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Over 1000 US, NATO Troops Begin Military Exercises In Ukraine
Russia could care less whether Ukraine signs meaningless accession agreements with Europe (as it just did) because at the end of the day, Ukraine needs Russia's gas (if only for the next 4-6 years until Hunter Biden develops Ukraine's shale deposits and the Qatar gas pipeline finally crosses Syria). Russia, however, is very angry when NATO gets ever closer to its borders, which it just did when earlier today, more than 1,000 troops from 15 NATO and non-NATO countries, including the US of course, are taking part in a military exercise in Ukraine.
The good news: The “Rapid Trident” exercise is happening near Lviv on the Polish-Ukrainian border, around 1,000 miles from the conflict in east Ukraine.
The bad news: 1,000 miles will hardly be considered enough by the Kremlin which will see this latest incursion by NATO ever closer to its border as another direct threat and a hint of what will happen if Ukraine is allowed to progress on its path of demanding entry into the military alliance.
From EuroNews:
Ukrainian army colonel, Oleksandr Syvak, said: “This year’s military exercise will concentrate on the particular aspects of the undeclared or “hybrid” war, which is happening in the east of Ukraine. This will be be taken into consideration during the military drill. The Ukrainian militaries will also share their experiences gained during the anti-terrorist operation”
Moscow has previously condemned what it calls NATO’s expansion in eastern Europe close to Russia’s borders.
In August, Ukraine’s prime minister said he would ask parliament to put the country on a path towards NATO membership.
At the weekend, the Ukrainian Defence Minister admitted NATO countries had begun arming his nation in the fight against the rebels – something NATO members had previously denied.
Euronews correspondent Mykhaylo Dubyak in Ukraine says: “In the Rapid Trident exercises, NATO and Ukrainian troops will train in how to react to an ambush and convoy operations, amongst other things. It will raise the combat capability of the Ukrainian army and may be used in operations in Donbas.”
Well, at least nobody is even hiding any more that NATO is both implicitly and explicitly involved in the Ukraine war, which has now surpassed simple proxy status and is in effect one between Russia and the West, quite directly.
And now we await as the Kremlin reveals yet another, massive "surprise" military drill just off the Ukraine border to make it quite clear how all this will end unless the warmongering puppetmasters operating behind the scenes are put in their place.
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Leave Russia alone you warmongering fucks
In Ukraine
Oh geez!
Shit kabob for every one of'em! ;-)
Looney
If only it was just "them".....world war means you and me too.
The US/EU/NATO syndicate is dragging the world into a shitgum swamp.
Many have been disappointed by Clinton when he's said "not one inch":
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-17/bill-clinton%E2%80%99s-epic-double-cross-how-not-inch-brought-nato-russia%E2%80%99s-border
OK Clintons fault.....infinity!
Did you know a thousand points of light refers to a castle in Europe? Well....it does.
Putin isn't very smart, he hasn't cut off their gas yet. Fool.
You know all those US servicemen are thinking, these bitches are way hotter than those fat feminist chicks in the USA, glad I was selected for this invasion hahaha.
Just making official what was happening from day one of the coup, NATO troops have been on the ground in Ukraine for a loooong time.
The IMF empire grows larger.
I guess they decided since the Orange Revolution didnt stick because the people democratically threw out the IMF stooges from last time, that now what is needed are NATO troops on the ground to make sure this color revolution stays put.
fightthepower, patience. One chess piece at a time
I don't know how many troops China really has but if I were a Shark Tank kinda entrepreneur I'd pitch one big ass Chinese buffet on the border.
Or at least nab the chop stix contract, man.
Cinton will say that he was not lying, because Ukraine is metric, and he did not say "Not one cm".
Criminal NATO = North American Terrorist Organiztion which = The Pure Evil Psycotic NWO.
You got junked for that? Clearly at least two from the Troll Patrol are up this A.M.
The same Douche Bag Trolls who always trash me.
The troops are errand boys sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill . . .
(from Apocalypse Now)
The banksters are nothing but glorified grocery clerks who put a price tag on everything including your lives and your freedom.
Far easier to bring other countries on board when the False Flag kills a coalition of troops
And all bitches die in the end.
Troop members are just plain retards, like lobster IQ.
