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Was Scottish Vote Rigging Caught On Tape?
Given the pre-vote polls and 300 years of historical resentment, many were somewhat surprised at the overwhelming "No" vote in last night's Scottish Independence referendum. While we now know that the vote broke very cleanly between old ("no") and young ("yes") Scots, the following clip suggests the possibility that more was afoot than that. As the commentator blasts, "Busted! Absolutely busted!" You decide...
As Martin Armstrong rages, Is anything real anymore...
I have communicated directly with some Scots. I spoke to an 18 year segment to get a perspective of the youth. They used the word that they wanted a “REVOLUTION” and feel very betrayed by what they called the over “65″ crowd. This is what our model has been warning about and why this is important. Unfunded liabilities are around the global as populations enter the retirement age of the baby-boomers worldwide – post-World War II surge in births. The birth rate and marriage rate has been declining, efforts are building around the globe to encourage women to have children. In Britain, the NHS is funding a sperm bank for lesbians.Just for starters, Germany, Japan, Russia, and Taiwan are paying women to have children and the list keeps going. Why? What happened to over population? The older generation is dying off and the social programs are gauging the younger generation causing taxation to rise and the youth cannot find work.
David Cameron basically said reading between the lines – the younger generation lost and their fate is now settled “for a generation.” This degree of arrogance is not going to be helpful. Governments will not reform and that brings us only to the bring of our right civil unrest that will rip the systems apart. No one in charge will address the long-term. They are only concerned about one vote at a time.
Now the recriminations. There is a rising tide among the YES camp that view the Scottish vote was rigged. There are videos and photographs emerging calling the votes rigged. There is special focus on Dundee where photos are circulating on Twitter and Facebook demonstrating the rigging of the election. The polling stations also accused were directly in Edinburgh. This will be like Bush stealing the election in the USA and it will linger causing tremendous resentment in Britain. The whole of Europe needed the Scottish NO vote. Since Brussels rigged the Italian elections, we cannot rule out their involvement behind the scenes yet in Scotland. This has led to so many in Scotland feeling they have been cheated and reduced to second class slaves of London and Brussels.
International Business Times is reporting the uproar. We all have to be deeply concern given the fact that in Europe, the Commission is a dictatorship. The people can vote for a minister to be in Brussels, but the Commission does not have to abide by whatever the people want anyway. What must be understood is this is now about maintaining Brussels.They are paying themselves outrageous amounts of money for absolutely nothing. Just one EU Commissioner will get €400,000 for not working as reported by the Telegraph.
The EU Commission was threatened by Scotland because if they won their independence, the contagion would have engulfed all of Europe and that would cost jobs in Brussels. This is not about what is good for Europe, it is what is now good for the politicians to keep their huge salaries.
The most interesting evidence of DISTRUST is the capital movement. One would expect the Euro and the pound to rally with the threat of separatism dead. Instead, The pound rallied moderately but not the Euro. Capital is clearly aware that the game is still afoot.
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Stop posting my s**t. You're trying to be me. 1949 was a good year.
Food stamp system goes out all across New York.
Just wait, it's coming.
The free shit army would be in ful effect. Long Island would be a blood bath. Just keep in mind there are plenty of 2nd ammendment "folks" in Suffolk county probably just as many as the free shitters.
Another 'test'.
Anyone here have law enforcement friends? Will there be any kind of mobilization when this occurs? Didn't work so well last time.
We will see.
Supposedly it is a 12 hour window from midnight to noon and they are informing everyone ahead of time. Will be interesting to see if it is extended for any reason and brought back online right as things get tense.
Did you really expect a free and fair election?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru79UKlZE_k
I think we all knew here how this vote would turn out...the empire had one if it's crown jewel "pun intended" assets at stake with their holding in Scotland as a resource rich and taxable base of peasants...as it's been for centuries...the slavery will continue under a different name..."Doing your share"
Yeah but we had hoped that this one time...
Evidence of "YES" votes going into the "NO" pile:
http://t.co/rH8fp1C0LS
This is what happens when you get the government to count their own votes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47tXtN0K0Q
Well I am shocked. Shocked I say.
