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Was Scottish Vote Rigging Caught On Tape?
Given the pre-vote polls and 300 years of historical resentment, many were somewhat surprised at the overwhelming "No" vote in last night's Scottish Independence referendum. While we now know that the vote broke very cleanly between old ("no") and young ("yes") Scots, the following clip suggests the possibility that more was afoot than that. As the commentator blasts, "Busted! Absolutely busted!" You decide...
As Martin Armstrong rages, Is anything real anymore...
I have communicated directly with some Scots. I spoke to an 18 year segment to get a perspective of the youth. They used the word that they wanted a “REVOLUTION” and feel very betrayed by what they called the over “65″ crowd. This is what our model has been warning about and why this is important. Unfunded liabilities are around the global as populations enter the retirement age of the baby-boomers worldwide – post-World War II surge in births. The birth rate and marriage rate has been declining, efforts are building around the globe to encourage women to have children. In Britain, the NHS is funding a sperm bank for lesbians.Just for starters, Germany, Japan, Russia, and Taiwan are paying women to have children and the list keeps going. Why? What happened to over population? The older generation is dying off and the social programs are gauging the younger generation causing taxation to rise and the youth cannot find work.
David Cameron basically said reading between the lines – the younger generation lost and their fate is now settled “for a generation.” This degree of arrogance is not going to be helpful. Governments will not reform and that brings us only to the bring of our right civil unrest that will rip the systems apart. No one in charge will address the long-term. They are only concerned about one vote at a time.
Now the recriminations. There is a rising tide among the YES camp that view the Scottish vote was rigged. There are videos and photographs emerging calling the votes rigged. There is special focus on Dundee where photos are circulating on Twitter and Facebook demonstrating the rigging of the election. The polling stations also accused were directly in Edinburgh. This will be like Bush stealing the election in the USA and it will linger causing tremendous resentment in Britain. The whole of Europe needed the Scottish NO vote. Since Brussels rigged the Italian elections, we cannot rule out their involvement behind the scenes yet in Scotland. This has led to so many in Scotland feeling they have been cheated and reduced to second class slaves of London and Brussels.
International Business Times is reporting the uproar. We all have to be deeply concern given the fact that in Europe, the Commission is a dictatorship. The people can vote for a minister to be in Brussels, but the Commission does not have to abide by whatever the people want anyway. What must be understood is this is now about maintaining Brussels.They are paying themselves outrageous amounts of money for absolutely nothing. Just one EU Commissioner will get €400,000 for not working as reported by the Telegraph.
The EU Commission was threatened by Scotland because if they won their independence, the contagion would have engulfed all of Europe and that would cost jobs in Brussels. This is not about what is good for Europe, it is what is now good for the politicians to keep their huge salaries.
The most interesting evidence of DISTRUST is the capital movement. One would expect the Euro and the pound to rally with the threat of separatism dead. Instead, The pound rallied moderately but not the Euro. Capital is clearly aware that the game is still afoot.
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There is oil at stake here, did they really think they could vote themselves 'free"
Seriously?
http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2014/09/scottish-poll-rigged-aangirfan-2569306.html
I never met a voting machine I liked
Yep... reminds me of the rigging of the Kennedy / Nixon election!!!!!
It matters not who votes. It matters who counts the votes.
With cameras everywhere these days, if there was voting counting fraud, expect much more video evidence to come out over the coming weeks and months.
Weeks and months?
See You Tube right now!
When tens of trillions of dollars are at stake, anything goes.
Sincerely, the winners in the Status Quo lottery.
Didnt Mugabe say something along the lines of, "You will not take from me with the pen, what I took with the sword."
Revolution is the antidote!
I think the referendum was shot down by a Russian Buk missile system.
There's even more evidence of vote rigging shown here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3oRg-VKuE68
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
Quoting the article: "I spoke to an 18 year segment to get a perspective of the youth. They used the word that they wanted a “REVOLUTION” and feel very betrayed by what they called the over “65? crowd. This is what our model has been warning about and why this is important. Unfunded liabilities are around the global as populations enter the retirement age of the baby-boomers worldwide – post-World War II surge in births."
The 65+ crowd need dependence on government to pay for their depends.
That's my potty humour for the day.
I see the same divide right here in my own extended family. Boomers en masse are going to go down dishonorably. History will not be so kind to this era of humanity. That is for sure.
But, alas, it is part of the cycle. Everyone playing thier respective role in the grand play. Everything in due time I suppose.
EVERYTHING is a lie. Prepare accordingly.
De Opresso Liber
Bitchez
See you on the other side :)
Truth exists...therefore not everything can be a lie.
Of course truth must be discovered...and already we are "far behind the curve."
Map looks like small "brushfires" of freedom to me.
This is why pot is being made legal. It makes the ability of the consumers to organize zip null, void, impossible.
Jim fixed it... ( or his remnants did )
Eyes open, no fear.
There's no vote-rigging. This is a Protestant vs. Roman Catholic thing that has been going on for centuries. The Protestants love the crown. And the Catholics want to break away. Scotland will remain loyal to the crown for the forseeable future.
rigged...as here, this side of Atlantic; so there.
"violent revolution inevitabe..."
"bushfire of freedom..."
The socialists couldn't even rig this crap with Diebold?