Most of those guys are disposable NATO cannon fodder. They have been lied to like the rest of us. The dance routine before sending them to death is obscene. There is nothing artistic about war.
What ever convinced them to sign up with the NATO gang? They may have been desperate for money or were living in crushing poverty, so it seemed like a chance out. However, if and when it comes to direct military confrontation with the Russians, they have two choices:
Surrender, get taken prisoner, get processed, fed, and eventually released
Fight the Russians head on and die
By the way, where is that psycho Nuland? Is she still drawing a taxpayer funded paycheck for starting all of this?
She's fapping to troops deployment.
I think she's baking the cookies.
In the Devil's kitchen, doing devils work.
Ukraine armed by NATO and with twice the troops of the NAF will not win because half of them don't even believe in the government pricks in control as are the conscripts that don't even want to be there, while the NAF they are fighting against has a true cause, with decicated volunteers from more than just Novorossia and Russian armed forces, fighting for something they truly believe in.
you could as well ask for Hunter Biden to return to the US instead of surveying Ukraine for fracking companies
The American eagle keeps pecking away at the Russian bear and Chinese dragon.
Would not want to be a birdy in that company.
All these conflicts going on in the world all seem to be about oil & gas. Even the Ebola outbreak in Africa is. http://www.rense.com/general96/eboseng.html
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Somehow the peckerheads in Vichy DC think it's a good idea.
Pray for a sinkhole to swallow the city whole.
it is a good idea. at least from the perspective of the US MIC lobbyists that ensure the Mighty Eagle spends as much as the whole frigging rest of the world for defense
there can't be a sinkhole below that city. or, better, if it would open, it would be instantly filled up by the vast rivers of money that flow there
The only sinkholes that signify are the ones where all QE money seems to be disappearing without reaching our pockets, and obama's mamma's
Paul Craig Roberts take on this:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/14/washingtons-war-russia-paul-c...
more provocation until the bear snaps back out of its corner
well, the Bear did snap up Crimea, didn't it? and has it's paws quite firmly in Eastern Ukraine, even if officially it's all volunteers going cossack
recently (and reported on the FT) an european director of Facebook tried to explain to a gaggle of American CEOs (around the recent Google anti-trust spars of the EU) what really irks europeans most about our American Cousins: this constant search for the fight between good and evil
for him, Google's "don't do evil" motto is the epithome of this way of thinking. "I'm not the bad guy, ergo I'm the good guy"
the world is in shades of gray. if you want to watch the fight between White Hats and Black Hats, go to the movies. (yes, this is Moral Relativism)
Ghordius , people up vote you ever so often for appearing to be an authentic good guy. Yet you are the EU-devils advocate.
Hence your moral relativism.
Maybe only bad guys can see through the evil of their peers.
In that role you are playing rather well, you try to be the good guy intentions wise...road to hell.
US imperialism = bad , EUSSR imperialism = good ?
You are the one owing your audience a good stand against
totalitarian structures, lest you`d be charged as guilty
for confusing good vs. bad.
I could not care less about the upvotes, or downvotes. I care for facts, and I'm a fan of ZH because I sometimes find nuggets of this precious stuff, here
what is a totalitarian structure exactly? where is a citizen more free, in China, in Russia, in the EU countries, in the US?
where does your "EUSSR" tag come from? from the USSR. which imploded because people were sick of it
facts, please. the EU is not the NATO and is not the eurozone, for example, otherwise the membership of those clubs would be exactly the same
tell me, who are the good guys? those who follow an absolute morality? they tend to be the most imperialistic of all. the Caliphate Fighters are followers of absolute moral principles, for example
@ Ghordius
"what is a totalitarian structure exactly? where is a citizen more free, in China, in Russia, in the EU countries, in the US? "
Where a citizen feels the most free, chances are good that lesser creatures under the same empire or world wide exploitation scheme are somehow, or up to it greatly deprived of a meaningful existence.
Small business freedom might be lacking in Russia inherently, China leads the way for all our embarrassment.
No excuse for fascist US policies to favor corporations against the common good or Europe to fight even small and medium sized enterprises for no other reasons that socialist s always hated private enterprises and selling out to new globalist overlords is the name of the day. International socialism was contained in self defeating communist ideals.