/s
Thats exactly how the voting machines work here in the States! Only it much better watching how its done live. Just right out in the open now.
Reminds me of Philly's 59 precinct votes in 2012 : Obama 19,605 / Romney zero
Heh heh....there you go!
Satans world at work. Shit, the votes were rigged in Philly last go around for Prezship.
christ, how come i just *knew* this sensationalist site would promote this garbage to its own story?
a) the vote was arranged by the scottish government - NOT westminster; first minister is Alex Salmond.
b) all votes were repeatedly counted. by different people.
c) it was a public vote. anyone could have entered and watched for themselves. hell, all the major parties had vounteers there. the SNP did NOT report any fraud.
d) the counters have a reputation. they're not just hauled off the street.
e) if she was going to rig it, she could have done so to start with. this looks more like fixing an issue as you go along. humans aren't perfect, you know - we do make mistakes now and then.
e) finally - why do everyone think... well, no, how come everyone "KNOW" that IF a referendum which is ARRANGED by the SNP - is the target of fraud - why would this fraud not benefit the 'Yes' side rather than no?
christ, this is so fucking retarded. but it resonates with the click bait business plan of ZH.
Someone had their kool-aid today. The system needs to appear legit. Go to a quiet place, close your eyes, and listen to Hotel California.
Good one!
d) the counters have a reputation. they're not just hauled off the street.
Maybe they should be.
Inmates would make better counters than bribed shitheads.
It may only come down to a moot point, the amount of fraud if any.
It's a no brainer to think that the status quo, i.e. the dependent class winning out over the other. It always will when it comes to a vote, and that is what is inherently wrong with majority rule, or representative rule.
Once the public realizes it can vote to itself what it will not, can not, and would prefer not to do themselves. democracy sinks into communism.
Yep. Once you realize that a middle school educated, single mother of four's vote counts the same as a combat veteran's, that a crackhead counts the same as a small businessman, you pretty much have to give up on democracy.
Appreciate your opinion which means nothing without information...got anything..
Click bait? Is that what the girl in you avatar is running through her hair?
Yes yes...she just made a mistake...All an innocent accident...Nothing to see here...move along now. .were all in good hands....espcially those of us who work for the system...
If there is evidence of fraud it really doesn't matter if the vote would have gone to yes or no. The point is there appears to be evidence of fraud so that automatically makes the entire vote, the entire system, suspect.
I agree with EscapeKey. It's unlikely this was systemic vote rigging, and even if it was on the part of 1 person it's unlikely to have had an effect on the result. The whole system is set up to make it easy for anyone to see rigging going on.
Simpler truth is Scots are sheep. I am Scottish so I know what I'm talking about here. You see there has been over the last couple of hundred years a Scottish "diaspora", All the Scots with a bit of brains and gumption got up and left, leaving the dregs behind. The single best thing you can do is leave them to it and do business with the Irish instead. They at least have some balls.
BTW, on that note, I finished my last bottle of single malt Scotch on Thursday evening. I'll be buying Irish instead in future. Recommend you do the same.
although I was hoping for Yes, in many ways Scotland as part of the UK is freer than Ireland as part of the Eurozone. At least Scottish MPs in London have real influence. Irish MPs (TDs) are beholden to the European Commission/ECB diktats on most things now.
No such thing as Irish scotch.
Just saying...
I agree as well. If you don't like the result, don't be an arrogant prick and assume it's fraud. Maybe Scotts had good reasons to vote no.
Ask yourself, what fucking business is it of yours how they voted, or what they want out of life? If you are an american, let's see you organize secession for your own fucking state. Hell no, you wouldn't have the balls. The majority of you cock suckers collect welfare or have a gov job. You would vote no in the US.
+1 EscapeKey, the whole article is... retarded
the "Italian Election Rigging" story around Berlusconi as supporting substory and link to old article is particularly retarded. There was no frigging election, only a government crisis and reshuffle, with Silvio ousted by parliamentary procedure. That the Germans, the French and others were pushing... well, this was nothing new. It's called politics. The thing is, he lost his majority in Parliament, and if you do that, you lose the Prime Minister seat. That simple, and the rules of the system to boot
paper ballots, old style, are the only serious voting system. this referendum was done so by the Scottish gov, and no *serious* evidence of irregularities has been presented
but I find it interesting how now 30 million diaspora Scots are egged against the EU, the same club to which the UK belongs, and to which the 5 million Scots living there want to continue to belong, even if the English don't
Rupert's British Empire's crowd? Or just click-bait? Or just lulz...