Scotland Independence Referendum: Videos Claim Vote ‘Is Definitely a Fix’
The independence movement in Scotland has nothing to do with religion. It's not a Protestant vs Catholic thing at all. Only 16% of the population are Catholic, and plenty of them voted No. Plenty of Protestants voted yes. There is, however, a section of society - particularly in the west of the country - who are tied in to the same type of Protestant Unionism you see in Northern Ireland. They were the ones out in force causing trouble last night, and are a complete scourge on Scottish society. They'll be having another of their triumphalistic Orange Walks today in Glasgow. If it doesn't kick off again, we'll be doing well.
RUSSIAN ELECTION OBSERVERS: WESTMINSTER RIGGED SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE VOTE
If everything is a lie, then so is your comment. Care to try again?
Interesting to watch the change in the ZH comments section over the last 24 hours. From "Those Scots were all a bunch of lazy cowards, they deserve to be slaves" To "Of course the vote was rigged, what did you expect?" without skipping a beat.
I guess we have different people commenting today.
Just sayin'.
Lazy cowards and rigged elections aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
The only way that the result of a rigged election stands is directly due to the lazy coward. It is a necessity that they are inclusive.
Back in the 80's I was a volunteer EMT for the Gulf County, Florida's all volunteer ambulance squad. We were like an adjunct to the county, meaning we were a big pain in the ass to them.
At the time, I was also working one of my five jobs as DJ/News Reporter/Wandering Idiot for a local radio station, WJBU.
Don't remember the year, but Sheriff Ken Murphy was running against Al Harrison and, as a 'member of the media' (and pretty well known in Port St. Joe, Fl) I was admitted into the County Courthouse on election night as they counted ballots. Yep, it was Florida, but this was LONG before hanging chads, misplaced ballots and all the other shit going on these days. Everything was manual, pencil and paper, and old style adding machines at the tables.
Every other item on the ballot was settled pretty quick. Pretty good majority on whatever was there. Except for County Sheriff. All the votes were totaled and there was one vote difference. So it was passed on to another group to recount. They came up with a one vote difference the other way. The groups were split, others added, and the count came back one vote different as original. The groups were intermingled, and drew numbers from a hat, then did another count. The result was one vote the other way.
I was flabbergasted. At the time I was about 23...I was not a native Floridian...I was a California Import from, what was then, a powerhouse of society. The recount was done about another seven times in various manners.
Finally, the lady in charge of the whole thing said, "You! You're pretty new around here, aren't you?" Me: "Yes, ma'am, I've been here about three years, why?" Her: "Have you been political?" Me: "Other than bitching about your idiotic Morality Ordinance the council has been talking about, no...I vote but I do my best to stay uninvolved."
"You count these. Everyone observe."
So I count. The ballots are in bundles of 100. And there's maybe 37 bundles. (Small county, obviously). I count until it's about 3 am. By that time the room has the Sheriff and his competitor in it, along with all the County Commissioners and every other politician piece of shit from around 200 miles. And they all watch me count.
About 3:15 AM, one vote difference...for the competitor. The Sheriff had his crew go through both piles immediately.
The Registrar called the election.
Subsequent to all this. Does anyone remember why we all of a sudden had metal detectors and shit in courthouses?
Clyde Melvin killed a judge and an attorney in the Port St. Joe Courthouse. Sheriff Al Harrison shot him on the roof.
A year or so later, some deputy was unloading his shit from a boat, slipped, and his side arm went off shooting him up from the neck to the head. I was one of the first responders.
After that incident no matter what I did, I could NOT get a traffic ticket on military property, or anywhere else, in Florida, Alabama, Georgia, or South Carolina. I drove a lot, back then, for my job and I had a lead foot. I got pulled over ALL the time. Back then cops didn't just come up and arbitrarily shoot you. It was "Your license please, do you know why I pulled you over?" They'd go back to their car and do whatever...then come back a few minutes later with "Please drive safely, slow it down a little."
Pussy PSTD kicks in.
I read what I wrote while ago and tears sread in my eyes.
I never had to kill anyone, but what I'm remembering about keepiing them alive...
Yeah, I'm a puss.
I don't know why this shit from 30 years ago puts me into a sobbing fuckin' pussy all of a sudden..not enough beer!
Jesus fuckin' christ, this came out of no where.
,)...AH, Alright, trying to keep my shit together. Just spent about thirty minutes of replaying the worst fuckin' experiences of my life for some reason. From watching a three week old baby die six times in my hands (she now has three kids) to the guy with his arm under a converyor roller, the stingray stings..the guy who called for help for eating bad oysters that died as we pullled up...and the wrecks and deaths. All this shit I forgot about is suddenly here over some stupid shit I wrote on Zero Hedge.
Holy fucking christ...do I at least proclaim that I'm HEALED!?
(Apparently I'm fucikin' not and apparently I need to forget this shit because apparently I did some social shit and apparently some of it was horrendous and apparently when a ditch doctor is the highest medical advice of most that you've encountered
AHH, I think I've nailed tonight's problem...a new (old) memory just reserected.
There used to be a drawbridge between White City and Port St. Joe (there were a shitload of draw bridges between St. Joe and anywhere else...in fact, Overstreet had a floating drawbridge that, I shit you not, you'd pull you car up to the line, honk your horn, and this old man would come out, eventually, with a stick. He'd put the stick in a hole in his 'domain' and walk in circles until you got close enough to the other side that you'd take you chances. Most of us 'sane' people waited until he stoped winding his ass around the pole and gave us and 'all clear'.
