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Anarchy In Washington: Is Anybody In Charge?

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Submitted by Justin Raimondo via Antiwar.com,

The President pledges "no combat troops" in Iraq.

The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, says he may recommend combat ground troops in the battle against ISIS.

The President, in a speech, reiterates "no ground troops," and "no combat troops."

While Hillary Clinton, Obama’s presumptive heir, waits in the wings as her scheme to arm the Syrian rebels is implemented and the fuse is lit on the Levantine tinderbox. It isn’t a very long fuse….

So what is going on with the US government, and especially over at the Pentagon? Are they directly challenging the President – who is then acting to quickly quash them? Sure looks like it.

Amid reports of a titanic battle within the Obama administration, the conflicting messages being put out there by various wings of the national security establishment remind us of the Empire’s sheer size and the scale of the bureaucracy: it is large enough to constitute what are, in effect, competing governments – a condition statists of every variety always told us was unworkable.

In short, when it comes to the making of American foreign policy what we have in Washington is what appears to be the functional definition of anarchy! And the libertarians haven’t even taken over yet.

The mess that is the Obama plan for defeating ISIS perfectly illustrates the central dictum of what I call "libertarian realism" – a theory of international relations that attributes foreign policy decision-making to primarily domestic political pressures, i.e. to the chief motivation of politicians everywhere, which is to maintain and expand their own power and their own term in office. The result is that US policy – or, indeed, the foreign policy of any nation – has little to do with facts on the ground, or how to utilize them to serve legitimate national interests. Instead, it’s all about how to appease the various domestic pressure groups with a stake in the matter.

This is why war propaganda is such a vital component of modern warfare, arguably the most important weapon in any country’s arsenal. That’s because the real target is domestic public opinion, with the targeted cities of the enemy only a secondary consideration.

Left with the Iraqi mess he inherited from the Bush administration, President Obama had few viable options. Constrained by his own campaign promises and public opposition to any further fighting in Iraq, he is nevertheless confronted with the blowback – and his "plan" reflects the only possible means to deal with it within the theoretical framework of libertarian realism. The public opposes troops on the ground – and so the President sticks that in his "plan." The political elites want to aid the Syrian rebels, so he sticks that in there, too. A general who knows better tells the country the truth: it will take ground troops to accomplish the mission. Yet the mission being accomplished is beside the point – because the real mission is winning the hearts and minds of the American people. That’s the battlefield this President – and every President – must fight on.

The Sunni-Shia civil war we encouraged throughout the region for our own purposes has now given birth to the monstrous ISIS, the Frankenstein creature that crawled out of the chaos we created. Like those scary mutations depicted in post-nuclear war movies, all scales and fangs, ISIS gibbers and glories in its monstrousness, doing for the War Party what Bill Kristol and his fellow neocons could never have pulled off by their own efforts. All it took was a few Youtube videos and the social media savvy of the ISIS public relations department.

Funny how that worked out, eh?

 

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Fri, 09/19/2014 - 13:58 | 5235016 _ConanTheLibert...
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FUCK YOU BARRY !

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:01 | 5235030 nope-1004
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The commander in chief is in charge, the muslim guy from Kenya.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:01 | 5235037 onewayticket2
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he'll do or say whatever he needs to do.....until the moment the polls close in November.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:05 | 5235053 Seasmoke
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I just need a few more weeks and then I can help you. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:09 | 5235077 Overfed
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The writer of this article seems to be implying that anarchy is a bad thing.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:11 | 5235086 NoDebt
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Anarchy is only fun in the beginning.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:14 | 5235094 Statetheist
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With the right people, anarchy is always fun.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:17 | 5235114 Spastica Rex
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Right - freedom of association is the shit.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:28 | 5235169 LFMayor
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Except they're wanting to section-8 some, ahem, "diversification" into your neighborhood.  It's Our Strength, after all.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:41 | 5235206 Spastica Rex
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Oh, if you only knew what kind of neighbourhood I live in. Poor, non-white, non-English-speaking, some of them in veils, all of them crowding around, filling up the discount grocery store.

Oh, wait: I'm poor!

Never mind.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:30 | 5235463 Son of Loki
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Gets more ridiculous every day. Now, as we see hundreds of heavily armed soldiers landing in Eye-Rack we hear Barry saying again and again those armed troops on the ground are not troops on the ground. The press secretary squirming as he tries to explain away those troops on the ground are not really troops on the ground. They crack me up.

 

And yellow is not yellow … and blue is not really blue…. And so on. I guess if he says it enough times the ‘ceptional sheeples will believe him … because after all, they’re equipped with ‘ceptionally low IQs.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:42 | 5235526 BellyBrain
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No, this is bureaucracy where the real controllers aren't visible to those that are subject to the bureau.

