anyone in big business is now being pressurised into saying how bad it will be. The yes's dont stand a chance.
97% of scottish voters have registered. I think they realize that their vote might actually mean something at last.
The bookie line went from 7/4 just the other day (tuesday) to 10/3 today. The FX traders should look at the book-makers' odds every so often.
Bookies are your "boots on the ground" when it comes to matters like these Captain Willard.......
LOL, "wouldn't votes" and "don't knows" ...
how scientific...
YouGov is headed by the husband of Baroness Ashton, the low life non-entity now known as EU High Commissioner for Foreign Affairs. So no influence there then.
And a poll conducted yesterday but never reported on the mainstream news reported a 10% lead for 'Yes'.
But, as Stalin said, he doesn't care who votes. he just cares who counts the votes..
Sounds like a job for Diebold...
Calling Mike Connell -oops!... Retract that one!!!
" For as long as one hundred of us shall remain alive, we shall never in any wise consent submit to the rule of the English .... "
Robert Bruce , King of Scots, 1306
Now you are ruled by zionists and still complaining about 'the English'!
Damn it you bloody Scotts. Don't you know Soros is long the pound and getting hammered. Don't let him get out of this trade unscathed.
Thanks for reminding us what is important in this world.
People are lining up to register to vote...
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/11/referendum-registered-vot...
Doubt they'd do that to vote no. It'll be interesting. Labour MPs shipped into Glasgow for the campaign were given an Empire Strikes Back Imperial March welcome when the train arrived:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMXuEmqAHA
A lot of those new voters are postal, they aren't lining up. Not only postal voting but postal registration?
Stinks to high heaven. How many of the new postal voters are fake IDs made up in mass by the Brit government?
No they're lining up to register to vote. You have to be on the electoral register in order to be allowed to vote. Yes, postal registration is normal/possible too.
There are no "IDs" in the UK. There are a number of ways of proving you exist though.
Fucking great Video!
MUSSSSTTTT.....HAVE......MOAR......CENTRALIZATION......!!!!!
there is only one thing to do. regime change, sanctions, terrorism, no fly zone, mercenaries and moar propaganda for the empire.
They are going to secede based on a simple majority? A close vote means next year or two they'll regret it.
Following the secession and negotiations, there will be calls in scotland for a referendum to REJOIN the UK as a solution to the problems...
Long way to go for independence
It should be the 'Aye' or 'Nae' vote!
That reminded me of the scottish groundskeeper in the simpsons with his "keep oot!" sign.
all real Scotts with any balls have already emigrated, all the ones left in scotland are a bunch of balless skirt wearing girly men.
First, only ONE T yer pillock, but you are right, and we are all in Australia!!!
Sound the pibroch loud and high,
From John O'Groats to the Isle o' Skye!
Let a' the Clans their slogan cry
And rise and follow Charlie!
And that worked out well eh?
Scotland largely populated by Poles these days, n they are as mad as a cut snake.
No need to kill anyone this time.
How could anyone in their right mind want to remain part of one of the most evil empires in the history of mankind? Another example to prove humans are terminally insane.
Sorry Ann, generally like what you write but you're a bit off here.
The British Empire, when it existed, was relatively benign. I didn't say it was benign, just relatively so compared to most empires that have existed.
And the British Empire no longer exists, so Scotland does not face a choice about continuing to be part of that empire, just part of the UK, which currently occupies an island off the west coast of continental Europe, plus a bit of the island to its west.
Personally I'm baracking for a Yes vote to actually free the English from the anti-democratic structures supported by welfare-dependent Scotland which currently provides a stronghold for Labor governments in the UK. It is those governments whose social engineering has actively subverted national control, the economy and culture of the UK.
Vote Yes to free England.
England is a fiction.
The USSA is a fiction.
Every nation is a fiction.
Vote yes to free all 7-billion individuals!
Finally, I'd have the first chance in my life to vote.
Not that I accept the notion freedom is subject to vote.
I'm pretty sure people were always in kingdoms, operated by kings. The concept of a corporate chartered nation state is of relative novelty, but to suggest that people be freed from the concept of king and kingdom? Not happenin' unless there is a mass psychological shift, i.e. a global ascension up the consciousness ladder.
Yup, seems like humans are getting dumber, not smarter.
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But a tiny fraction of us are working on means to leave earth and be free. Fortunately, human predators can't run their enslavement game in outer space, because the time, effort and expense to find and chase after people in outer space enormously exceeds anything they might be able to recover from outer-space liberty lovers.
So yeah, humans are earth are toast... forever.
The price of being morons.
I am an engineer, and in the non-lamest sense possible, 'scientist,' as in I value experiment as my very lifeblood.
The gross misappropriation of manpower is not by accident. A team of 100 able and wise mechanical and aerospace engineers could build you the Starship Enterprise to truly work.
Even one man can go live up in space all by hisself. Believe, and work yer ass off until it comes true. :-)
p.s. as the devil Skateboarder on the other shoulder, I should mention Fuku, we're all dead, so why bother. Good night everybody.
An issue that apparently nobody but me ever mentions is... the existence of "frontiers" on earth throughout most of human history, the absense of frontiers in the past few decades, and the consequences of there being "no place to run, hide and be free" for the best, bravest, brightest and most creative ~0.001% of mankind.
I agree with you about what 100 able and wise scientist-engineers could do. Though they wouldn't be able to create warp drive or transporters, they could make a solar-system worthy spacecraft with sufficient technologies to survive in space permanently... which is the requirement to escape the human predators.
The private endeavor I'm working on gets into space in a circuitous manner, perhaps with some collaboration with Elon Musk when the time comes (not sure, depends on how everything plays out). Once we get our smarter-than-human inorganic conscious entities running faster than human consciousness, we can make 100 (or 1000, or 10,000 or more) copies and do exactly what you say... except without paying human scientists, just electric bills. At that point our internal capabilities will grow so quickly (exponentially), whether we need assistance from Elon Musk is difficult to know. But he is doing good work, apparently.
Our problem is, we cannot accept funding from government or large corporations, because they would steal the results when they were ready, and that would be the end of mankind in short order.
I doubt people realize how astronomically dangerous "the singularity" is in the hands of any government or corporation... or how magnificent the future can become for those of us who are honest, ethical, productive, benevolent human beings when we and our inorganic comrades leave earth and engineer the universe into a great place to live and play.
Wait, I thought the most evil empire ever is the U.S.
Which is why I said "one of the most". Miss that?
It doesn't matter how you vote, but who counts the votes...anything this significant guarantees fraud
Worst outcome will be a small majority for Yes. That will leave a large proportion of antagonists stuck in the UK driving ongoing instability for all.
You mean No. Yes is to leave the UK, No is to remain. A marginal No vote a nightmare for the UK government as that means this will bubble away beneath the surface and they wil be voting again within a decade and it will dominate UK politics until then,.
We're about to find out who really wears the skirts and who wears the pants in this relationship.
TPTB want "No".........they get the vote they want, just like:
Greece - multiple times
Finland
Slovakia
Ireland
The German High court
etc
etc
etc
If you check under the skirt, will you see any balls?
All within the margin of error so the actual numbers haven't really changed. It's still neck-and-neck.
There hasn't been a poll now for a week that is outside the margin of error, They are literally neck-and-neck.
Looks like the inevitable FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) campaign has had the desired effect. I can almost hear the collective sigh of relief from within Buckingham Palace that they won't have to name the new royal baby 'Scotland'.
I hear the banks are all going to relocate to England......Well fuck off then