It's tying together. Ok, I might explain this bizzarre shit, or not. I apologize, tonight is a bad night and I made it public on here. Very sorry, ignore, carry one.
Let it go man....it's over.
Deal with it.
Yes, you're healed...lol.
Hey...shit happens, life goes on. You went into it (EMT) to help people and you have. You should have known you wouldn't be able to save everyone or if you did, you were simply wrong. There's not much you (or anyone) can do when half of a guys head is missing.
You did the best you could, thats all anyone else ever expected.
Let it go my brother and you just did ;-)
@OldPharth :Seriously hooked up to ZH means having issues...
Why would I concern myself about how the world turns if not
mine tends to stop? Accelerate your search and drive away from denial and you end up in open waters even if all you tried to navigate was the rivers that got you floating in the first place.
This hard adherence to truth or you get junked to hell
can be sort of mind bogging to your life long living lies
or you just have to let go like you just did.
Freaking religious play, but no harm and no lifelong membership required ! Cheer up , fight club is about finding
fun again in life !
soul stripping
Thank you everyone responding.
That was the weirdest night of my life. I'm very proud of what I've done, but doing it has never been an issue. Last night brought a flood of horrifying images of what I actually did.
I have never harmed anyone, but those I rescued from harm still haunt me, apparently. I know that the baby has been active on my mind from the first second until today. That was the moment I actually saw death sit down next to me.
I'm pretty recovered. As i said, this is pussy PTSD, there are those that have real issues. Mine took me by surprise and they're pretty minor in comparison to the others out there. I have no guilt, just horror. To those who feel guilt, let that go.
From one Old Pfart to another, it's OK.
PTSD is very real, and it can come on suddenly, triggered in any number of ways that cause buried memories to bubble up. It can be a smell, a reference, a sound, or a visual that suddenly brings a rush of supressed emotions. For me, the sound of a helicopter's rotors makes the hair on my arms stand straight up, and if I am alone, no telling if the tears will start or not.
You have plenty of company, too. Witnessing & participating in the dance along the fine line between life & death will leave emotional scars inside all of us. Cops, EMT's, Soldiers, Social Workers, all suffer emotional damage to some degree.
Be well, brother, and thank you for the public service you provided to the rest of us.
Pretty good story. We have all had those bad nights, at least we that still have a consience to kill.ald
Try this old
http://www.emdr.com/general-information/what-is-emdr.html
(with out the therapist)
I flip my eyes back and forth about 40 to 50 times and feel releif.
this has been effective for me.
Sorry,Yahoo has been flipping me around from here lately.
I was going to reply to your post telling you that it was unreadable given the current thread style here at ZH. However, I discovered something. When you hit "reply" the post comes up in a neat paragraph style that's easy to read. So - great story and thanks for making me reply to discover I can read these long ones by hitting reply. Now my reply will show up as a single word tower.
Towering response. Stay true to the grammar and the
narrative. And make it rhyme half way through a sentence.
You `ll be fine.
Trust me.
Or not :-)
"Boomers en masse are going to go down dishonorably."
But nature will treat them kindly and have mercy, cancer meets gluttony in unhealthy minds.
I hope something comes of this video.
haha, they will welcome electronic voting, and then they are truly controlled.
This is a nice litmus test to count the shills here on ZH..
Just look for the ones that are downplaying the obvious
I love the way the reporting on this has been assuming it was a No camp conspiracy which is just plain biased. The people rigging the votes - if that's what they are doing - could just as likely be Yes camp.
Stating the scots Yes vote should of been overwhelming? WTF? The only person saying this was Alex Salmond - The vast majority of people in Scotland receive benefits/welfare and I bet when they thought about their vote this was a major factor for keeping the UK together.
Those who reckon the vote results are rigged in a major way are talking out of their arse.
Scotland decided - The Yes camp lost. Get over it.
maybe there was two way cheating
but photo evidence shows YES votes in the NO pile, and people at the counting table marking NO ballots, not the other way round.
there are many vids of NO cheating. where is the vids of YES cheats, or doesn't the NO crowd have iphones?
just my2cents....member 7 weeks and 10 hours.
It is Friday. Go cash your troll paycheck.
Nice frigging try.
What the fucks that got to do with anything how long I been a member??? I've been reading zerohedge for years FYI.
I'll state my case again: what little rigging that might of went on for BOTH sides would NOT have made a difference to the outcome of the vote.
<sarc>Troll rant over.</sarc>
From what I've read, the vast majority of thos getting 'benefits/welfare' are those 50 and over. And the vast majority of those voted 'NO'.
I'm an American, I don't know how their particular social security ponzie scheme works. But if it's anything similar to ours, I would have to vote 'No, too. Because, at this stage of my life, I want stability and security.
You youngsters out there. Blow this shit up. I already knew I would get neither stability or security. I wrote that off in the 80's.
I'm voting for stability and security and you stupid young fucks should be overwhelming my voice by a margin of twenty to one. But you're not.
If you're 40 or younger, you should be so overwhelming pissed at our fourth-world nation government that you should be actively shooting at it. You have been thrown away. You are not even a part of their calculus. I'm still a part of their calculus, barely, because I straddle the 'likely to see retirement' line. I haven't expected to be able to retire since the 80's when Congress said 'fuck it' to social security.
