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"We Are About To Arm Some Rebels And Drone Some More Folks" - Obama Statement On Passage Of Syrian Strategy
Moments ago, the Senate passed a $1 trillion government-funding bill that according to the Hill also gave the president new authority to battle the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The legislation, which has now been approved by both chambers of Congress, now heads to the White House for Obama?s signature. While the stopgap bill will prevent a government shutdown on Oct. 1, the vote will be remembered for a controversial provision that allows Obama to start a new training program for rebel fighters in Syria. In other words, not only will Obama arm some folks, he will also drone some other folks, the same folks he was arming a year ago.
Live statement below:
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Incidentally, those still confused where ISIS got their weapons from, here is the NYT with the explanation, so let's arm ISIS just a little more...
ISIS has stolen hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of weapons and equipment from Iraqi and Syrian military installations. It has also intercepted supplies en route to Syrian rebel groups from foreign governments. Conflict Armament Research, a private firm that investigates arms trafficking, has tracked small arms and rockets used by ISIS that appear to have been provided to other combatants by Saudi Arabia and the United States.
Among the weapons that Conflict Armament Research examined were M16 and M4 rifles stamped “Property of U.S. Govt.” Such weapons are also in the hands of irregular Shiite forces in Iraq, where the United States provided hundreds of thousands of small arms to supportive forces during its long occupation.
Conflict Armament Research found M79 antitank rockets from the former Yugoslavia that were identical to M79 rockets provided by Saudi Arabia to rebels in Syria.
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Arm some, drone some - US foreign policy in a nutshell.
Give weapons to ISIS, call them as dangerous as the Taliban, create a false flag so DHS can deploy their new toys against the citizenry and declare victory after anyone opposed to the policy has been tortured, captured or killed inside the US or overseas.
Any brown people living near an oil well need to move.....NOW!
Sounds like good OlBombYa is gunning for a record second Nobel Peace Prize.
Are those folks going to be tortured first or will those folks just be droned directly?
all you Bachman haters - she voted NO
"No matter who we give our arms to, they inevitably end up being used against us," said Representative Rick Nolan of Minnesota, who is voting against the amendment.
Conservative Republicans also came out in strong opposition to the Syria amendment. Some of the tea-party Republicans voting against the Syria amendment were: Justin Amash of Michigan, Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, Jim Bridenstine of Oklahoma, Paul Broun of Georgia, Stephen Fincher of Tennessee, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Tim Huelskamp of Kansas, Jim Jordan of Ohio, Raúl R. Labrador of Idaho, Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina, Matt Salmon of Arizona, Steve Stockman of Texas, Marlin Stutzman of Indiana, Randy Weber of Texas, and Ted Yoho of Florida.
Every one of those Republicans also voted against the CR.
Just as that is real money trading on Wall Street so it is with Washington too. "That's a cool one trillion."
That's not for dealing with "ISIS."
Bachmann likes the NSA spying.
And Corndogs !
http://www.thefrisky.com/2011-08-15/the-corndog-bitten-round-the-world-telegraph-publishes-photo-of-michele/
Hope and Chnage. And the Republicans go along with this and Obacare and open borders.
Well, y'gotta admit "We droned some folks" sounds a whole lot more civilized than "We tortured some folks." Torturing folks is, after all, far less morally defensible than simply killing them outright. Hope and change.
droning is infinitely cleaner and
more "civilized" than beheadings
and be sure that the unusual exotic drug
combination used for lethal injection
is not "cruel and unusual punishment"
The Senate; the United States Senate. Un-believable. I never thought I'd live to see such a thing. Do they actually believe any of this utterly transparent claptrap about "Syrian Rebels"; there aren't any syrian rebels for Christs' sake; Syria is being invaded. Everyone who lives there says the same thing; rebels? what rebels? " They had long beards, and spoke a strange kind of Arabic, we found it hard to understand them". Just your average Syrian neighbors down the street folks, who don't like the government. Who believes this shit ?
So, our over arching strategy is to avoid doing something stupid...,
by killing them all and letting god sort them out.
It's not funny ! I'm pissed off. We're playing the role of Nazi Germany in Europe in 1939, and that's not a damn bit funny.
