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Record Beheadings And The Mass Arrest Of Christians – ISIS? Or Saudi Arabia!

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

In the past month, a group of radical Islamic extremists based in the Middle East beheaded at least 23 people and enforced a ban on Christianity by arresting a group of people for practicing the faith in a private home.

No, I’m not talking about ISIS. The real culprit is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, one of the America’s closest global allies.

I have highlighted the inhumanity of the Saudi regime frequently recently in order to demonstrate the incredible hypocrisy of U.S. foreign policy. While America’s phony politicians and useless mainstream media will often hype anti-Chrtistian bigotry and humanitarian issues when it suits the status quo message, the true driver of U.S. foreign policy can be summarized with two words: CORPORATE PROFITS.

Of course, it’s not the average American who benefits from militarty-industrial complex profit margins. No, the American public is offered as a sacrifice on the alter of the cash flows for the 0.01%. The American citizenry is expected to lose its sons and daughters in battle abroad, while surrendering a middle class lifestyle at home, just so the political class and its oligarch masters can add another couple billion to their bank accounts. If American foreign policy actually had an non-economic motive to it, we wouldn’t be close allies with an inhumane feudal kingdom, which was also likely responsible for the attacks of 9/11.

As I have outlined recently:

Saudi Arabia Passes New Law that Declares Atheists “Terrorists”

Meet the U.S. Allies – Saudi Arabia Passes Draconian, Medieval Laws to Crush Dissent

Saudi Man Receives 3 Year Prison Sentence and 450 Lashes for Being Gay

Saudi Human Rights Lawyer and Activist Jailed for 15 Years for Free Speech Under New “Anti-Terror” Law

Two Congressmen Push for Release of 28-Page Document Showing Saudi Involvement in 9/11

While fake “Christian” politicians in D.C. and on television may have no problem ignoring the lack of rights in Saudi Arabia when it comes to atheists and homosexuals, they may have a harder time overlooking the following:

Dozens of Christians arrested at a prayer meeting in Saudi Arabia need America’s help, according to a key lawmaker who is pressing the State Department on their behalf.

 

Some 28 people were rounded up Friday by hard-line Islamists from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice in the home of an Indian national in the eastern Saudi city of Khafji, and their current situation is unknown, according to human rights advocates.

 

“Saudi Arabia is continuing the religious cleansing that has always been its official policy,” Nina Shea, director of the Washington-based Hudson Institute’s Center for Religious Freedom, told FoxNews.com. “It is the only nation state in the world with the official policy of banning all churches. This is enforced even though there are over 2 million Christian foreign workers in that country. Those victimized are typically poor, from Asian and African countries with weak governments.”

 

In Friday’s crackdown, several Bibles were confiscated, according to reports from the Kingdom.

This isn’t just hyperbole from FoxNews either. Human Rights Watch has been all over this for a while and in its World Report for 2013 noted the following:

Saudi Arabia does not tolerate public worship by adherents of religions other than Islam and systematically discriminates against its Muslim religious minorities, in particular Shia and Ismailis. The chief mufti in March called for the destruction of all churches in the Arabian Peninsula. In 2012, authorities made arrests for expression of religious opinion, including, in February, of Hamza Kashgari, whom Malaysia extradited to the kingdom on blasphemy charges related to his fictitious Twitter dialogue with the Prophet Muhammad.

 

In June, prosecutors arrested Ra’if Badawi on the charge of operating the Saudi Liberals website, deemed insulting to Islam. By August, all 35 Christian Ethiopian men and women arrested in December for “illicit mingling” during a religious service had been deported.

 

Saudi Arabia does not allow political or human rights associations. In December 2011, the authorities denied the Justice Center for Human Rights a license, and did not reply to requests for a license by the Saudi Human Rights Monitor, which registered in Canada in May.

Despite all of that Human Rights Watch notes that…

Saudi Arabia is a key ally of the United States and European countries. The US did not publicly criticize any Saudi human rights violations except through annual reports. Some members of the US Congress have expressed skepticism about Saudi’s policy priorities. The US concluded a $60 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia, its largest anywhere to date.

 

The European Union also failed to publicly criticize human rights abuses in the kingdom, although the Subcommittee on Human Rights of the European Parliament in May held a rare hearing on human rights in Saudi Arabia.

If the above was happening in Iran, there would already be American bombs dropping on Tehran. Our foreign policy is a total joke and the whole world knows it.

But don’t worry serfs, at least defense contractor and former Edward Snowden employer Booz Allen Hamilton is making it rain. As I noted on Twitter:

 

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Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:45 | 5221140 stacking12321
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christians suck, muslims suck, jews suck.

end all religions, end all government.

QED

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:59 | 5221181 Enslavethechild...
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Inventing Al-Queda was brilliant, location-specific to warrant going to Afghanistan. Inventing ISIS is genius, non location-specific so as to warrant lookng behind every bush in every continent for the invisible boogeyman...

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:02 | 5221191 falconflight
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None of it's invented, it's just that none of this is very important vis a vis our existence.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:35 | 5221441 wee-weed up
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Oh no... not Bandar Bush!

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:07 | 5221498 ZerOhead
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Saudi Arabia Passes New Law that Declares Atheists “Terrorists”

Holy Crap!.... I finally made it to the big leagues.. I'm officially a terrorist in Saudi Arabia.

I guess they have to start paying me money and send me around the world to kill people like the rest of the terrorists they have working for them now...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:41 | 5221554 The9thDoctor
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Christians aren't "god's chosen people" so of course the Republicans and Democrats couldn't give two hoots about them.

