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Scottish Independence: Politicians Love Democracy So Much They're Trying To Subvert It
Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,
The polls in Scotland will close this week on one of the more important elections in recent history… perhaps one of the only elections that actually matters.
Rather than a typical vote to see who the captain of the Titanic will be, Scots are deciding whether they want to be free and independent from the UK.
Every eligible voter has a say, and a simple majority decides the outcome for everyone else.
By definition, this is the PUREST possible form of the democratic process.
What’s ironic here is that ‘democracy’ is typically held up as the hallmark of free society.
Western nations have spent years (and trillion of dollars) force-feeding representative ‘democracy’ down the throats of developing countries at gunpoint.
Opening his second Presidential term in 2005, George W. Bush famously told the world that “it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture. . .”
Given the west’s big love for democracy, you’d think this instance in Scotland– the most fundamental example of the democratic process– would be able to take place free, unfettered, and uninfluenced by government.
Government, in fact, is supposed to be the responsible steward to protect and champion democratic rights. At least, that’s the BS they’re constantly selling us.
But that’s not what’s happening.
British politicians are scared to death that Scotland will file for divorce. So they’re doing everything they can to influence the outcome of this supposedly impartial democratic process.
They’ve spent an incalculable amount of money trying to influence the outcome, effectively subverting a democratic election.
Their claim is that the government knows better than you do. They say they’re doing this for your own good. If Scotland breaks away, your children and grandchildren will suffer immeasurably as a result.
In other words, you NEED US TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. You cannot function without us being in charge of you.
The British government is spreading untold fear, paranoia, and propaganda to drive this point home, all in an effort to influence the outcome of a supposedly free and fair election.
It’s incredibly hypocritical. And the government’s desperation drives home how fragile this system really is.
They know how much weaker and impotent they’ll be if Scotland becomes independent. And they’re terrified of it.
But here’s the thing– this isn’t even the real story. The outcome of the election is irrelevant.
The real issue here is that this election is even happening at all.
Bear in mind that human nature is highly resistant to change. This is the way of the universe.
Sir Isaac Newton told us that an object at rest tends to stay at rest unless acted upon by an external force of sufficient enough to overcome the object’s inertia.
In chemistry, activation energy is defined as the minimum energy needed to be input in order to produce a chemical reaction.
A wooden log in a fireplace doesn’t spontaneously combust. You must first add sufficient energy (heat) to the system before the wood will burn.
Until that activation energy is reached, no reaction will occur.
Humans are the same. Our natural state is to remain at rest. Overcoming our inertia is incredibly difficult. Doing so requires tremendous energy. And motivation.
The fact that millions of people in Scotland are even considering rocking the boat and radically change is very telling.
It shows there is a deep, deep dissatisfaction with the status quo. People are sick and tired of the way things are. The system has completely failed them. And they want change.
This is huge. And it’s a sign of things to come.
The dissatisfaction is growing worldwide. As I reported yesterday, the latest Gallup numbers show that only 23% of Americans are satisfied with the direction of the country.
Change is coming. And not just any change. Deep, radical change– a fundamental reset in the way we do business, the way we organize ourselves as societies, and the way we view money.
There’s tremendous opportunity for people who understand this trend and stay in front of it. And frankly I think this makes it a very exciting time to be alive.
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Goldman Sachs would rather kill them with Ebola than let them have democracy.
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This is a really shitty election.
If "Yes" wins, the SNP is a French style socialist economy on the British aisles - however, it weakens the EU at its weakest points, per that idiot that runs spain right now.
If "no" wins, it hurts the independence campaigns in Flanders, Catalonia and Südtirol -- all of which would deal a death knell to their respective countries.
I would rather throw Scotland under the bus with Franco-Socialism and destroy the EU that much faster, thus my "Yes" vote -- if I could vote.
Scotland might turn out to be more of a Swiss/Icelandish mix. Instead of banks fleeing, plenty might turn up....
It's all about control and the control will still be there.
LOLZ if Scotland starts selling oil in RUB & CNY.
A YES vote in Scotland is as likely as Ron Paul winning the GOP nomination in 2012.
