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UK's Cameron Warns Scots "No Way Back" As Independence Vote Remains Too Close To Call
With polls and surveys showing a slight bias to a "No" vote for Scottish Independence - but realistically too close to call - it appears UK Prime Minister Cameron has once again flip-flopped his strategy to deal with the northern menace. Initially it was one of scaremongery, warning of Scottish safety in light of global terrorism; then Cameron softened his stance proclaiming how "heartbroken" he will be if "our family was ripped apart." Now, just a day later, according to The Sunday Times, Cameron will unveil his latest push tomorrow that "there will be no way back" if they vote for independence, warning that a split from the U.K. will see the two countries go their separate ways forever, with the vote result a "once-and-for-all decision." Media bias is increasingly evident as the establishment unleashes its last minute full court press promising Scots "can have the best of both worlds." if they back the union...
With polls too close to call (though obviously plenty to chery pick for both sides). Excluding don’t knows, the Yes shares in the 8 different companies/methods are:
- ICM (online) 54%
- Panelbase (online) 49%
- ICM (phone) 49%
- TNS (face to face) 49%
- YouGov (online) 48%
- Opinium (online) 47%
- Survation (online) 47%
- Survation (phone) 46%
As The Sunday Times reports,
In a speech in Scotland tonight Mr Cameron will warn voters that there will be “no way back” if they vote to leave Britain.
Going on the attack, he will abandon his “love-bombing” strategy of the past week and will warn: “If Scotland votes ‘yes’, the UK will split and we will go our separate ways for ever.”
On a trip to Aberdeen — his 10th and last visit to Scotland during the campaign — he will say: “We must be very clear that there’s no going back from this. No rerun. This is a once-and-for-all decision.”
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In the event of a “no” vote, Mr Cameron has promised Scotland complete control of income tax in a new “devo max” deal.
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Mr Cameron’s speech in Aberdeen is designed to target those in the northeast of Scotland who once voted Tory and then turned to the SNP but who are now wavering over independence.
A senior Downing Street source said: “There are rock-solid people on both sides who a nuclear bomb would not shift. The people who are undecided seem to think that maybe they could go back. The message will be this is a complete divorce. There will be no rerun. When it’s over, it’s over.”
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They want to move the Muslims to Scotland?
That makes sense.
All Four Wheels Come Off The Anglo-American Juggernaut
We'll never let you go back to giving your Scottish North Sea oil to England in return for paper. Never.
Whose counting these votes? Just curious....
Rothschilds
If that doesn't "seal the deal" for independence, nothing will.
David Cameron's source for his strategy of threatening the Scots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JOGmXpe5I
Putin Plays Chess While Obama (and Cameron) Can’t Even Play Checkers — MUST VIEW!
fock you camerun!
FREEDOM!!! FREEDOM!!! FREEDOM!!!
Scots, have you soon forgotten? When the Crown tried to breed out your independence? "Fornication Under the Command of the King"... Ring any bells????
Fuck is proto Germanic in origin ...see "fokke"
I read it had origins in 17th century, chalked on rapists cell doors as an acronym of For Unclean Carnal Knowledge. Don't know how accurate that is, or if it was otherwise a play on words.
The English can store their money in Scottish Bank accounts at a premium.
Scotland can export their oil to England at a better rate then Saudia Arabia.
The English need Scotland to be independant they just dont know it yet.
would be nice if it is'nt rigged.
"there will be no way back" if they vote for independence, warning that a split from the U.K. will see the two countries go their separate ways forever,
What a brilliant statesman (sarc)
No shit Dave, that's what those wanting freedom are praying for. Where do these people come from, and how clueless do you need to be today to be a politician? Sounds like he sought council from Oboma...
British Government up to there regular subterfuge and scaremongering in Scotland
Cameron is demonstrating who is the PARASITE, and who is the HOST, by his pathetic comments. It's interesting. It's also sad, that the Scots will probably chose to remain a host to the parasitic Bankerdom that Londom is.