 

Anarchy means NO MASTERS, NO RULERS.  That would be preferable to the bureaucratic-corporate-governmental slavery system that we live with...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 20:42 | 5236490 MalteseFalcon
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After the election the Prez and the Pentagon will agree.

See if you can guess who changes their mind.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:18 | 5235117 Dr. Engali
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Anarchy is all fun and games until somebody drops their brand new iCrap 6:

 

 

http://youtu.be/RjaxxC2bys0

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 18:13 | 5236050 Moustache Rides
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I almost laughed myself to death after watching that.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:22 | 5235139 y3maxx
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an American President, a CIA Jihadist and a Wall Street Jew Banker walk into a Saudi Arabian Steam Bath...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:30 | 5235184 nope-1004
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The American president drops his towel and says:

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:36 | 5235216 Badabing
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I bet you never seen a black man with a clit

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:38 | 5235219 Chupacabra-322
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And Says:

SUCK IT!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:35 | 5235203 ThroxxOfVron
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"With the right people, anarchy is always fun."

So right that it had to be said twice.

It would make a great bumper sticker...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:16 | 5235106 Overfed
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I don't equate anarchy with chaos.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:20 | 5235127 Spastica Rex
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Really? That Newspeak is at least a hundred years old. Off to room 101.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:22 | 5235134 Statetheist
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NO NOT THE RATS ANYTHING BUT RATS

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:43 | 5235248 Big Corked Boots
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Do it to Julia!

 

* reading is hard

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:49 | 5235269 Spastica Rex
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A little more progress and you'll see that anarchy is chaos.

Ignorance is strength.

War is peace.

Democracy is tyranny.

Scratch the last one, this is Zero Hedge.

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:23 | 5235144 electropeasant
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I do though with a different logic: chaos is the sum of all orders, lifted from Hakim Bey.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:14 | 5235093 max2205
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If you like your Govt, you can keep your Govt.......

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:30 | 5235178 stacking12321
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agreed - the writer is clueless as to what anarchy means.

anarchy is merely the absence of government.

"when it comes to the making of American foreign policy what we have in Washington is what appears to be the functional definition of anarchy!"

this is completely false. if there were anarchy, there would be no "foreign policy", no sending troops to 100 countries around the world, no bombing iraq or syria or lybia or yemen or pakistan, etc.

the sad thing is, this writer for "anti-war.com" doesn't even understand that true anarchy would support his anti-war goal.

with anarchy, no doubt people will contribute to a common defence, but they aren't going to go into generational debt sevitude to bomb countries halfway around the world that they have no interest in.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:55 | 5235589 RockyRacoon
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Hyperbole at it's finest -- yep.  Right here on ZH, right on time, with the right crowd.   The entire article is bunk, and here's why:  The uniforms (military) work up plans based on killing people and breaking shit.  The suits (politicians) base operations on public opinion and K-Street.  They meet somewhere in the middle, or, depending upon who's the strongest, at the end range of the power structure.   Always been this way.   There is no disfunction in this regard.   Get this:  The MILITARY and the POTUS do not have to agree, and they seldom do.  So, to quote the old addage, where's the beef?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:16 | 5235658 Blues Traveler
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Oblunder, the regressive president

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:11 | 5235071 NoDebt
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That's the problem with being a pathalogical liar.  Even if you tell the truth some of the time, nobody will ever believe you.  

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."  Uh huh.

"No boots on the ground".  Sure, I believe that.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:24 | 5235153 Pig Circus
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"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."  Uh huh.

"No boots on the ground".  Sure, I believe that.

Or his latest:

If you like your head you can keep your head.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:06 | 5235058 duo
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Hitler overruled his generals many times.  That really worked well.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:16 | 5235110 NidStyles
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Hitler's Generals were in a real war and facing real life and death situations. The US genereals are profit seeking pricks looking to start a real war. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:23 | 5235148 disabledvet
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I think that is the Admirals.

"It starts with a ship....and from there it goes to

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:31 | 5235189 NidStyles
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Ships seem to be the most commonly used method. Remember the MAINE!!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:37 | 5235214 duo
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you might have something here.  Gulf of Tonkin, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, that ship that was blown up off the coast of Israel in the '60s.....

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:46 | 5235256 Big Corked Boots
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USS Liberty - which resulted in +/- 50 years of aid to the attacking nation, and counting.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:16 | 5235107 SAT 800
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Nope. T he CIA is in charge.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:43 | 5235529 oldmanofthesee
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Perfect!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 18:27 | 5236087 Rootin' for Putin
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The commander in chief is in charge, the muslim guy from Kenya.