It's not the votes that count, but who counts the votes. *cough* Diebold *cough*
Despite the loyal support, the results always turn out different.
There have been 50 independance votes in recent history. 44 ended in Yes and 6 ended in NO. Two of the No votes were Quebec. (canada)
Politicians Love Democracy So Much They're Trying To Subvert It
Aw, that’s nothing compared to abandoning free market principles to save the free market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmi8cJG0BJo
There's probably a lot of truth in this. "And it would be more than just politicians" as well if so...
The oligarchs will never leave anything important to chance. Everything which can be controlled will be controlled. If it cannot be controlled, it will be outlawed. If voting is allowed today, it is because it is controlled.
www.yesscotland.net has been crashed.. cyber-attack?
Based on Natural Law (which is almost wholy disregarded by control feaks) the No campaign has done a smash up job of inclining folks to vote yes! Nothing fails like success...
The Scots will end up rejecting their freedom. They'd rather be tied to Britain. William Wallace died for nothing.
Just reload in case of timeout. I guess the site is just too busy!
YES !
and I would add "OF COURSE"
I had to click on the link to check it out. As soon as I saw that blathering idiot there was no need to continue.
This article is complete rubbish, even by Simon Black's intermittent standards.
First, this isn't a choice between a huge, overbearing English state and a lean, free-market, libertarian Scottish one run by the heirs of Adam Smith. It's a choice between one set of big-government politicians and another.
If anything, the current Scottish governing party would turn into something even more socialist, interventionist, and nasty than Westminster is today; just look at some of the ominous comments made by former SNP deputy leader Jim Sillars, for instance.
As for the conduct of the campaign itself, it's not as if the Yes side is a bunch of angels.
Finally to say that "they" will be "weaker and [more] impotent"... Well, it depends on which "they" you mean. It overlooks the fact that Scottish independence ought to be a big boost for the governing Tory (Conservative) party, as the main Labour opposition will immediately lose around 40 safe seats. The rest of the UK may indeed be weaker as a result, over the long term; but from a partisan point of view it's a winner.
Robert the Bruce (Angus MacFadyen) is voting YES.
Mel Gibson (William Wallace) would too, if he could.
The Uk doesn't use Diebold or punched thingies (with re-allocatable chads), you mark your choice by putting an X in a box with a pencil.
It still doesn't solve the (alleged) Stalin problem ("It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes.")
The only sure way to solve that is with the Blockchain
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1g350g/could_bitcoin_the_blockc...
g0atrider claimed Bitcoin would change the world but he didn't understand that BTC is an app that runs on the Blockchain.
Satoshi created the Blockchain and it is truly revolutionary, a transparent unfalsifiable transaction log that can be used for everything from confirming fair voting to the provenence of the steak (horse) on your plate.
(BTC is just a demo app cuz most people understand monetary transactions)
The revolution has already happened, it will take a little while for the rest of world to catch up.
I predict a slim (very) NO vote simply because currently, close votes are the easiest to rig with least chance of being found out.
+1 on the blockchain.
~ on the depressing logic of the easy to manipulate, slim margin vote.
This place is definitely going up in the smarty pants ledger of late.
good remark, but I somewhat disagree
by using traditional paper ballots, you keep the thing as local as possible
now, the counting of the ballots, in Europe, is usually done on the spot, in the locale of the ballots
and that's where local civic direct participation kicks in: the local counting is done in public, by volunteers from the whole political spectrum, who are present during the whole process, and can check on every single part of it
this is the very moment where multi-party setups pay the greatest dividend: by having lots of different views and lots of different groups there, and less possibility of cheating
once counted, the local poll result has just to be added together, a process that can be checked on with a simple Excel spreadsheet
electronic counting, on the other side, will always bear the danger of being tampered with. if it's important enough, and voting counts toward that category, it's important enough to be done by people, in an open and visible manner
Exactly. The Blockchain is an brilliant feat of cryptographic technology, but who is going to explain to Granny in the Orkney Islands how that works, and why it guarantees a fair result?
Whatever you think of the entire referendum and of each of the sides, the way the Scots are running it is just right: local counts, paper ballots which can be recounted if necessary, etc. Simples.