UK has been a slow sinking ship for decades - British Empire now history
Commonwealth in disarray.
The USA is about 5 years behind them
Sorry, too busy having tea and jubilees.
Yes, do people not realize that Central Banking London and Central Banking New York are the single largest implicit taxing organizations on the planet. London can't lose it's grip on the Scots. Of course, they'll still try to do it with Pound dominance regardless.
Seek independence while you can!!!! When SHTF the entire world will revert to sub-culturalization anyway!!!
What do we threaten the Scots with next?
Lol
I was just going to type that when I read your post, the ol English Colonialist still stirs below, in all of the English elite and Royals!!
First they say no, then they "warn you politely", then they show their soft side and for just a moment, "beg you", then when it's obvious your on to their charade, the real shit comes out, the "violent threats start"!
Always the same, it could be 1770 in Scotland for how little they have learned!!
I hope the Scots do it!! Unshackled yourself from the mountains of British debt, that's what all the fear is about anyway, the English could give two shits about the Scots, if it weren't for the fact, London will be left holding the fucking USD denominated debt bag!! And once THIS example and realization hits the rest of the EU and the US too frankly, "independence" will take on a whole new meaning!!
If you like your Debt Englishman, you can fucking keep it:)
Remind yourself by whom much of that debt was incurred, and how.
Check Cameron's wiki because his tribe has been working for the red shield to finance wars for 200+ years. His tribe are from germany and Isri-hell before that. His wife's family are the same. They pretend to be nice goys.
Suprising Cameron put off his polo match and biscuts last week to come to Scotland for the first time in a few years. hope they dont fall for this sharade.
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/09/13/rupert-murdoch-arrives-scotland-speculation-grows-sun-will-declare-yes-scottish
And ties into who is doing the pols. The pols showed a steady move towards pro independence, then suddenly they changed direction and the slope of the graph changed. I would submit that the pols were/are now manipulated to make it appear closer than it is. This provides cover for the fixing of the votes when they are counted. It is harder to hid the fix when the proindependence side has a 20% lead for example.
The computers used within the voting process, either at the voting machine or the computer the voting machines tie too not only have backdoors built in but have special backdoors and software hidden in them.
Notice the UK politicians are saying this is a one time event. They do not want to have to fix the vote again as the opposition might catch on.
IMO
Stumpy, yours is one of the most insightful comments i've read on ZH in weeks, 1+
All you need is the supposedly "top secret" encryption keys to the hard drives controllers and you can read and write anything you want -- even supposedly, "deleted" things.
Even if you go back to handwritten ballots it still comes down to confidence in those that are counting them.
A few hundred fraud votes will shift the tide. I have seen this game played so many times in my home country the USSA.
Handwritten votes, not computers, although that doesn't make it any more (or less) reliable.
Many countries have come out of the clutches of the British monarchy over the last half a century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_that_have_gained_independ...
Even though Canada and Australia continue to keep the Queen as their head of state while the British monarchy enjoys grand vacations every year on the tax payer expense in all their past colonies.
This brilliant article below from Australia sums it very well. I wonder which country would like to be like Scotland who remits their oil and tax revenues to UK and then relies on state subsidies from the UK back to them.
After the Stone of Scone was brought back home, it is time to bring independence to the sovereign nation of Scotland and let them decide their own fate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone
It is interesting that in 1947, the British Civil Service determined that Scotland, if free, would have been 'as rich as Switzerland'.
A Brilliant article which sums up the problem very well. A Must Read for anyone who is still contemplating a 'No' vote to the referendum.
Scotland must brave independencehttp://jahtruth.net/stone.htm
Yes, Scotland, there will be no going back to the Demograpigs that London and the Redshields have decreed.
How do you expect England to handle the Ex-Colonies Invasion by itself? Where's your sense of Solidarity with them and with The City? /sarc
This shits been going on since Mel Gibson won the Scots independence. It's like that 2000 year old Sicilian thing. What makes this time the point of no return? I don't think so.