Now if 23 Jewish people were beheaded in Saudi Arabia, then holy smokes, that Kingdom would no longer be an "ally". The State Dept would call for sanctions, ADL and Splc would make it their front cover story for hate reports, Hollywood would make films and shows demonizing the Kingdom, etc. etc.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:49 | 5221565 falconflight
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Since there are no Jews remaining on the Arabian Peninsula, you must be referring the the Saudi Family (a/k/a closet Jews) as proffered by the faux ZH intellectuals that the Jooos control everything law of physics  world.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:00 | 5221581 The9thDoctor
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@falconflight

Your comment makes no sense. Proofread before you post.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:41 | 5221676 Davalicious
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NSA leaks show that the head of ISIS is a Jew Mossad agent. It is pretty obvious that ISIS, AQ and other "terrorist" groups are under Jew control. They have 88 lbs of Uranium that could be dumped over Israel by dfrain pipe rocket yet they do nothing. They say their priority is not Israel. Yep, sure.

The only shocker is that so many Muslims are dumb enough to follow these Kosher terrorists.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:46 | 5221697 falconflight
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Source it you obtuse four toothed hunchback.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:50 | 5221701 Enslavethechild...
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What, are you a Jew?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:56 | 5221708 falconflight
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What you'd rather a slimey nasty foreskin to pull back?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:05 | 5221719 Enslavethechild...
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Is that what you Jews do for fun when your not sucking cock?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:19 | 5221738 falconflight
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Your tribe doesn't pull back the foreskin when sucking each other off?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:22 | 5221741 Enslavethechild...
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You Jews still see others as tribal too... You just can't shake those genetics now can you...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 05:10 | 5221791 falconflight
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Hey raghead, haven't you heard, there aren't any Jews, just Ashkenasi or Khazars.  You still want me in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:22 | 5221897 Keyser
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Some are just plain stupid, while others are ignorant by choice... I believe you fit into both categories, congrats... Before you show just how fucking stupid you really are, you should do a bit of research because you are WAY behind the curve on this one... 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:20 | 5221740 falconflight
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At what age did you first have animal sex?  What's the norm for your culture?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:21 | 5221901 Keyser
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How much does trolling pay these days? Not much I would expect... 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:58 | 5221710 falconflight
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Hey goyim, you too stupid to source something so inciderary as you are suggesting?  ISIS is a zionist run op?  Source the NSA document you puspocket. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:07 | 5221722 Enslavethechild...
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THE NSA IS 100% JEWISH YOU FUCKING MORON... AND WE ALL KNOW HOW HONEST THE JEWS ARE...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:16 | 5221737 falconflight
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100 percent?  Not 90 or 80 or 70, but 100 percent.  How would you possible know such a thing? Seriously.  You must be an Arab.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:24 | 5221743 Enslavethechild...
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No I'm Christian... We Christians get real close to you Jews... So we can slit your throats when the time comes...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 05:07 | 5221790 falconflight
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An Arab Christian maybe, otherwise just a run of the mill goat fcker from Anywhere, Gaza.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 10:09 | 5222535 Panem et Circus
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you're not a Christian, you're a moron. your Savior was a Jew... do you hate Him?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:16 | 5221734 falconflight
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"Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called  ”Caliph,”  the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative."

 

That's not a source you BrainStem, that's hearsay thrice removed. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:24 | 5221744 Enslavethechild...
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Fuck you jew

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 05:05 | 5221788 falconflight
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After reading several comments of yours, it dawns on me that you and yours probably literally just crawled out of a cave somewhere over there.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 10:10 | 5222545 Panem et Circus
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ISIS is Jewish? Lol. Yes, because Jews behead people...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 08:25 | 5222021 Ward cleaver
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OMG, if they were Jewish
there'd b a "we r the world" extravaganza
with the tribe in Hollywood calling in all
favors from clients. "Hi, Brad this is Larry David"

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 08:07 | 5221982 boogerbently
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Instead of using drones to shadow and destroy these elements, we're trying to make a buck delivering pizzas.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:29 | 5221260 XitSam
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Is this sarcasm?  Al Qaeda, "The Base", wasn't location specific although they did fight in some specific places for a while.  ISIS, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, is location specific.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:35 | 5221276 Richard Feynman
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Then why has Kerry, CLINTON, OBAMA and all the NEO-LIBERAL Nazi's said that "ISIS" is coming to AMERIKKA?

Al-queda ( "The base" in Persian ); Everybody knew what it meant, it meant the place where Bin-Laden got CONTAINERS of USA CASH in the 1980's and handed it out like toilet paper.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:12 | 5221512 El Vaquero
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To frighten us.  And if they do come here, they'll say "See, we told you so, and we could have stopped them, if only we had more power!"  (To which our response should be "FUCK YOU!  You caused this, you have the CIA and the NSA and you still couldn't stop it, and FUCK YOU!")  I tend to believe that ISIS is a creation of the US that the US lost control of.  We've made a lot of enemies, and a real bona fide terrorist attack would, in a way, be of our own doing, even if unintentional.  Others on here will disagree with my opinion, and that's fine.  One thing is that very few will disagree with this:  The cocksuckers in DC will do everything in their power to not let such a crisis go to waste.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:28 | 5221611 WOD
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The US did create them, the US armed them, and the US trained them, and wants to keep them fighting, to further enrich the MIC. Just as we created, funded and trained the Mujahadin, who evolved into Al Queda after we cut off their funding, once their job was done. The US keeps creating these groups, and hasn't learned a thing from their mistakes. This Proxy Warfare has to stop.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:54 | 5221703 Enslavethechild...
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Send Ebola to Israel where it belongs

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 10:14 | 5222558 Panem et Circus
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Wow, how much hatred do you have in your heart? Not very Christ-like for a self-described Christian... "Love thy enemy" and all that.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 08:29 | 5222037 Ward cleaver
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booze very concerned about the Christians.
Now hand me a 7 iron.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:24 | 5221243 Attitude_Check
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hey stacking 12321,

 

People who spout idiot drivel that would result in total social anarchy suck.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:42 | 5221450 Overfed
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What's wrong with anarchy?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:22 | 5221528 El Vaquero
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The cocksucking sociopaths who would jockey for sheep-followers who would then form a government that involves even more forced cocksucking than the bullshit that we have today.  Government is evil, but I don't see us not having one so long as there are a certain minimum number of people.  I'd rather live without one, but I just don't see it happening.  I think that Franklin understood this dynamic that all governments slide towards tyranny.  The only option that I see is to make sure that the idea that the people can own some serious firepower is so hallowed that the tyranny must be implemented before the disarmament of the people.  Guess where we are right now?