Actually that's a good point. I don't like Bitcoin as a peer to peer currency, the block chain means that for hiigh transaction numbers you need significant computing resources, thereby centralising it.
However the chain itself does have some interesting properties...
Personally predict a Yes win by a fairly large margin. I think the poll companies have been targeting No supporters in order to manipulate public support.
First, that every year for the past 32 years – the period covered by the Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) report – has included a deduction from Scotland’s block grant equivalent to our population percentage share of UK debt. Over that period, that amounted to £64.1 billion.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland-overpays-for-uk-debt-1-3185848#.UoNE0po7_60.twitter
lets hope the real "good guys" take this one.
Scotland wins either way. They've gotten concessions just with the "mere" threat of actual self determination.
Scots are the Jews of the North; in a positive sense. Has everyone forgotten the "canny Scot" ? They'll be surprised how well they can do, in banking and other things once they're not tied to a dying empire living out it's dream world.
Well, if they vote no, then they are going to get fucked beyond belief for starting this in the first place.
So, a yes vote is a win/win, no matter what. There will be fire either way. Why not free fire?
VOTE YES YOU BASTARDS!!!
"I gave Mornay double his lands in Scotland and matching estates in England. Lochlan turned...
for much less."
Lochlan and Mornay both deservedly die.
This might interest
http://www.fgfbooks.com/Manion/2013/Manion130608.html
The movie made for great theater but wasn't historically accurate, it was John de Menteith who betrayed Wallace in the employ of Edward I making him a traitor to the Scots...a douchebag (Edward I) of the highest order to be sure but it was the way kings (and emirs) did it back in the day.
As far as the movie, prima-nocte also (for example) didn't happen.
Edward was a vile individual who didn't need embellishment as far as I'm concerned, he was deceptive, crass, with ruthless ambition fully deserving of the mantle king of england ;-)
"VOTE YES YOU BASTARDS!!!"
Might not " VOTE YES YOU BLOODY BASTARDS!!!" be moar apropos?
Yes we were sold; by those who were of us; but not us. The traitors within.
Very well put Sat, of us but not us. Enemies/traitors within.
The true mark of a man (in my opinion) is one who can see that all the luxuries of the world can be laid before him, his for the taking but refuses to betray his priceless trust for mere wealth. He knows he would be a slave to the one(s) who laid it there.
Trust is a remarkable thing not easily garnered or kept, from that springs any & all loyalties.
If I could vote sat800 a hundred times, I would. That said, what kinda asshole moron junks an observation that is obviously and unambiguously true?
Is Lindsey Graham active on this board?
Fuck!
May peace be unto you, nmewn!
"Trust is a remarkable thing not easily garnered or kept, from that springs any & all loyalties."
True that Brother, you know the Power in that, because you're a Man, that's why we Trust in God.
Harb, I reckon the junks think you're religious. Maybe you are, I dunno. I'll be honest, I am not. I actually hold religion at arm's length whenever I encounter it.
God, on the other hand is to me an entirely different entity than anything taught in any religion that I know of.
In fact, I don't think we can know God. We can acknowledge that God is real, but we can't know God. Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool, imho.
Further, anyone who claims to be the manifestation of God on earth deserves immediate death.
In my personal religion, which I created for myself, God is simply energy. The positive and negative aspects of God are not only present, they are necessary.
God doesn't care what you do or think, you are irrelevant. You are simply a microbe in the petri dish that God made as an experiment.
The same is true for me.
Happy trails!
send in the
Diebold electronic voting machines
I did vote YES!! No need to shout!! :D
You wanna play chess, but I think we need to play shitgums. In other words, all of us citizens of the west wouid do well to ignore and avoid the 'guidance' of parties and leaders. I'd vote yes as well, but for different reasons.
The Scots and the Irish are (or were) a hardy lot, I hope they do the right thing.
I hope they can get up in the morning despite the hangover to vote.
My connection just got twitchy, but yeah, there's that too. Sry if it comes up a dupe.
It's not an election. It's a referendum.
The only question on the ballot paper is "Should Scotland be an independent country?"
The first Scottish government elections will come later and they may well vote socialist, or they may vote otherwise, they can change their minds every 5 years. It's not related to the referendum though.