Since the 80's our War Criminal Government has allowed every import on earth, from Japanese Cars to diseases and terrorists, to come into this country unfettered. We have all paid the price: in taxes, inflation, public education, colleges, politically correctness (which I give a large, loud, 'Fuck You!', to), PC-gay mariages (yes, I was an unexpected Maid of Honor at a Lesbian Wedding for an employee when I was up front and they handed me the bougeat), (we were there because the wife wanted to see the Queen Mary).
I am not a politically correct person (you should see my unholy (drunken) rants on facebook!). I think most of those in our current government should die by piano wire two inches off the ground, NOW. Anything that takes them out between now and the next year is considered a bonus.
If you're 40 and under, you should already be in jail, or still killing politicians. Otherwise, being on Zero Hedge, makes you a posuer or government plant.
How does one achieve stability and securty, by pointing a gun at others? Sure, both can be achieved for some of the people, on a finite timeline but doing so requires acts of evil. Stability and security last only as long as people are willing to tolerate the evil, or the math catches up with the centuries of evading reality.
This mean reversion will be a motherfucker. Perhaps the best thing to wish on someone, is that they do not live to see it?
Me thinks you complaineth too much.
"Since the 80's our War Criminal Government has allowed every import on earth, from Japanese Cars to diseases and terrorists, to come into this country unfettered."
Too much of a good. Get real old man.
2cents not worth any penny. Your comments are
not worthy of any gypsy for his free shit as an alien parasite of his Queens guest or the democratic non domain over sovereign countries to suffer such vultures.
Scots voted . You scum counted and has had the last laugh.
Know what ? Hate and pressure just builds up further.
Secession all over Europe is the only escape from the EUSSR.
Good riddance EU-fascists.
For starters I can't stand the EU not least the fact that it is run by undemocratically appointed oligarchs.
Second Alex Salmond was ready to leave the UK only to sell out Scotland to the EU so he could get on the gravy train so I'm sorry but YOUR comments are not worth any penny.
Age old practice of counting all the right votes.
Wrong result ? Count again.
On a local village level only the politically engaged
people will do the counting and even "neutral" participants
will be pressured by the desired outcome.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK
"You actually have to get off your ass and kill and maim the bastards."
- Ireland
Which I'm sure all 4.7 million of them woke up this morning and had to hold back on snickering.
So, they let the No voters run the vote?!
Dumbasses, don't deserve to be free.
No EXIT POLLS. No 3rd party observers.
A private company has been hired to investigate Scottish voting fraud. There is a 25 billion Euro fund for whistleblowers who have documented proof of voting fraud, and for those that have too much proof - I mean some proof - a Witness Protection Program has been established that will insure you will never be seen or heard from again.
Thank you for your cooperation to promote democracy.
Sarc?
Protection like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Connell
The list is long . . .
Since mr armst0ng is intejecting as mr opinion maker, please be aware of his ties to the NWO
For new peeps, a source checking observation:
Martin Armstr0ng was the gopher boy for Brit Neocon Sir Alan Walters. Armstr0ng's mentor was a card carrying member of the NWO. Walters is dead now but when he was alive this is how Walters spent his time:
> Monetarist econ advisor to Margaret Thatcher
> Adviser to the World Bank
> Vice Chairman of AIG Trading Group
> American Enterprise Institute
AEI, you may have heard, is the HQ for the NeoCon NWO Goat Worshipers who are responsible for damn near every bad thing happening in the world right now.
Armstr0ng's writings show he is trying to keep that NWO flame alive, doing his part by highlighting one side of a manufactured conflict. A manufactured conflict brought to you by his handlers in NeoCon central - the American Enterprise Instute. They have spent years pushing their Hegelian dialectic, order out of chaos game plan.
Armstr0ng is one their pets. He may have arrived at this point against his will, via bribery, coercion etc, leveraging his trouble with the law. The outcome is he is neocon pet and therefore a professional shit disturber. Caveat emptor amigos.
You’re so cute.
We’ve all watched the video of the Pentagon getting cracked-up with a jet airliner that wasn’t there.
We all noticed there were no traffic cams or weather cameras or private cameras catching a jet airliner, at building height, arcing across the Washington sky.
Shhhhhhhhhh don't wake a sleeping statist, they can be very agressive, best to let them sleep.
Yea.. I do believe it was rigged, but somehow It seems strange that its just 2 piles of paper?.. nothing written on it? like a Yes or no?..
kinda strange.
and then do they just take someones word for the tally?.. I'm lost.
Someone posted a link to a video on the Daily Telegraph or Gaurdian. They were interviewing the woman responsible for controlling the vote counting a day or so prior to the vote taking place. She straight out stated, "I hope people are happy with the results. That will show I counted right" or something extremely close to that. Who says that??!?!?!?!?! Why would you need an interview and why would you state you are hoping they agree with your count ... Just weird fucking shit to say about a vote.
Bullshit kids, the cold hard fucking truth is, there sure as fuck wasn't enough ballot stuffing to account for the lose this bad!!
Welcome to the slave show, the truth IS your parents and grandparents are the ones who sold you out, NOT the British Ballot Stuffers!!!
This shit should have been 80-20 in favor (like Crimea) if you WERE the BBC/Hollywood manufactured culture, you bought into over the last 35 years!!! But it was 55-45 NO, that's a million fucking ballots, wake up and look in the mirror kids and then look right right in the SCOTTISH faces of your betrayors, your parents and grandparents!!!