What the heck Ghordius you are trying to defeat ? Bush calling, with or against us ? :-)
Ghordius said:
But what about the nonstop cavalcade of New Hitlers®?
Somebody has to do something!
"more provocation until the bear snaps back out of its corner"
Well, that's clearly the Plan: Classic Am-Way is to keep badgering, pecking, strangling & sanctioning until the Enemy has practcically NO choice but to attack on a massive scale. The Friend --> Frenemy --> Enemy is provoked into the classic Sucker Punch that justifies an "A Day that will live in infamy" speech and mob-ilizes the Ameri-Sheeple into War.
And War is the only thing left to save the USD from getting dethroned from its GRC status.
There's a warmongering puppetmaster somewhere that needs a crippling kick in the balls.
Not needed, as they have no he-man balls left.
What they need is a mule-kick to the head. For starters. You then do a Khan* on the ones THEY give a damn about.
* Genghis Khan was... "ruthless" and thurough.
Why does Russia consider NATO a threat?
maybe it has to do with NATOS,s expansion of 8 countries since the fall of the Berlin war. Maybe it has to do with stationing a missile shield in these countries, claiming they protect NATO from Iran and North Korea, where these two countries do not have intercontinental ballistic rockets. you smell the plot now?
Maybe its because its the private military force of a handful of wealthy oligarchs. Maybe its because it hasn't been used for anything in its entire history that didn't serve the interests of a select few. Maybe its because the majority of the world views it as a horde of evil orcs.
Yeah, I hear ya, what do 3.5 billion people know, right?
WTF!!!!!!!! These assholes are just foaming at the mouth for a war. Western governments would be screaming bloody murder if Russia were overtly training in Eastern Ukraine. Fucking hipocrites. And no metion of this in the MSM naturally. This should bother people. Don't they realize screwing with Russia is a BAD fucking idea? This isn't the sandbox.
Yeah! They're so busy war-mongering they seem to have forgotten that on Fed meeting days the S&P futures are supposed to be green, while PMs get monkeyhammered ahead of the bell. WTF???!!!
Reportedly all the troops flew in past week on implicit
low flying missions in bad weather. Taking off at dawn, there was human made thunder under German skies as if the bombing raids would resume.
On purpose and an explicit attack exercise.
Yes, that's the Plan, Stan. Except that 'Merican Sheeple are too dumb (sheeple are dumb by definition) to know or realized that.
Ignorance, Fear and the Normalcy Bias (Inertia) are strong in them. Which is why I pity sheeple less and less as time goes by, because I realize that it would be a "Misallocation of Compassion" and a huge waste of time and resources.
Would rather save Compassion for people who matter, i.e. people who choose to make a difference and people who are not on my Trash* list.
* Kirk's Trash List (of Trash People), includes people who are: Cruel, Dumb, Lazy, Crooked, Parasitic and lack Civil Courage. Being Scared or an Isolationist is not a Virtue.. In my books, these are a cover for Selfishness + Cowardice. Bravery + Organized (part of an "Effective group of useful size") are virtues.
Since highly functional Sociopaths, Predators and Parasites have the "Attributes of Success" (Vision, Will, Focus, Plan, Courage, Intelligence, Diligence, and being Informed, Organized and Relentless), there is NO choice but to have these attributes also. Those who do not possess these Attributes of Success, or choose not to acquire and practice them, deserve everything they get. IOW...
A People, a Sheeple truly deserve their leaders.
"At the weekend, the Ukrainian Defence Minister admitted NATO countries had begun arming his nation in the fight against the rebels – something NATO members had previously denied."
which NATO countries, dear minister? if you spill the beans, you ought to do it properly
some of those countries have laws that specifically prohibit the delivery of weapons to war zones (though I note that the German Bundestag recently specifically allowed it for the Iraqi Kurds)
One small statement that says so much! The hypocrisy of the west revealed. NATO Obama and the west complaining that Russia is supplying arms to the Separatist Rebels but yet it is ok for Nato to supply weapons to the Coup Leaders that toppled the Ukrainian Government.
The "fuck the EU" ones who not only swallowed the Nudel offense but would eagerly take it up anywhere ?
Some of those countries? Spill the beans !