 

I see the US splitting up.  I'm going to do what I think is best for me, but if you disagree with that, then by all means, do everything in your power to set up an anarcho-capitalist niche where ever you are and prove me wrong.  This is one thing that I could be convinced on if you had the evidence.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:38 | 5221551 Apply Force
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If you'd rather live without .gov, go to Amish country.  I think they have the "pacifist" crap wrong - I personally think non-aggression principal is the way to go, but whatever.  Maybe I'm more Gypsy, I dunno

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:54 | 5221570 El Vaquero
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I'm not a luddite either.  And the Amish have .gov in their faces.  Oh, they get religous exceptions to shit, and for the most part, they earn it through their lifestyle, but their kids still have to go to school through the 8th grade and then there's this:

 

http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/16/raw-milk-raid-on-amish-farmer

 

Who the fuck does the government think it is to tell me that I'm not allowed to purchase food without its approval?  Seriously FDA, fuck you.  Some of your zombies may think that you're teling sellers that they cannot sell without approval, but for every successful seller, there is a buyer, and your edicts have an effect on those buyers too.  You're telling me that I cannot buy the milk that is produced by the cows on this guy's farm.  If I want raw milk and there's a local dairy, let me go to the owner, tell him that I want to see if his shit is clean, and if so, let me buy the milk.  Buying a gallon of raw milk from Albertson's in this day?  That would be a full retard move.  Buying raw milk from a local farmer that lets me peep at his operation?  That should be my choice.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:18 | 5221602 falconflight
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Basic American freedoms ripped to shreds.  Most don't notice it.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:03 | 5221715 Enslavethechild...
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Thank your Jew government

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:23 | 5221742 disabledvet
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Meh. This is bi-partisan, multi-ethnic--veritable "Rainbow Coalition" of "show me the money!"

That's why we all know it's the greatest scam ever. If someone waved those dollars in our faces we'd be a sell out too...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:33 | 5221752 falconflight
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So you want to meet at the Waco I35 rest stop you cretin of so little humanity?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:24 | 5221907 Keyser
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How quaint, calling someone out to meet at a truck stop to duke it out... What a rube... 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 10:16 | 5222574 Panem et Circus
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Pelosi, Obama, Boehner... all self-described "Christians".

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:23 | 5221607 Socratic Dog
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Buying pasteurized milk from Albertsons would be the full-retard move.  That shit poisons people.  Raw milk doesn't.  It may not be what your government and media tell you, but that's a fact.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:37 | 5221621 El Vaquero
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Buying raw milk from Albertsons would be buying the cheapest corporate shit they could get onto the shelf.  In this age, that means corners would be cut.  You first.  If they didn't cut corners, the price would be astronomical.  $10/gal?  Ultrapasturized goat's milk is more expensive than that. 

 

Raw milk is not bad per se, but when you combine raw milk with our current economic system, you don't want anything to do with it if it comes from a national chain. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:25 | 5221745 disabledvet
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Put some clothes on first...then tell me about the "crime of Loius Pastuer."

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 18:27 | 5224407 Againstthelie
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What's wrong with anarchy?

That humans are egoistic, unprincipled, ruthless. Short: mankind is evil. The most dangerous predator on this planet.

Therefore only strict cultural/political/religious norms and rules from the community can keep the beast in check.

In nature all social beings avoid chaos. From the ants, over bees, to lions, wolfes, birds, apes and humans, everywhere the principle is the establishment of a natural order with the consequence of strict rules - to protect the community. Who breaks the rules must be excluded, otherwise the whole group would suffer.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:40 | 5221290 starman
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Religious freaks suck!!!! All religions should be banished!

All they create is war! !!! 

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:54 | 5221332 Elvis the Pelvis
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I've got nothing against Saudi Arabia.  Muslims need strong fascist leadership to behead them when they step out of line.  Not my problem. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:13 | 5221730 Enslavethechild...
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That's exactly right. It's not the rest of the worlds business.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:06 | 5221371 Vullsain
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If there were no religion and we were all atheists, it would be something else, language,race,culture, tribalism would still exist,the battle for resources or economic advantage, propaganda would still exist, greed,hatred,envy,bloodlust would still exist there is at least one pleasant thought to remember, someday this will all be gone. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:14 | 5221733 Enslavethechild...
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A world without Jews?
WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:48 | 5221312 starman
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Religious freaks suck!!!! All religions should be banished!

All they create is war! !!! 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:46 | 5221562 Ward no. 6
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you are correct...

even xtianity has a history of fighting as we all know...

http://usna.edu/Users/history/abels/hh315/crusades_timeline.htm

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 10:15 | 5222569 Grimaldus
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Oh really? Let's look at events leading up to the christian crusades shall we?

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html

The Islamic Crusades were very successful. The Byzantines and Persian Empires had worn themselves out with fighting, so a power vacuum existed. Into this vacuum stormed Islam.

