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Scottish Referendum Preview: In 170 Years, Voters Chose "Independence" 88% Of The Time
Ahead of Thursday's critical Scottish Independence vote, we thought some context was worthwhile. As The Guardian notes, history shows that when people are asked, they almost always say yes to independence. Every election, country and place’s history is unique and different. Scotland is no exception. Yet, when given the opportunity, The Guardian finds countries tend to vote in favour of independence, and to do so decisively - across 50 votes since 1846, the vote for independence came out on top 88% of the time (and when the margin was small, voters always sided with independence.) But this time is different, right?
88% of Votes chose Independence since 1846
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We leave it to ChunkyMark the tax-driver to explain...
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This time there's diebold.
It's always different "this time". In fact that could be the name of your next website. The whole world is rigged now.
Shows you what actual power "voters" have. I'm telling you.... if the banksters don't want it... it's not going to happen. Hopefully, this time... I'll eat my words. (But I doubt it.)
TPTB don't want it and...
“When it becomes serious, you have to lie." -Jean Claude Juncker
The day after the vote? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10973293/David-Camer...
Animals of all kinds prefer freedom and independence. Just leave the gate open to your backyard and watch fluffy.
But people vote to enslave others. So a parasites "independence" (the ability to get a free scooter and a disability check) is completely dependent on the removal of your ability to do what you want with your money. The parasites vote, to strip you of your independence.
Eventually, parasitedom catches on and the parasites fight amongst themselves. (just observe the legal claims against corporations by one minority group against the company for hiring too many of the OTHER miniority group)
Eventually the parasites go cannibal as the hosts just stop providing. It'll get here too.
Ippen dooes net gotta gin wid da Union eh? Nah ne pissin' im den wickerwashie rubben, eh laddie?
Be votin' yea fer the chillen, God un Scootlund!
By yummie!
Aye, jess anodder wee dram dere Magnus befare you be shootin de dours, me lad.
Aye an make it fer thrrrrrrrree.
Aye! Here's toooya!
falls flat on floor, vomiting all over self
PS Regardless of the vote, the NWO will move on, growing ever so large and powerful..... as if the Borg had assimilated the entire planet
PSS Last time i was in Edinburgh, had just enjoyed a piping of the Black Watch and one of the lads was sitting upon the wall, legs akimbo, showin' all his nikked glory neath his kilt, drunk as could be, smilin' at the ladies.
Crimea missing from the list... (2014)
That youtube reminds me of WallStreetPro2!
Regards,
Cooter
bookmakers are paying out on a "No" vote, so maybe this time it is different unusual
they usually get it right.
strikeout not working ?? different
the undecided are still a large bunch and could swimg it either way.
Here is something of interest that throws a curve at everything:
[J]esuit agents are trying to turn the plans of the BRICS alliance to remove the petrodollar supremacy of the military-industrial complex into plans to use global currency reset for the Jesuit plan of world domination. You need to know that Jesuits were infiltrating China since the 16th century and they have a vast network there. Regardless, the top people within the Dragons and the Eastern Alliance are fully aware of the Jesuit manipulations and will NOT allow their positive plans to be misused.So there is progress being made regarding the fall of the petrodollar as the only reserve currency:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/business/2014-09/13/c_126981640.htm
There are tectonic geopolitical shifts happening in Europe as a response to the increased Galactic Central Sun activity.
Catalunya is trying to break free from Jesuit/SMOM controlled Spanish monarchy with close to 2 million people protesting in Barcelona:
http://rt.com/news/187164-catalonia-independence-rally-biggest/
At the same time, Scotland is preparing to break free from Rothschild control on Thursday:
http://scotreferendum.com/
Victory of the Light is near!
Posted by Cobra at 1:23 PM
http://2012portal.blogspot.ca/2014/09/planetary-situation-update_16.html
Good on you Chunky.
I guess UK/City of London expected another tame Canada/Quebec referendum. Apples and oranges BUT I think this is what the despots thought. Looked at Scotland. Looked at Quebec. Said no way but we will play along.
Please please please vote YES. But do not suck the EU tit. Take a lesson from Iceland.
"[T]ame Canada/Quebec referendum"?! Clearly you didn't live there. Tempers were high.
And if by "tame" you meant "predictable" or "preordained", note the <1% difference in the 1995 results. It was as close as it possibly could have been.
Yeah well. Breaking the purdah laws puts the vote in question. Either outcome. But dirty, filthy pool. Cheaters. As if any idiot cares if the Queen and family will starve if Balmoral and Crown lands are really theirs and not the possession of the people.
