as an american, i shouldn't care too much about the internal politics of a nation i've never visited; but, i must confess, this scottish/UK thingy is of outsized importance for yours truly. owing not only to my ongoing status as a shamelessly unrepentant anglophile, my interest in all things british is also associated with the blood in my veins and my very breeding as an 'anglo-american'. if it weren't for a daub of dutch and french, my ancestry could be fairly described as 1/2 english & 1/2 scottish (but i wanna do that 23 & me test to see what's most prominent in my own proprietary genetic recipe).
based on various things i've read and whatnot, the british isles' population is comprised of five basic constituent groups: 1) the celts (the original inhabitants, now scattered about in ireland, wales and a smattering here and there). 2) the saxons (a germanic tribe traditionally associated with the areas south of london). 3) the anglos (another germanic tribe abiding in the areas north of london up to hadrian's wall). 4) the jutes (yet another germanic tribe attempting to hide their continental roots, who've made the scottish highlands home). &, finally, 5) a host of french derivations (whether they be norman or the masses of huguenots expelled by louis XIV). now, i know that this is a simplistic rendering (and undoubtedly flawed) of the UK's ethnic composition (and, Dork of the Cork, if you're reading, please do correct my errors and omissions), but it will do fine for my present purposes.
after the initial conquest of the nordic tribes, there was a concerted effort to either extinguish the celts or contain those ginger-headed freaks within areas that limited the harm they would otherwise inflict upon themselves and/or the new germanic 'settlers'. this is why we have wales and ireland. the romans then set about to subdue and slice their way throughout the lands of the anglos and saxons (but built a wall in reverence to the intractable and warlike nature of those fierce inhabitants to the north, the scots (nee jutes)). the normans, after william the bastard sacked king harold at hastings, then set about genociding everything and everyone not suitable to norman tastes -- 'civilizing' barbarians is a messy endeavor.
and so, 'british' is a polyglot of many different things; and whatever they are not not withstanding, the british most certainly are conquerors -- it's an enterprise that's sorta saturated in their blood (terribly tasteless pun, i know). and in the history of british imperialism (both at home and abroad) there is only ONE people -- or nation -- whom the brits have treated as peers and co-equals...to wit, the jutes (nee scots).
given the favorable flow of historical considerations and the mostly symbiotic nature of their traditional relationship, if i were a scot balancing the equation of this referendum -- and my formula were weighted to bias historic factors -- i would vote no on the 18th. but, if i were to instead emphasize the present and future tenses of this vote's calculus, i wouldn't be so hasty in casting my nay down london-ways.
and to extend my hypothetical thinking and train my focus on the specifics that constitute my vicarious concerns, they would have little to do with any peculiarities involving scottishness and/or independence; rather, my inclination to vote yes would be sourced in the same font fueling the frustrations everywhere from cornwall, to surrey to norfolk...the very same defects in parliamentary democracy which have propelled UKIP into meteoric ascendency.
for not only are the brit's representatives (everything from council seats up to #10 downing street) unresponsive to their constituent's concerns, their priorities are positively antithetical to those who vote them into office. in other words, this referendum is (to my hypothetical mind) is NOT a function of emergent scottish nationalism, it is instead a verdict on the deficiencies of modern western democracy -- specifically how it dilutes individual responsibility & culpability among those officially elected and, moreover, in democracy's matchless efficacy in blunting popular will and redirecting it against the mindless mewing sheep...i mean 'voters'...it purportedly serves.
and so, imagining myself the fence-sitting scottish citizen, i reckon i'd take a look at parliament, i'd carefully consider the tragic trajectory these neer-do-wells continually nudge their nation along, i'd ask myself if there's any hope for a positive redirectioning...i'd make a figurative scale: on one side i'd put parliment and the present tense, on the other UKIP and the future; and then i'd factor in the history.
at this point, i'd probably fence-sit till right up to ballot-casting time... in the meantime i'd fume and fuss...i'd rant and rave (a time honored scottish tradition)...and, most likely, i'd vote "no" for now, tucking my faith in the burgeoning UKIP & its rockstar Farage, and above all vowing to my hypothetical scottish-janus self that if i didn't see substantial and substantive change in the very near, another referendum in 2015 would satisfy my fury...that, or a new-fangled William Wallace (rumor has it, one of janus's ancestors).
i'd add a song, but i can't compete with Son of Nemo.
if Scotland wins first step, revoke the bitch's tax exempt status on on all scott property, then with her property tax revenue eminent domain her own property surrounding her castles for low income colonial UK Scott immigrant housing legacy.