After the timeline, two questions are posed, which are answered at length

The Timeline

630 Two years before Muhammad's death of a fever, he launches the Tabuk Crusades, in which he led 30,000 jihadists against the Byzantine Christians. He had heard a report that a huge army had amassed to attack Arabia, but the report turned out to be a false rumor. The Byzantine army never materialized. He turned around and went home, but not before extracting 'agreements' from northern tribes. They could enjoy the 'privilege' of living under Islamic 'protection' (read: not be attacked by Islam), if they paid a tax (jizya).

This tax sets the stage for Muhammad's and the later Caliphs' policies. If the attacked city or region did not want to convert to Islam, then they paid a jizya tax. If they converted, then they paid a zakat tax. Either way, money flowed back to the Islamic treasury in Arabia or to the local Muslim governor.

632—634 Under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr the Muslim Crusaders reconquer and sometimes conquer for the first time the polytheists of Arabia. These Arab polytheists had to convert to Islam or die. They did not have the choice of remaining in their faith and paying a tax. Islam does not allow for religious freedom.

633 The Muslim Crusaders, led by Khalid al—Walid, a superior but bloodthirsty military commander, whom Muhammad nicknamed the Sword of Allah for his ferocity in battle (Tabari, 8:158 / 1616—17), conquer the city of Ullays along the Euphrates River (in today's Iraq). Khalid captures and beheads so many that a nearby canal, into which the blood flowed, was called Blood Canal (Tabari 11:24 / 2034—35).

634 At the Battle of Yarmuk in Syria the Muslim Crusaders defeat the Byzantines. Today Osama bin Laden draws inspiration from the defeat, and especially from an anecdote about Khalid al—Walid. An unnamed Muslim remarks: 'The Romans are so numerous and the Muslims so few.'  To this Khalid retorts: 'How few are the Romans, and how many the Muslims! Armies become numerous only with victory and few only with defeat, not by the number of men. By God, I would love it . . . if the enemy were twice as many' (Tabari, 11:94 / 2095). Osama bin Ladin quotes Khalid and says that his fighters love death more than we in the West love life. This philosophy of death probably comes from a verse like Sura 2:96. Muhammad assesses the Jews: '[Prophet], you are sure to find them [the Jews] clinging to life more eagerly than any other people, even polytheists' (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur'an, Oxford UP, 2004; first insertion in brackets is Haleem's; the second mine).

634—644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al—Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus

636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al—Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636)

638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

638—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

639—642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

643—707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

644—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son—in—law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet's daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad's wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman's assassination. Ali's partisans win.

657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali

661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali's supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

661—680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus

673—678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad's grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.

691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad's death.

705 Abd al—Malik restores Umayyad rule.

710—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

711—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governor

732 The Muslim Crusaders stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance

749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids

756 Foundation of Umayyid amirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids

762 Foundation of Baghdad

785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

789 Rise of Idrisid amirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia

807 Caliph Harun al—Rashid orders the destruction of non—Muslim prayer houses and of the church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem

809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy

813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country

831 Muslim Crusaders capture Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy

850 Caliph al—Matawakkil orders the destruction of non—Muslim houses of prayer

855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

837—901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France

869—883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia

928—969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969)

937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places

937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked

960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

966 Anti—Christian riots in Jerusalem

969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo

c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East

973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids

1003 First persecutions by al—Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed

1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al—Hakim (see 937)

1012 Beginning of al—Hakim's oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses

1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus

1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (aka Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate

1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia

1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine

1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia

1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana

1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies

1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca

1090—1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands

1094 Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970

1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that Western Christendom launches its first Crusades.

 

Duh!

Grimaldus

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html#ixzz3DUFXefaG

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 11:19 | 5222832 xavi1951
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FINALLY!  Another person that has done some study work on Islam.  The lies that have been repeated for hundreds of years and still are, to make people think there is no threat from such a peaceful and tollerant religion.  How many people believe that the Muslims have always been in the ME and it is the Jews and Christians that are taking away the poor Muslims lands when in actuality, the Muslims slaughtered thier way across the ME and southern Europe.  There are more Mosques in France now than there are churches.  Once a devout Catholic country, the Muslims have been immigrating to France in large numbers and will soon be the majority religion.

Keep up the studying and instructing.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:25 | 5221915 Keyser
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Repeating yoursef is a sure sign of dementia... 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:04 | 5221495 kchrisc
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Politics is the confluence of stolen money and power backed by violence.

Religion, not belief, is the the politicizing of belief.

An American, not US subject.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:36 | 5221668 azat501
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It is their justice, their law system. Just like most of the Europe. 1 man can kill hunderds people and got 30 years jail time in Europe, 1 man kills another and their families decide the punishment in most of the Islamic country. They mightnot be perfecet but is there any perfect system that treat everyone equily.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:17 | 5221736 Enslavethechild...
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The Jews have stolen from and enslaved the entire world yet they are not being put in ovens. Yet.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:27 | 5221748 disabledvet
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Napoleon only got banished to an island.

Twice actually.