Funny, since hes been in charge the country has gone the same way as one of those african pisspot dictatorships.  The only thing missing is him in a uniform with big shoulder boards and a horse hair fly swat.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 20:25 | 5236442 whyami
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The commander in chief has handed over his power to the army. He is no longer a ligitimate president anymore.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:02 | 5235042 Buzz Fuzzel
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End the confusion and discord.  Nuke em back to the 8th century where they belong.  No boots on the ground required.

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:05 | 5235049 LawsofPhysics
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That's simply way too efficient.  Look, those fat MIC pensions are simply not going to pay themselves.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:25 | 5235156 disabledvet
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"Let's phuck with their heads then...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:08 | 5235633 ShrNfr
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The boy is a one boy clusterfuck.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 13:58 | 5235020 Statetheist
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Anarchy in Washington? We could only be so lucky.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:10 | 5235075 NotApplicable
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Justin should know better than to confuse anarchy with chaos.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:15 | 5235101 Apply Force
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Yes - or anarchy with no accountability, ineptitude, or various other chaotic things that come to mind. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:01 | 5235024 Kirk2NCC1701
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Obola is trying to contain the spread of War Fever.

Alas, everyone at the DOD, CIA, and large parts of Congress are infected.  One Senator has a terminal case of War Fever:  Sen. McInsane.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:02 | 5235032 trulz4lulz
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Jungle War Fever, it was all the rage in the 60's.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:15 | 5235657 NihilistZero
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I find it gratifying that despite all his power and prestige, John McCain wakes up every morning still pissed that he's short.  You all know he does LOL

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 13:59 | 5235027 unrulian
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Titanic battle within the Obama administration...Iceburg dead ahead

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:01 | 5235029 Seasmoke
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Anarchy is great. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:01 | 5235033 Grande Tetons
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EKM1 is looking pretty smart right now. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:04 | 5235045 Seasmoke
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I was thinking the same exact thing. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:10 | 5235081 Grande Tetons
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Yep, between all the welcome layers of comedy, there are some smart cookies around here. I am not sure if the Pentagon wins this time.  The Pentagon or the Banks! Which is worse? Pretty sure I am fucked either way. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:19 | 5235118 NidStyles
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When has any of this not been complete theater? What makes this situation any more real than the rest of the theater?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:27 | 5235151 Dr. Engali
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This is smart theater for intellectuals, much better than that dumb theater for low-brows when president Cheney....... er, I meant Bush was  "in charge".

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:36 | 5235209 NidStyles
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After a while I realized that somewhere along the ride they changed their tune and started to puppet the previous narrative. They have a clear and defined 5 year trend, so it seems they are using the Chinese methdology now. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:25 | 5235152 Grande Tetons
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Indeed. Forgive me as my eyes are adjusting to the reality that is before me. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:34 | 5235198 NidStyles
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It's all good, it's why ZH is here, to discuss this crap. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:05 | 5235051 NoDebt
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Yeah, I have to admit his perspective was probably a good way of looking at this.  The war machine will sit down for only so long before it's chair starts getting uncomfortable.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:28 | 5235166 Grande Tetons
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To think...he, EKM1 almost stopped posting.  Too bad some other bright lights will not check back in from time to time. 

Anyhow, you should go gopher hunting this weekend to work off the stress. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:08 | 5235067 LawsofPhysics
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I'll weigh in on that when I see the bodies

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:30 | 5235177 disabledvet
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You mean "body count." There needs to be a counter first.

Then you need a cause of death too.

If you're really into this you might want to require an autopsy too. Might be hard to do that on the entire human race...but the internet is now pub in the open so in theory...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:39 | 5235515 LawsofPhysics
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hopefully the bodies won't be "buried at see in accordance with tradition"...

if hindsight is 20/20, some of our government's past activities are going to look pretty fucking stupid...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:13 | 5235092 Winston Churchill
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Putin just needs to deploy tactical battlefield nukes to Syria now.

Time to stop this insanity with the ultimate insanity.

Lets see how crazy these neocons, and bankers really are.

The US MIC has to be destroyed for the SDR bankers wet dream to become possible.

Which of the three factions wins, or do we all lose ?

Tune in next week for the next istallment of. as the world burns.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:00 | 5235329 Freddie
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This MLRS-enabled Grad system  seems to be doing a real job on the Ukie's when used by NovoRusssia.  Hopefully enough Ukie conscripts see videos like this and refuse to fight which is what many are doing. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKozhTPE2X0

S-300s and this would make ISIS/ISIL/NUSRA/Xe/Blackwater/Academie have a really bad day.   No air power dominance and these mercs are going to have a bad day with this Grad.. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:02 | 5235041 Chupacabra-322
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General Dempsy,

If you are somehow reading this. Please for the love of God & every single Freedom Loving Patriot American.

Go arrest this Criminal Fruad UNITED STATES, CORP. CEO.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:16 | 5235384 crazybob369
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And risk his $200,000 annual pension, plus $250,000 per speech after retirement. Sorry, not going to happen.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:06 | 5235044 LawsofPhysics
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Moral hazard is a bitch like that.  If it's clear that certain people/corporations are above the law, everyone will assume that they are also above the law.