Oh please.
this is about english celebritys wanting scotish tax pounds to fix up their alleys and rain gutters while their buisness strips scottish government bear. This is of course cause the mass enclaves in London boroughs dont beleive in taxes.
No, this time there isn't Diebold. If, instead of making flippant, cynical, throwaway remarks, you could have been bothered to check, you'd have found that they're using paper ballot papers, counted manually.
Ah ZHers I have missed you. I logged in for the first time in months to make exactly this point, and what's the first comment on the article?
If Scotland were allowed to go independent, Catalonia would swiftly follow, followed by somewhere else, followed by the breakup of the EU. Banksters' one world wet dream stepping stone that the EU is, it'll never happen. So, I predict a close result, with the "No" vote winning by a small margin.
Boy, looks like the yes votes barely made it on no turnout...
The Chart That Has Shit Running Down Cameron's Legs?
another ploy to burn shorts. evil ALWAYS wins. independance will lose and when they cry foul the courts will be controlled by dr evil. you can not win. the only tool the people have is to STOP playing the game and STOP CONSUMPTION. for 9 months. the time it takes to give birth to a child. If we collectively stop consuming the financial house of cards comes crumbling down
>>>evil ALWAYS wins.
We must join with Sauron. It would be wise, my friend....
I agree but very hard to do. We are doing it individually, some of us. Taking $$ out of banks, brokerages, Got food etc. In other words maybe not divorce in Vegas but at least a separation of most assets. Hard to do as has cost me some penalties etc to withdraw from gov. sanctioned pension plans.
However it came to the question of "Lose it all? or pay a tax/penalty I can control now....and run with assets in my control." No-brainer actually.
My family will survive a long while. And if I am going to flip a coin on the outcome here? I am loading the dice in favour of everything I have read for years...and that is not betting on Central Banking or gov. or even items at the grocery store.
Cheers.
People in metro areas will have a harder time disengaging/surviving.
But you are right. A world-wide "worker/producer" boycott on consumerism would take the wind out of many sails. Coming to elections in much of the West. US/Canada/UK. About time they actually had to face the truth that is the voters no longer are willing to play then what?
"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
http://youtu.be/Q1qVJ8bTwuw
this guy's daft, couldn't listen anymore. Don't get in his cab.
He's cool. You're not...
The only fault I found was his belief in the state, political process, and a benevolent fist. Otherwise, his diagnosis of the problem, corruption, was spot on. As was his passion for a free humanity.
It's a natural process: nations are created, they merge, they split...
Important thing is that we keep this as peaceful and democratic as possible.
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Yes - this time is different.
DJIA rips 350 points higher after Scots vote no.
Independence is a like a lifeboat from the Titanic. Bring it, Take it. Nothing doing alone is better than 2nd class forever.
The execution of the Scot, David Haines, by ISIS, real or fake, was supposed to cause all the Scots to go hide behind the big ass of the Queen. And to keep on singing:
God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen
And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush
Who sings to celebrate their servitude in this day and age? And victorious over what? Common sense and fairness and reason?
so the polls are showing NO by a close margin --- BULLSHIT, polls are trying to form Public Opinion, bet the vote is a landslide
previously the polls were showing NO by a big margin, they have dramtaically switched in the last couple of weeks.
That is why there is the last minute panic and politicians promising even more the the Scots if they remain in the Union.
however by promising the Scots more the politicians have enraged the English & Welsh because why should theyn pay more to keep the Scots happy less disontent?
I kind of like Nigel Farage's take on it. IIRC he said the personally he regretted the possibility of the UK breaking up, but politically it would be to his party's advantage to have all those Scottish Labor party MP's out of the English Parliament and the reduction in welfare costs that Scotland costs.
Scotland is a money sink upon the UK as a whole... Questions be who gets the oil, etc. I'm sure the Scots think it's theirs and they can always sell it to.... ta dah! The English to the south as always has been done. At world prices. Plus, the City of London will squeal with glee, like a small nymphomaniac being diddled by the whole ball team. What wonders they can perpetrate upon their newly minted "cousins" in ever such need of Professional Financial Services.
LOL
The more things change, the more they seem .....
Just look at the history of Scotland and how the English have treated the Scots..... you don't really think the Scots will come out better, do you?
Aye, vote yes and your fiat currency may die. Vote no and your fiat will live -- at least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!!!
