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Thanks To "Title 50", US Boots Are Already On The Ground
"When are actual boots-on-the-ground, not Presidential promise-breaking boots-on-the-ground?" ... when, as The Washington Post reports, those 'boots' are protected by 'legal alchemy' called Title 50... simply put, as Ignatius concludes, "U.S. boots are already on the ground, and more are coming. The question is whether Obama will decide to say so publicly, or remain in his preferred role as covert commander in chief."
Here's Obama from earlier:
- *OBAMA REITERATES HE WON'T COMMIT TO ANOTHER GROUND WAR IN IRAQ
- *OBAMA WON'T `REVIEW OR CONSIDER' COMBAT TROOP OPTION: EARNEST
- *EARNEST: NO COMBAT TROOPS IS A `STRATEGIC DECISION'
But...As The Washington Post reports,
Here’s a national-security riddle: How can President Obama provide limited military support on the ground to help “degrade and ultimately destroy” the Islamic State without formally violating his pledge not to send U.S. combat troops? The answer may lie in the legal alchemy known as “Title 50.”
Title 50 of the U.S. Code regulates the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency. An often-cited passage is Section 413(b), which deals with presidential approval and reporting of “covert actions.” In essence, this statute gives the president authority, with a proper “finding,” to send U.S. Special Operations forces on paramilitary operations, under the command of the CIA. The best-known example was the 2011 raid on Abbottabad, Pakistan, that killed Osama bin Laden.
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Iraqis and Syrians tell me that U.S. Special Operations forces will be decisive in training the Sunni fighters who can carry the battle into the streets of Mosul, Fallujah and Raqqah. Obama must decide whether this mission is better performed overtly or covertly - but the Americans who will be doing the training will be the same warriors, drawn from such units as the Army’s 5th Special Forces Group.
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The decisive issue is whether these U.S. special forces should be embedded with the Iraqi and Syrian forces they train — and accompany them into battle, where they can coordinate tactics and call in air support. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in congressional testimony Tuesday that “where I believe our advisers should accompany Iraqi troops on attacks against specific [Islamic State] targets, I’ll recommend that to the president.”
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We leave it to Ignatius to conclude...
Let’s be honest: U.S. boots are already on the ground, and more are coming. The question is whether Obama will decide to say so publicly, or remain in his preferred role as covert commander in chief.
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(Aside from those that still need to have wool pulled over their eyes,)
does it matter if it's done openly or not?
I personally think not.
"U.S. Special Operations forces will be decisive in training the Sunni fighters who can carry the battle into the streets of Mosul, Fallujah and Raqqah"
Has such a familiar ring to it...
"American boys shouldn't be doing the job that Asian boys should be doing" -LBJ
Ring a bell?
This is another Vietnam. A multi-administration war that ripped our nation apart, cost thousands of lives (ours, theirs, civilians) and yielded NOTHING at the end of it.
And we're going to do it all over again, this time in the middle east. Obama the Nobel Peace Prize President leading the way back into the meat grinder. But he's doing it "reluctantly", just as LBJ did, so obviously it's not his fault when it all turns to shit, just as everything he touches does.
Wait until you see the videos of civilians being killed when the "airstrikes only" war begins. It'll make the whole Israel/Gaza thing look like an average Tuesday in Detroit.
We certainly won't be seeing those videos on teevee. They'll be restricted to you tube and crack pot conspiracy theorist web sites. The MSM will dismiss them as forgeries while they flood us with pictures of children playing with our troops watching over them..... Smiling.... Oh there will be puppies too.
If you like your war, you can keep your war
Called "Sheep dipping"
Boris is make it two observation... First, amazing is Obama now use word "strategy" all time - maybe is not really understanding meaning of word? Second, is Amerikanski now to forget lesson of Vietnam? Maybe Amerika is now elect Mrs. Clinton and is get over with final demise of USSA already!
Listen Boris I agree but let me make myself clear here. This ISIL group is "THE BOMB"! Anyone who truly understands "THE STRATEGY" should support the ISIL.
Until ISIL says our only enemy is the government and not the american people themselves, its going to continue to be obvious who IS....ahem....IS...
...strategy...
Cue Princess Bride moment for Obama
"I do not think that that word means what you think it does."
Dr Engali, you ar WRONG!
It will be kittens and not puppies as they love posting pictures of kittens in that part of the world (along with beheading pictures).
They probably cry a lot for no apparent reason too.
"They're really just sad inside." Show them MASH re-runs and I have no doubt you can take down ISIS without firing a shot.