Yo folks, wanna see me blow another raspberry? :p
I'd give it a chance of 110%, that this will end well
The Washington cabal is funding and bombing the same rebels. The Washington cabal includes the Washington media. You're the fool they think they fool. Boehner, Pelosi, Reid and McConnnell are all in the cabal. You're their mark.
Total complete bedlam & Criminality out in the open for all the World to see by these Pure Evil Psycopaths. The Chilling aspect is they have convinced themselves that NO ONE at this point in time can stop them. Megalomanics each & every one of them all.
Nothing short of large scale tax revolt or armed rebellion will stop them.
There are not enough people with enough balls to do this.
So they spend us into the grave a TRILLION at a time.
We are being openly mocked, yet the sheep chew on.
Fucked.
Now Putin can send as much aid to Assad as he wants to - because Assad needs to fight ISIS too!
Hundreds of Syrian 'rebels' surrendering to Syrian army to fight American invaders:
http://www.syrianperspective.com/2014/09/hundreds-surrendering-to-syrian...
For the record those dudes aren't anti-American. They would be Pro-Syrian or anti-Globalist.
Half the battle is recognizing your enemy. The other half is determining whether or not you work for him.
For all the idiots who say - well Putin is not a good guy. He is the guy standing up to evil psychopaths.
I wish he'd hurry up. Russian Shock and Awe and wipe it all up in two weeks; while the Washington geniuses go, duuuh?
THE US TRADITION IN THE "FIGHT FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY".
Remember? It keeps going on...
http://rtd.rt.com/films/vietnam-my-orange-pain/#part-1
If we don´t arm them, there is no threat... so if don´t arm them first, the whole operation would not have an enemy....
If you don´t have a hole on the tee... why hit the ball in the first place... simple strategy
Pretty easy to see that this particular action has little to do with ISIL and has more to do with getting rid of Assad.
So, our plan is to get members of the FSA into Saudi and train them and send them off to war with new weapons..... So, we're supposed to believe that they'll turn them on their allies instead of turning them on Assad???
You can't even make this shit up.... everybody votes "yes".... wow.
It's sickening; absolutely sickening. And everyone on the planet who bothers to read the real reports from the experts and historians on these Moslem Brotherhood lunatics knows that they're tools of the USA, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar; and our Congress votes to give them serious weapons money; arming psychopathic idiots to destroy a peaceful country; by which I mean Syria, of course. What in the hell is wrong with these Congress idiots.
God damned CONgress critters on both sides voted for this abomination.
Proof that the left/right political machine is a complete distraction and in the pockets of the banks and M.I.C.
Obama is insane. Congress is being bribed by the NWO. Resolution doesn't come from wars in the age of technology.
No, he's not insane. You don't understand; the strategic aim is to overthrow the Syrian Government of Assad; because he's not a team player. He doesn't follow orders well.
David Goldman, who writes under the name Spengler, has dared say Obama is Mad.
Whom the Gods would destroy , they first make mad. (Longfellow, in the mouth of Prometheus in the poem "Masque of Pandora".
He may be. Don't expect dopers to take the pressure when it is overwhelming.
PsyOp, Fasle Narratives & Propaganda Scripts at their finest in terms of "Double Speak."
A "Peaceful Democracy" - A serviceable Puppet State. See also "Democratic Transition."
"Illegitimate" - Against NATO's wishes.
"Looking Forward" - Allowing Criminals to walk free.
Who will arm the future American rebels and freedom fighters?
Certainly not some face lifted old ha* or an eye-liner wearing fa*
I have just spent 30 minutes looking for this bill to find out who voted which way.
In those 30 minutes, I cannot find the name, number, or votes pertaining to it.
Anyone?
ok, got it.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm...
Cruz and Paul vote no
House Vote
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2014/h509
So, you on the Left, is this still a "HUMANITARIAN EFFORT"?
The us politic is a complete mess. There seems to be no competent
Person around.
Moderate rebels? What's that? Fight only 4-6 hours daily, do a few rounds of golf and then tutor school kids and deliver senior meals?....
Moderate rebels aka 'freedom fighters', only kill other brown skinned folks.
A Merc by any other name...