Turkey is not as backward as most assume, very good weapons
there made under license. No export control.
Ever been to an international gun trade fair ?
This rips the Barn Door WIDE OPEN for both sides to support their Proxy Armies in Ukraine's civil war: A Piecemeal War of WW3.
If Russia does not provide full support now, East Ukraine AND Russia are screwed.
p.s. The US is run by Lobbyists (lawyers) and AIZPAC. They former behave predictably as all trial lawyers do: If you can't win on Principle, you win on Procedure. The latter are organized, focused, principled but ruthless, and... relentless like the Borg. Russia + China need to get "serious" and more proactive than reactive.
At this point, I'd drop the 1st shoe: All energy sales to Ukraine, or bills paid on behalf of Ukraine, will be calculated* in Gold but paid in a Combination of Rubles + Yuan + Gold. This is key, to prevent TPTB from playing FX Currency Games/Wars as a means of working around the new Requirements to pay in Real Money, i.e. to De-Dollarize. The 2nd shoe drops in Nov., when the EU also is billed the same way. The Ziocons will freak out.
Dethrone or cripple the Petro-Dollar --> cripple NATO/ZATO. QED.
Create EPEC (Energy Producing and Exporting Countries) to parallel OPEC. EPEC prices Energy (Gas, Oil, Electricity) in Gold, but settles in Rubles, Yuan or Gold.
* Indexing/Corellating Energy to Gold is 100% rational, objective, impossible to conjure out of thin air, and almost impossible to manipulate. It is the Ultimate ABSOLUTE CURRENCY: PRECIOUS ENERGY indexed to PRECIOUS MATERIALS/METALS. And all paper/fiat/elastic currencies are then indexed to these absolutes.
Fuck you, Fed, ECB, WB and BIS, and fuck you Zio-Ploticians!
The Nobel Prize Winner spreading sweetness and light:
The decision to hold these exercises is a further provocation by the Western powers aimed at Russia. The United States and Germany supported a right-wing coup that ousted then Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych after he refused to sign an association agreement with the EU in February.
The US and Germany then backed a military campaign against an anti-Kiev and pro-Russian separatist movement that emerged in the east, and have levied a series of economic sanctions against Russia for allegedly providing military support to the separatists.
In addition to Ukraine, a number of the nations participating in the exercise share a border with Russian territory, including Azerbaijan, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, and Poland. Armed forces from Germany, Great Britain, Canada, and Spain are also participating.
Ukrainian Defense Minister Valerey Heletey also announced that NATO countries had begun delivering weapons for use against the pro-Russian separatists. NATO officials have claimed that they are not sending arms to Ukraine, though individual member states have the right to do so.
Heletey told reporters that he had worked out the arms deals with NATO defense ministers at the summit in Wales earlier this month. The details remain a secret.
Poroshenko is scheduled to meet with US President Barack Obama at the White House on Thursday. According to a White House press release, Obama will reiterate US support for Ukraine “as it pursues democracy, independence, and stability.” It is expected that the Ukrainian leader will seek a closer military alliance with the United States outside of the NATO alliance and closer economic ties.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/09/16/ukra-s16.html
by the people for the people...
the soldiers should realise what they're doing...
if anything happens, they are to blame.
"just following orders" while causing a war is the highest form a treason anybody can do.
We'll see if there will be a shitstorm or cold war...
The U.S. is gonna be needin a lot more "red berets" than that...
Wouldn't want to be those 1,000 x 5 (forgot the mercenaries already there) if the shit starts going "south" in Syria!
The headline we need to see: "Russia will hold Joint Military Exercises in Syria, to counter the dangers of ISIS. 1,000 Russian troops, IC3* and equipment will be sent to Syria. These troops will consist of Ground-to-Ground and Ground-to-Air capabilities that protect Syria's sovereignty, until such time that Syria can do so on its own."
* IC3 = Intelligence, Command, Control, Communication
p.s. Fuck you Puppet-In-Chief Obola, fuck you Ziocon NuttyNyahoo, fuck you Wahhabist-scum Saudis!
pps. This would be a great way for the Russian military to hold live and real exercises to test their Mil HW and Systems -- before the real shit starts in Ukraine, which it will. It also hamstrings Obola and delays the Qatari pipeline longer. But keep offering Qatar to run the pipeline to Iran instead.