Surround the bitch with her own 3rd world parasite voter constituency.
The red headed bastard Royal with Muslim killing credentials can move to America
The Queen is a cool quip lizard and all, even that blood atonement stuff is kinda intresting but this has nothing, or perhaps everything, to do with the Monarchy.
Scotland is trying to do this in a Civil fashion people, a sharade or not, please realize that most cases of independance in the 2000s are in forms of wars and revolutions.
Shamefull how English Politicians are seducing people to think Scotland would fall back into the dark ages. Are they going to bomb Glasgow like the Bommed Lebannon in 2006?
The graphics get covered by RanSquawk on a lot of systems even with AdBlock. Right Click on the graphic and select "View Image" and then you can see the whole thing.
mcluhan called it autonomy, rather than independence. (you can have a separate government without autonomy, you can have autonomy within a larger corporate structure, the word corporate has been manipulated to mean only business and marketing structures as they exists. we need to reclaim the word for our own purposes and define it) the downside of the NWO is this interdependence (and it sounds like such a nice word). when all markets depend on each other, hot money flows to china, and is recycled in UST bonds which monetize deficit spending. interdependent and non-autonomous structures. apparently more Americans are renoucing citizenship than ever before, due mostly to tax laws. would an independent Scotland become an American expats destination? a place where the Snowdens can escape the NWO, where Obamas drones cannot reach you?
Sadly, I don't think they can overcome the power of modern propaganda. I wish they would, but I don't think they can. Every "authority" in the bloody world is pulling out all the stops on the fear mongering. Since when can't the Scots stand on their own two feet? eh? since when, man ? If only they weren't so corrupted by the modern opinion makers.
Holy macaroni, WM7. I actually like the queen, but that picture is 'joking' with me!
Of course they want to keep the UK together. Just like Putin wants to put the USSR back together and DC doesn't want the left coast or the middle-and-southern red states to secede - But they should. Where people exist who do not share a common bond, they should be permitted to establish their own destiny. They can come back to the fold later if the trial period proves it's really not working out for one or the other - right?
there's never a 'competition' (per se) for the perfect song to accompany any given WB post, but, Son of Nemo, you just won.
"what's my prize?"...glad you asked, Son of Nemo. sex pistols always puts janus in the mood for some ramones. and so, my brother, and without further ado:
at least the serfs have a queen mother or father,
in the usa all you get is a con man salesman with
puddin' head.
.
NRBQ - "Puddin' Truck" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOymMrI4wgQ
as an american, i shouldn't care too much about the internal politics of a nation i've never visited; but, i must confess, this scottish/UK thingy is of outsized importance for yours truly. owing not only to my ongoing status as a shamelessly unrepentant anglophile, my interest in all things british is also associated with the blood in my veins and my very breeding as an 'anglo-american'. if it weren't for a daub of dutch and french, my ancestry could be fairly described as 1/2 english & 1/2 scottish (but i wanna do that 23 & me test to see what's most prominent in my own proprietary genetic recipe).
based on various things i've read and whatnot, the british isles' population is comprised of five basic constituent groups: 1) the celts (the original inhabitants, now scattered about in ireland, wales and a smattering here and there). 2) the saxons (a germanic tribe traditionally associated with the areas south of london). 3) the anglos (another germanic tribe abiding in the areas north of london up to hadrian's wall). 4) the jutes (yet another germanic tribe attempting to hide their continental roots, who've made the scottish highlands home). &, finally, 5) a host of french derivations (whether they be norman or the masses of huguenots expelled by louis XIV). now, i know that this is a simplistic rendering (and undoubtedly flawed) of the UK's ethnic composition (and, Dork of the Cork, if you're reading, please do correct my errors and omissions), but it will do fine for my present purposes.
after the initial conquest of the nordic tribes, there was a concerted effort to either extinguish the celts or contain those ginger-headed freaks within areas that limited the harm they would otherwise inflict upon themselves and/or the new germanic 'settlers'. this is why we have wales and ireland. the romans then set about to subdue and slice their way throughout the lands of the anglos and saxons (but built a wall in reverence to the intractable and warlike nature of those fierce inhabitants to the north, the scots (nee jutes)). the normans, after william the bastard sacked king harold at hastings, then set about genociding everything and everyone not suitable to norman tastes -- 'civilizing' barbarians is a messy endeavor.