Isnt Keynesian Econiomcs Great!! Bullish Scottish Whiskey Tonight!
I have an 81-year old friend who is a Korean War vet, and he has nothing but disdain for baby boomers.
Quotes I remember him saying
"Those hippys f**ked everything up"
"WE spolied those kids rotten"
"We grew up in the depression and world war and we wanted to make it better for them"
"I planned for my retirement, and the taxpayers planned for theirs"
"I have faith in the [millennials] because they'll solve all of these problems with their computers."
"I'm glad I was in my twentys in the 1950s, and not now with that [bleep] in the white house and sissy boys marrying"
It's sad to see the greatest generation disappearing, but their works will live on.
Man you should have been on this thread earlier today.....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/scotland-referendum-who-voted-h...
Arguing with 'boomers' is kinda of my stress relief, they [for the most part] are all so fucked in the head and narcissistic it is mind numbing.
I am what they call a Boomer. And i AGREE with everything you say. Problem is priveldge does not breed insight. Witness Wall Street and DC and City of London and the friggin Queen.
Beam me up.
And generations buried the guilt??? by spoiling a generation of psychopaths who have not one neuron that fires outside selfish, And then we got pontificators like Cog D who write treastises and call it insight.
Renewable says:
Bullshit kids, the cold hard fucking truth is, there sure as fuck wasn't enough ballot stuffing to account for the lose this bad!!
Put the blame squarely where it belongs: on all the folks who didn't vote.
For this election alone, the voting age was reduced. There were plenty of votes to pass this referendum.
Too many kidz sat it out at home, that's all. That's what happens when you don't vote... you get Obama in the US, and no freedom in Scotland.
Those counting the votes seem to be older - Hmmmmmm?
Were they promised the Ebola cure?
Hahahaha.
The old woman in the video clip appears to be going through routine motions. Sometimes paper gets put where it shouldn't be, and other times it's exactly where it should be.
This video shows no conclusive evidence of rigging.. just an eldery ballot worker sorting paper. Doesn't mean rigging occured. Doesn't not mean rigging occured, either.
The more interesting story here is the young vs. old chasm.
No, the interesting story here is the banality of Evil.
That lady is like 50. Not exactly an Alzheimers patient. That was:
"Oh look at all these yeses piling up. Let's see we have one, two, oh heres one and let's put these other two in the no pile.
Was that Stalin?
It sounds like a lot of "sour grapes" from the "Yes'ers", but like I said in another post... TPTB are NOT going to let their power slip from their greedy grasp by a mere technicality such as a free election. Only armed insurrections and total revolution will extract the vampire squids from our throats, folks... nothing less.
Sounds extreme, but it's a law of nature. The aggressor sets the rules whether we like it or not. Obviously, we are helpless against financial suffocation and thus, vote fraud... so only force will bring about real change for the betterment of all mankind.
While I do agree with you that violence is the end to the whole charade, there are ways to force TPTB's hand.
Lots of people on here talk about "stop paying for your enslavement", and that is a good attitude, but it is in-actionable to most. I have had success with the following argument.
1. If money is power (fiat holders call the shots), why do we spend it so frivolously on the whole middle-class lifestyle?
2. Disengage the thieves' economy on all non-essential functions. (You need to eat and pay your rent, but cancel your netflix, stop going out to eat, no new car, etc)
3. Deploy your capital today on solutions for tomorrow that require no dollar inputs. (A garden is a good example, a few bucks today and some labor will net you dollar-free food)
4. Spend your new-found free time with loved ones / pursue goals to improve the quality of your life.
If everyone goes on a GENERAL BOYCOTT, companies will start going bust. Consumer spending is the last thread holding the curtain up. Once companies start going bankrupt either TPTB will step it up, revealing the emperor has no clothes, or global economy falls down and we can rebuild. Either way, the TV-landers won't be able to ignore A.) Laws forcing you to buy, B.) Full-bore police state, or C.) Broken supply chains.
I totally agree with your assessment, Disengage. And to be honest, I practice all four of the tenets you described above. However, (not to sound like a prudish snob) I simply do not believe that the broad masses have the discipline nor resolve to make much of a dent in the existing corrupt power structure using your four commandments. How then, you might ask, can any kind of "revolution" come about with such complacency amongst the sheeple? Greater suffering will bring about the needed change. Again, this is a proven historical law of human nature. When it comes, we mustn't allow another cycle of private usury to replace the old. THIS must be the principal aim of any revolutionary leadership.
The probelm is WE ALL work for/with those companies so WE ALL SUFFER in the process. Or do we go on national welfare as an entire nation?
Worse still....we are are part of the corruption, knowing that to end this Ponzi scheme will likely mean the end of everything we value. We will never be free until we have nothing to lose. Who will sacrifice it all for their freedom, much less anyone else's? And if your idea of suffering is this world, one in which our ultimate dreams are not fulfilled, then you are a utopian, who will burn the world down for your ideals, just like every other deranged tyrant has done.
I'm still debating the question of whether this is hell and you are all demons.
Bury the money where it becomes worth less?
Leave it in the bank where it becomes worth less?
Buy PM’s where it becomes worth less?
We did a general boycott on General Motors, what happened?
