This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
As Turkey Refuses To Join "Anti-ISIS" Coalition, John Kerry Comes Begging
It appears the 'broad coalition' that President Obama so confidently described just two days ago is crumbling faster than the Iraqi army. First UK and Germany deny support for airstrikes in Syria and now Turkey refuses to allow a U.S.-led coalition to attack jihadists in neighboring Iraq and Syria from its air bases, nor will it take part in combat operations against militants, a government official. US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Ankara this morning to 'build the coalition' but, as AFP reports, Turkish officials have already made their position clear, "Turkey will not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations." Their 'excuse': "our hands and arms are tied because of the hostages," but follows PM Erdogan's recent shunning of Obama.
US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Ankara Friday for talks aimed at building a coalition against Islamic State jihadists, a visit that comes after Turkey said it would not allow its air bases to be used for strikes on the extremists.
The top US diplomat, touring the Middle East to establish a coalition of more than 40 countries, is to meet with Turkey's leaders including President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for talks on measures to defeat the militants in Iraq and Syria.
Turkey, a NATO member and Washington's key ally in the region, is reluctant to take part in combat operations against Islamic State militants, or allow a US-led coalition to attack jihadists from its territory.
On the eve of the visit, a Turkish official told AFP: "Our hands and arms are tied because of the hostages."
The official added that Turkey will "not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations."
IS militants hold 49 Turks hostage, including diplomats and children, abducted from the Turkish consulate in Mosul in Iraq in June.
Turkey is the only Muslim country in a coalition of 10 countries who agreed to fight ISIS at the NATO summit in Newport.
Turkey can open Incirlik Air Base in the south for logistical and humanitarian operations in any U.S.-led operation, according to the official who stressed that the base would not be used for lethal air strikes.
“Turkey will not take part in any combat mission, nor supply weapons,” he said.
* * *
This is not an entire surprise given Erdogan's shunning of Obama and the decision echoes the country’s refusal to allow the U.S. to station 60,000 troops in Turkey in 2003 to invade Iraq from the north, which triggered a crisis between the two allies.
»
- 13171 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Empires don't beg. Empires demand obedience. (I gotta get me a new Empire.)
Can't we find somebody better than Herman Munster to be our Secretary of State?!
begging or blackmailing?
Maybe we should bomb the terrorists in Syria.....and arm the terrorists in Iraq.
Cause no one would expect us to do that.
We/They (not me!) are perpetually building a coalition against the USA.
Hostages r us, and we don't care cause we are the politicians.
Well, As Ole GWB Would Proclaim, "You Are Either With Us Or Against US"...
It's Still OPEN SEASON On CHRISTIANS, In That Shithole Desert...
Vietnam war traitor and purple heart scrounging scumbag, John Kerry, soliciting war from people who are against war.
Heard him described as a horse in a man costume. Frankly I credit horses with being smarter than him, and more honest...
What’s the big deal?
O’bama can do anything he wants because of executive privilege.
Obama will now order air strikes against all turkeys. Gonna be a great Thanksgiving.
This is all for public consumption. The kind of "crowd control" sometimes necessary in modern 'democracy'.
The UK, Germany and Turkey are empire members and they will report for duty as needed.
When "The Empire" is dying, former vassals are quick to smell death and change allegiances... Anybody remembers the Byzantine Empire, especially the part about its ending ?
Interesting point. Can't be discounted. Just watch their hips and not their lips.
Kinda reminds me of the story about the guy standing at the traffic lights with his squeegee (or however you spell it) and his bucket of water, offering to wash people's windscreens.
... and his mate, a little bit further up the road, throwing mud at all the cars.
This is turning into a funny farm when the turkey rejects and blows off the horse.
The u.s. is to the world what Rodney Dangerfield was to comedy...
NO RESPECT, I tell ya...
Respect is earned, not demanded...
We are all soldiers now, but not all of us have bullets, assuming we even have/are allowed guns - Gorky Park!
.
Well, screw'em then. Seriously, this is the shit that makes me go all isolationist. NATO member don't want to pay? Fine, pull out. Good luck! Don't want to deal with ISIS, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Iraq? Fine, good luck! Want the military to protect your assets, but don't want to pay taxes? Good luck!
Planned trolling much around here ? Good Luck !
And can you blame them (me)?
Being held to ransom by an agressive, violent, greedy, threatening empire run by lying, criminal psychopaths is not particularly pleasant.