Listen, Crazy Cat. I'm all for "INDEPENDENCE". Fuck those brits, no matter their history with India!
Thanks for the impromptu poll.
Still a little sensitive about the estimated 60 million Indians that the British Empire allowed to starve are we?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_B...
Listen up Raj ... a proper Empire doesn't run on charity so why would you expect the massive Indian exports of grain to stop when the locals were starving?
I must admit that the 1943 famine that killed 1.5 million was a little messed up however. After appropriating your grain Churchill refused the assistance to India offered by Canada, Australia and other nations. Difficult to explain that one...
Listen. The Englishman must be "FED" and fed well. But in the end we learned and now the people have the gold.
I love ZerOhead, but touche' Bangalore, touche'!
Christian Scottish ancient blood is resisting the ever increasing Zionist/Jewish anti Christian Status Quo (along with the pedophile Royal buddies). What a shameful Country the UK is, just like the US....run and managed by pedophile luciferian scum buckets.
I hope Scotland wins and starts doing business with Russia sending the Zios off to live in the own hell.
Billy, do have any idea how long it will take us to cross the rubicon of Zionist/Jewish/Christian dogma? I don't either, but until we do, the oppression of the individual will continue, unabated.
Scotland the Brave Listen to the whole thing for the Scots who want to be free today.
The British was just doing their duty to their imperial masters in London.
India didn't do nearly as bad as the Irish in the Great Famine as a percentage of their population that died.
After appropriating your grain Churchill refusedthe assistance to India offered by Canada, Australia and other nations. Difficult to explain that one...
Too many Indians, not enough Chiefs......
Churchill, like Andrew "The only good Indian is a dead Indian" Jackson, didn't like Indians. He also thought they needed punishing because some Indians thought the Japanese, as bad as they were, couldn't be any worse than the English.
I can not see any reason why Scotland should not vote for independence.
I would not worry about the threats coming from the no brigade. A independent Scotland would have no problems doing business with other states. It might even open up new possibilities, like for example Iceland has a free trade agreement with China, something the EU does not have.
Isolation or sanctions would have to be approved by the British people, and that is unlikely to happen. I would rather expect good will and cooperation between the two nations.
The future for Scotland is best kept in the hands of her people.
The Icelandic flag was raised for the first time December 1st 1918.
That same year Iceland had the coldest winter ever recorded, Katla volcano erupted with the largest eruption ever seen since the first settlers came in 870. A week after Katla erupted the Spanish flu came to Iceland and killed 484 people.
Nothing in the world should stand between freedom and Independence, not natural disasters, war or anything else.
And certainly not some barking politicians.
I found out I am a Scot to my astonishment 2 years ago.
YES - BUT NO EU I SAY
Just trade.
Learn the truth Scotland.
http://members.tripod.com/sassyoh_4/americanclancummingassociation/id6.html
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mainegenie/COMYN.htm
We also helped found Scotland on my Irish side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergus_M%C3%B3r
To those of you who are of religious or historical bent, I submit there is an ancient connecting of the peoples of the today's world seeking liberty.
It is deep.
And Subconscious
http://www.magnificatmealmovement.com/study-points/the-voyage-of-zarah/
Compare the link below, the map BI put out yesterday and compare it to the places named in the above story, "the Voyage of Zarah" Coincidence. No. God Exists.
http://www.businessinsider.com/map-of-separatist-movements-in-europe-2014-9
http://www.associate.com/stewart/stone_o_scone.html
http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/redhand.html
We know the truth, I hope and pray my fellow Scots learn it like the quickening.
Sheep Guts Baby!
As I was subliminally referencing the Common Consciousness and I scroll down a bit and see you reference to the subconscious causing me to repeat the following
Scotland the Brave Speakers on 11. Open all the windows and release the Piobaireachd. Scots want to be free today.
Yes Scotland do it and yes to independance. They have been saying no and scaring Scotland from independance since Longshanks.
Diebold?
Scotsmen?
They're going to bottle it, or MI5 will be stuffing the ballot boxes for 150% turnout Tower Hamlets-style.