and so, 'british' is a polyglot of many different things; and whatever they are not not withstanding, the british most certainly are conquerors -- it's an enterprise that's sorta saturated in their blood (terribly tasteless pun, i know). and in the history of british imperialism (both at home and abroad) there is only ONE people -- or nation -- whom the brits have treated as peers and co-equals...to wit, the jutes (nee scots).
given the favorable flow of historical considerations and the mostly symbiotic nature of their traditional relationship, if i were a scot balancing the equation of this referendum -- and my formula were weighted to bias historic factors -- i would vote no on the 18th. but, if i were to instead emphasize the present and future tenses of this vote's calculus, i wouldn't be so hasty in casting my nay down london-ways.
and to extend my hypothetical thinking and train my focus on the specifics that constitute my vicarious concerns, they would have little to do with any peculiarities involving scottishness and/or independence; rather, my inclination to vote yes would be sourced in the same font fueling the frustrations everywhere from cornwall, to surrey to norfolk...the very same defects in parliamentary democracy which have propelled UKIP into meteoric ascendency.
for not only are the brit's representatives (everything from council seats up to #10 downing street) unresponsive to their constituent's concerns, their priorities are positively antithetical to those who vote them into office. in other words, this referendum is (to my hypothetical mind) is NOT a function of emergent scottish nationalism, it is instead a verdict on the deficiencies of modern western democracy -- specifically how it dilutes individual responsibility & culpability among those officially elected and, moreover, in democracy's matchless efficacy in blunting popular will and redirecting it against the mindless mewing sheep...i mean 'voters'...it purportedly serves.
and so, imagining myself the fence-sitting scottish citizen, i reckon i'd take a look at parliament, i'd carefully consider the tragic trajectory these neer-do-wells continually nudge their nation along, i'd ask myself if there's any hope for a positive redirectioning...i'd make a figurative scale: on one side i'd put parliment and the present tense, on the other UKIP and the future; and then i'd factor in the history.
at this point, i'd probably fence-sit till right up to ballot-casting time... in the meantime i'd fume and fuss...i'd rant and rave (a time honored scottish tradition)...and, most likely, i'd vote "no" for now, tucking my faith in the burgeoning UKIP & its rockstar Farage, and above all vowing to my hypothetical scottish-janus self that if i didn't see substantial and substantive change in the very near, another referendum in 2015 would satisfy my fury...that, or a new-fangled William Wallace (rumor has it, one of janus's ancestors).
i'd add a song, but i can't compete with Son of Nemo.
invictus,
janus
Loudon Wainwright III - Man and Dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPAYTerpBTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDKKhIDT4ow
Damn it, Janet!
That Queen comes from a long line of degenerates. You made a good rendering of her true self.
Just imagine what Her Royal Hagness looks like without her makeup.
All minions of the Black Pope.
http://vaticanassassins.org/2009/12/16/queen-elizabeth-ii-knights-shimon...
William
Please tell us you will do a special "Daily Mail" cover with this headline strategically placed under it!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756788/Obama-urges-Scotland-not...
That shitbag working for his masters.
And remember that Obama previously told the British not to leave the E.U.:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/09/us-warns-uk-european-union
If your empire and currency once ruled half the world and today you were nothing but a quaint tourist destination, you'd look like that too.
So Yesterday!
DRAW AND QUARTER TRUMPS BEHEADING
i'll take flay any day.
You think the Scott's are pissed off that Mel Gibson's head was chopped off by England? Kind of ISIS like.
I thought Hollywood chopped it off in an ISIS like way.
I for one would choose Edinburgh over London anytime.
the Queen has no worries and her family is prepared to submit to Islam, they even claim lineage from Mohammad-like Al Bagdadi http://www.juancole.com/2008/02/burkes-peerage-queen-elizabeth-ii.html
if Scotland wins first step, revoke the bitch's tax exempt status on on all scott property, then with her property tax revenue eminent domain her own property surrounding her castles for low income colonial UK Scott immigrant housing legacy.
Surround the bitch with her own 3rd world parasite voter constituency.
The red headed bastard Royal with Muslim killing credentials can move to America
The Queen is a cool quip lizard and all, even that blood atonement stuff is kinda intresting but this has nothing, or perhaps everything, to do with the Monarchy.
Scotland is trying to do this in a Civil fashion people, a sharade or not, please realize that most cases of independance in the 2000s are in forms of wars and revolutions.