Just ask John Corzine, Llyod or Jamie.  It's no surprise they are all "richer than you".

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:08 | 5235062 Seasmoke
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Since 2008 I have also now become above the law.....must say I kind of like the feeling. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:10 | 5235079 LawsofPhysics
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Since we have been collecting the rain water runoff (illegal in most municipalities) at our rentals for years, we have been "above the law" for quite some time...

 

"laws" that cannot be enforced (or bribed around) at not really laws at all...

it's simply a matter of the cost to enforce or violate...

same as it ever was.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:05 | 5235050 NoWayJose
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Congress snuck ISIS funding into a "don't shutdown" bill so there would be no necks stuck out for their opponents to chop off. Then Congress skipped out of town. Anyone voting against the bill could be accused of wanting to shutdown the government. CNN had a nice piece on that this morning - even saying that Congress wants to try to 'keep' its job rather than staying in DC to 'do' its job!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:05 | 5235055 Dr. Engali
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Ohh poor Zero is stuck and he can't face down that evil ISI..., ahem CIA, because it's everybody else's fault but his own. What a piece of shit article.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:06 | 5235061 awakeRewe
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Sure as hell isn't "We the People".

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:08 | 5235064 Fuku Ben
Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:08 | 5235070 vegas
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"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan. My plan will reduce family's premiums $2500 per year." Any questions or can even you libtards figure this out?

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:09 | 5235072 pragmatic hobo
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one thing is for sure ... obama is not in charge.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:21 | 5235124 Badabing
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I remember when he first got into office he called an emergency meeting with the Wall St bankers,
and no one showed up. Knew right there he was a puppet.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:41 | 5235236 pragmatic hobo
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for me the light came on when he appointed tim-geithner as the treasury secretary.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:14 | 5235099 semperfi
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A certain sect of the seeIA is in charge, is running the whole show, in line with mowSaad, and as commanded by the Rothschilds controllers.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:28 | 5235167 viahj
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they may still have the upper hand at this time but i hope that the pushback is gaining strength.  if there were no pushback, we would have bombed Syria earlier.  i hope that the Pentagon is starting to see that the bank lobby (ekm1) is going to burn the US and the global system to the ground in attempt to establish the NWO they've always dreamed of.  most of their pieces are in place and they are on a desperate timeline to finish before the collapse.  the Pentagon Patriots (to the Constitution) have been mostly weeded out and dismissed in large numbers but i hope that there are some remaining who will join the side of liberty.  the defense industry still relies heavily on the USD GRC and it's printing ability so if that goes, so do they.  bank lobby has fataliy wounded the USD GRC, its just a matter of time.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:53 | 5235284 semperfi
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pentagon is "under new management" now also - hope is an indulgence we don't time for - its going to take a miracle - the good guys have tucked tail and left the building - who was that guy that said "a 1,000 years of darkness" ?...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:10 | 5235357 Freddie
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Pentagon Patriots?  Nice fairy tale.  How did that work in The Civil War whenn the banskters controlled the military and politicians to get 1.1 million Americans to slaughter each other?  Or the USS Liberty. 

Supposedly Naval Intel had the goods on what was really going and were taken out at the Pentagon on 9-11 with a missile.  An airliner would not have done that, 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:27 | 5235444 viahj
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yeah, maybe my term Pentagon Patriots was too much hopey but what army in history contiued to march for the oligarch once they stopped getting paid and went hungry?  by this i mean the USD GRC.  in 2008, the banksters got their bailouts in order to halt the collapse so of course the military, who requires the USD GRC, went a long.  in the 6 years since, nothing was fixed and the banksters went all in in their dollar destruction, so when it comes, what happens to the military?  will they agree to be paid in SDRs?  Gold?  Yuan?  I don't know.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 18:53 | 5236165 Escrava Isaura
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Freddie,

You were doing so well.... Until the 9/11.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:17 | 5235108 crazybob369
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“In short, when it comes to the making of American foreign policy what we have in Washington is what appears to be the functional definition of anarchy!”

 

Anarchy?? I don't think so. Anarchy might actually make things better. What we have is complete incompetence, wrapped in corruption, sold as the democratic process.


God help us all, as I fear He is the only one who can. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:17 | 5235109 Diogenes of Sinope
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Didn't he say in his big speech last Wednesday, while announcing that there would be no boots on the ground, he was sending several hundred soldiers?