About time. Next, ramp up the presence. From the baltics sea all the way down to the black.
When are you and yours shipping out?
8 weeks 31 min.....approximately.
I'm in reserves. They can call me in and send me whenever. It is not like there will be any fighting anyway. Just a like any regular brown bear, Russia will retreat to the forest once enough people show up. He is just interested in some easy pickings whilst he can.
peggleball What a shock you are in for. But good luck anyway.
peggleball, so you're a UK Reserves, by the sounds of it. If so, you're English, not Scottish, as no self-respecting Scotsman would get caught in that BS these days.
regular brown bear?
As opposed to the highly dangerous decaf brown bear.
It just feels surreal going to work, doing my meaningless money shuffling office job while all of this unfolds. Our little lives won't matter much soon.
The more weapons supplied to Ukraine...the more weapons and men supplied to 'rebels'......loser Ukraine people...thanks Ukraine (US proxy) government.
Also gives Russia an excuse to provide support to rebels against risk of illegal NATO incursion.
The more weapons supplied to Ukraine...the more weapons and men supplied to 'rebels'......loser Ukraine people...thanks Ukraine (US proxy) government.
Yes indeed K
And when all those American Army personnel get ambushed during their "ambush training exercises" and come back horizontal through Delaware the American people will be told about their great sarcifice during halftime on a Sunday afternoon game...
Will the Americans be smart enough to ask why the fuck we're in Ukraine when we're orchestrating airstrikes in Iraq and Syria?...
Pass the nachos and another Bud please!
The military is also fighting viruses now:
"Obama is expected at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in DeKalb County on Tuesday.. Administration officials revealed overnight that the president plans to send 3,000 U.S. military personnel to help fight Ebola in west Africa."
What could go wrong?
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/obama-visit-cdc-announce-military-d...
Peak retardation. How'd you like to pull that duty?
Get used to it, ground-pounders. This is what YOU VOLUNTEERED for, you fucking volunteers.
My mother texted me that headline this am and added "will they shoot the virus or the people infected by it?"
West Africa isn't there a lot of oil off shore and gold deposits and other resource deposits there?
A German geological survey found potentially very large deposits of lithium, copper and rare earths there a couple of years back, also, if I recall correctly.
Cool. ..Kinda like dawn of the dead . .. cep for realz.
Yes, plenty of oil/gas. Turf war of sorts, for oil/gas going to China or USSA.
The US is cutting off China from Resources in Africa. A pandemic is perfect for that. There are now 4 Wars being fought against Russia + China, over Oil+Gas: Africa, ME, Central Asia (Afghanistan/Pakistan), Ukraine.
Piecemeal-WW3 --> Fullmeal-WW3. / Will that be Supersized for you? And with Coke, you say? Terrific! /sarc
The military is also fighting viruses now:
Well WD
If Obama (Secret Chimp) can use ISIS as cover for removing one of the last secular governments in the Middle East to build a pipeline, why not use a virus that has several vials missing at Fort Detrick to start a pandemic as cover to remove China from building new businesses in West Africa?...
Same as it ever was!
Prelude for when PIECEMEAL-WW3 escallates to FULLMEAL-WW3.
Call it a Full-Dress Rehearsal. IF you want to win, you have to think as devious as your Enemy, or more so. Sheesh!
The zioqueers really must need WWW3 to hold off the inevitable lynching of their ilk.
zioqueers - That's a good code word. Someone suggested "TFJ" yesterday, another personal favorite of mine
TFJ's was mine as well. Great minds think alike!
Ah that was you! I'm giving credit where credit is due. Credit - so hard to come by these days..
putin doesn't have to do a thing...... just turn off the gas and sit back.....
.... and plunder even more Russia retirement money for arms expenditure
Meanwhile in the west, the oligarchs have orchestrated the theft of my great great grandchild's retirement. Are you THAT clueless or is there a process to your thought on this matter?
Typical zerohedger. Lets say I buy into your hysterical world view with oligarchs etc, will two wrong make a right? Of course not. You just overly condemning of anything western and overly forgiving of anything Russian.