Shamefull how English Politicians are seducing people to think Scotland would fall back into the dark ages. Are they going to bomb Glasgow like the Bommed Lebannon in 2006?
If you ever went out on the town in Greenock on a Saturday night, you would
realise some parts of Scotland never left the dark ages.
Next the Highlanders will want their own country and a divorce from the Lowlanders.
The Faro islanders are not really Scottish either.
Back at you "ya Olde Bat"!
God Bless the Scots and this referendum for change!!!
I find it irritating that the art work is 1/3 or so obliterated by RanSquawk and other stuff.
@hopefulbutwary
Right Click... View Image.
problem solved
No, AdBlock won't work, as those are not ads.
This used to irritate me as well until we upgraded our PCs and my video H/W was able to then support a .......
[[[DRUMROLL]]] {{{CYMBAL CRASH}}}
>>>>> WIDESCREEN MONITOR <<<<<
(They're all the rage in the 21st Century, doncha know?)
I find it irritating that the art work is 1/3 or so obliterated by RanSquawk and other stuff.
The graphics get covered by RanSquawk on a lot of systems even with AdBlock. Right Click on the graphic and select "View Image" and then you can see the whole thing.
AdBlock Plus FTW!
mcluhan called it autonomy, rather than independence. (you can have a separate government without autonomy, you can have autonomy within a larger corporate structure, the word corporate has been manipulated to mean only business and marketing structures as they exists. we need to reclaim the word for our own purposes and define it) the downside of the NWO is this interdependence (and it sounds like such a nice word). when all markets depend on each other, hot money flows to china, and is recycled in UST bonds which monetize deficit spending. interdependent and non-autonomous structures. apparently more Americans are renoucing citizenship than ever before, due mostly to tax laws. would an independent Scotland become an American expats destination? a place where the Snowdens can escape the NWO, where Obamas drones cannot reach you?
would an independent Scotland become an American expats destination?
You're goddamn right it would.
There's a whole lot of people watching this very closely.
Eh, right up until their first dreary, icy cold winter. Then it's off to Costa Rica.
Ah, William, you're a good lad, you are; and I'd be chuffed to shout you a Pint if ever we meet in a Scottish Pub.
Can I have a Lagavulin with that?
Insane Crown Posse
Not exactly applicable but funy. Spitting Image QE2
http://youtu.be/yWz1zfrsY50
It's good to be queen. obumbles says, "it's good to be POTUS," too. Funny!
Sadly, I don't think they can overcome the power of modern propaganda. I wish they would, but I don't think they can. Every "authority" in the bloody world is pulling out all the stops on the fear mongering. Since when can't the Scots stand on their own two feet? eh? since when, man ? If only they weren't so corrupted by the modern opinion makers.
Think positive thoughts. The solution will come.
Holy macaroni, WM7. I actually like the queen, but that picture is 'joking' with me!
Of course they want to keep the UK together. Just like Putin wants to put the USSR back together and DC doesn't want the left coast or the middle-and-southern red states to secede - But they should. Where people exist who do not share a common bond, they should be permitted to establish their own destiny. They can come back to the fold later if the trial period proves it's really not working out for one or the other - right?
Secession is letting DC off too light.
The place should be razed, sown with salt, and the more comely inhabitants sold into bondage.
King Abraham had something to say about secession in 1861, and killed or maimed 1.2 million men over 4 years to make his point.
James VI, King of Scots was anointed king of England. A Scottish King was king of Enlgand.
We command every Scot to do his duty for his Queen.
Aye; Mary Queen of Scots, you're meanin; for certain, eh, man ?
She ain't no human bein...
And there's no future and England's dreamin...
No future... No future... No future for you...
God Save the Sex Pistols!
Mark Knopfler - Brothers In Arms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23KHLW2dw_o
there's never a 'competition' (per se) for the perfect song to accompany any given WB post, but, Son of Nemo, you just won.
"what's my prize?"...glad you asked, Son of Nemo. sex pistols always puts janus in the mood for some ramones. and so, my brother, and without further ado:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eajk2uDWaP0
i can't control my fingers/
i can't control my brain,
janus
at least the serfs have a queen mother or father,
in the usa all you get is a con man salesman with
puddin' head.
.
NRBQ - "Puddin' Truck"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOymMrI4wgQ
The Kinks - Victoria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdGqJpTvp2c
Blow it out your ass Scotish man, I'm the queen don't you understand.