Scotland wants NO part of this ! ! !
But didn't Mel Gibson end up being drawn and quartered in a public square?
"Wallace’s execution in the film, while not entirely inaccurate, is considerably tamed from what was actually done to him. Like many other famous traitors he was Hanged, Drawn and Quartered: a five stage punishment where a person was hanged, cut open to expose his intestines, castrated, chopped into pieces and finally beheaded. Before the execution Wallace was stripped naked and pulled around town by horse-carriage by a rope around his ankles and after the execution dipped in tar.
The film makes note of how Wallace’s body parts and head were put up for public display and sent to “the four corners of England”. This is historically accurate.
What we see in the film is a toned down version of the Hanged, Drawn and Quartered punishment. Wallace is shown hanged and stretched, and though not explicitly shown, it’s indicated that his intestines are taken out. The slicing and castration bits are left out and instead Wallace is beheaded after he screams “Freedom!” one last time. In actuality, Wallace’s last words are unknown."
It was probably something like "Aaaaaaaarrrggghhhhhh!"
Braveheart was BS.
Here is the true story which led to those events.
Get it right Scotland.
http://members.tripod.com/sassyoh_4/americanclancummingassociation/id6.html
http://www.his.com/~rory/lordship.htmlhttps://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=881491725194515&set=vb.119075051436...
Truthseeker2.
Checked out the link and viewed the maps. Do we actually have troops in Russia and China as shown on the 2nd map? I believe Russia has had troops in the U.S. before on some kind of joint exercises but I do not think they are stationed here.
"They want to move the Muslims to Scotland?"
What a burka is a winter kilt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uFF60kYMmg
The Global Economic and Financial Control Matrix Disintegrating in Real Time
Anglo-American Juggernaut On Its Last Leg
Well...so much for the Prodigal Son...
Nonsense, they can split up. Give them a couple of years to go down the drain and then roll the tanks in!
I don't see why it is "forever", a one-way ticket, if they go down the drain they will be begging to come back on the same advantageous arrangements.
They joined, if they split why can't they join again later if both sides are in agreement?
European countries have been at war with each other many times in the past but are now all buddies in the EU.
If Scotland leaves the Union then even if they later want to rejoin they will be unlikely to get offered the same cushy deal they have now. A reunion would require the English (and Welsh) voters to also vote Yes to reunion and they will vote No unless there is a strong benefit to them (fat chance).
Once Scotland leaves then the British Labor Party is toast.The Tories will then have a stronger majority and will not want to go back. Will UKIP want to have a reunion? Maybe the Liberals will?
Here's a list of ~200 countries which have independence days. About half look like they are independence from the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_independence_days
How many have asked to come back?
that's the pint Cameron is making. a lot of yes voters act like if things go bad, they can always come back and that is not the case.
"Men, our game is ending. We have to stir up another excuse."
"I have an idea. How about Scotland goes Independent?"
"Good idea. How is our shift to new paper going?"
"Some of the guys like these Yuans. Some like the artwork on the Ruble."
A day to come seems longer than a year that's gone
-Sottish proverb
They will remain unified.
The difference in votes will be <2%.
Why? Because that's how Diebold rolls.
Paper ballots still in the UK.
hanging chads?
final decision to be rendered by the "Law Lords" of the UK Supreme Court?
No...Jeb Bush has jurisdiction I believe.
Paper and pencil...
and the poll is being run by the nationalists. :)
Scottish independence will weaken Britain and possibly push them closer to the EU. It will certainly put them in a weaker position to resist further EU integration. Be careful what you wish for, this looks a lot like a divide and conquer game.
Most definitely divide and conquer, but since TPTB seem to specialise in unforeseen (to them) outcomes, quite likely to have opposite effect!