Typical zerohedger
Don't think you can pigeon hole us like that.....we're pretty diverse actually. I mean hell.....you're here. Do your parents know where you are?
"typical" leaves enough room for the few exceptions.
peggleball, let me guess , your typical parents were
syblings?
No need to buy in. Just kindly beat it.
Russia cannot afford to do that but they may supply just enough for a steep price.
I smell something fishy..
It's ok. Move on
Cue: Russian troops in Syria.
Two can play this game.Lavrov a;ready hinted at it yesterday.
FARAGE giving the EU FATCAT IDIOTS another 3 minute lesson in common sense :
EU are to blame for Ukrainehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUEa-tiiQs
dear Nigel is blaming the EU as much as NATO. I'd respect his (actually quite valid in parts) message more if he would not constantly insert propagandistic and populist half-truths designed to make his position better looking for his English audience
don't mistake me, I'm against this association agreement between Ukraine and the EU, as much as I was against the enlargement of the EU after the Berlin Wall came down
but I would really, really like Nigel Farage to at least ONCE note that his own UK and it's BFF the US are those who pushed and still push hardest for the constant enlargement up to the Bear's lair
but no, he prefers to shift the message so that his audience likes it best, and full truth be damned. the very definition of populist
nope, this time Nigel earned the booing he gets after he weasels out of the question
But it's important that the Ukraine join NATO due to its direct ties to the North Atlantic Ocean (via the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Ocean).
"up to the Bear's lair".
No trying to get you, if there were a point.
Good wording, wheeled to a narrative, you ain`t cutting though.
Propaganda wise, English and basic command of what resemblance of logic there is left on your audience ,
you `re on a roll.
Me your friend sort of, intellectualizing gets the curious inquiring mind on the hook. Shot, hanged or whatever suits the status quo. Capital you came for us ?
Media saturated with all sorts of war stories for a while now. Also notice a lot of war movies appearing on tv of late.....would think somebody trying to stir the public into a war mood.
russia has been very quite on the syriana front iran as well.
none of the tough talk and actions like last year.
like the malay plane shoot down over ukrania 20 mins after israel started depleted uranium bombing gaza multiple theatre operations.
rapid trident keeping putin busy while assad gets hit
What Syria Can Do When The US Bombs ISIS In Syria - Morrishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnJ7Vx_JPGQ&list=UUweyNwo4cZM5gsIpuG4Zlew
"Russia has been very quite on the syriana front iran as well.
none of the tough talk and actions like last year."...
Well t
Who would have ever thought Saudi Arabia's favorite gorilla would be threatening Putin that if he didn't capitulate with Syria, some bombs might have to go off before and during his winter games in Sochi...
Oh and that liitle "coup" thing that started with the next door neighbor right about the time the opening ceremonies were finishing up!
On that last video you posted by the way which is excellent. Beware of the quiet Russian that doesn't make announcements anymore...
Germany, U.K. and Turkey are broadcasting for a very good reason why they don't want involvement with the Israeli U.S. air campaign should it get underway!
Based on current events, such as the drills in Ukraine and the imminent air striking in Syria, i wouldnt be surprised if the Russians reaction to the sanctions will be a big step in escalation. For now, its been tit for tat, but we shouldnt underestimate that Russia might turn the aggressor (from a financial war perspective)
LF
It officially passed the threshold of war when the the school in Beslan 10 years ago was attacked and more than 300 lives were taken and the train station in Volgograd last December was bombed.
Russia knew what was coming it's way after 9/11 and the bank bailouts in the U.S. in 2008!
When Bandar put those threats against Russia I thought
Saudi "emphire" next.
The rulers had other plans and geopolitical ass Russia has always almost other plans, and whenever Kissinger flies in at old age for old princes of his chroming of next featured future rulers...
My guess all of IS is to is to throw former allied Sauds under
the bus. Sorry towelheads, we never loved you. We are here to defend human rights. Why the heck are you folks dwelling on our righteous oil reservoirs ? Don`t you feel ashamed ?
Let`s assume it is ours and we are civilized.
All the common traitors no longer stepping up.
They can`t. They would wan`t too, but fail the test.
Sorry for good old fashioned treason. No more allies.
And no more mates and whatever for all that mates.
Favourite hobby of US Oligarchs.....having US soldiers killed.