And blind Freddie can see that the writing is on the wall for the USD and therefore US hegemony and the moment the US Department of Attack...ahhhrrmm...sorry...Defence falters, the opressed will abandon their special relationships like a pox-ridden whore.
did not a jew banker in germany during hitlers times have a brother in the white house funding all sides.
a rothschild sign what what
Or we could arm the governments in Syria and Iraq, and terrorists in Syria and Iraq, and bomb the governments in Syria and Iraq, and the terroists in Syria and Iraq, just be sure we have covered all bases.
But then, everyone would expect us to do that.
Neither, bringing money from the house of Saud, and promises of more.
Cynthia McKinney would be a good Secretary of State, but she'd have to be killed by ISIS or something...
Remember, Herman Munster was also Gomer Pyle.
Shazaam! Shazaam! SHAZAAM!
Hey, at least we have the first 4G president. Figure it out for yourselves.
Herman Munster was played by Fred Gwynne. (Car 54, Where Are You?, My Cousin Vinny)
Gomer Pyle was played by Jim Nabors. (The Jim Nabors Hour, Stroker Ace)
Don't you be going confusing us with the facts now.
There's a holdup in the Bronx.
Brooklyn's broken out in fights,
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights,
There's a scout troup short a child
Khruschev's due in Idlewild
Car 54 where are you?
exactly. this president sounded like he was ready to drop bombs not beg for help in this yet precious metals keep declining. I don't get any of this but time will tell....
Speaking of shunning of Obama, the Nobel Committee has officially expressed its regret over awarding the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize to him.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/239498391/Nobel-Committee-Regrets-Obama-Peace-...
That's fantastic.
Nobel Schnobel, that prize is completely worthless regardless of most of the people chosen, It gets false legitimacy by acknowledging the rare few who actually deserve the prize, then it gives its prize liberally to Zionists in the political, economic, and science fields.
officially expressed its regret over awarding the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize to him.
Sorry.....no mulligans allowed.
Own it.....cause that's all you baby.
Another who notices whats really going on
The question now is, how much moola will Kerry offer these turkish officials before they cave in? Those guys have a price and will sit till its hit.
Which makes the official statement of regret even more notable.
"Nobel Prize medals consist of 18 carat green gold plated with 24 carat gold. Before 1980 they were struck in 23 carat gold." -wikipedia
Debased actual medal reflects the debased nature of the honor itself.
Obama's foreign policy is Dy-No-Mite!
It certainly ain't no Do-Le-Mite!
Obama sure isn't the Human Tornado!
Jimmy Walker would make a much better president than Barack, "I suck dick" Obama. But Jim Nabors is a better fit to play Obama in the fantasy actor remake.
What a bunch of bizzare and twisted prattle.
Still, if you read between the contorted lines, it seems to say "Yeah, we know we screwed the pooch with the golfing Kenyan."
yeah, well there's a whole lotta regret going around these days for a lot of shit that's gone on since 2008...unfortunately, none of that regret is shared by the banksters, gov-scum, MIC, and all the other sociopaths.
Unfortunately I think that statement is a fraud.
It is not apparent on the www.nobelprize.org
It does state that 28 days until the 2014 award.
And the winner is...drumroll...Vladimir Putin.
Unless of course the rigged jury decide that Victoria Nudelman is more deserving.
Every single world leader has writen off Obama.
By January 2017, USD could lose 50% of world use assuming current avoidance rate continues.
Pentagon is literally enraged and they tell this to journalists openly now who report it.
An event "nobody saw coming" will have to happen, otherwise USD is dead and US Military would have to disband, since world would hav no use for it any longer.
By January 2017, globalism will be dead, assuming Obama still in office
By January 2017 usa collapsed
Optimist.
The RoW is not going to wait that long.
Ready or not, it starts this December at the G20 meet.
Major erosion of USD status leading to total loss will make US Military redundant.
Hence, world trade routes and energy resources are up for grab to Putin and Khamenei and Jinping who are ready to actually use force.
So, we're talking absolute world chaos.
I can't see that happening. Obama will be removed from power if he still keeps golfing
With Biden taking control of the situation ?
Excuse me while I puke.
This is why the SDR is not going to happen. The world will only accept it if the US military and MIC
are consigned to history's trash bin.At that point there will be a coup , but not of the kind some
ZH peeps want.
ekm1,
Jim Willie has validated your theory regarding the banksters & MIC with the caveat of the Euro being sacrificed.
He intimates Joan Rivers was off'd for outing Bathhouse Barry. LOL
Time for the popcorn.