Actually might make it easier for UKIP to gain control of parliament and get us out of the EU. I hope.
rump UK will be stronger beacuse right now Scotland is a net DRAIN on the treasury. and socialist, get rid of them save money and be able to expand free market capitalism without Sottisch Labour interference, how is that a weakening position for Britain?
@agent default,
Absolute bollocks.
Scottish independence will rid the Westminster Parliament of the Scottish contingent of seriously leftwing "the world owes us a living" socialist deadbeats.
Thus tilting the balance of power, and for a very long time, against the socialists in opposition, who have been aided and abetted, when it suits, by the lying, cheating, back stabbing Liberals.
Cameron won't need the support of the Liberals any more (not that they can be relied on anyway), he will have an adequate majority once the dispropportionate number Scottish MP's are gone
Cameron then MUST call a snap election, this will decimate the Liberals from the commons, put socialism on the back burner, and then he can resign.
With a bit of luck we'll get a true Conservative leader who will cancel Cameron's promise of a referendum and just tell the Socialist/ ex Commie apparatchik's in Europe to FUCK OFF, WE'RE OUT OF HERE.
They already had The Best of both Worlds, all these years............ It didnt work out so well ..............FUCK THE STATUS QUO !!!!!!!!
When London's calling and offering Devo Max as your saviour, best to look to one's own devices.
Between oil, whiskey and film fests, I'm sure it will all be fine.
Pro tip: Quickly develop super cheap national airline to pimp layovers in Scotland on the way to Europe a la Iceland. MAKE YOUR NEW AIRPORT SUPER NICE. Seriously. Just kick Heathrow's ass and it will rain (money).
A vote for independence and all I get is a bill for the NHS?
Dice cunts.
except oil is runing out and Scotch whisky isn't even in the top ten brands worldwide.
Perhaps, the best outcome with a YES vote will mean that UK loses its permanent security council seat in the UN. Will it still be called Great Britain? Or lesser Britain?
or the 'K'
Get those hooves a pacing queenie. You're not going to have a pan to piss in when the Scots get through with you.
The throne is not on the ballot silly.
Meet the new boss.......
Land, titles, and sexual access to young children doesn' work anymore?
These Scotts cannot be bought!
Ireland could do the same, join with Scotland, and they could be the UK from now on.
haha
Ireland could do the same? Is this the same Ireland that has been free and independent since 1923?
Well, shucks. Yeah, I remember that now you mention it.
1921
1937...
that is now being told what to do by EU cause it took a bailout. traded an english master for a german one but then again Ireland, akthough neutral, was somewhat pro German in WWII cause it was against England so...
Morning all :-)
Here Cameron, let me tell you a thing or two you child molesting protector what you are, you have the gall to rabble on to my Scotish friends about being independent from your paedophile gangs of criminals roaming aroung in the 'Houses Of Parliament', all the while covering up whats going on in guest houses all over this filthy cuntry, as you and your fucking iliterate co-horts have doubled the national debt, fucked the economy and driven at least 20,000 people to suicide.
Jibber jabbering on about another fucking parasite this cuntry has to feed at our bastard cost to the tune of millions, just because the imperial dole scoungers themselves are popping the in-bred cunt out eh?
Let me give you some advice Cameron, come and have a do up in Newcastle-upon-Tyne as soon as you like you cunt, bring Clegg, and that fucking human mistake Miliband while you are on. I'll arrange a welcoming commitee for you, and fuck the security detail, they can have the cunt just as much as you, you in-bred cunt.
And to my Scotish friends. Vote for independence, get this filthy, dirty, child molesting ridden monkey off your backs, this cuntry stands for nothing, and believes in less, it is a cess-pool of filth and degredation. Set yourselfs free of this shit house and give the rest of the people who live on these isles the shock they need to see problems we face.
Rant fucking off.
You can always count on Inthemix96 to cut to the core of the issue.
Prime Tosser Cameron: “If Scotland votes ‘yes’, the UK will split and we will go our separate ways for ever.”
Another empty promise from a shitheel politician. You'll probably need to break out the tattie peelers to hold him to his word.