Maybe this is why they are letting Mexicans flood into Texas? You dilute the population with gov hungry zombies you swing the vote quite a bit.
"A garden is a good example, a few bucks today and some labor will net you dollar-free food"
Not so easy to starve the beast. I easily spend at least $30 each year on seed, slips, and sets. The whole point of this is to not have to eat Monsanto's garbage or all the synthetic crap used by big ag. So, fish fertilizer is $20/gal. Actinove (ever get blight on tomatoes?) is $1/oz. Neem oil is like $8/pint. Want to irrigate with rainwater? $100 for a tank. Another $150 for pump, solar panel, and storage battery. $50 for drip fittings. Another $50 for misc. plumbing to get it there. $10-20 each for timers. $1/ft for lumber to make the raised beds. $30-40/scoop for compost. I cut free bamboo for trellises, but then it took another $10 in hardware to keep it from blowing over in a storm. Admittedly I have mixed capital and current expenditures here (but so does government accounting), and not all of this will recur each year. But a lot of it does. Don't forget breakage and maintenance. Bottom line is a gardener looking for free food will starve to death.
Exactly. With oil at stake, I KNEW with 100% certainty how this "vote" would turn out. This was the most rigged election since the 2012 presidential election.
I think you mean, Republican 2012 Primary Election.
It matters not who votes but who sorts the Yes votes into the No votes pile.
It's pretty much all fucking bullshit...all of it.
No surprise that it went on. They had to make up quite a few points so no surprise it was happening in plain view.
i saw that video and i knew it would get posted on zerohedge.
what a bunch of bullshit. all voting is rigged. the yes supporters failed to rig the votes in their favor.
of COURSE THE FUCKIGN POLLS ARE RIGGED . if the 'yes' supporters failed to rig the polls in their favor that is their own stupid fucking faults.
go ahead and riot and complain like little bitches now. see what that will get you. it won't get you a revolution. it will get you goon squads.
the only way the 'revolution' will happen is with an organized civil war like that in ukraine that was portratyed as a 'popular' rebellion.
sure 50% of the people can support a 'rebellion' but without organized backers------how will they succeed? do you think russia will back them? not with weapons. not with meaningful support. and probably not at all in any meaningful way.
stop being a little child and get some machivelli clausewitz up in your shit.
Sucks to be disarmed slaves, eh?
What they did was separate the youth from the elderly, with the equivalent of a razor blade.
This is what they are trying to do in the US also.
This is going to be the global spark that ignites the shitstorm of anti criminal government movements, the like which we have not ever seen.
This is not good Maverick, Not Good..
Divide and conquer. Young eating the old, rich eating the poor. People have sold their souls for wealth and security and having done such, will fight to the end to keep it. The young are coming on line willing doing the same. they will be marshalled to indict anyone who dares claim entitlement based on prior contributions, while being told it is politically incorrect to even suggest that a minority, an immigrant, a sexually "oppressed", or an avid daytime drama enthusiast be denied would be a sure sign of racism and/or intolerance and hatred.
Who are all these people selling their souls?
I marked mine down to $1.50 at a yard sale this weekend and nobody wanted it.
A broken George Foreman grill brought in $2.50.
In Revelation Chapter 18 there is a list of 28 things that are bought and sold by Babylon. The list reads from the most valuable to the least. The most valuable item is gold. The least is the "souls of men".
So, I guess you're on to something.
You've got it backwards.
The old are eating the young.
They've leveraged the earnings of the next several generations in order to support their disgusting greedy lifestyles.
FUCK YOU, OLD PEOPLE. FUCK YOU, BABY BOOMERS. FUCK YOU, 'GREATEST GENERATION'.
STOP SELLING YOUR PROGENY INTO DEBT SLAVERY IN ORDER TO FUND YOUR GREEDY, CONSEQUENCE-FREE LIFE.
STOP MAKING THE YOUNG PEOPLE PAY FOR YOUR AVARICE AND GREED!!
It's not my debt, and I refuse to pay for it. I'll die first.
PAY YOUR OWN DEBT, YOU EVIL GREEDY FUCKERS!
We need revolution everywhere. Kill all progressives, feminists and leftists.
They all fall under the umbrella term "liberal". They keep trying to hide what they are. By the way, 99% of the republican party is made up of liberals too. All of academia and most of the judiciary are liberal as well. Is it any wonder we're free falling as a nation while these liberal f'heads act like everything is grand?
friendly amendment:
Media and Bankers.
I'd actually like to see the media up against the wall first. Seems more fitting to mow down those that are specifically supposed to hold gov to account. Thise filthy choades! Camera men last to the wall so they can continue capturing the occasion.
We need revolution everywhere. Kill all progressives, feminists and leftists.
Kinda funny you say that...Most of the YES voters were very left wing. The people you would kill would be the people who started the referendum.
It was either vote rigging or having to coming over hadrains wall. With tanks
Right?
Diebold bitches. It's whats for dinner.
Sounds like US elrctions 2008, 2012.
Well after listening to that video, I understand why they thought about leaving the UK. When you do not even speak the same language within a country, I guess independence movements gain traction. ;-)
Seriously? NO
i'm getting sick to my stomach.
wow, I need to invest in Alcoa considering how big and how many tin foil hats you clowns wear.
its an inside job it was fake it was stolen Diebold, blah blah blah blah
welcome to the machine
Nearly a quarter of Americans, 23.9%, said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state leaving the United States and forming its own country, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll taken between August 23 and September 16 released Friday.