Keep on stacking, and for heaven's sake VOTE YES!!Dear Scotland,
I have heard you are like The Santa or Tooth Fairy but I don't believe the hype.
Please show the US how to become independent and I promise we'll never kill 100,000 people ever again.
Sincerely,
Little Donnie Rumsfeld
PS: My aspartame is totally safe
I don't think there's a chance in hell the numbers won't be fudged. NO Wins at 50.01 Nuff said.
Hey! That lady reporter from the BBC who said building 7 was gone when it was still visible over her right shoulder is on again and says that the results are in with 50.01% at NO, on staying with Downing Street and the City!
She's so smart!
Say.... how'd you know already?
That would be her left shoulder, Knux.......if it's the same vid I saw... but I am being a jackass. Looking at the tube, yes it would be to your right.
Don't mind me, I am just pissed we don't have a vote for Southern Independence i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you think reporters are omnipotent, that if they say something it must be true, and that they never make mistakes.
Odd worldview you have, there.
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People are completely wrong about the Chancellor George Osborne.
He’s not a wanker at all. He’s a genius.
Yes, I know he looks like a wanker. And he sounds like one. And OK, he quite often acts like one too. But I’m getting fed up of people criticising him without looking at the facts.
So here they are:
2012 – A Year Of GrowthCredit where credit’s due – Mr Osborne had told us his 2012 budget would be a budget for growth and that is exactly what he gave us.
Just look at this raft of growth figures under his stewardship of the economy:http://tompride.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/george-osborne-is-not-a-wanker-hes-a-genius/
Change the name to Barack Obama, reomve the VAT reference and it's a carbon copy of the US.
Except the Scots tend to be very pale people.
If I had a son, he'd look like a Scot!!!
Oh, wait ;-)
Yowza
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=black+scottie+dog&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35
You dirty dog ;-)
Bookies are already paying off bets on a NO vote.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scottish-independence-referendum-bo...
I hope to be flying the Scottish flagg after wensday, and ill be running up the stars and bars. Drunk on scotch
Er, go right ahead -- but the referendum's not until Thursday.
"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Joseph Stalin)
With the Scots getting a referendum of independence from Westminster rule, I want to know when the English will get one.
The English are just as sick of the Westminster elected dictatorship as they are.
Pretty hilarious seeing wankers like Eddie Izzard, Sir Bob Geldof and others begging Soctland to stay yesterday at some rally. They said something like "yes we also hate f**king Westminster but you should stay."
I think I would vote for Stalin before I would vote for that vile wanker Ed Miliband. Ed, Cameron, Clegg et al are owned by the Red Shield.
The funny video of these idiots going to Glasgow by train for a rally. Milliband gave a speech. This would be more than enough to get the Scots to vote Yes.
Absolutely.
I watched Sky News Adam Boulton interviewing Salmond last night and after throwing one after another anti-Yes "trip-you-up" questions at Salmond, spent the whole time interrupting his replies. Salmond had a job getting a word in edgeways. Boulton went on the say "Every respected economist says that going it alone will not be good for Scotland". His idea of a "respected economist" is someone who sucks at the teet of government and/or works for a bank or financial institution.
smacker, re: "The English are just as sick of the Westminster elected dictatorship as they (the Scots) are."
so you see this as an anti-establishment poll? not that I'm that happy to read "elected dictatorship" (you know I'm a critic of the FPTP voting system)
I'm asking more because I often hear after a referendum that people voted in a certain way as an act of protest for something completely different yet related
"so you see this as an anti-establishment poll?"
I see it as an anti-Westminster poll. Many Scots are sick of being ruled from Westminster, which for all intents and purposes, is a system of elected dictatorship. Even Paddy Ashdown (ex-Leader of LibDems) described it that way a few years ago.
Many Scots want to run their country their way.
And the reason is simple: the system of government is not really controlled by elected representatives. It is owned and run by armies of powerful unelected apparatchiks (ie Civil Service) and The City etc etc. The electorate hardly get a look in. No newly elected govt walks into No.10 or the Foreign Office or Home Office with a clean sheet. Their policies are articulated by boffins and powerful agencies of the State. EG: Met Police, UKBA and many others.
The FPTP system is no better or worse than many other systems. What would make a huge difference is for Britain to have a strong written constitution which was independently supervised and which prevented any elected government from overstepping its delegated authority.
Fat chance of that happening without a revolution.
Hope they vote yes.The sooner people get out from under GS the better.