LOL, get this one, guys: "YOUR VOTE MATTERS".
Man that's a knee slapper right there, that never gets old.
Now, question is... just exactly what are all these outraged younglings going to do about it?
My money is on "Take the DMT that I bought with my 10 for 20 government dole foodstamps and go clubbing tonight wearing chemlight bracelets".
In a true constitutional republic like we are supposed to have your vote shouldn't matter anyway. There is really nothing of importance you can vote for except for your local representatives because the constitution is supposed to protect you from just about every single thing we vote on today.
I guess you don't even need Diebold or hanging chads.
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin
uhhhh...not to be a Debbie Downer. But how does he know those were yes votes?
And stupid old Scotty fucks who listened to Gordon Brown rather than William Wallace, and voted NO, deserve their heads examined and their meds increased.
you know that old saw about age and treachery?
yeah, that.
And the wonderful Americans continuing to vote for their bought and paid for puppets.
This is the first coronary to: "I care not how many votes are cast, but only who counts the votes".
Perhaps one of the clearest examples yet of the saying "He who casts the vote decides nothing, he who counts the vote decides everything."
LF Mayor quote: "LOL, get this one, guys: "YOUR VOTE MATTERS".
Yes it does. To the Powers That Be. To the whore Media. To every PR agency. To the MIC.
Votes matter so nothing gets too changed.
Your vote matters so long as the placebo works, brother. The day they don't believe, well, they used to call that bastille day. Or Athens, Tennessee.
Again, cost and consequences.
Nuevo Hippy trash culture younglings upset == one weekend drug/club session and outrage is mitigated.
Versus Old Retireees with money and knowlege of HOW to fuck things up upset == these people are retired, they have time and nothing to lose, don't piss them.
Did anyone seriously think that the powers-that-be were going let this thing fly?
With 1/2 of Scotland wanting independence, I fully expect the situation to get much more tenuous. The demographics and shitty global economy are perfectly aligned for future civil unrest.
The Scotts will be given their independence about the same time the Constitution is restored to the US and the Federal Reserve is abolished.
In other words, it will not be permitted.
If we face the "facts", it was 55 to 45. I like how the winners consider this settled. Umm, 45% aren't happy and I don't think that anything is going to improve in the next year or years to improve that.
David Cameron says this vote decides the matter for the next generation, so I guess those 45% of Scots voters are just not going to be taken into account.
"If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it." Mark Twain
I've said this before, when bullets rain down on the bureaucrats. The message will be reminded that they work for us, not the other way around.
A public servant is a long forgotten career in representing the people. It only takes a half dozen dead politicians to resonate reevaluating their job scope.
;#)
Here's a better version of the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg
So sad, why do this people believe they need to vote to leave a body politic? vote with your ACTIONS! Do not participate in their system. So no thank you to forms , registrations, applications, etc...
much better video
Vote Being Rigged!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg
Thanks Tony. They must have shipped that piece of slime in from Philly.
Fucking disgraceful!
Watching that prat fill out ballots while sitting there was extra fun.
I've seen all that I need to.
Adding all 7 age groups for = 353/7 = 50.6%
Adding all 7 age groups against = 322/7 = 46%
Where is the 4.6%?
Obviously this is stretching it but there is an anomaly.
Illegal hispanic immigrants that dodged the last census, probably.
Of course it was rigged. That's why they love these "tight" elections. If you go and shift too many it's obvious. If you shift a few percent though... even when caught red handed it can be claimed to have been a minor overlook and not enough to change the results. Even a "victory" here and there in proving the case can be downplayed as being a "sore loser".
I believe nothing anymore.
Dude just wanted his rug back
You can believe in the sound your firearm makes as you discharge it, plus the sound your enemy makes as the corpse hits the deck.
Does anybody wonder why we still vote using either crazy weird electronic booths or by paper?