WC's timeline is looking pretty prescient.
Same thing has occurred for 4000 years of documented world history.
Elite kills elite for control of REAL ASSETS.
Nothing ever changes. There is nothing new under the sun.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-ecclesiastes-1-4-11.htm
I wouldn't be sad to see the end of globalism or obama's tenure. Its what hideousness that awaits after these abominations are no more.
Nope - IM Erika is still licking his ...
Yeah.... I don't see the us military "disbanding" any time soon. That's the last straw to break. The nuclear subs & aircraft carriers alone are enough to coerce enough funding to keep the show on the road. If not, destroy the world 17 times
Kerry just needs to write a check for a few hundred billion and everything will be good.
Everybody is rejecting Zero except for the country that needs to......, us. The fucking freeloaders and loyal retards keep this guy in office.
"freeloaders and loyal retards"
You say that like they're some sort of small fringe group. They're the mainstream now, baby.
Pretty obvious the Turks are bargaining for something post Assad. They tried to false flag their troops into Syria and the Russians or somebody leaked the conversations embarassing those in charge. There is a lot going on behind the curtains.
Turkey dreams of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey doesn't know if it should hate Israel more, or ISIS more, or Assad more, or the Russians more. But whoever wins the enmity stakes, Turkey will hate Barack more, overall.
Erdogan dreams of the Ottoman Empire, but only if he can be Caliphe. I can't help but think that Erdogan's wife ought to plan for a few sister wives in the Topkapi Palace!
yeah, its called 'The House' and the 'Senate' keeping him in there.
Well we have Guam and New Caledonia and of course we have the support of the American people and the 57 states that make up the United States. Britain and Germany OK fighting isis, bombing Syria not so much. Of course the moderate rebels, freedom fighter formerly know as whatever will be all to willing to help take our money and weapons to help fight Assad, then us in the future fight us again.
Turning into a 'Nam thing.
Bomb the hell out of them, but can't touch'em when they retreat into Laos...err...Syria.
Except that a major reason for the drill is to bomb Assad.
Never try using a horse to do a man's job.
When you fuck your partners and walk away and leave them hanging, what do you expect to happen in the future when the "Great Appeaser" shows up wanting to be buddies? For at least the last 30 years, everyone and anyone the U.S. has "partnered" with has been screwed over by the Pols who change their mind based on the wind of their voter base. People have long memories, and when you don't back up your committments you don't get future support. Somebody tell me who the fuck would partner with the Liar-In-Chief?
www.traderzoo.mobi
This is why we should avoid encumbering alliances and that sort of thing. Don't make promises you do not intend to or cannot keep.
Your greatest yet William.
I'm somewhat hesitant to pick a side here.
How much time do I have?
But really the perfect fit would of been a dual citizen neocon in the black outfit and keep Uncle Sam where he is. How many of our boys watered that sand with their blood, how many died in Iraq and Afghanistan and dont forget the USS Liberty
"Eh William that should of been Uncle Sam in the black hooded outfit."
Shhh!
I think its McCain
OK....that's not helping.
I'm still laughing at the shadow puppets poster - wall of fame material :)
LOL!
The "Committee to Reinvade Vietnam" McCain?
Add in a couple of unaccompanied migrant children scampering through the sagebrush and an illegal picking Sam's pocket and we have a fuller picture. Bonus points for an obese American trying unsuccessfully to tie his shoes.
Couldn't you have at least put the head(s) of Obama, Kerry or John Brennan on that orange jump suit, and instead of a knife the one in black is packing a "chainsaw"?!!!...
The propaganda machine is running at full speed now, and getting good results.
THERE'S a double-feature at the Stu-niversity today - reaction to foreign and domestic terrorism produced by images that change the way we think.
"War weary" Americans were unmoved by thousands of Muslim and Christian deaths in the Mideast last year, with only 21 percent favoring military attacks on Syria. Then we saw the grotesque beheading of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff. Now 61 percent of Americans favor attacking Syria, a main base for ISIS. Both numbers are from NBC News polling.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20140912_The_ISIS-Ray_Rice_connection....
Albeit they had to use an English speaker in the beheading video to make it clearly explicable
Do you have one of these for the anthropomorphosed image of Truth? Is Priceline offering good tickets on the Lusitania?
Didn't the Turks get the memo that the whole world if against Russi.... errrr.... I mean Asad...... errrrr..... sorry its Friday.... I mean ISIS.
We've always been at war with Eurasia. We never been at war with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.