My opinion... you vote...the end result will be the same. "They" will never let this happen. PLEASE let this happen and show the world that you can say FUCK YOU!
I watched a spot on CBC (Canada) last night and it was interesting in that most people were upset with....drum roll.....The Bankers. So good timing on the independance vote Mr Cameron you dumb fuck.
>scotch for yes. >burbon for no
you leave good bourbon and scotch out of this, mister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ECZMvbLxg
guess I made that a double
The article is exactly right; and I don't believe it's possible for a modern population anywhere to resist this barrage of professional propaganda; sadly.
Imagine power outages ... what an opportunity to advance the human race!
Simon Black - the guy who has been wrong on everything but has enough jack and no obligations to call himself "sovereign man". Doods really- the olde NO hedge would never post this shill.
Absolutely no chance of the drunk Scots leaving the 'Union" they cannot even tie they own shoes without Londons blessing.
Ty, please stop wasting time and space on this issue. The Scots make the Iros across the way look productive. BTFD and go home richer...
And fuck you, range rider.
Fuck you and your drunken whore of an Irish Mother.
Leave us Mics outta this, SAT
He was panting both Scots and Mics with the same brush...
FU SAT 800 -
I have a present for you.
Me too,
Come out You Black n' Tans.
I'll tell you something interesting that has the virtue of being true. If you go to the British Science Museum in London you'll be treated to all the wonderful mechanical and electrical inventions that England such wealth as an exporter. But if you go to the Scottish Science Museum in Edinburgh, you will find everyone of them duplicated there. James Watt, Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, and Charles Parsons were all Scots. And so many others, it would tire the fingers to type it all. The English claiming that they invented anything is exactly like the old Soviet history book that said that Mikhail Gomovitch, or someone, invented the light bulb. Nope. that's not the way it happened. Look it up; you'll be amazed.
How the Scots invented the Modern World:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Scots-Invented-Modern-World/dp/0609809997/ref=...
As opposed to the US that ignores Joseph Swan and does niot know contact lenses were Czech or biros Hungarian and the first Sikorski helicopter flew in St Petersburg or that work on the atom bomb began in London before being integrated into The Manhattan Project
So if the Scottish leave the Union, Britains gift to the world will be a weapon of mass desruction. Brilliant.
you forgot the word ANOTHER
financialization came from london
aren't there any honest politicians left anymore.......
yes in case you are wondering that is the stupidest question ever
Writing from CH which could have been French or German, or Italian or Austro-Hungarian ...
CH: a small country of some 8.3 million people with few natural resources but a Swiss Franc which is welcome all over the fucking globe.
Look, independence works.
many resources :
fresh water, tourism & let's not forget the ww2 gold
as much as i love switzerland (really), truth however can't be denied : switzerland is a bankster heaven with some sort of contract with the elite that kept it warproof over the centuries (and nowadays europroof)
That warproofness is called a citizen militia. All Swiss have to do service for a year and keep their rifles afterwards. Small country but they could probably mobilize 2 million men if need be in 48 hours. And it's a moutainous country too...it would be the European Afghanistan.
And the internal stability over the centuries can be explained by their small, weak, and limited national government. It never gets so big that it could sink the whole nation with its mistakes.
yes there is one even two :
pepe Mujica (uruguay), Morales (Bolivia)
& possibly a bunch in scandinavia & island
Don't the Brits use Diebold?
Well we certainly don't in Scotland. Paper ballots, hand counted. The only computerised part of the process is verifying signatures on postal ballots. If the machine can't match them it gets hand over to a human to check. All the vote counting is done manually. No hanging chads, just a piece of paper with a big yes or no box on it. And here was me thinking that 'keep it simple, stupid' was an American expression ...
And who reports the results???
I glad to hear this. Simple usually helps reduce fraud and it should take longer to make sure it is fair and not rigged like all US elections.
I pray the Scots vote Yes. This will probably be the only chance they will ever get unless the UK implodes. Hopefully they will not rush into the EU or Euro if they gain independence.
If anyone here would care to read something on the subject of Scottish Independence which never once uses "false flag", "zionist conspiracy", "obamascot" etc etc here is a link to a rather interesting article:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/scottish-independence-vote-views-...