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

We are fighting ISIS by arming them!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:34 | 5235204 therevolutionwas
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He said no boots in Iraq.   I didn't hear him say Syria.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:18 | 5235115 wmbz
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Obozo the clown, pathetic excuse for a leader of anything, much less a country. Just wait till the moron voters elect the cackling cunt!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:23 | 5235140 Fix It Again Timmy
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The only thing IN charge is Barry's electric golf cart...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:22 | 5235142 forrestdweller
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no, the american government just has a lot of bombs and weapons and the people in charge make money by ordering the government to throw these bombs on people in other countries and then finishing them of with the other weapons. obama does not want war, but the people in charge do.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:26 | 5235158 LFMayor
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great cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj9_YtUNIj8

or if you prefer unfiltered old school:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOe9PJrbo0s

My favorite part of this whole thing is that it's from the "noMoarWar" institute of peacefulness. 

Golden Rule is the golden horde rule, folks.  Or golden shower rule, if you're not one of the golden horde.

Get ready to get wet!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:33 | 5235193 falak pema
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For once France's Hollande seems to have his head screwed on wrt to the cacaphony in Washington.

His role as US surrogate-- who is NOT a surrogate in front of French media as he proudly affirms : France chooses its actions and Rafale targets-- but hopes that his expenses will be covered by the local monarchies and oil producers. To define his strategy he has said : Only in Iraq, not on ground in Syria.

I guess Obama and the MIC are kicking each other's shins under the table in the Oval room on that issue! 

They have to decide if "just Iraq" will solve the problem or not.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:36 | 5235215 surf0766
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France and England need to own up to their mistakes.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

 

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:38 | 5235229 falak pema
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oups, caco has been caca; very troublesome.

In french it means something else.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:56 | 5235298 Robert of Ottawa
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Start with a unified Kurdistan. That'll plss everyone offf :-)

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:39 | 5235210 roadhazard
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So some General says he "may" recomend something and all fucking hell breaks loose in Obama hate Land.  What a bunch of clowns you right wingers are.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:37 | 5235220 williambanzai7
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The author calls this anarchy.

I call this a President lying through his teeth. He knows damn well what comes next.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:54 | 5235289 Robert of Ottawa
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You give Obomber too much credit.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:40 | 5235232 Wait What
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one of the primary problems the west faces dealing with 'insurgents' and 'rebels' is that they have now been educated on the media relations aspects of conducting war. they know how to strategically place imagery in the minds of foreigners, what creates internal contradictions in the ideology/reality that their enemies must reconcile, and have western educated leadership that knows how westerners think.

put all these things together and it's no wonder western govts, esp. the US, look completely discombobulated trying to fight these 'out of nowhere' band of enemy combatants.

don't be surprised when they make America look doubly foolish as the PR losses pile up.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:43 | 5235251 ThroxxOfVron
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Obama might not have control over the Pentagon and most probably doesn't have control over the Black Ops.

For all  we know Kissinger and/or Cheney or/??? might still be running one or more arms of the MIC.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:46 | 5235260 Duc888
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Dude, our government doesn't speak with one voice.

Our Pentagon does not speak with one voice.

The FBI does not speak with one voice

The NSA does not speak with one voice....same for DIA, same for NRO  same for DHS...

and on down the line.  It's all a scam to fleece others...

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 21:35 | 5236641 thebigunit
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It's all a scam to fleece others...

I'm sure you were trying to be helpful.  But what am I supposed to do with this information?

 

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 06:36 | 5237349 StychoKiller
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Watch the watchers!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:53 | 5235262 pashley1411
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Despite all the hot air about who is in charge, after the November election the confusion will become the Main Event.

The Obamanator will follow his totalitarian instinct and channel the not-so-inner-Chavez he has always imagined he was meant to be.

And the rest of the country will stand in horror and count down the hours to his departure.   

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:48 | 5235265 elephant
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Ground troops, no; combat troops, no; but combat ground troops, yes.

It is just a matter of semantics.  Maybe they haven't coined the right term yet.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:49 | 5235271 JRobby
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The oligarchs are, but they are vacationing right now.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:51 | 5235278 Robert of Ottawa
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It's not anarchy. It's the three stooges Barry, Val and Johnny.

Obomber owns this mess as he withdrew the troops from Iraq

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:50 | 5235280 Robert of Ottawa
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It's not anarchy. It's the three stooges Barry, Val and Johnny.

Obomber owns this mess as he withdrew the troops from Iraq

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 14:52 | 5235283 p00k1e
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The CIA must of warned Bush…. And Bush let a non-citizen slip right in.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:00 | 5235299 Jack Burton
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It should be clear to any aware person that Presidents as basically puppets, put into office by what we call the " Deep State" players.

Corporate CEOs , Heads of major Money Center Banks, What may be termed "Old Money" [long established great wealth holders], the Leaders inside the CIA, NSA, FBI, DEA etc, Major Religious Leaders who are consulted by the above leaders, The entire management of the Military Industrail Complex, Certain Media owners, Top Generals and Admirals, certain politicians taken into the Deep State [like the BUsh family, the Clinton family and others].