Cheers Stooge. Fuck the tattie peelers on this shit hawk mate.
I would honestly keep punching this fat headed, in-bred prick till I killed him.
This country is broken, it is infested with child molesting fiends at every possible level, in every possible position of power and not just monetary bankrupt, but morally bankrupt to boot.
Voting cannot fix what is wrong on these isles my friend, but the Scotish getting out of this dire situation may make others wake and realise just how corrupt and fucking bent this country has become.
I am fucking ashamed, indeed appaled to be called 'British'. It fills me with disgust what we allow in our names.
:-(
+1 As usual.
Sad and depressing.
Dont ever put your head down Freddie.
There are millions of 96's and Freddies all over this rotten world, lets put this right my friend.
And for the record, I am a non partisan hater, I would kill the entire parliament, and the house of lords, and the fucking rest.
Never been biased against corruption me mind.
Cunts
;-)
Now there I was starting to object to all that, then I though "Nah, bollocks to it, he's right." +1
Man you're so full of shit. All fucking mouth and no trousers. You'd kill them all you say. Grow the fuck up. Why haven't you done anything then. Come on lets see if you've got the balls. Fucking keyboard warrior wanker you are!
Inthemix96,
You're unfortunately right. But as long as they'll be good men like you, there'll be hope for Britain.
Feel free to fuck off somewhere else then. That is if anyone will have you you foul tongued whinging little scouse prick.
Have you been reading aangirfan blogs again? Or was it scgnews ?
Have you been reading both aangirfan blogs again?
Inthemix,
You guys need to get together and reform the old kingdom of Northumbria. The whole north of england is getting screwed at least as badly... more... than Scotland is.
It's absolutely clear that reform from within isn't possible. The only option is to break away.
"if voting really made a difference it would be illegal"
What ever happens, it won't be because of the will of the people. All is going according to plan, no randomniss allowed.
Isn't f0r ever a comp0und w0rd?
I t0ld y0u comp0und w0rds are g0ing the way 0f the D0d0 bird.
Just doing my six monthly troll-in. How are those silver positions going zerohedgers? Bahahahhahahahhaha
You just reminded me that it's (ag)on sale... Think I'll visit my local coin shop later today.
My position has been growing...thanks for asking!
Keep stacking. :-D
in other words, your investment is losing money
in other words, your investment is losing money
Wouldn't know, personally. I'm busy on the ranch. Lots to do before winter sets in and I prefer to invest in eatables rather than shiny objects.
But in a more general sense. every day a lot of people here ( I refuse to call them "folks") turn on the news and say "not today" while you presumably say "Yeah, baby, right on". One day in the not-too-distant future, you will be saying "noooo, not today" and they will be saying "yeah, baby, right on, about damn time".
Even you cannot possibly be so dense as to play the market without a rigorous set of stop-losses programmed in to guard against the inevitable burp. What this says is that you do not trust the market either but hope to be the next-to-last sucker in line.
I checked out of the great game long ago and am quite content to miss a weekday dose of CNBC. So I have no fear of miscounting my place in the queue of people wearing "kick me" signs.
What distresses me is the emphasis upon whether or not such a move is in the financial interest of Scotland. Indepedence should not rest upon the crass belief that it is a money-making venture or not. People who are willing to remain subject provided it is personally profitable and independent only if it will improve the bottom line are not in fact truly independent at all-- but merely for sale to the highest bidder.
Nor should anyone be distracted by the once-honorable term of independence as it is currently being used. Independence in the case of deeply socialist Scotland merely means having more money to squander on utopian schemes than is currently on offer from the British Exchequer.
Clan Whitehead in the way back.
Well said.
As I see it, the Scottish referendum is as much about restoring the post-War welfare state than anything else. Thatcher remains extremely unpopular in Scotland, and much of the SNP platform relates to a renewed welfare state.