Support for secession was weakest in the northeast and strongest in the southwest. It cut across party lines, though Republicans (29.7%) are somewhat more keen on the idea than Democrats (21%). A majority, 53.3%, said they strongly opposed or tended to oppose the idea.
https://time.com/3404009/american-secession-scotland/
The theory with Texas is that state ratification in Congress was never completed, which if true opens a whole can of worms vs. an established state or municipality wanting to withdraw from the US.
Of course, the Income Tax Amendment (16th Amendment) was passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913, but supposedly never fully ratified.
1913 was a very unlucky year for the United States, and over the decades the world.
Oh, and 1913 adds up to 14, and 14=7+7.
Very unlucky for mankind.
The whole thing was settled when these united States became The United States under the auspices of Good ole Abe.
Then to ensure states didn't go back to their bad ways they eliminated the Militia and State participation in the General government.
Today, I know of no state perpared economically, monetarily or militarily to leave this forced union.
11 Southern states legally and lawfully voted in legislative sessions to leave the Union. The whole affair was one of the most legal operations ever conducted.
Crimea voted to leave Ukraine by an overwhelming margin, in one of the most transparent and legal votng procedures ever recorded.
Novorossiya (Donetsk and Luhansk) voted overwhelmngly in a lawfully conducted referendum to leave Ukraine.
If Rusia had not immediately anexed Crimea, it would be suffering its share of war, along with Novorossiya. I say this ironically, but Scotland should be glad the voting was rigged to NO. If the YESes had won, Scotland would be at war with London today.
"Oh, and 1913 adds up to 14, and 14=7+7.
Very unlucky for mankind."
Where else other than ZH would we get such cogent and useful analysis.
GLP
I'd be the first to sign for it. The NE liberals and west coast liberals can go fuck themselves. They can take Chicago and Minnesota too.
They can disarm themselves while their daughters get gang raped by MS-13 and zeta gang members and sons get kileld or used as mules, teach their kids fisting classes in 6th grade while the Asians are taking pre-calculus, and they can try to tax whatever business was stupid enough to stay into utter oblivion. They deserve what is coming.
@trader1 - who the fuck cares what Americans "strongly support" or not when such a small percentage of Americans ever vote for anything?
Freedom isn't isn't free. You have to break some eggs...
... at the roots of a tree. Something like that.
And by "eggs" you mean "liberals"
"Freedom isn't isn't free. You have to break some eggs..."
Just exactly like abortion.
Abortion cannot be understood without a deep comprehension of Eugenics.
Ebola is just another step, as is AIDS.
NEVER Under estimate the PTB.
Rigged or Not, the scum will do what the scum will do.
USS Liberty, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, RFK, MLK, OKlahoma City, Waco, 9-11, Paul Wellstone, Boston Marathon, Sandy Hoax, Aurora. And THESE are just some of the Black Arts that have happened in MY lifetime.
ALL of the crimes traced right back to the Satanists in Power.
You missed 3 Mile Island. Energy cartel at its finest.
WIPP is still pumping out plutonium, the kids at Hanford are being born with their spines and brains outside their bodies, and there's that nuclear waste landfill fire in St. Louis that'll burn for thousands of years, blowing all across the East Coast.
Other than that . . .
Evil always loses - it takes time but it is not stable.
No, sometimes Evil does win. It's how we perceive our own lives that makes the difference.
No, Evil always loses, because it always turns against the caster.
Evil people have nothing but victims and other sociopaths in their lives - NO FRIENDS, NO LOVE, NO PEACE, NO HAPPINESS, NO SYMBIOSIS.
Evil people are very good at mastering appearances, so they hide their misery quite well, but all of the true elites were tortured as children (ex: http://svalispeaks.com/) so they can become usable by the system.
Wanna be happy? Don't be evil and stay the FUCK away from twisted blue-blooded 'elites' and their machinations.
Hale Boggs, Larry McDonald, Barry Seal and most folks involved with running drugs for GH Bush to Slick Willy in Mena, everyone who ever told the truth about the Clintons, etc....
God bless Barry Seal.
Does a Bear shit in the woods?
Does the pope protect pedophiles?
Google 'Canadian Holocaust'. There are a lot of people in high places protecting themselves from pedophile charges.
Well, dig enough and you'll find some have been convicted, just not imprisoned due to diplomatic immunity. Hard to imprison a Head of State.
when will people realize their votes don't matter
when they hear it on MSM, til then its just CT
Simply the more plugged into the financial matrix one is the less likely they will vote to be removed from it even if it means enslaving everyone else in the process.
This referendum should clearly show that. That is why the owners weren't sweating it as long as the turnout was high enough since the vote should break close to the actual population breakdown of the above and below threshold of personal pain for voluntarily unplugging.
The owners ran the numbers ahead of time and knew the likely outcome just a matter of getting the right amount of people to the polls to not skew the results against the predetermined outcome they wanted. They didn't have to rig shit. Russians pulled this same gambit with Crimea so no crying foul here.
If it comes to it in America you are going to have to liquidate a shitload of baby boomers to have a chance at winning at the ballot box.
And Goldman Sachs is betting just on that.
http://pension360.org/wall-street-securitizes-pension-liabilities-to-cre...