Or Casablanca. That one will really lay 'em low. "Here's looking at you ISIS kid."
All these rockets and missiles? Amateurs one and all!
has anyone got that youtube link to a CGI propaganda clip where they put in a puppy or kittenas requested by the prez?
...and ice cream, don't forget the ice cream cones for the children playing under the benevolent troops watchful eyes.
What a fraudulent photo op, kind of makes me think of FRN's, Greenspan, and that other ice cream sucking NAZI.
OBAMA REITERATES HE WON'T COMMIT
he ought to be committed.
Most of their shit is pretty much well in the open and they don't seem to care if we notice or not. Everything is done with a wink and a smile and just enough of a lie for them to feel sly.
We are fucked......but we likely always have been.
I'm guessing then that the bodies of said boot wearers will be covertly buried and the parents will be covertly erased and everyone that knows of these deaths will be covertly helicoptered into the earth.
Never heard of training accidents?
Unless 10k soldiers are there, it cannot be considered intervention.
But, yes, Obama will bow to Pentagon, otherwise he won't finish the 2nd term in office.
What Pentagon wants, Pentagon gets
What Saudis want, Saudis get
It's that simple
We all serve our masters. Its just that most of us have no idea who that is.
Agree
Civilization, by definition, is rule by elite.
Crowds choose leaders so crowds don't have to think hard.
We simply choose which elite will rule us.
We can choose bank lobby, or military complex, or pharma lobby, or a coalition of them, or kings.
But one will be, inevitably will be. That's what crowds want.
What Lola wants, Lola gets...!
Damn Yankees!
http://youtu.be/6kjQmgm0r4g
Closing in on about 3000 now, by my count, if you start with the ~500 that were sent in to protect our embassy in Baghdad a couple months ago.
The real count is likely higher but the trend is unmistakable. I'm noticing another 500 here, another 1000 there with each passing TV speech.... pretty soon it adds up to real troop count, to coin a phrase.
Soldiers needed on the ground to tell fighter jets what to strike, to avoid hitting people going to wedding and kids.
Obama is using drones without much ground coordination which is an absolute disaster. Innocent people have died.
On that point about "absolute disaster" we agree. Half-in, half-out is a recipe to get twice as many people killed, mostly civilians. US Ground troops (special ops) will be there to help identify and paint targets but mistakes will still be made.
I think Obama's plan is exactly what he said- degrade and destroy. With him only working around the edges of "degrade" with air strikes, massaging media coverage of the whole charade to suppress coverage of any "oops, we just took out another wedding party" mistakes that arise, and leaving the rest of the quagmire to the next administration.
All heads of state who have spoken about this make no bones about this endeavor being "long term, years to accomplish" so expectations have already been set. Echoes of GWB's "as long as it takes" comment come rushing back to memory.
Bullish Yellow Ribbons!
Oh, and coffin flags...
"What Pentagon wants, Pentagon gets"
Some groups, maybe. But there's a very long list of recently dismissed generals, admirals, colonels, and Navy captains that might disagree.
Kleenex another word for = tissue
Obama another word for = lie
Listen.
"QUEEF" is another word for expulsion of air from a vagina during sexual intercourse.
"America" is another word for "GREAT SATAN".
The banks will do whatever they need to do, to get the govt to do whatever it needs to do, to attempt WWIII, while standing behind the Support Our Troops meme. At some point, enough people will say no, and it will end.
The people already said no, when they wanted to go into Syria. So, naturally, this new, even scarier boggeyman appears, and beheads a couple American journalists and posts the videos on the Internet. All they will do once the people get fed up and say no is keep upping the ante, little by little. If enough aren't on board with this new war before too much longer, I'm sure we will see some kind of 'incident' on US soil to rally the steeple against whoever the new bad guy is. Americans are stupid. Thousands did every day from everything from car accidents to accidental drownings, but if some hajji kills half a dozen kids at a mall or something, most will forget all reason, forget that they are far more likely to die from the things I mention above, and demand the govt 'do something' , and there we go, moar war.
Listen. Congratulations, you are a very typical "AMERICAN".
When the "SHEEP" said "NO" to your American TARP bank support, what happened?
It was shoved down your fucking throat with extreme prejudice.
But seriously, "IT" will end, just not the way you think it will.
Another 100,000 in a "Special Forces" ops to seek and destroy ISIS (and Assad) deep inside Syria. No congressional approval required. Qatar and Israel thank you for your sacrifice.