There will be general elections in the future. Whether Scots will continue to vote socialist or will change their minds is entirely irrelevant to the referendum itself.
Tarabel,
That's the most insightful thing I've heard about the referendum so far anywhere. Thank you.
I say this as a pro unionist Englishman.
You're right of course. How they'll feel if they can't eat is another matter. Game of risk, I guess.
Hmmm - Has the Red Shield - Frankfurt Branch planted a few stooges /agents favorable to them in Scotland. On a map Scotland looks like a flank to me.
Someone needs to shove a bowling ball down Cameron's throat... The MIC apparatus is in full disinformation mode this weekend.
Really. He is encouraging a yes vote by opening his pie hole.
I sure hope the Scots see it that way Winston.
There is no logical reason why they can't rejoin in the future. Camaroon is just trying to scare people.
no reason except for the fact that after separation, Scotland will be full on socialist and England will be full on conservative. and England will never hook its wagon to that socialist horse again which means the Scots will have to really bend over and take it in the butt worse than when Thatcherism ended a good part of their public dole and that flies in the face of their mel gibon FREEDOM schtick so once the two part they will never merge again,
do you think that if the Basque ever separated from Spain that they would go back?
The NWO does not like iScotland.
Love pleas, threats, scaremongering... what next, hand-wringing, tears and a handkerchief to blow his nose in on TV?
All that Scottish oil going away breaks his heart.
Cameron, go fuck yourself when the piggy bank goes dry.
Keep up the zionist terrorist threats. At the end of the day, your the one who is fucked over the unmanageable debt repayment schedule.
Fuck off Cameron, and the Queen as well. Scots hold the 4 ace of spades. Pucker your arse fuck knobs.
"Cameron will unveil his latest push tomorrow that "there will be no way back" if they vote for independence, warning that a split from the U.K. will see the two countries go their separate ways forever"
So?
UK piggy bank goes into a NIRP Status. Lost revenue goes against Geopolitical wishes. Creating a terrorist threat is the goal in balancing the books.
Book 1
Book 2
Skimming is a lifetime desire.
Walking through Glasgow you would be puzzled by the alleged support for the Nos. in Edinburgh maybe more pro-union but the overwhelming number of badges,stickers, flags and face painting Ive seen walking round this town is for a YES vote.
I think this is very strange as if you did believe the alarmist bullshit coming from NO camp then you would be fearing mass poverty starvation civil war etc and would that not motivate you to put a wee NO sign in your window?? Its clear these polls are not reflecting the mood on the ground?
If there is a Glasgow demographic likely to vote no and uptil now hiding its the poor working class labour supporters fall through online and phone polling. I suspect the SNP have knocked on enough doors and spoken to enough disillusioned Labour supporters to get a feel how this is going to go.
The No vote is bereft of grass roots support so they have relied on polls up til now that was why they were startled last week.
Ive talked to about 100 people and only 2 have said no. I reckon its gonna be a landslide Yes vote and the big story after will be how the polling got it so wrong.
I beleive the NO camp now realise that this is going to go badly for them. Alistari Darling on the tv this morning looked to be a man under a great deal of pressure. Salmond is cool as a cucumber.
Good job the punter that put the £50k bet on a No vote was using someone elses money!!!
The Urquhart Clan will pull the trigger and ask questions later. We are masters of creating hoaxes. Ie: Loch Ness Monster.
;)
Really sad because I am afraid the evil scum will steal the vote as usual. Sad to see decent people from all over - USA, Canada, Europe, UK, Scotland, Ireland, eastern Europe, etc etc being screwed over by the same NWO banskters scum.
I would bet Yes is really up 10 to 15% but they will lie about the polls and try to steal it. I think elections in Europe are less rigged than the USA so maybe there is hope.
I love this guy in Glasgow berating the 200 Labour Party members who took the train in a panic from London. A real Scot who is not afraid to get in these nicely tailored facists faces. LOL!
http://www.itv.com/news/2014-09-11/bow-down-to-your-imperial-masters-sco...