There is an honesty in that actually...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:59 | 5221783 falconflight
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And what is your brood's most precious possession that was stolen...a never ending spewing of inhuman filth?  just askin

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:14 | 5221887 NidStyles
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My ancestors invented much of the modern world. You can thank us Germanic descendants afterward. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:40 | 5221674 truthseeker44
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my co-worker's step-sister makes $79 /hour on the computer . She has been out of work for six months but last month her pay check was $20464 just working on the computer for a few hours. more information... www.payvalt.com

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:42 | 5221761 RazvanM
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In know somebody who knows somebody who makes $79.25 / hour on the computer. Is your co-werkers step-sister interested to work for somebody known by somebody I know?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:46 | 5221141 TeamDepends
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Moderate Muslim = Muslim who wants radical muslim to kill you.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:00 | 5221182 Richard Feynman
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A month ago NYT ran an article called "LIBERAL ZIONSIM IS DEAD"; Today there is ONLY ZIONIST-FASICSM;

"One Israeli Life is worth 1,000 Muslim lives"

I hope everyone on ZH is good at math.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:14 | 5221224 falconflight
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Any idea how many were babies repurposed as SandBags?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:26 | 5221252 Richard Feynman
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In the recent Israel/Gaza war, I think they killed 3,000 Gazan's; If you count the teenagers murdered by right-wing LIKUD fuckheads, then Israel might have lost 2 or 3; Funny now even when Gaza isn't responsible for killing Israeli's they have to pay the 1,000 to 1 price;

What is GAZA supposed to do police the right-wing Nazis in Israel?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:35 | 5221279 falconflight
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The Israelis didn't "murder" a single member of the Culture of Death.  Fatah of Arafat is the original ISIS.  I too am saddened that the thousands of Gazan missiles failed to kill thousands.  Hey, did you want 400,000 American deaths in VN so that the kill ratio was 'fair?'  Why don't you sponsor some suicide satchels for the oppressed Arabs.  Sure glad blacks in America didn't succumb to death worship.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:03 | 5221361 giovanni_f
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AIPAC troll

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:24 | 5221422 falconflight
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Certainly superior to a CAIR rectum-snooter or a David Duke skull fcker.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:04 | 5221488 giovanni_f
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AIPAC bot

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:06 | 5221496 falconflight
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I reported a couple of months ago that some of the posters convinced me to contribute, and I did.  That bumps me up the chain of command from bot/troll to sharpening the swords.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:57 | 5221641 SubjectivObject
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... oooohhh, Sharp Swords.

Test that sharpness for us, and stick one in yourself.

Then, maybe, get back with your observations.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:05 | 5221647 falconflight
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That's what you and those of your ilk are predestined to fulfill as your contribution to the march of history.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:19 | 5221739 Enslavethechild...
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Tell us how you REALLY feel, you fucking Jew parasite...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:32 | 5221750 falconflight
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You feed off of the Jew you tape worm.  You just can't see it due to your position within the bowel.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:43 | 5221762 disabledvet
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Lest it be forgotten the USA recognized Israel.

No less than General Marshall blew a gasket over that...and that was the end of his illustrious career.

It would be interesting to have a serious and objective discussion about this plain historical fact here actually. Or anywhere actually. "The man who allowed Europe to rebuild itself." He knew what war was...that it was something never to be repeated.

A Statesman.

Now we have "our war your death." I also think the American people en toto get this btw.

"Even the Nazi's understood they needed a moral authority to execute on their plan." No one likes to talk about that though...that Hitler had the best string of propaganda coups ever.

I do find it odd that people want to "be that Reich" though. Contrary to popular view they weren't atheists but "Pagans." For them the total annihilation of Germany was considered a victory.

Those folks don't exist much in Germany anymore (still are a few though.) it is sad...but obvious?...that such people exist everywhere else though.

Gotta say in full disclosure I do respect Goring. If the Jews pissed off one wrong guy it was him. In a world of "one for every ten" that guy could do the math too. He had no problem defending the Reich at Nuremberg.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:57 | 5221780 falconflight
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Yeah, his best argument was a cyanide pill.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:27 | 5221411 JR
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The Palestinians "… would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." -- Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988.

Unfortunately, pro-Israel forces control the media and only social media can counter the lies - with the truth.

Aangirfan writes, "It  should be noted that:
Before Israel came into existence, Christians were generally able to live in peace in the Middle East"

...(and cites Counter Punch Jews, Muslims and Christians Once Lived Harmoniously ).
He continues
It should be noted that:

Assad of Syria protected the Christians; Israel wants Assad toppled.

ISIS beheads Christians; Israel supports ISIS. (ISIS treated in Israeli hospitals)

The Muslim Council of France has denounced the persecution of Middle East Christians and said mosques across France would pray for them. (Muslims back Christians against ISIS)

Catholic leaders in Jerusalem are increasingly concerned about "hate crimes by Jewish extremists against Christians." (Jewish Hate Groups.

It is Israel that has stirred up the wars in the Middle East; Israel wants its Greater Israel; and that means kicking out the Christians. …

Christians Enraged With Cruz Over Pro-Israel Comments

On 10 September 2014, America's Senator Ted Cruz, a Republican representing Texas, spoke at a meeting discussing the plight of Christians in the Middle East.

Cruz said: "Christians have no greater ally than Israel."

Cruz was booed and heckled and swiftly left the stage.

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/09/ted-cruz-christians-alex-salmond-bbc-jd.html 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:03 | 5221490 falconflight
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"Assad of Syria protected the Christians; Israel wants Assad toppled."

 

Why?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:41 | 5221553 JR
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AIPAC wants U.S. air strikes against Syria because not to do so will embolden Iran’s efforts to build a nuclear weapon. So it says. It and 250 other Jewish leaders petitioned Congress to “send a message” to Tehran by punishing Assad regime’s for “barbarism.”

At the same time, Israeli leaders say they ”want Assad to be punished; they’d like it to be punishing enough that it actually makes a difference in the war but not so much that it completely takes him out.” That was Matthew Levitt, who studies the region at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

Says Levitt, “The Israelis do not think the status quo is tenable either, but they think the status quo right now is better than the war ending tomorrow, because the war ending tomorrow could be much worse. There’s got to be a tomorrow, day-after plan.”