No, no, no, we are going to arm local "moderate" goat farmers with slingshots and sharpened sticks so they may successfully repel murderous religious extremists that we previously armed with state of the art weaponry.
This will be fun to watch.
Must stop "Illegal sale of oil" (or anyone selling or planning to sell oil outside of the control of the US PetroDollar) at any cost. Hell why don't we just openly admit it, bomb the oil tankers and pipeline construction and be done with it.
We don't want to stop the flow. We just want to control the flow.
As long as oil is sold in dollars, "we" can get our cut.
Doesn't matter where or to whom.
All we have to do is print more FRN's
I love how that was a defense wrt/ Iraq... "but we didnt actually take that oil"
yes, BUT.... the whole operation was to guarantee its sale in DOLLARS...
The buyers are the real terrorists funding ISIS. We could bomb them but then we would be bombing the EU.
RIP - this nation...
Too many sandtraps. Obama likes open fairways with no borders ;-)
Obama tried to get in a round at Augusta National Golf Club and was told that there was a public course across the road and down about the distance of a 9 iron. Obama said "look here I'm Barak Obama the president of the United States" The gentleman said, "I'm so sorry, in that case the public course is about a 3 wood"
lol
Not to mention the contractors that trained ISIS.
The boys of ISIS got their training in Iraq and their own culture. Some of the men of ISIS got guns from DC via Turkey and Benghazi.
Just to set the record straight.
I'd say it's worth a guess that some of the SISI thugs got some training by the U.S. in Jordan.
Don't forget Turkey. You know, our "ally" and NATO member Turkey.
After watching how those retarded drones followed orders and cheered for zero today like he was the second coming of Christ, I don't really give a fuck where he sends them any more as long as it's not against us. I no longer have any faith in them to ever do the right thing. Let them follow him to their grave.
The Idolatry is somehow reminiscent of the mental pictures formed with Big Brother and Mr Meat Tenderizer
Listen. Let me make myself clear. Just wait till you Americans are "UNDER" the "LEADERSHIP" of the great and powerful woman, ladies and gentelmen let me introduce to you your "NEW" president, MRS HILLBILLERY CLINTON! {American crowd roars}.
Well at least by then most of your American states will have medical "MARIJANE" in place so 'don't you worry man, cuz everylil thing is goin be alright, man'.
"TOAST"!
Ron Paul out raised him, and every other candidate , hell, all the other republican candidates combined, in contributions in the last election, don't forget that. I don't know a single person of the people I know in the military who voted for him, but I do know several who voted for Johnson or wrote in Ron Paul. This was a 'command appearance' for them. I'm sure at a base as big as macdill there are bound to be a decent number of Obama fans to stand right behind him and look enthralled, but I assure you, most were not there because they wanted to be, they were made to go. And you don't wanna be the one soldier standing there rolling your eyes and not clapping for your commander in chief.
It was a sickening display, especially knowing he's going to send them off to that African hell hole to "fight Ebola". It was a much different reception than what I witnessed at West Point.
Ya I hear ya. I saw it too. But, given everything that's going on, there was no way that would happen without cheering, admiring faces behind him. You and I may both know that these are manufactured crises, but most people aren't aware of that, so this is for them. Can't have an unhappy looking military behind him when they are getting sent back into the pointless meat grinder of Iraq, and the viral meat grinder of west Africa. Just wouldn't do. You seem to be forgetting that 40% of the country still approves of him, the % of military is probably lower, but even still, you get a large enough group, you can get enough people to stand behind and admire pretty much any politician. Most of them are no better informed than the average idiot. And, as George carlin said, picture how dumb the average person is, then think to yourself- half the population is even dumber than that.
Amen brother....tragic!
Very odd appearnce at graduation in May. I was there and it was pretty subdued when he spoke. I think the problem was the relatives did not want to make a scene at an event that was about the Cadets and not the family members nor about Obamao as a person rather than as the President.
I would love to see at least one highly decorated NCO with 20+ years under his belt and at the end of his career just smirk and roll his eyes when standing behind the Wanker-In-Chief. Obummer and his minions could do nothing to besmirch a guy like that and they would have a hard time to court martial the soldier before his service ends.
SoI'll bet that they vett the troops who stand behind Obummer to those men (and women) who are poor and need to continue in the military.
How much longer until our military says "Enough!"
If, probably just after they realize they are too spent to keep going anyway.