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/labour-mps-drowned-out-by-star-war...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMXuEmqAHA
I watched the video the other day and it did not register to me at the end that it was that scumbag Milliband giving a speech.
'scumbag Milliband' - the most punchable man in politics despite stiff competition
Polls are just bollocks. Who the hell is ever surveyed anyway? Surprised they get any credence (just like ratings agencies).
How on earth did the Scots get into a position where the people can chose for themselves? Think on that very thing and vote YES to get away from the Goddam Suckers
I am for Scottish independence but they should not be fools and suckers to jump to the EU-SSR if they win independence. They will be better off on their own. The EU is total shit.
Acts of Stupidity
The critters were told fifty years ago not to embed Family Law into their technology, and twenty years ago how to dismantle it. And nothing has changed, but incremental mitigation of derivative outcomes. On the assumption of European war, Putin took preemptive action, and on the assumption of world war, Obama is now taking preemptive action, because they are leading the parade of feudalism, feeling that they have no choice, if they want to maintain their own positions, and the positions of their networks. The choice for Scotland, and similarly positioned people, is whether they have sufficient natural resources to provide for their own.
Civil Law simply diverts natural resources into a capital stock duration mismatch to its own end, and seeks labor on the margin to feed it, running the economic circuit backwards, so all roads lead to Rome, the global cities gutting natural resources in wider circles and trading among themselves accordingly. Communities trading natural resources for social welfare, tourism grants and real estate inflation, all falling in the hands of civil marriage to make the dc circuit, is the problemsolution, demographic boom and bust.
You might want to set your distance, before being subjected to fascism. International trade, as it is currently structured under feudalism, does no effective work net. Whether labor feeds capital stock from natural resources, or backwards, at the margin, is a decision about how much gravity you want and the timing of its release. Natural resources are themselves a function of labor, largely by non-humans, which the political critters conveniently ignore in the pursuit of human social justice, and lament only when the natural resources are gone and the so-constructed middle class collapses, from the bottom up, leaving the upper middle class increasingly exposed, suspending civil rights to fight the terrorist bogeyman, its own creation.
The critters cannot listen, because they are penalized for listening throughout their public education training, and rewarded for compliance, with say-one-thing-and-do-another normalization. Whether you prefer to think so or not, civil law is a machine running on automatic, with behavior creating the law, to re-enforce the behavior, with sidewalk surveys employed for the purpose. The problem is not the thought leaders, employed as revolving scapegoats by the busting majority; they are just derivatives of derivatives.
The other day, a corporate exec from the trash heap knocked on my door, explaining to my wife, crocodile tears and all, why she was about to take action, but the cops were sufficiently intelligent, after their police chief was fired while on leave, in a town of empty units, in counties of empty units leading all the way back to San Francisco, not to knock. Either way, who do you suppose has the problem?
The State majority knows where I am every moment of every day, because it put me here, ‘thinking’ that I would be a convenient scapegoat outlet of last resort, at the churn. Funny, at the churn, where labor decides whether to feed capital stock or the return to natural resources, is exactly where you want to be, if you are a developer. Not so ironically, I completed my work here decades ago, before the current occupiers came, to liquidate it for the empire. I dealt with Brown’s father, when Jerry was a puppy, thinking about pot as money.
Empire currency is simple. It pays you to go the wrong way, toward Rome, burning natural resources along the way, setting up extortion toll booths, and debasing its own money in the process. The drought, the banking problems, and war are not Acts of God. They are acts of stupidity.
Labor is, the one and only exit.
The best terrorist protection for Scotland is to vote Yea and get away from war monger Cameron and the UK,
so are you saying ISIS will give a Scotland a pass in their jihad?
" Matters NOT who cast the votes,
but who counts the votes."
Black, Box. Voting.
In Murica, the elites pick and choose the best puppet that suits their purpose. The PTB pick whatever election outcome they prefer. Ron Paul was a blueprint example of their handiwork.