Russian military machine isn't so tiny as to not be able to deal with Ukraine and Syria at the same time....both small beer.
Yeah, they've got all these WWI doco's running here in Australia. It's all about creating the right conditions.
Here (UK), too. A more than normal number of 'desert warfare' movies, also.
I just can't believe Ukrainians, a Slavic country, is promoting this against a sister country, Russia, both under the same foot print, a guess as they say, the worse enemies some times are at home...
How naive they are, if they think these 'foreign hands', that came for the rescue are their friends in any way.
Ukrainians are no longer in charge of Ukraine. Zionist arch-criminals have, for the time being, taken control. The hubris of these dual-citizen oligarchs will be short lived. As you allude to, slavs will unite against them.
The exercise subject of this article illustrates that the zio-cons know that they have a finite timeframe with which to act. They have to get non-slavs, non-locals, non-citizens involved before they lose everything.
In the meantime, the parallel fraud (Syria) seems to be going according to their scheme. Why can't these zionists beasts do anything without it being a scheme? Is there no legitimacy to any endeavour that they engage in? None?
"Ukrainians" were never in control.
There is hardly such thing as an ethnic Ukrianian, only is citizenship.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.
Does not even have a real name...always been called Ukraine (borderlands)
"Ukraine A History" Orest Subtelny Best book in this subject for English language readers
The Author"s family heritage is from this land "Ukraine"
Were you as surprised when the daughter of fritzl? What is a little rape and being locked up for a decade or two. Family is more important than that right?
NATO forces in peaceful training with a sovereign nation, zerohedgers act as indignant as a survivor of the rape of nanjing.
Read your own comment.Its ludicrous on its face.
Peaceful traing for war.How Orwellian.
Because Russia never has any excercises, many orders magnitude larger than this one, multiple times during this year? LOL
At least NATO has the decency of not holding the exercise 2 meters from the border.
The Russians live there. Its their border. These Nato mercinaries are imported cannon fodder. Maybe a few hundred thousand Chinese on the polish border might slap some sense into these creatures.
I think that is Europe's plan. The Chinese will take Russia and set up an economic link with Europe.
Ukraine is free to NATO forces if they wish so. What's up with China? Russia needs China to bail them out from the terror of 1000 NATO troops ?
Do you feel the same way about Russian troops massing on the Ukraine border? It's their border and they're peaceful...so far. Yet the US is acting like it's a sign of invasion. You seem like you're in denial or something. And you also seem to have a double standard.
I'm not overly bothered by excercises. you will not find any posts from me compaining about the russian excercises going all the way to the beginning of this conflict.
The problem isn't excercises or massing on the border, it is that they cross it. I don't think i'm the one in denial if you can't even face the fact that Ukraine is the country is a country that has been visciously violated by Russia.
So these day a bunch of Nazi's shooting their way into government constitutes a sovereign nation. And the rape of NanKING was done by that other bunch of Fascists in Japan.
"And the rape of NanKING was done by that other bunch of Fascists in Japan."
And for that satanic show the Chinese people forever and ever remember about the Japs kindness.
I assume the same is true for the rats in Kiev, incl the cookie master and the Zioheads (incl. the grand chessboard initiative) behind this plot, and all their accomplices that involve in this sinister plot at later stage. A dear retribution is expected and welcomed.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.
Everything is in place. Only a catalyst is now needed to get the real party going.
Ah yes, turn up the het on that proxy war and load up on MIC stocks...
same as it ever was....
Body bags and flag draped coffins: a fitting end to Anglo-Zionist crumbleing death wish.
Meanwhile, the smell of defication overwhelms the former beacon of hope.
Anybody wanta buy some pencils? My sister? Made in the USA.
Possibly unrelated, but... I have quite a few mates who serve in branches of the UK military. There seems to be a fairly widespread 7-14 day leave ban in effect from next Saturday (20th). It's not everybody but seems to be a fairly big cross-section of the armed forces.
Somebody in the upper echelons think this idiocy in Ukraine might spiral out of control, ya think?
it could be as well that it's related to the Caliphate. note in the Nigel Farage video above how he explains that NATO ought to fight them instead of Putin
Could be. Or a bit of both. Either situation could certainly go entirely to shit in the next week or two.