Many more will need to die first. Ebola is a bigger threat than ISIS. The US war against ISIS will be fought from long range.
wait, they're almost done replacing all the top leadership with yes men. you think our military is going to save us??? (if you thiink that, you probably have 911 on speed dial, too)
I am surprised by how surprised many of those around are acting. You cannot believe ANYTHING coming from the government.
But was fun watching Kerry get his dick handed to him this afternoon. The administration wants to start a kind of sorta war. But the majority member of the committee says he doesn't feel the admin is serious. How insulting is that.
The black unit did torture more than just terrorists. I didn't misquote that. ie "special training". more than just your average pushups for special forces.
Shouldn't they be arming the rebels against Goldman Sachs?
All roads lead to the CIA, and to Israel further on.
An American, not US subject.
The American sheeple have the biggest surprise coming their way. They are bankrupt, but do not know it. They are controlled by a police-state, but do not know it. The country under their feet has been sold to foreign powers, but they do not know it. Their government is owned and controlled by Zionist loyalists, but they do not know it. They are slaves to the Rothschild banksters, but do not know it. And the evangelical Christian backed Zionist oriented neo-cons are preparing the country for one party rule and dictatorship, but they do not know it. I wish that I did not know it.
You had me at bankrupt. Fucking amazing how clueless the sheeple are.
Title 50???...
Who the fuck cares about Title 50 when we've violated every international sovereign charter the U.S. Government has signed up to since WWII!!!...
We don't need no stinken Title(s)!
The Patriot Act(s) and NDAA proved that Congress violated their oath of office by subverting that thing called the rule of law they swore an oath to protect and defend without formal procedure to alter and ratify existing law(s) on the books in that "thing"...
Hang every single one of these motherfuckers and start over before it's too late!
Clock is ticking boyz and girlz.
Better pull a Scotland and Spain before the guys in the front office get us all killed!!!!
But yoou see, the Constitution is "Living and Breathing," so it means any fucking thing they want it to mean at any fucking time. Or it's called "democracy." Then their really is no Constitution, just whatever the "people" want at any given time, or a "Representative Republic" where the "representatives of the people" of get to decide whatever it is they want to do. No one ever calls our government a constituional republic anymore. It's on purpose. They have thrown out the constitution because it is too constraining to their designs and lust for power.
So there now is no "rule of law." Only the arbitrary of men dominated by special interests. The common man be damned.
"that killed Osama bin Laden."
Thanks for the best laugh today
FB you beat me by many hours. I'm still rolling around in near uncontrollable laughter after reading that!
Oh wait!!! Wikipedia says it is so, so it must be true! Not even a hint that so many well know it's all bullshit.
His strategies will never make sense because he is not forthcoming with his objectives.
Not his stratagies or objectives...he is a meat puppet...period.
Funny.....When the CIA and State Department provide troops, equipment and training in a foriegn country, NATO turns a blind eye and calls it hemanitarian relief. If Russia tried the same, it would be announced as naked agression against a soverign country. Amazing how few people bother to sift through the media rhetoric and draw their own conclusions, choosing instead to be spoon fed their reality.
Keep the air freshener in the back bunker America, your turn is coming.
I thought it was illegal to train terrorists.
Not when you call them "freedom fighters".
"2015 belong to ISIL... I'm not kidding here."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMBCangf1U
The President Who after his first election joined with CAIR to keep States from refusing Sharial Law, Who then set up a (501c4) OFA and then persecuted others who tried. Who has raised more funds by not paying objective attention to government. A man that is flooding the country with poor illegal immigrants while telling the black community he's for their CITIZEN children 28% unemployed.
A President that has, in real terms, made offshore investing and international stocks serve him and the rich! A President that has killed any real heavy industry creation of jobs in America with his rules and constantly changing regulations. A president that does Qatar and Saudi business even though they spawned Isis. A president who is now handing a country SYRIA to the Qatar Saudi connection and destroy 35% of the non-Sunni population. A president that will use EPA to jack heating and electric bill up 50-100% over the next three years! Yea this is the guy!
By the way Boehner an idiot!
Sunday 8pm EST http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americas2ndrevolution/2014/09/22/the-syrian-war-scam
Pepe's got his middle finger on the pulse of America...
Obama's 'stupid stuff' turned upside down
By Pepe Escobar
http://bit.ly/1s8aApC
0baMao's "al queda is on the run" and "iSiS is junior varsity" bullshit is running head on into reality-and it's all on his hands because he fomented the uprisings that have de-stabilized the ME.
Da chickens is comin' home to roost!
Well, those boots have volunteered, so until that stops, HAVE FUN! This criminal bullshit is what YOU signed up for, morons...