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The Chart Alibaba's Underwriters Would Prefer You Didn't See
While the excitement is palpable on business TV, tomorrow's unleashing of Alibaba on US publicly traded markets could be less than exuberant. Judging by the performance of the last five largest US IPOs, Bloomberg notes that on average they fell 17% in the first year. Still we are sure, those who buy at the open tomorrow will be smart enough to know when to get out (hint: right before everyone else).
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That's cute, but Alibaba is not any of those fecal stains of corporate America.
No, they're a fecal stain of corporate China.
China is developing it's own computer hardware and internet service. http://www.lemote.com/en/products/cpu/2010/0310/113.html The loongson CPU running a Kylin operating system. Alibaba will always just be a western internets .com where you can buy heavily subsidized goods that destroy American manufacturing.
Ha - it looks like a middle finger!
"destroy American manufacturing"
Hate to tell you, Americans destroyed American Manufacturing. Chryslers been polluting the product pool with it's garbage for the past 30 years now. Any idea that it's the Chinese fault are delusions to convince you of the opposite of the truth, which is that your own government sold you out. If the US populace wanted good goods rather than cheap goods, they would have them.
Alibaba does one thing, it provides for the world that which the US refused to produce.
Rookout berow, 900Mhz CPU!!!
pump and dump on a large scale, no one believes that BARCLAY's, GS, MS, et al would ever do that so they blindly buy.
can someone smarter then me explain ALBCF.pk. why was it pulled and the 6.7b market cap then
Isn't that the intention of an IPO? The underwriter dumps the overvalued stock onto suckers driving down the price?
pump and dump on a large scale, no one believes that BARCLAY's, GS, MS, et al would ever do that so they blindly buy.
can someone smarter then me explain ALBCF.pk. why was it pulled and the 6.7b market cap then
Main stream media finally figured out what we have been thinking for years
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/instead-qe-fed-could-given-094500275.html
Let us know when MSM figures out that the Fed has taken $56K + fees and interest FROM each of US and KEPT it for THEMSELVES (banks).
Translation: I bought some of these shares and want to party like it's 1999.
why do you think they chose to list in America if China is so "clean and Honest"?
Alibaba shares will only be available in lots of 5000 shares and will have a two to three week lead time.
Be sure to use a gold supplier for your shares to avoid any counterfeit shares.
You may click here and chat with "Tina" if you have any questions, or are just bored and lonely. (Tina is really a guy, but on the internet that doesn't really matter)
pods
There were no IPOs 2001-2006. Or in 2011 for that matter.
Yeah... owning Facebook has been horrible! Who wants to double their money? People in 2012 should have bought gold!
I guess we won't know the cost to your soul until much later.
No, people in 2001 should have bought gold.
Facebook has been a suprisingly good stock, but everyone in my circle is adblocking and/or closing their accounts.
since the introdution of facebook, i have asked (quite seriously) over 250 people how many times they clicked on a facebook ad, 250 people resonded never. Why would any company piss away money on facebook ad's is beyond me
Yeah I don't know anyone who has ever clicked. Based on my use of FB and my friends, I feel FB is cooking their books, because I don't know a single person clicking ads or in any way generating revenue. In fact, it is the opposite, we are using all their bandwidth, storage, etc. The only way for them to make money is to sell profiles to companies because it's sure not from ads. Half my friends use fake profiles, fake names, etc. From an investment standpoint, it is hard to know what you have with FB. I'd short it if the market were at all normal. The social media sites are trendy and this one will pass. The guy above is patting his back for doubling his money on FB. Cool. But I remember 1999 very well. People were doing the same thing over pets.com and jerry's deil...this is the tech/ipo bubble part 2. Luckily I am older and can see it clearly this time.
Those slimy faggots get paid by 'impressions'. That is, it just has to be shown on your screen. The actual 'click' and any subsequent conversion is also tracked by those cum guzzlers.
You forget that their biggest customer is probably government spy agencies (not just ours).
I've clicked on my phone by accident, while scrolling through with my thumb.
what is the P/E and revenue stream of Facebook right now?
fb p/e = 100
i.e. the new normal
the kids, ie. anyone under 20, couldn't care less about FB.
The question is DID YOU SELL IT ? If not shut the f up.
I bet China arrests this guy within 3 years and takes over this company....
It is interesting that the listing is in New York.
Obviously the underwriters will bail on Day One and their profits will be beyond imagination.
I still can't get out of my head "how has any of the last thirty years benefitted Banking?" They all look like bubbles instead of recovery to me..."all created to finance a huge Regime of Debt and taxes."
I think to believe Wall Street is trying to finance anything different this go around is pure folly and delusion.
The oddity that the biggest energy boom in world history has a "missing transfer mechanism" (meaning something other than growth in "financialization") really does stand out to me.
Who's actually doing any work here?
The military seems about it actually...
It's no longer about what a company can really earn, but how you can manipulate the hoopla to fill up your pockets.
That actually might be the US making that move...
Dow 20,000
NasCrap 6,000
S&Piss 4,000
Gold - $500
Silver - 0.
Send me all that worthless silver. Heck, I'll even pay $.01 an ounce just to sweeten the deal for you. Tell everyone you know. Post it on FB too.
Alibaba & the 40 thieves. This may just end the same way, thieves running with the cash while 99.9% are left holding the empty bag.
Your chart reminds me of statistics as in -- there are lies, there are damned lies and then there's statistics.
Wow, just had to point out that China's computer hardware is about a decade behind Intel's....DDR2? 900 mHZ?? LOL
And don't think that they wont put the same backdoors in their hardware that the NSA puts in ours.
Think?......
HAHA could I tell you stories!!!!!
Personal experience is they WILL and the DO ... and if you live there, you can rest ashured they will PHYSICALLY enter your place of residence to look!! forget the hardware
Yeah but it will like those AMD backdoors, they are slower and never work quite as well... :D
calling all bagholders!!!!!! get your BABA now!!!
JACK MA IS AN ALIEN AND CHINA WILL MANIPULATE THE BOOKS...... GOOOD LUCK
Who gives a crap about the first year of the IPO. FB opened at @$39 and is now at @$80. V opened just below $60 and it is now @$220. Even GM is right where it opened and nobody thought it would ever be any good.
I don't know. Anyone here try and do business with Alibaba?
We spent months trying to find parts suppliers over there. Most were a no go.
We found disinterest, combined with a lack of language skills to be a major barrier to entry.
We did find one great supplier on Alibaba, but they share our values, such as fast response times, and answering questions completely.
SH