Taken together, these leaders share a common set of goals.  US hegomony abroad, Dollar Hegemony, Banker Hegomony, unlimited military spending, expansion of a police state from NSA down to street cops, control of all media and university agendas, an Israel above all others foreign and economic policy, the further expansion of crony capitalism, money printing and Fed market manipulation.  If you go deeper into those goals, most all of present US policy is explainable in those terms.

Obama, is their usefull idiot. As evidence I present the 8 year Bush administration, the "usefull idiot" carried to an exteme. Only a fool believed that Mr. Bush was the decider. Like Bush, Obama takes orders from our "Deep State". The "Deep State" does not include you or me, or workers, or small business, or local economic interests, like city, town, village, countryside. Our local economies are raped by them and we can all see what they have done in the last 30 years. Obama, Puppet in chief! Those who say there is no plan, are simply playing the old "two party" "my team versus your team" hoax. 

The best spokemen for this "Deep State"  are CNN, MSNBC and FOX. Our so called major media outlets are "Deep State" mind control operations. Watch them for a week, you can see that anyone getting their news from them, are totally brainwashed dupes.                                  

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:19 | 5235405 Freddie
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+100

TV and Hollywood are for idiots who support their own serfdom. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 21:42 | 5236659 thebigunit
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So, who actually IS this "DEEP STATE"?

Do they have names?

It's not very informative when you report who they are NOT, and who their SPOKESMEN are.

I would really like to see the official regular season  Deep State roster and depth chart. Can I buy a souvenir program somewhere?

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 06:41 | 5237353 StychoKiller
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The Network of Global corporate Control...

Find out WHO controls the corporations that control...

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 22:06 | 5239369 Jack Burton
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You mean you can't find the leaders of the orgaizations I just listed. They are public record. This is a joke, is it?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:54 | 5235310 Moccasin
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Chaos is not Anarchy. Chaos is Washington and its hypocrisy and its ongoing cognitive dissonance. Anarchy is a political or Apolitical system depending on your view. Anarchy is a stateless and leaderless self organized society. This article has a Bad and misleading headline. :( It should of read, "Chaos in Washington".

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:20 | 5235391 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's a "Whole Lotta Love" that's missing from DC.  And the US.  No wonder "Folks" are un-happy.

Well, it turns out that the US is not the "Happiest Place on Earth".  This Is How 135 Nations Fare on Happiness*

People/"Folks" in Costa Rica, Denmark, Austria and Brazil are all noticeably happier than in the US.

By the same token ppl in Argentina seem equally happy/unhappy as in the US.  People in Chile seem less so.  What gives, Simon?

Saudis are far happier than anyone else in the ME, even than in Israel. And fornicating Jamaicans seem less happy than dancing Israelis.

The UK index may have fallen a "wee bit" this morning, eh laddie? 

Don't understand why the rich, cozy pricks in Belgium and Luxemburg seem so unhappy.  No pleasing some people.

"Folks" in Poland seem only slightly happier than people in Russia.  For now. Wait till Dec/Jan.  LOL.

Don't understand why the Czechs are so much more miserable than Slovaks, given that they got all the touristy places and sweetheart deals from German/Western companies.  Maybe they keep losing too many of their stunningly gorgeous women to the Porn industry, or to Albanian Mafia human trafficking.

People in Kosovo and Slovenia seem happiest (relatively speaking) in the Balkans or former Yugoslavia.

Greece, Serbia, Albania, Lithuania, Italy, Ukraine, Croatia share the bottom range, i.e. in the Misery range for Europe.  And with the notable exception of Brazil, all BRICS seem pretty unhappy overall.  South Korea seems like a pretty damn miserable place to be: All work and no play...

* http://www.livescience.com/47863-countries-happiness-rank.html

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:24 | 5235427 Freddie
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Odd the Czechs are less happy than the Slovaks.  I met Czech and Slovak girls in Europe and London.  The Czechs are usually very pretty while the Slovaks are more farm girl like.  Still beats the hell out of trash like fat-ass Kim who many idiolize. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:23 | 5235414 JR
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There exists now in America no accomplished writer who is more opposed to war than Justin Raimondo.  And his constant efforts are to oppose the carnage and the costs that America has inflicted and suffered with its senseless wars.

When government officials are elected by the mob and appeal to the mob you have mob rule which is anarchy in its lowest form (and Justin uses this to define the path the government takes as directed by the mob).

And Justin is right; this is anarchy - a Tower of Babel constructed in Washington, D.C., by D-level voters. And as history tells us, and just as James Madison predicted, it is destined to fall. This is what happens when a great nation receives its direction by giving the vote, through political corruption,  to people who have no stake in the government except to take.