Perhaps that’s a little too much for Obama to handle. He must be so confused he doesn’t know which way to turn

And, as Jim Willie points out, Syria stands at the door to the emergence of the Eastern Alliance, the new dominant energy pipelines, a new payment system detached from the USDollar and Anglo banks. -- Syria, Pipeline Politics, OPEC & the USDollar

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:18 | 5221598 falconflight
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Gee, so Israel regardless of the PM/Party lived in a cold, but tolerable peace with the Assads since 1973, with only an occasion burst of fighting i.e. Israel shoots down approx. 80 Syrian MIG's in one day over the Beccka Valley circa 1986, but desires the status quo to be destroyed and replaced with ISIS?!   That's highly, no very highly unlikely the calculus of the Israeli gov't. 

The IDF controls the skies of Syria at will when necessary.  Remember the IDF flying to the farthest side of Syria to destroy their nuclear facility a few years ago?  Israel doesn't need shit from the US regarding Syria.  Israel can execute a very damaging operation against the Ayatollahs, if she so decides.  Israel certainly would prefer a western alliance to do it, since if Israel conducts the war, she'll pay heavily diplomatically as she did for the raid on Saddams nuclear facility.  This is cabal crap, this is basic statecraft practiced by every nation on the Earth.  As I posted earlier, Israel will likely attack and dismember the Persians, but it will be only one facet of a much larger regional war. jmo

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:31 | 5221749 Enslavethechild...
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Jews, the culture of death, only know how to do one thing...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 08:31 | 5222051 Bunghole
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While i'm no fan of the zioqueers, you my friend are asking for the ban hammer.

Chill the fuck out.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 03:04 | 5221645 falconflight
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JR, you are the only poster who even attempted to discuss  basic geo political interests of the nation state and how it effects the interests of the involved parties.  That being the case, with so many so convinced that they understand the complex nature of bilateral and multilateral relations, it is contemptible that these BrainStems believe uttering AIPAC troll suffices for intellect.  It is embarrassing....it's like the Arab Street screaming Allah Akbar as the answer to all questions.   Occum's Razor is far more reflective on the human condition than any other explanation ever conjured.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:32 | 5221751 Enslavethechild...
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Us non-Jews do not consider you Jews as being human

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:40 | 5221759 falconflight
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You mean Mohammedans.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:49 | 5221766 Enslavethechild...
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Check your spelling. C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N-S...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:55 | 5221776 falconflight
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Nope, no Christian would spew the filth that only a muslim mother would tolerate.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:42 | 5221557 falconflight
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Which Burqua wearing eunuch junked my post/question?  Arab/Arab Apologist/Russophile/David Duke freakish  Pussies who would cry like little girls if ever at the end of a blue tempered steel barrel.

Why would the Israelis want Assad toppled?  Too chickenshyt to even answer a simple geo-political question.  Figures...change your Depends they stink up ZH to the high heavens.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:18 | 5221599 JR
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You mean the Netanyahu who said in his 2014 AIPAC speech:

“Those Syrians discovered what you've always known to be true: In the Middle East, bludgeoned by butchery and barbarism, Israel is humane; Israel is compassionate; Israel is a force for good. (Applause.)”?

That Netanyahu, who said:

“That border, that runs a hundred yards east of that field hospital, is the dividing line between decency and depravity, between compassion and cruelty. On the one side stands Israel, animated by the values we cherish, values that move us to treat sick Palestinians, thousands of them, from Gaza. They come to our hospitals. We treat them despite the fact that terrorists from Gaza hurl thousands of rockets at our cities"?

Who went on to say:

“Now, on the other side of that moral divide, steeped in blood and savagery, stand the forces of terror – Iran, Assad, Hezbollah, al- Qaida and many others. Did you ever hear about Syria sending a field hospital anywhere? Did you ever hear about Iran sending a humanitarian delegation overseas? No? You missed that memo? (Laughter.) You know why? You know why you haven't heard anything about that? Because the only thing that Iran sends abroad are rockets, terrorists and missiles to murder, maim and menace the innocent"? (Applause.)”

http://www.aish.com/jw/me/PM-Netanyahus-Speech-at-AIPAC-2014.htm

That Netanyahu? If so, he has a Brooklyn bridge he'd like to sell you.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:36 | 5221618 falconflight
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And you have any evidence to refute?  No you don't, only cabalist crap.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:34 | 5221753 Enslavethechild...
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Any crap is better than your Jew crap...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:37 | 5221757 falconflight
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Every utterance reveals just how little your lineage provided you.  It's a shame, but it's G_d's will, so don't feel so bad.  Jesus loves you, probably.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:39 | 5221622 falconflight
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BTW, you utterly ignored the question about why Israel's strategic position would be enhanced by Syria collapsing into a failed state with thousands of Jihadists seeking access to Syrian NBC munitions.   

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:35 | 5221755 Enslavethechild...
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Bomb Israel!!!

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:39 | 5221758 falconflight
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I pray the holy Redeemer avoided supplying you with offspring.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:50 | 5221768 disabledvet
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The Kingdom is running out of oil.

"Kingdom beware."

It is a geo-political fact that Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies by the way.

ISIS knows this as well. Can they control their monster? Or will it devour them all?

I say "stay tuned." This ain't Flight ME....370 (et al.)

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:53 | 5221773 falconflight
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they aren't allies just because they share one mutual interest, and it ain't Wahabbism.  Jesus

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:21 | 5221523 falconflight
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Cruz was not booed off the stage.  Disinformation dog that you are.  He called the Arab Christians consumed with hatred, and that he stood with Israel, and if they did not, he would Not stand with the ME Christians.  He finished by saying good bye and god bless and exited.  Fck you pig shit punk assed mutherfcker.  Stop your muslim pigshit lying.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:52 | 5221568 JR
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Politico: Ted Cruz booed, walks off stage…

"Sen. Ted Cruz walked off the stage and left an event hosted by a Christian organization mid-speech after being booed on Wednesday night following comments praising Israel.