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Sovereign wealth funds, educational endowments and ultrahigh-net-worth individuals are the target investors for longevity derivatives, which package the risk that retirees drawing annuities will outlive actuarial expectations.
The roots of this nascent market date back to 2006, when small monoline insurance companies such as U.K.-based Lucida (purchased by Legal & General in June 2013) and Paternoster (bought by Goldman Sachs Group in 2011) began taking longevity risk off European pension funds through bulk annuity buyouts.
These buyouts entail a company selling pension assets earmarked for all or some of its plan participants. The assets are converted to annuities that the sponsor can keep on its books or off-load to the insurer.
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You know what they are up to including Lucida/Legal & General. They are expecting just this outburst and herding the baby boomers into a long position while positioning on the short side... You know what comes next once enough baby boomers been led into the slaughter pen.
Freedom
from the boomers I mean
Well this BabyBoomer didn't vote for any of this sh!t. In fact I have given up voting as it's obviously manipulated to create a certain outcome. It's also great for factionalism. You talk of the boomers voting for their pensions but don't mention the younger millennials voting for Obamacare and all the other free sh!t... and were talking about cry babies who are capable of working,,, not grandma's in wheel chairs.
This boomer is 65 and still working. Have worked since I was 14. Nothing I own was paid for by someone else. I will pay a 5 figure tax payment this year so don't cry about boomers not contributing. Many still are out of necessity. As for liquidating this boomer, you best bring a lunch.
Simply the more plugged into the financial matrix one is the less likely they will vote to be removed from it... What does that statement mean. Entitlements are entitlements whether you worked for them or not. A pension is an entitlement just like foodstamps. The fact of the matter is you don't own it they do and they pay it to you on their terms when it is in their system. You contribute to your financial dependence and slavery is the bottom line if someone else can destroy it's value or cut off your ability to access it at whim. That is how owners own you. It don't matter how fucking hard you work or how much of a sponge on the system you are if they control the entitlements.
That is plain bad planning period now is it.
Did I even mention entitlements? Did you even read my post? Maybe a comprehension problem? I know the schools are bad these day so your forgiven. I haven't received any entitlements. I'm still paying for your and my generations. When I was younger I was advised to save money and the interest on that money would offset my meager pension your so worried about. Well look around. 0% interest. An average of 8% inflation. And Government is doing everthing it can to get citizens to spend, spend, spend. They lied. The 401k is a lie, The IRA is a lie. Both are a vehicle to get control of your earnings. And it's not my generations fault they off shored the production and brought in cheap labor. You think we were for that? Go back and look at the stats as to how many was for and against NAFTA, CAFTA etc.
Theres a big difference in perspective here too. The crybaby generation want their entitlements for free and now. The elders at least paid their way even if partially and waited. You seem to avoid that discussion.
And I just love how the complainers want to starve grandma but have no problems with the bankster bailouts, the federal reserve sucking you dry, the military draining you with all those wars, money that would probably pay the boomers and the younger generation the social security you hate so much a hundred or more years. Heck we can't even afford a decent space program, were so busy building the tools of war.
Now I agree there is a problem but a problem that arises from government allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry on the dole who has a stubbed toe. Over a hundred million working age amerikans are on the dole these days and your worried about grandma and gramps. This will have to stop and it will be ugly.
Now since SS is a pay as you go system I gladly paid for those older people you wish liquidated. Maybe even paid for some of your families elders. (Are they to be liquidated too?) And I am still paying. Get that... Still paying. AND I DON'T MIND because someone paid for my parents and grandparents.
Do you posses any logic and reason? I do not even know where to begin shooting down your idiotic arguments here. So riddle me this....Who birthed and [supposedly] raised this generation of whiners? Why is it all boomers want to blame the yournger generation without looking in the mirror as to whom raised these kids, do you think kids are born fully functional with their own belief system from birth? Its like the pit bull owner who negelcts and mistreats their dog and then says "I have no idea why he's a bad dog"
So may ad hominems in your post. In the end someone has to accept culpabilityfor this shitshow of a world, but according to your logic its the youngsters fault, I mean it couldn't possibly be the elders, no they were perfect</sarc>
FUCK YOU.
I'M NOT PAYING YOUR DEBT, YOU MORALLY BANKRUPT HEATHEN.
"Social security is a pay as you go system."
Stupid, deluded fool! Social security is nothing more than a tax. The SS system was implemented when the government put all the citizens up as collateral against the debt. They give you stupid old people money so you won't revolt, you brain-addled slave!
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
I'M NOT PAYING YOUR DEBT, YOU MORALLY BANKRUPT HEATHEN.
You're right....we're gonna bill your grandkids for it.
How else do you think we could get away with this crap?
Thanks for replying since your response is typical of the baby boomer attitude. It is always about you and how it is everyone else's fault but your own. Did I mention you personally, did you bother to read my initial statement, did you bother to actually read anything except to respond like a giant meon light going me ME me ME me ME ME.
So working hard to keep the chains on is somehow virtuous and it is everyone else's fault who knows better and are somehow the problem for not playing the game. Blaming the FSA when the system incentivizes nurturing, people not capable of critically thinking and or capable of independence becoming dependent on the government cheese is not the problem it is a symptom. Most of them where already fucked 10 ways to Sunday and had no chance of succeeding anyways independent or not since the system is stacked against that outcome unless they play the rigged game.