Ok, so they vote, but how often is it granted? I look at the list and most appear to be at the tail end of an empire where it couldnt be held together anyway. Do you think if Ubekistan voted for independance in the '60's, they would have got it?
Come to think of it, if the South voted now, it would be granted?
"Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton, do dah, do dah"
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ypou+tube+foghornleghorn+camptown+race...
Perhaps you need to read up on that former entity, The British Empire...
WTF? When will we get freedom from the Nobel Prize Winner?
Obama urges Scotland not to ruin America's 'special relationship' with Britain by voting for independenceHe's like a modern day Thomas Jefferson or sumpin ;-)
Good news for the "Ayes"
Follow Obama and you will head towards stupidity and as a slave
Remember the "Change" Obama" promised.
Yes, he gave it to the Americans.
A " Change" for the "Worse"
Everybody (but the Queen) is trying to shoot the black-swan yes vote down back in Brittany. Should I say good luck...not! Fear not indepence to self governess, it is an earned privalige to have self determination.
Lot of people receiving government checks.
The benefit of independence is: ?
Glasgow is heroin capital?
The squid waits patiently.
"Aye or Die!" - Groundskeeper Willie
The Sad part about this is that the people of Scotland actually think that thier votes count!! Powers that be are Locked and Loaded X 1000 You don't Steal money from the Rich, especially when they have had time to get all thier Ducks in a row. Scotland is a No vote period, now let the Sheeple vote and let them think they had a choice or a chance.
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Hey Scots
Heard that Cameron, Clegg & Milliband are offering you more money.
Are you up for sale?
Remember to Vote "YES" if you cannot be bought.
( To buy you with digitally printed money of course is a piece of cake for those guys)
Alex Salmond put it well when he said there aren't No votes. Just deferred yeses. As soon as europe goes down in 2016, the referendum vote will come with strikes.
This is actually quite funny. London wants and begs Scotland to stay united and yet they are preparing to leave the EU.
Can the EU beg Cameron and the UKIP to stay united as well??? Can Europe say to the UK that it would break our heart if you leave and that it will be forever?
Want to hear more irony or hipocrisy? Looking at that list right now:
Ukraine voted to become independent of the USSR - and they got what they wanted. Now some of their territories are asking for the exact same thing and suddenly it is a crime.
I fucking hate this world. Best times to become a Pirate or a lone Anarchist!
Scottland follow Iceland.. Please please inspire. There will be a lot of K's on the backs of the Vichy as history repeates itself. My hope is decency reigns and the money laundering, drug smuggling, economic hit men stop. Here is your FT and global bankers fighting FREEDOM.. ONE BIG LIE.
Spooner was big time abolinist and could not stop there God Lincoln who murdered millions and submittited a whole race to another 100 years of Jim Crow slavery. US, England tea in China opinum wars, Nation Building, saction seige machines, usury and credit slavery.....
YES YES YES don't let the EU argument fly Nany Nany not needed..... Texas, Catalonia, California, Massachusett, to follow.
"The Rothschilds, and that class of money-lenders of whom they are the representatives and agents -- men who never think of lending a shilling to their next-door neighbors, for purposes of honest industry, unless upon the most ample security, and at the highest rate of interest -- stand ready, at all times, to lend money in unlimited amounts to those robbers and murderers, who call themselves governments, to be expended in shooting down those who do not submit quietly to being robbed and enslaved." by: Lysander Spooner(1808-1887) Political theorist, activist, abolitionist Source: "No Treason #6" (1870) Rating: Categories: Banking, Corruption, Debt, Despotism, Economics, Illuminati, Power, Rothschild, Slavery, Tyranny
Politicians always and everywhere are criminals and enemies to the productive citizenry.
Keep your enemies ever closer. And watch them with unblinking eyes.
For a period of time stretching some years I made a point of asking everyone I knew during election season, whether they would prefer to elect a benevolent idiot or an Evil Genius.
I don't recall that anyone ever chose the benevolent idiot.
I can't imagine what they were thinking. For the benevolent idiot wishes to do well, and may on occasion bumble his way to the right thing. But the Evil Genius will have you in the meat grinder to consume your substance every single time.
Hope may spring eternal, and the South may rise again...but by all accounts the odds are against a good outcome while intelligent men prefer Evil to Benevolence.
The vote will go towards independance.............the pound will come down...........the US dollar will go up. The Euro will also go down as countries threaton to leave.....the currencies will align like the stars............and voila, everything is in place for the NEW WORLD ORDER.