Offer them an open source solution, to government , that is backed by the Koran.
This is the world shunning America. Expect increasing occurances of same. I imagine the Turks are pretty pissed off about their consulate getting over run in the American pacified, protectorate of Iraq, while Turkey was doing the Empire's business in Syria.
Like it or not, the "world" is not shunning the US. Most important nations (ie, Germany, France, Great Britain, etc) still take direction from the US. Take all predictions of a dollar or stock market collapse with a grain (or two) of salt. TPTB have too much invested to let this happen without a fight. Been reading ZH for two years or so and the stock market has been under "imminent collapse" watch the whole time. Never underestimate the tenacity or ability of the powers that be to keep the the status quo limping along. I think a collapse could happen tomorrow or years from now... I feel for the next generation who will suffer for the disastrous policies of the FED and US "leadership".
Oh fer Pete's sake! Just how many times do we have to receive central banks from European (particularly, British) banksters and how many wars/conflicts do we have to be involved in with the British (our "special relationship"!!!) to well and truly observe what tail wags what dog? Hmmmm?
kerry on tape in elevator with head of turkey, who gets knocked out?
Uh...
If the US weren't leading this up, Turkey would be the country that would. They won't even do it. Which means Turkey doesn't view this as a regional threat. So how could it possibly be a threat to a country in another continent?
Also... ISIS is totally not the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4508223/isis
Right?
AND... since the Turks won't do this. Whose troops are actually going to confront these guys if Obama won't commit US troops? The iraqi army can't contain them. NO WAY on the Iranians. The Israelis wouldn't dare. And the US doesn't want the Syrian army to engage these people. THIS THING IS A TOTAL CLUSTERFUCK ALREADY.
A lot of guys are fighting a proxy war in Syria and Iraq. The Iranians to expand their Persian hold-over imperial ambitions masked by Shia solidarity, Turkey to regain the Ottoman Empire, various pipeline interests (pro-and against), Isreal to disrupt and emasculate Syria, etc, etc, etc. But everyone wants this to be a proxy war, none the less, so that is how it will stay, unless Uncle Sam intervenes with conventional power, in which case everyone will need to take out their calculators again and refigure what to do.
Kerry begging Russian help:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/kerry-wants-russia-to-...
Yes.
We want you to step aside and send the rest of your "advisors" home to Moscow along with the 40,000 Russians that have already fled so that we can murder a few hundred thousand more Syrian men, women and children that won't give up their sovereignty and land voluntarily for our "pipeline project"...
Oh and while I've got it on the brain... Could you kindly remove those Russian speaking people in Crimea cause we kinda want to take over that infrastructure and put a few NATO bases on your border as well...That one is long overdue as you already know we never honor any treaty or agreements we sign up to verbal or written!
Sorry Vladimir. It's just business!
But of course John Boy has wonderful news that all 49 Turkish hostages are alive and well and that their captors will be releasing them to Istanbul within the week!
Of course he still doesn't have any information on who initiated yet another chemical weapons attack in Syria within the last week. For that one you will need to ask Mr. Assad!...
Buffoun Hussein Obama
Put him and the horse (Kerrie) he rode in on in charge of Kenyan foreign policy.
From one empire loser to another; not tonight honey, I have a headache.
this dog erdogan is a jewisha like the qatari and the kosher house of saud and even sisi in egypt.
it is written
it is hidden
why would this organ harvesting child raping dog allow the bombing of his people his jewish tribe ohh mighty isis.
turkish training and treasure is invested in this talmudic greater israel project.
these inter rparty diputes between the traitorious little turk and the swift boated horse face man are simply time table and weapon system based.
and most important in these biblical times the fights over dividing of the iraq syrian pipeline spoils.
too little kickback for the turkic dog it seems.
maybe the turk has had it's fill of the 10s of thousands of tons of us and israeli depleted uranium dust.
a meeting of a masonic skull and bones satanist and a turkish satanic rabbi haggling over spoils tis all.
this dog erdogan is a jewisha like the qatari and the kosher house of saud.
And just like the greedy "Y"'s that trained him he wants a bigger slice of that "pie"...
Keep an eye on the coming loan for some new water cannons from the U.S. and U.K. government(s) headed for Istanbul and Ankara along with the "49 hostages"!
Forget Turkey, when the UK shuns you, your broad coalition amounts to air force personnel from numerous US states.
Meanwhile, in other news,
Kerry "wins" support of Saudis in fighting "terrorists"
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-kerry-islamic-state-201409...