I mean, ffs, we could vote using twitter nowadays, and have it done in mere seconds flat. No counting, just put in your ss# and walla done.
Voilà. Not walla.
It's French for 'there it is.'
Now that i think about it, they should make a CAPTCHA where you have to spell voilà correctly for your vote to count.
Since 1968, this is how we got a "crook", twice... a peanut farmer....a washed up movie actor who was "bozo", twice...a slick Arkansas hillbilly, twice... a born again Christian, ex coke head, ex drunk, draft dodger twice...and a unknown, communist, criminal from Chicago, by way of Kenya, twice....nuff said.
We live in a fraud backed by force...as it always has been in the world
Freedom and unicorns everywhere. Good times.
Voting Friends ask me WHY I do Not vote?
I tell them it is like choosing between Arsenic and Strychnine poison when you really prefer something healthier.
Example: MIC-Cain vs Obama
"Is anything real anymore..."
Depends on what your version of "real" is..........
Hell that's nothing. When Ron Paul was running Carl Rove took entire cities of Ron Paul votes away in vans. Nobody cares. Everybody is sick of democracy and needs a revolution. You can only receive so much welfare before you can't take it any longer.
I lived with an RP precinct captain. At least a dozen like minded of us all went out and voted for RP... the final count was 1 vote for him in our precinct.
You mutinous treacherous TWO-BOB fucks. Eastern Ukraine will look like a Sunday fucking Picnic when the implications of this RIGGED result is known.
Lucky for them since they own the mainstream media the cat will never get out of the bag.
And the polsters
I`ve never seen subjects vote themselves freedom.
"I care not who casts the votes, but only who counts them"
Some evil sack of shit a long time ago
sheep don't have the fortitude to do what's necessary to make sure vote rigging does not occur
The older boomer generation voting for their own self interest and not for the future well being of society. I'm not shocked by this, they've been doing it for a long time now, which is why we are in big trouble. The younger generation is getting handed a shit sandwich and a broken key to the city right as the boomer keels over from a clogged artery due to massive amounts of Doritos, triple cheese burgers, and beer while layering on a thick coat of low testosterone gel.
my god that is so poetic and true,(shedding tear)
I can't imagin government workers voting against their self interest either.
The problem lies in trust of a system designed by criminal and useful-idiot classes to fail. The solution is a lesson that neither the Scots nor Irish never learned. Every man on the planet has the power to redress any grievance that could be named: however, if that man is white of skin, he has declared and possesses that power; if he is non-white, he only possesses it. And, in any case, none of them knows he possesses this power.
It is the power employed by American Founders to carry off their Revolution; a power they learned from men such as John Elliot, John Hampden, John Pym… names completely unknown to modern generations – for all practical purposes.
So, why are these men unknown today? John Elliot, for example, authored a resolution that declared the imposition or collection of taxes without the consent of those taxed was a capital offense; the measure was passed by the English House of Commons. This alarmed the king so much that he dissolved parliament before the House of Lords could act on it; then arrested several members of parliament, Elliot included (and he died while imprisoned).
A dozen years later, Elliot rose from the grave, of sorts, as parliament used his resolution to take down judges and clergy, governor and kings who preached the divine right of kings and thot they could lay taxes without consent of those taxed.
Such is the legacy possessed, and forgotten, by Americans and Englishmen, and never known by Scots and Irish.
And those resolutions amounted to exactly jack shit. Still trying to change a system using the system which ends in what we've just seen.
Bupkis. Jackshit.
And ease up on the Irish. They've killed their fair share of trifling Brits.
There are two things that work.
Armed revolt (America and Ireland)
Embarrassment (India)
The only way to make it work is to keep doing it every time they pop their heads up out of thier holes every 50 yrs or so. And outlaw the money changers.
Of course both sides will pull the usual ballot box stuffing, cemetary address voting shenanigans. If they didn't I would be shocked since it has always been part of the game referendums or not. The reality is if both sides rigged 100 votes each it becomes a wash and a nonissue on the unrigged votes.
That is real question did the rigging balance out and if it didn't was the rigged inequality enough to swing the outcome. That usually is a nonissue except in the case of close votes then every inequal rigged vote counts then. That is something that if it gets answered won't be forthcoming for a few days/weeks.