If anyone here is able to offer a reliable VPN to break BBC's iplayer and enable "foreign" viewers please post one or many for Mozilla Firefox if you please. I am using one already but always need a back-up.
ajax - try this.
Go to the Firefox tools/addons menu. Select "Extensions" from the left hand menu.
Use the search box in the upper right corner and type in the words Media Hint.
Download & install Media Hint to Firefox extensions. Many U.S. based and other countries internet videos can't be viewed if your computer doesn't have a U.S. based or local country I.P. address. This addon helps mask your real I.P. address without using Tor and might work with your VPN. I have no idea if it works everywhere but it does work well where I am.
Pay the licence fee (tax on televisions) like all the other sheep.
It is a rigged election by the scots. 16 year olds allowed to vote?? Are you kidding me? I hope they go all argentina.
16 year olds are even allowed to have sex, and join the army here. Used to be able to leave school and smoke too, but you wouldn't want kids doing anything dangerous or life changing.
Go Scotland! If the YES vote passes tomorrow seal your borders immediately to keep the camel piss drinkers and other assorted rabble out. Reject multiculturalism with all hearts or become a US, Belgium, France etc.
The Scots are more multiculturalist than the English. The two main political parties are likely to have Muslim leaders within the next few years despite the small (75000) Muslim population.
Don't know about you Mellish, but there is lots of Scottish blood in TeamDepends. If it sounds cliche then that is an indictment of the times- it is all about freedom. The weight of this event is becoming palpable, at least to us. Mel Gibson had the audacity to say who owns Hollywood, and was put through the grinder for it. But his performance in Braveheart is one for the ages. Can hear the bagpipes (getting wobbly but not in a fall down kind of way)....
I lived there. My wife and son were born there, I know Scotland and the Scots intimately. Braveheart was a propaganda piece that played incredibly fast and lose with the truth. Both Wallace and Robert The Bruce were members of the aristocracy juggling for political power. The plight of the common man was not any of their concern. Ironically, the Scotland of today is an almost exclusively socialist nation. The SNP courted the minority vote heavily in this referendum and they will pay for that later.
We mentioned Braveheart to cast light upon "history", and peoples' perceived perception of it. But Wallace was not "aristocracy", he was someone who had risen to the top through charisma and hard, repeat hard, work.
Poor history if you bring the Mel Gibson film into it. Like most of his works, they are theatrical and ridden with historical fiction. Wallace's family was well connected with the levers of power, hard working (and a good general) he may have been but he was born a nobleman.
"history", see it now? You call Wallace "aristocracy". According to whom? The Queen Mum? The House of Windsor? A Scot was never aristocracy.
LOL! Ok. I see history is not your strong point. Probably too many Mel Gibson movies, I suspect.
These are quote marks: "". Got it?
Scot was never aristocracy.
And where did you get that old bollocks???
Should have just said......Bollocks
The SNP courted the minority vote heavily in this referendum and they will pay for that later.
What does that mean? Isn't Salmond SNP and for Yes? If No wins then SNP gets punish by NuLab in Westeminister?
I know the Labour Party in England would be destroyed with the Yes vote. The Tories would be in control but Cameron is z-scum like Miliband. UKIP would hopefully become the leading party in England.
Farage seemed to be more for No but I think UKIP would be a big winner with the Yes vote because they would gain in England.
FM = do you think Yes can win? I hope so.
Fielding, you are so correct. I cannot understand how so many are fooled into believing that the Scots are the ones opposed to being over run with 3rd world immigrants. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DEMANDED IT!
And they are uber socialist to boot, complete with promises to match.
This will end well I'm sure.
The awful weather will save Scotland.
and wait until it actually gets cold
like other bubbles, we've been in a warm one for quite a while
...except these real facts that get in the way of some of the BS in that movie.
http://members.tripod.com/sassyoh_4/americanclancummingassociation/id6.h... the truth about the political calculator that got them where they are today. Familiar?
Otherwise cool movie, Mel surely did not know.
MY BOLD Prediction!!!
1) Scotts Vote! High-Turnout!
2) Independence vote fails :(
3) 3 - 4 Weeks later evidence comes out that the vote was rigged!!