Ah yes, the US "partners" in the supposed struggle against despotism, mayhem, and violent extremists.
The absurdity of it all would be laughable if it were not so pathetically tragic.
...IS militants hold 49 Turks hostage, including diplomats and children, abducted from the Turkish consulate in Mosul in Iraq in June...
Those 49 include Turkish military advisors to ISIS.
On the other hand, they do make a kinda nice excuse to not participate in O's/Horseface's cluster coalition! Whodathunkit?
Let loose the 1st of the four horses of the apocalypse on Turkey.
All quiet on the Eastern Front.
Looks like we can all ease into our "Lazy-Boy" recliners enjoy the beautiful Fall Season with the ever present northward climb of the DOW, NASDAQ and S&P along with plenty of beer and football to remind us how good the American Way really is!!!
Sleep well America. You've earned it!
Erdogan and his generals are perplexed as to why all of the covert/overt arming, training and funding of what has now become ISIS (not to mention failed false flagging) the Turkish government has carried out at the behest of NATO for the last 3 years to ensure the toppling of Assad, must now be flushed down the toilet so the US govt can save face before the entire world and carry out airstrikes on the jihadis they (CIA, MI6, Mossad, SA, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey) created.
Hence why Erdogan refuses to participate in bombing or fighting the 'rebels' his military helped create. This is all a show folks. And Obama's controllers think we're so fucking stupid that they are planning on giving $500 million in weapons to the 'moderate' FSA (ISIS) in Syria while pretending to bomb the 'radical' ISIS in Iraq.
Ultimately when they 'bomb' ISIS in Syria, Assad will view this as an act of military aggression and he has said as much, thus opening the door for a false flag in which either a US or British or Jordanian fighter jet is 'shot down by the Syrian army' giving the 'US led coalition' the casus belli it failed to acquire the same time last year with the 'chemical attack'.
This is all about accomplishing the stated goal of:
“We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq(check), and then Syria(in progress), Lebanon(next), Libya(check), Somalia(check), Sudan(check) and, finishing off, Iran” -General Wesley Clark
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166
"Erdogan and his generals..." You mean the ones recently released from jail after three years' imprisonment?
No the ones caught discussing a false flag to initiate a Turkish ground invasion of Syria.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-wages-war-on-syria-leaked-recording-confirms-turkish-false-flag-attack/5375807
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-27/here-youtube-false-flag-attack-syria-clip-erdogan-wanted-banned
That's what Erdogan gets for trying to wag the NATO out of school! Ataturk must be redlining in his grave.
Here's a thought. If somehow ISIS managed to kidnap old horse face, would Washington negotiate for his release? If he showed up in the desert with Foley's murderer beside him, knife glinting in the sun, announcing that Mr. Ed will lose his head next if Obama keeps bombing - would the drones continue to fly? Turkey doesn't want to participate and possibly see their own people (remember, they said "diplomats") killed in the operation.
The Turks could spit in John's face and he would keep smiling.
It must be the perks.
The Turks have been trying to deal with militants in their country for years. They narrowly avoiding an 'arab spring'. Of course they will NOT use any military force in another country, they are waiting for the militants in their country to start something there. Don't want to provake the militants....
My first thought was that Erdogan is paying the US back for leaking recorded phone conversations which implicated both him and his son in a corruption scandal. Turkey facilitated an end around for US sanctions on Iran which I doubt the State Dept. was happy about. Is this just payback for a payback ?
All that Mr. Herman Monster has to do to convince the Turds / Turks is Dangle the threat of recognizing the Armenian / Assirian / Greek genocides perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire in 1915 by the W. House and the TURDS will get down on their knees begging . That's been the modus Operandi of US administrations for decaades against them . . .
But , that's beside the point .
Everything's been scripted way in advance and the Turks are playing their role in the script to a TEE .
"I'd like to play me latest chart topper. It's called 'Me Fans Are Stupid Pigs"
Another Goeben affair shaping up ?
As usual , Turkey , specifically Istanbul , is the key.
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-crimean-war.html
Did all of you recall that Kerry served in Vietnam. He should therefore be able to handle all this junk with Turkey. I just got back from there and they openly dislike Obama and Lurch. But who is counting?
the big push now is because soon with iran helping rid the world of isis, they'll soon be into western sryia.
saudis willing to help, why does kerry need turkey, fly out of saudi arabia, just as in iraq war, or jordan, isreal, or iraq itself.
i thought there was talk of brics in turkey not long ago.