I hope for a YES, but fully expect a No.
99.99% of all Americans don't know that Canada is a different country. 99.995% of Amreicans think Tony Blair and David Cameron are English. 99.99% of Americans don't know that there were famines in England in the 19th century. 99.99% of Americans think the British Empire was run by Englishmen. Getting sick and tired of American commentators who know nothing about British history and cannot tell the difference between England and Great Britian. They like to remind us that we lost an empire, when the truth is we never had one.
True. 75% of 17 year old Merikans do not know Germany fought against us in WWII [pretty incredible considering all the WWII movies].
75% of 17 y.o. cannot find Idaho on a map of the USA....
86% of adult Merikans [they said 'adults' are those over 17 y.o.] cannot multiply 17x13 long hand.
...and so on. After that, and reading over some of the job applications in our HR office, nothing surprises me anymore.
David Cameron is English...
his ancestors were Chicago grain merchants from Scotland and Jewish bankers called Levita from Germany
Yup, and all I hear from American commentators is that he is English. A phony accent and 350 million people are befuddled.
And their banking business was financing wars for the Red Shield going back 200+ years. They make money murdering innocent people in wars.
and a c**t in any language
I met someone at dinner in PA last week who asked me what part of London was Liverpool in.
Vote Yes, Great Scots, and I buy Scotch forever.
And I don't even drink.
if the perception persists that the vote is that close the Scots will not gain their independence.
that's what the Banksters are counting on.
severe and immediate polarization is the only sure method of escape.
Before they can gain independence they must first lose their dependency, and what is dependency but a burden from the responsible party's perspective.
I have a bad feeling about this. I think that the zillionaire oligarchs are not happy with a yes vote. England is scared shitless of Scotland gaining independence from them. First the threat of terrorism against the Scots, then the financial threats and now they are saying if you leave you can't come back. I smell desperation and fear from England. This might be a catalyst for game changing all over Europe. Barcelona protesting, Basques as well. Everything is Balkanizing into tribal regions and ethnic boundaries. The egg heads that run the EU aren't getting much sleep lately as everything is falling apart. As the Euro falls our idiots can use that excuse to go ahead and execute the Dollar collapse plan. The rest of America will be watching football and Survivor shit and be fat, dumb and happy. Then when reality slaps them in the face as the gov teat is shut iff the FSA will raise up and burn down everything in thier path. All those MRAPs the local cops have need to get used. They (gov) can't keep this fake front up and running for ever. I think thier underground bunkers are finished and well stocked. Large sail yachts have been selling like hotcakes. Just shove off and wait it out off shore. Mega yachts have been booming for the last 18 months.
sorry for the long rant. The Vicodin and other pain meds are kicking right now.
They have even claimed that Russia might invade Scotland if they vote Yes.
"They only get restraining orders to prove how much they luv ya!"
Unfortunately for Mr Cameron and the crony capitalists who have hijacked the democratic vote, the Scottish Yes are fully aware that this split is forever. This is what we want.
His arrogance and ignorance is hard to believe and his job is on the line.
consider an independent scotland in context of a 1000-year event with bardarbunga volcano in iceland.
Would a carbon/ash/toxic fume tax help?
"Yes we can!"
Oh wait a sec...someone used that slogan already ?
To the extent of Scotland's yes vote, it will be independence of the overall extended liability's to the 'city of London' and Washington. Symbolically, the yes vote maybe remembered as the last and final down-leg of the British Empire.
Well, they still have Wales and the Isle of Mann, so the Empire will go on.
Northen Ireland, not the Isle of Mann
You need to shut the fuck up!!
Kidding, the MSM doesn't want people to know. Excellent catch Watching people eat and watch Faggot NFL Girl Ball.
Pink socks and a padded thong should renew this licensing football franchise.
We can always bring a feather duster to the next cable TV game.
Reform the kingdom of Northumbria as a federal state and join Scotland in Independence.