4) Bloodshed and Violence
Still a bunch of Irish guys around to teach the Scotts what's what per #4.
It's Scots, not Scotts. :-)
Unless less you need to feed your lawn, Lad!
Feed it!
Scots need a lesson in bloodshed from the Irish? Maybe in Independence but the Scots live to beat the hell out of each other.
"Begbie" is a prototypical Scotsman who gets in fights in pubs because they love to fight. Warning: lots of blood and violence in this scene. Shit - the fake ISIS beheadings have less blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc3E7UkIzt4
What a load of shyte. You understand that Trainspotting is just a movie, right? Step away from the stereotype and have a look at the facts instead:
Crime rates 2013 - Column 1 Murder, Column 2 Rape, Column 3 Robbery, Column 4 Aggravated assault
Scotland 2.66 20 60 117 USA 4.7 26.8 113 241Well, that and it doesnt become a statistic if everyone laughs and goes home after all's said and done. But call in the po-lice, and it gets documented.
Nah, no skewed stats around here...
The BBC - Lying Liars & Whores since 9-11/
BBC Skank Jane Standling standing in front of WTC-7, reporting (lying) that the building already fell.
Fuck you BBC
ENHANCED VERSION: News Reports WTC7 Fell Before It ...
Video for jane standley wtc7? 3:07? 3:07
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI
It isn't just the BBC but they really have to be shut down. Coverage has been completely biased. Lets take the coverage of the rally in Glasgow today. both Yes and No in George Square.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759464/Sky-News-anchor-Kay-Burl...
It's pretty clear that the No campaign is made up of some shipped in British National Party (Nazis) and the Scottish Labour party members (talk about strange bedfellows). It looks lie there is maybe 10 of them (with some oblique camera angles to hide how few there are). Where as directly across the square are thousands of Yes campaigners. No wonder the No group are feeling a bit intimidated.
The BBC is a leading western media and very experienced in reporting news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fc6vBCjVmA
The "explanation" of the BBC about this disinfo-accident is so unbelieveable and embarassing that I probably couldn't believe it being authentic, if it wasn't on BBC's own homepage. If RT would report that was the BBC's explanation, I definately wouldn't believe it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspir...
James Harding, the head of BBC News is Jewish, as is their top reporter on the Scottish story Nick Robinson. The bias represents their interests not those of the viewing public.
A YES in Scotland also means another firm step towards a nuclear-free world. That'll scare the shit out of the war machine. Deep, radical change indeed.
LOL! Are you fucking serious? So tell me, dreamer (not the only one...) are you going to be going to NK soon and asking Piglet the Mighty to hand his over for destruction?
because.... PEACE!
One country at a time. England won't be able to afford nukes after Scottish independence. And to defend what 1/2 of an island? There goes one nuclear piggy.. and 6 more to go. YES!
Nukes are the only thing that brings peace to first world nations. Gaddafi learned the hard way what happens when a nation caves to international pressure and disbands the nukes.
You think Russia is still in one piece because the UN is trying real hard to bring a peaceful resolution to their disputes with Russia?
Nuclear weapons are the only reason we haven't already fought a third world war.
And, in any case, whatever you think of them, the wheel cannot be un-invented.
I think the world stands with an independent Scotland this time. There will be glasses of single malt raised all over the globe if Scotland decides to break free from the UK.
Scotland, if you're listening, remember that you were once loyal sons of the Church, and vote yes.
Och, aye, laddie! I'll beam* up a bonnie wee bottle of Single Malt to Scottie, if the YES side wins.
* Conditional upon Scottie fixing the Transporter in time.
I'll buy a bottle of genuine Scotch. Been a bourbon drinker but I have to toast them with a suitable whisky.
Yes, it's quite unacceptable what the Westminster parties in London have done to subvert the democratic process; the Treasury, the Bank of England, the BBC, the calling in of the RBS and Lloyds executives, the "Oops, a report somehow got leaked" scandals that show the Yes vote in a bad light, the old bitch Lizzy queen and her in-bred grandson chiming in being 'so concerned'. Hang those royal scavengers high. Treason you say? Bring it On!
Queenie don't care if they vote YES, she will still be Queen.