"The Texas Republican senator ... was a keynote speaker at a Washington summit hosted by In Defense of Christians, a group that focuses on persecuted Christian and minority communities in the Middle East.

"According to several reports and a video taken by EWTN News Nightly and obtained The Daily Caller, Cruz upset many in the crowd by offering strong support for Israel, saying at one point: 'Christians have no greater ally than Israel' — a comment that drew boos."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/ted-cruz-booed-israel-comments-110848.html#ixzz3DSF9s2Hg

Ted, warmonger that he is, thinks that by positioning himself as the Republican Party’s strongest Israel-firster it makes him the Republican forerunner in the race for president. I think, on the other hand, that he just destroyed his chances.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:00 | 5221582 falconflight
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I heard the speech. Politico?  Are you that indoctrinated or does it just serve your own blind hatreds?  Christians of the ME have NO choice but to parrot the Muslim screed.  This isn't deep background, in the weeds intellegence (information).

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:37 | 5221756 Enslavethechild...
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Go count your money Jew...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 05:16 | 5221801 falconflight
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Got any or are you and your brood bloodsuckers on the dole?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 12:27 | 5223150 Grimaldus
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I would love to see the American restraint (aid) money withdrawn from Israel. Talk about letting loose the kraken! Izzy 72 Virgin Introduction Squads would be open for business, and business would be good.

Can't wait until the Izzy's wise up and nuke the shitstain that is islam from all around that area of the world and take back their lands in mecca and medina, where they lived for long before murdering mohammed came along.

Izzy's dont need the American bribe money paid to hold them back. And while we are at it, stop all American aid AND intervention worldwide. Let them all stew in their own juice, it aint none of our business.

Grimaldus

 

 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:31 | 5221543 El Vaquero
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I think that most Palestinians and most Israelis just want to run their fucking shops and get on with life.  This is doable, but both sides need to take control of their crazies.  If they do this, and the Israelis don't want to ensure that the Palestinians have full rights, that is the time that the Ghandi strategy would work.  If they cannot reach out to each other to move towards this, fuck'em both. 

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:53 | 5221163 ebworthen
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The the U.S.A. Military Industrial Complex (M.I.C.) and our Government are actively suppressing, arresting, and killing Christians.

The Founding Fathers, generations of Veterans, and dead Americans are rolling in their graves.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:56 | 5221778 disabledvet
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"We are all Pagans now."

I actually have a motorcycle helmet that has Celtic imagery. I do like that helmet and use it regularly.

Still...no one is going to convince me that Jesus was a bad guy.

Not trying to prostetilize...just saying. "He rode in on an ass...backwards. And brought Rome to its knees." That's more than you can say for the Celts.

The Huns did a number on the Romans though.

So did the Goths.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:10 | 5221165 Richard Feynman
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Last week on ZH we were told that Israel & USA, aka CIA & MOSSAD created ISIS;

Now what is ZH telling us this week?

Given that Saudi Government is kept alive with USA/ISRAEL FED-FIAT; I hope that you mean SAUDI is the same as saying CIA/MOSSAD.

Lastly, remember folks ..

CIA IS NOT CHRISTIAN

MOSSAD is NOT JEWISH

 

 

 

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:26 | 5221247 john39
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Saudis = Zionist shine boys. Have to use the back door to the masters mansion.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:30 | 5221261 falconflight
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Ya'll got all the answers don't cha?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:08 | 5221505 luckystars
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Yeah the Jesuits control Mossad.

ahhahahahahah

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:28 | 5221540 falconflight
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something like the hip bone is conected to the leg bone, the leg bone is connected to the foot bone?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:54 | 5221167 falconflight
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Christians of the West are weak pathetic human secularists grazing on the mantra Jesus loves you.  They are for the most part social justice droolers and there's little doubt they'll convert w/o feeling the blade of Allah calling.  jmo

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 04:53 | 5221771 Enslavethechild...
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Coming from a jew...

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 05:14 | 5221796 falconflight
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you might learn something, but being who you are....Jews more than 100 Nobel Prizes, Muslims 3.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 07:22 | 5221904 GlobalCtzn
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No western bias in the history of the Nobel prizes at all right? After Obama's Peace prize you may want to find a better yardstick. At this point the Nobel has as much cred as a Grammy (you see the shit that wins best artist at the Grammy's). Just food for thought.............

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:55 | 5221173 SofaPapa
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The people I don't understand are the people who pay any attention at all to current events, and yet do not recognize the pure hypocrisy that is US foreign policy, especially in the Middle East.  I genuinely cannot understand how anyone can support our actions there.

I knew a guy a few years ago who was a cheerleader for this kind of crap.  And his reasoning was "we're better than the alternative."  He probably still says this.  I just don't get this kind of willful blindness.  Blind patriotism.  Among the most destructive of human forces known in history, if not absolutely  the most destructive.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:59 | 5221183 falconflight
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But true patriotism would have called for the mass hanging of every Saudi family member years ago.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:49 | 5221317 MsCreant
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But gosh, if we did that, who would sell us the oil we need for our over consumptive entitled mindless lifestyles? 

Let's kick some ISIS ass, they are evil!

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:01 | 5221353 falconflight
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Relearning what being an American is, or drowning in your own vomit of self pity.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:54 | 5221467 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not good enough.  I'd also turn EVERY Wahhabist place into a "Sea of Glass".

Few, damn few ZHers have figured out that it is fucking WAHHABISM (an extremist pseudo-Sunni movement) that it the disease that's worse than Ebola plus Aids combined. 