With regard to ISIL/ISIS/IS, though, the leave ban seems to have been posted at least 2 weeks before Obama's 'I know it looks like Gulf War 3 but it's really not' speech. So either TPTB knew in advance what he was going to say and approximately when, or it's more to do with Ukraine.
Shit. Im going to die before i buy my mega Yacht...and that Ferarri. Fuck Fuck Fuck.
Vermont needs to seceed and fast. This is madness.
Look at all the Pro-Russkie comments on this board.
Yes, isn't it wonderful??
conscious being u should keep ur commie comments on RT instead, it looks more natural there.
Dude, you are a TOOL, and apparently you dont even fucking realize it
I notice that lately (since the Ukie volcano erupted) there have been so many shitty creatures coming to this board, so obvious that I care to compile a shitty list of those shills here.
For the millionth time, where is this being fought? Who is trying to figure out how to secure their border with their neighbor, and who is projecting power thousands of miles from their nice safe mansions? What would the US do if this was happening in Canada? I don't have to be "Pro-Russkie" to see these simple indisputable geographical truths for what they are. Who are the men willing to put their lives on the line to project this policy? This is evil. Imperial expansion through a continent we have zero contiguous borders with. Evil.
Let me introduce you to Tony:
craus meet Tony, he's a whack job as well, you will both get on like a house on fire.
You are a jackass. It's not Pro-Russian. It's Pro-Reason. I could look at your post and say, "look at all the sheep on this board."
As compared to what, the zioqueer nonsense?
good luck gentlemen
rapid trident sounds like a simply spiffing idea.
david camoron and barry obarme and benji netanyahoolio all wish you the best of luck even the pope believes we can rothschild win this.
the video below is fake russia cannot drive tanks out of planes at altitude the video is all cgi .
rapid trident lets roll all the way to moscow via vladyvostok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYVw4dne-0
"The Ukrainian militaries will also share their experiences gained during the anti-terrorist operation”
They sure have learnt how to retreat, surrender, defect or attack civilians. They also have developed a great level of expertise at POWS.
It's all gesticulation anyway. As a Russian PM put it, "Five rapid reaction diversionary groups is a problem we can solve with one missile".
The truth is, the Russians rightfully DESPISE the ham-fisted, moronically warmongering West.
Hopefully they'll do something about it this time around
I don't think this is over. Don't hold your breath for Putin to back-off or back-down, he has put down his marker and is now playing both Obama and Kerry for fools in a contest that cost Russia little. Putin wants a path or land link to Crimea and if he doesn't get Eastern Ukraine next week he will next month or next year at the latest. Putin holds all the cards and time is on his side. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/putin-holds-all-cards.html
AdvancingTime Putin holds all the cards??
It's time we beat the snot out of this punk in front of his boyfriends.
He holds nothing but his balls.
Yo crusty - Your girl old Yeller sets back central banking AND the women's movement every time she opens her mouth in front of the senate
We? You got a mouse in your pocket?
What's stopping you from taking up arms voluntaring in the Ukrainian Wehrmacht to go kick those Ruskies arse!
"now playing both Obama and Kerry for fools"
childs play...
Since other countries are arming Ukraine and they can't even use the excuse of them being a NATO member, than why can't Russia arm the separatists? Why are the rules different for the 'other side'? Oh that's right because the USA is exceptional.
Rikky they are not different.
Putin can keep arming whoever.
We'll just kick his teeth in and make him look like the fool he really is.
So keep arming separatist. Putin hope it's all worth it to you.
Who's this we you talk about?
unfortunately there is still a large contingent of brainwashed "patriots" who still believe the cold war memes. they can't wrap their minds around the fact that they have been lied to for 60 years or more (taught the lies through "history" classes for those youngsters out there). they have to live in a black/white or good/bad world. they can't comprehend the nuances of reality. they are the herd. reality is above their pay grade, I know because as a vet myself, I was once one of them. it's not a pleasant expierence to fall down the rabit hole but once you do, you have to question everything, including yourself and most sheep do not want that. if you challenge them they automatically throw you into their bipolor world metaphor. if you don't like what the US/NATO are doing then you must be a commie, RUSSIA/PUTIN lover.
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