The Pols however (all three of the tossers) will be history (the ones who broke the union, and not in a good way)
Please vote Yes. If just for the sole reason you can demand Chuck's skirt back in public.
http://c0389161.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/dyn/str_strip/238619.f...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_that_have_gained_independ...
Guess how many asked to come back?
0
Wait till 2016, we'll show their asses who can spend money to subvert.
You must not leave the Matrix!
You will not be safe without us!
If we get a "YES" vote by friday mng over here it will be a complete fcuking shitshow. The Westminister elite will have no-one to blame but themselves. They have completely fcuked up in practically every concieveable fashion while conducting their campaign. What the fcuk were they thinking when agreeing to give 16 and 17 year old kids a vote. They will vote overwhelmingly for independence, and will mobilise massively to vote also, as has been evidenced by the huge rise in voter registry. They should never have agreed to a plain 50.1% majority vote...on a subject as important as this it should have been a min of 60% to change the status quo. They've been utterly cpmplacent about the result until the recent Sunday Times poll, when they suddenly all piled up to Scotland to plead with the voters. It's been pathetic to watch.
So old enough to pick up a gun and fight for your country but not old enough to vote?
A 16-year-old cannot join the Scottish/British armed forces. For what ever reason the idiots in London saw fit to entrust impulsive, and often non-employed mid-teens with power over those who have been working and producing for years. We allow 18-year-olds to vote but that's a bad idea, too. The brain does not finish growing until 21 although some might mature earlier. The one who came up with the fight/vote argument was Teddy K during Vietnam.
Wrong. According to the MOD website - "You need to be 16 years old to join the Army as a soldier, although you can apply earlier with your parents permission"
http://www.army.mod.uk/join/20193.aspx
MOD has historically drawn heavily from unemployed young Scots for the British military - usually shitty infantry jobs. The Scots like to fight. Pretty fearless bastards.
Here is a little tune about how Westerminister-MOD heavily recruits from Scotland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9udxbvHiqGw
The late and awesome Stuart Adamson on guitar at proably age 17. Sadly, he succumbed to that other Scottish curse - drink.
Thanks for the correction. I thought they had done away with that disastrous policy. The first order of business after this election is to void that obscene, bolshevik-ish habit of luring boys to be shot for nothing. I wonder how many Westminster policy makers ever served in a war zone.
At 16 in Scotland:
You are considered to have full legal capacity to enter into any form of agreement.
You will be sentenced as an adult.
You can drive
You can drink alcohol (though not in a pub)
You can get married and make babies
You can join the army and kill people
You can vote.
16 is the age of adulthood in Scotland.
Politians do more damage to society than wild killers. They have destroyed the school systems, financial systems, moral social fabric, foreign policy and now they want 16-year-olds to bear the brunt of their parasitic malfeasance.
More accurately ...
In the UK (including Scotland), the minimum driving age for a car or van is 17 while a moped or restricted-power motorcycle can be ridden at 16
It is illegal to sell, serve, offer or consume alcoholic beverages in public under the age of 18
Minors aged 16 or 17 may buy and consume wine, beer or cider on licensed premises when ordered with a meal.
You know there are bankers waiting on both sides of this. They are not out of the woods with a "yes." I predict some very petty "financial war" behavior.
No-one but no-one is going to be getting off Scot-Free from the bankers... Free Scotland or not...
Mr Black do you find it very "peculiar" that the Scots eat deep fried pizzas and mars bars?
Oh wait I will give you that one.
Ok, let me see if I got this. Scotland has the REAL resources and assets. Great Britain relies heavily on the "financialization" that took place globally since the early 1970's and has been sucking off of Scotland's real assets.
Here's another doozy that ain't brain surgery. Scotland votes for independence. Scotland tells GB to go fuck themselves. Scotland adopts its own currency (Bitcoin ding ding ding) and moves forward with real money that can't be obliterated by cocksucker politicians and bankers. This isn't complicated.
umm - if mr salmond was so sure about the Scottish economy he would ditch the Pound because surely the Scottish economy is dragged down by the sponging English and free of them Scottish Pound would soar....he isn't so keen because the reverse is true....