At every turn the Founders’ principle of voting by responsible citizens (property owners) has been altered from the direct election of senators, to allowing illegals to vote, to gerrymandering like-minded voting districts to setting up blockades to third party opposition.

The results are representatives the likes of Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and the Bushes...who give us the likes of a Colin Powell.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:42 | 5235525 q99x2
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the conflicting messages being put out there by various wings of the national security establishment remind us of the Empire’s sheer size and the scale of the bureaucracy: it is large enough to constitute what are, in effect, competing governments

 

Nah that's the NWO taking over the United States of America. First it turns to quagmire and then fire. To clean it up all the world has to do is get rid of a couple of queens, two banking families, the Goldman and the JP Morgue. Not a big deal but I think the people with the money will just let it all burn down on its own.

 


Fri, 09/19/2014 - 15:47 | 5235546 Ansare
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I've read ZH since '08. As you all know the doom and gloom is constant. While many of the things discussed here may take place and send us all to hell, I'm getting the sense the world, the US, the financial system, etc are a bit more durable than the scare-mongering headlines of the last six years would lead one to believe. Sure, they may come to fruition...but after hearing the blaring sirens so long it's getting kind of old. 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:00 | 5235599 Nick Jihad
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"Constrained by his own campaign promises"  ???   Since when has the Prevaricator in Chief ever been constrained by campaign promises? Is that why we still have prisoners in Gitmo?

"Left with the Iraqi mess he inherited from the Bush administration" ???   Didn't you mean to say the "Bushitler" administration?

"The Sunni-Shia civil war we encouraged"   ??? What you mean "we", Kimo-Sabe?

 

Hey Tyler, I can read this crap on HuffPo anytime I want.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 17:08 | 5235848 gcjohns1971
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'Constrained by his own campaign promises' INDEED! 

The idea that a politician could be CONSTRAINED by PROMISES of any sort is an insult to honest men everywhere.

 

The man lies about absolutely EVERYTHING.   Where's the constraint?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:23 | 5235677 Eahudimac
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Washington takes its orders from Tel Aviv, the City of London and Wall Street. If you want to know what's going on, ask them.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 21:57 | 5236697 thebigunit
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I DO want to know what's going on.

Do you have their e-mail addresses?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:30 | 5235704 wonderatitall
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what we have is a chicago criminal with fascist leanings and the industrial/milatary complex. best hope is the kill each other

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:40 | 5235748 Son of Captain Nemo
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In short, when it comes to the making of American foreign policy what we have in Washington is what appears to be the functional definition of anarchy! And the libertarians haven’t even taken over yet.

Excellent!!!

A nuclear superpower with the largest military budget that would be triple of all the other nuclear weapons capable power(s) combined that no longer appears to have a centralized chain of command (it officially ended with this guy's administration) reporting to this guy who serves that smaller government the U.S. has been funding since 1949, which happened before that state of emergency was declared in the "war on terror"...

Just in case we don't understand why the U.S. government is falling under the yoke of "anarchy" but which is more preferably called tyranny in the face of treason carried out against their own government and Constitution for crimes against humanity on behalf of that "smaller government" that prefers to use the U.S. to start and maintain it's wars on it's behalf including paying for it's people(s) with American taxpayers money since it delcared itself a sovereign Nation -maybe this will help you understand the treason...

A list of American legislators with dual citizenship status to the State of Israel.

Who loves ya baby?!!!

 

Members in US politics who hold dual US/Israeli citizenship:

June 2013

Past and Present:

1.Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

Current members as best I could find:
Senate:
•Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
•Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
•Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
•Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
•Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
•Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
•Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
•Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
•Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
•Senator Bernard Sanders (Vermont) (Independent)
•Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
•Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

House of Representatives:
•Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
•Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
•Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
•Representative Howard Berman (California)
•Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
•Representative Susan Davis (California)
•Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
•Representative Bob Filner (California)
•Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
•Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
•Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
•Representative Jane Harman (California)
•Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
•Representative Steve Israel (New York)
•Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
•Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
•Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
•Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
•Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
•Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
•Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
•Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
•Representative Adam Schiff (California)
•Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
•Representative Brad Sherman (California)
•Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
•Representative Henry Waxman (California)
•Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
•Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)
zatetic June 2013
http://jewishcurrents.org/the-112th-congress-3476

All the jews in congress are democrats or independents (basically democrats) except one, Eric Cantor. He may be the highest ranking Tea Partier elected lol.

http://tinyurl.com/m3wdevf

 

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 17:05 | 5235838 gcjohns1971
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Sounds like you got some incorrect information.

Anthony Weiner is not a Congressman.  He blew up his carreer with a penis-picture posted to the internet.

Eric Cantor is not a Tea Party darling.

Eric Cantor was the highest ranking incumbent Congressman ever to lose the party primary.  He lost it to a Tea Party member.