I'm not exaggerating, as that gutter religion had done more harm to the world than any in the last 50 years.  It is the fucking Saudis who exported this shit to other Muslim countries (including Afghanistan).

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:59 | 5221479 falconflight
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Yet American pols have bowed and kissed the King's ring for a generation.  Revolution would be the only logical and moral response, but as you know humanity is rather illogical and immoral.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:36 | 5221549 El Vaquero
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Look around at our just-in-time distribution system for goods like food.  Do you know where your last meal was produced?  I don't mean where the ingredients were assembled, but where were the ingredients produced?

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 01:56 | 5221572 falconflight
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I hear you loud and clear.  Three days and the veil of civilization is torn beyond repair.  

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:08 | 5221588 El Vaquero
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Then you understand that you've got a lot of work before any revolution can approach anything resembling moral.  You need to grow quality food and use it convince others to do the same.  You don't even have to get into apocalyptic shit to do your convincing.  You just need to make them a couple of meals with quality ingredients that knock their socks off.  Save seed and offer it to them, for free when you can.  Then you need to look into how to produce other necessities.  How do you spin thread?  How do you weave fabric?  How do you make soap?  How do you do this when you won't be able to rely on anything more advanced than 19th century technology?  Even if you don't try all of the different production methods for other things, you should at least have the concepts down so that you can try and fail a few times, then get a workable method.  Start a revolution now, and our JIT system will collapse, and the death and suffering will be on an unimaginable scale.  Even if you get your tribe prepared, I wouldn't call a revolution ethical or moral, just necessary. 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:33 | 5221615 falconflight
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We talk about it routinely.  It is a vexing set of challenges, because the totality of possessing sufficient skills has a very steep learning curve.  It is a body of knowledge that nearly all Americans living within the MSA's have no knowledge of or feel the need to even consider, nevermind forming a plan and attempting implementation.  I'm humbled by our attempt to rediscover the mostly lost American values of self reliance.   In today's public square, such a goal is a suspicious activity, you know maybe domestic terrorist in the making.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 02:49 | 5221632 El Vaquero
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Fuck'em all.  If you need to live not in your mother's basement, but your grandmother's, then do it.  Do what you need in order to learn the skills.  If you need to get onto some form of welfare to survive the interrim, do it.  But understand that welfare is going to go away some day.  Your job is to learn how to live with as little outside supprt as possible.  Your job is to convince those whom you can, and to let the rest get fucked.  Your job is to survive.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:18 | 5221236 ebworthen
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Get out, don't be involved at all.  No money, no arms, no diplomacy.

Pay them market price for the oil and focus on the homeland.

Don't understand why "no foreign entaglements" wasn't clear enough.

Oh right, MONEY for the GREEDY.

Hang 'em all!!!

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:31 | 5221263 Richard Feynman
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It's easy its called "CHEAP GAS"

Kardashian KUNT

COSTCO SHOPPING, and WALMART Browsing;

Killing in the MIDDLE-EAST keeps the USA village idiots in state of NIRVANNA;

If the EBT card should die; or the TV go black; then and only then would the CIA/MOSSAD fear the USA public turn on them.

Sad to say, but the MAJORITY of USA citizens know exactly what has been going on for 50+ years, but for 25 cent a gallon gasoline, THEY LIKE IT, and DONT GIVE A FUCK.

Besides everyone knows that Arab's & Persian's are not human, and don't love their children the way western loves their children.

 

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:59 | 5221478 Kirk2NCC1701
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That was so complicated that it requires a Feynman Diagram.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:39 | 5221287 XitSam
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It is hard to change. That guy you knew would have to admit he was wrong all the years. Some people would rather deny the truth.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:53 | 5221327 deKevelioc
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LOL  Someone actually junked you.  

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:57 | 5221177 falconflight
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How many more Americans will have their lives disrupted, maimed, and/or terminated fighting for the Family Saud?  Eh?  These ZH left hand sniffers keep insisting that the US is protecting Israel from the Arabs....Ha!  Quite the contrary.

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 22:58 | 5221178 Richard Feynman
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Let's see the POLICE-STATE is executing those it hates MOST the "LIBERAL MEDIA"

So what they're doing is trying to make every 'liberal' in USA & UK to join the GOOD SHIP NAZI (CIA/MOSSAD);

A month ago NYT ran an article called "LIBERAL ZIONSIM IS DEAD"; Today there is ONLY ZIONIST-FASICSM;

In a year any left calling theselves a "LIBERAL" will be equivalent to ISIS.

Where is Radical Marijuana on this demonization of LIBERALISM?

Me thinks its to get you all ready for HILLARY-PRESIDENT-2016, already she has said that its ok to KILL palestinian children in GAZA; Soon she will tell you that killing children in Ferguson is GOOD for AmeriKKKa.

NEO-LIBERALISM is the RIGHT of DICK-CHENEY, who would have ever thought?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:05 | 5221201 falconflight
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How many SandBag babies did you sponser in the Gaza Death A Thon?

Mon, 09/15/2014 - 23:56 | 5221337 Richard Feynman
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You & Tony Wilson are the Same BOT? RIGHT; You two both write the same; but polar opposite in THEME; yet seem to balance each other out to a BIG ZERO

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:12 | 5221387 luckystars
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LEAVE TONY ALONE!!!!!!!

Tony and I are the only ones who see the big picture.

Its Jewish Satanism that is controlling this shit show.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:22 | 5221415 falconflight
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Don't leave out Adoni muthfcker.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:32 | 5221438 JR
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tony wilson is an incredible talent, Feynman. Careful. You're losing your credibility.

Tue, 09/16/2014 - 00:58 | 5221472 falconflight
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Tony Wilson has an incredible talent to muster the whereforeall to pen his bilge and tripe into a discernable bucket of swill.  

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