C'mon--git with the PROGRAM-->this is the Islamic State of IraQ and the Levant.
JFC!!!!
- Ned
{ISIL, aka Friends of McCain and Gramnesty}
Did anybody manage to listen and simultaneously hold the "bile down" to Ron Paul's "surgeon son" pontificate about the crisis in our government?... That while we should realistically end up bombing ISIS/ISIL a.k.a. the Assad government (cause Israel told me to) after 200,000 dead men, women and children after 3 years courtesy of U.S. "proxies" the President does not authorize war -Congress does!...
If Ron Paul has any vestige of moral decency left in him he will publically call his son out for what he is -a partisan politician looking for Republican votes come November!
Fucking slime The lot of them!
Bomb them? If you stopped paying them they'd all go home again. they were hired by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the CIA. The purpose; to provide an excuse for military action inside Syria; once again fucking with russian interests directly. Where are the men from the grassy knoll when you need them?
If you stopped paying them they'd all go home again.
Ditto SAT
What are we paying them "in" USD???... Either they are heroin addicts or they are getting paid in oil, Au or Ag or perhaps all four!
Can't be U.S. Grade A "$h!t" anymore?!!!...
Only American GI's, sailors, marines and airmen are stupid enough to enter into that currency contract!
Only thing our government can agree on is monitor citizens and bomb the shit out of anything that moves.
We should send our congress to syria to advise them on democracy and the economy.
Hopefully they would not be mistreated.
Whatever happened to, "no strategy".
This is beyond strategy, this...is.....THUNDERDOME!
That gay, huh?
A cool TRILLION buys a lot of strategy.....
Motherfuckers,
::builds guillotine::
No strategy was fucking brilliant compared to this clusterfuck. If he'd just play golf and stop pretending to understand what the fuck is going on; it would be so much quieter.
His strategy will always appear to be a flustercluck because his objective is to get Assad. I don't think he really gives a fat slab of bacon about SISI.
Yes, yes, of course; you're right. This is very depressing; Syria was a completely secular country where Christians and Jews could worship anyway they wanted and there was no discrimination of any kind; now the Christian nuns are being held as human shields in Homs by the liver eaters. thanks to us !!
Let's just drone the fuck out of people.
["provision that allows Obama to start a new training program for rebel fighters in Syria'}
So now al Qaeda in Syria have become "rebel fighters"
and "other combatants"....????????????
not surprising, congress, and the un sat back while nato participated, and o'bama funded and armed al qaeda for Lybian regime change, funded, and armed the muslim-brotherhood for regime change in Egypt, funded, and arm neo-nazi's in ukraine coup with nato's participation, funded,and armed isis to assist for a regime change in Syria.
these politicians are bought, or dumb as rocks, or both, the first american bomb dropped in Syria, the ww111 thats been going on behind close doors, is going to turn into out in the open, in your face slaughter of humans.
americas going to be forced into using nuclear weapons, or put 100's of thousands of troops on the ground in 4-5 different countries, including americas borders, with little to no coalition.
I wish Russia would take this seriously, send real troops and equipment there and just end it. these fuck wits are being fought into the ground by the Syrian Army, which isn't all that great, but they are organized. The russian special forces could clean them out of Syria in a about a week. Long before we firgured out any kind of response; as if there was one.
Why the quotation marks around something he didn't actually say? This is Obama, so don't tell me the sarcasm should be obvious.
As usual.
The simple American warfare technology.
And as ususal the newly armed ones will again become rebels and then we again bomb them.
Looks like this eternal cycle is designed to keep defence industry & wall street going up & up and so the US economy.
Chimp brain.
Some old guy has also said "Those who live by the sword...." well, why do we care about the old fashioned medieval guys buried now.
USA is the biggest terrorist state which creates & aids terrorism all over the world using CIA.
USA should be sanctioned by all the nations of the earth , boycotted to not to have any trade relations , the US dollar should be banned.
Here we go again: Kerry accuses Syria of chlorine gas attacks!
http://rt.com/news/188880-us-syria-chlorine-attacks/
Why have I never heard any discussion
about Israeli stockpiles of Sarin and Tabun??
(--they don't have any??--ROFLMAO)