 

Since these were big stories here... I am thinking you're not from around here, huh?

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 17:14 | 5235858 Son of Captain Nemo
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Thanks for identifying the "gross errors" in the list gc. I'll make a note of it and record the changes.

I also heard from another informed "dual citizen" that Joe Lieberman is NOT a dual citizen... Even if his wife is and the fact that he routinely works for them in passing along U.S. intel.

As a matter of fact "Ayn" Rand Paul isn't a "dual citizen" either, but he certainly isn't his father and prostrates himself in front of Talmud Temple every chance he gets!

As Meir Rothschild probably said many times in his lifetime bribing and extorting the English and French government(s) who fucking needs religion when you can print money and rule everything!!!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 19:29 | 5236265 Escrava Isaura
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And Eric Cantor was raised in Conservative Judaism.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 23:34 | 5236928 TeethVillage88s
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This seems to fit post:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/19/us-usa-secession-exclusive-idU...

Exclusive: Angry with Washington, 1 in 4 Americans open to secession

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:52 | 5235780 Son of Captain Nemo
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Plus as your bonus for being so self absorbed indifferent to what your elected leaders in Washington do with your money in places like Iraq, Syria and Ukraine...

Washington D.C. will be bringing ISIS potentially to your doorstep like a Domino's Pizza delivery boy!

Isn't it grand?  The pretext in section 1021 of the NDAA on the definition of what constitutes "the global battlefield" being CONUS/OCONUS now fits -Thanks to you!!!

It's really true what they say -You get what you pay for!

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 16:50 | 5235783 gcjohns1971
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Clearly Michael Obama is in charge.

And those troops are not on the ground.  They are on their boot soles.  And the boot soles are on the ground.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 18:33 | 5236106 limacon
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The General Staff seems to be running things . A silent coup ?
See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/05/general-staff-and-facebook.html

The Goldwater-Nichols act was supposed to prevent this after some unfortunate incidents.
See
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff
"Following the Goldwater-Nichols Act in 1986, the Joint Chiefs of Staff do not have operational command authority, neither individually nor collectively, ... "

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 06:53 | 5237355 StychoKiller
Fri, 09/19/2014 - 19:23 | 5236257 blindman
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the international banksters are in charge. the fed.
what, you don't trust them?
.
Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJeemTQ7Vk
.
http://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/
.
"Part One: The Origins of the Fed

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” – FDR letter to Colonel Edward House, Nov. 21 1933

All our lives we’ve been told that economics is boring. It’s dull. It’s not worth the time it takes to understand it. And all our lives, we’ve been lied to.

War. Poverty. Revolution. They all hinge on economics. And economics all rests on one key concept: money.

Money. It is the economic water in which we live our lives. We even call it ‘currency'; it flows around us, carries us in its wake. Drowns those who are not careful.

We use it every day in nearly every transaction we conduct. We spend our lives working for it, worrying about it, saving it, spending it, pinching it. It defines our social status. It compromises our morals. People are willing to fight, die and kill for it." j.c.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 19:37 | 5236297 kchrisc
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The CIA, their Israeli and Rothschild masters, the neo-cons and evangelical Christians are running things.

Don't believe it, keep watching

An American, not US subject.

 

Note: The elites and Rothschild banksters are not unified. There are at least two spheres of influence. One cons the sheeple via the Democratic party facade and utilizes the Pentagon as their wing of overt power and force. The other facilitates their con via the Republican party while utilizing the CIA as their wing of overt power and force. Currently this wing owns the Oval Office and is undermining the Democratic party and the Pentagon wing of power from within. Quite diabolical if one stops to think about it.

If one goes back to the Pentagon papers and looks at each crisis that followed over the ensuing decades, and the backgrounds of the players involved, he will quickly identify the tit for tat battle between the CIA and Pentagon wings of power. Ditto the latest General officer take downs and intrigue overseas including Egypt, Syria and Libya.

Nixon himself was a CIA asset that was brought down by the Pentagon in retaliation for the Pentagon papers. The Left and Pentagon wing of power, playing catch up, started the Trilateral Org. in 1973 and then got their guy into the Oval Office in 1977.

Fri, 09/19/2014 - 23:48 | 5236955 22winmag
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Let's have a benevolent coup and put some random patriotic mid level Army officer in charge of the country.

 

The country would be far better off... just like Egypt if far better off with the fucking collaborators kicked our on their asses.

Sat, 09/20/2014 - 13:08 | 5238073 morongobill
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My guess is if we keep getting empty suits in the White House, some group of colonels somewhere might decide to put one of their own in charge.

And the sheeple will applaud the change.

Sun, 09/21/2014 - 00:11 | 5239599 Dr_Snooz
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Whenever Obama declares something emphatically, I always assume he will do the opposite. So far, he's never disappointed.

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