Sorry Scots, but judging by this video clip, you're not nearly as smart or street-smart as you purport to be: WHO in the right (or left) mind would have designed such a bullshit system of paper-shuffling? Are you pathologically gullible, or just 'simple'?
The PROPER way is to Cast your vote into separate Yes and No containers (all under supervision), and then to have multiple Yes and No witnesses watch the count.
Alternatively, if you want to get REALLY clever and think outside the Box, you have people cast 1 Pound coins or 5 Pound Notes into boxes, and have MONEY MACHINES count the fucking money. No human fudging or sleight-of-hand, no Diebold, no Die Hard. Just Money Counting Machines. Sheesh!
Coins of different sizes would be cheaper
Being Scotland, they could use 1p and 2p coins, 1p for Yes and 2p for No. Since they are Scots, the Yes will undoubtedly win and by a wide margin.
Well they still seem smarter than the US which has little to no paper record. It's all done with smoke and mirrors by software and hardware owned and controlled by foreigners or dual citizens in private companies that aren't accountable to the public to disclose their intellectual property.
MI6 probably implanted perhaps couple of hundred turncoats to rig votes, that is why Westminster was relax about the whole thing... they should recount all the votes, it still time to turn the shit around... I bet ya they are getting ready to burn the votes asap
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-inde...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/19/scottish-referendum-vote-rigg...
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/19/scottish-referendum-vote-coun...
WTF
Ask Eastern Ukraine how it works... it takes more then casting a ballot.
We live in "The Truman Show"...nothing is what it seems.
You decide? What is this a FOX News affiliate?
How many examples does someone need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9kE4YHwdw
Slavery in its best form as George Orwell puts it "Freedom is Slavery."
This is an example of "Working as Intended".
Fear not. The empty suit David Cameron has now emphatically promised a new "settlement" for Scotland and indeed England. Red Ed Miliband has promised a constitutional something.or.other starting end 2015.
The one thing everyone can be 100% sure about is that the British people will not be consulted and there will be no reduction in the size, scope and power of government. That is not on the cards. IOW: nothung much will change. If anything, the overall size of government will increase because devolving powers will need more apparatchiks to run things.
There will be nothing.
It will be tied up in reports, meetings and committees and reviews and special commissions. These people are professionals and they are very well paid by their employers. Any substantive reforms will be kicked well and truly into the long grass and replace by some meaningless pap. It's why they exist.
Exactly so.
What Britain really needs is a proper written Constitution where the ultimate power lies with "the people". No chance of that ever happenig without a revolution and a few hangings.
Read a document like that once. It's laying around here somewhere.
Really doesn't amount to much if you don't actually enforce it.
It is proven to piss off Westminister though. At least for a while.
The many debates I've had on this subject accept the need for ongoing supervision of the Constitution a by non-political body on behalf of the people. Penalties for violation would be serious.
The sad thing is, if all the people that voted "yes" simply lived their lives as if they won the vote, there would be nothing the "no" people could do to stop them. Same thing goes for the rest of the world.
Trying to use government force (voting) to legislate your way into freedom has never worked and will never work, no matter which way the vote swings. It's all simply hand raising, begging your masters for a few crumbs from the table after they've gorged themselves on the fruits of your labor.
It seems we'll never learn.
A very interesting theory but a tad difficult to practice methinks.
The yes folks are really just haters. "sarc"
Interesting how under democracy the losing half is supposed to put up with the winning half instead of taking matters into their own hands. A 50/50 split in America is a close call, a fun race, a media circus. In the past a 50/50 split would be a reason for war. A split down the middle would be exactly that - a split.
I say to the Scots who voted "yes" - take your pitchforks and drive the other half off your land. Let the Brit-lovers move to Britain and claim the rest of the land for yourselves. That'll be even better than the referendum.
And what's with this pussification of of national pride? What's with the leader resigning?
When did Braveheart become a Quavefart?
Do we have to send you over our American declaration of independence? Do you need to be reminded that if it weren't for Scotts sent over with all the first settlers (by the Virginia company), we'd likely still live under the British Rule here in America?
What the hell happened, you fucking pussies! They tell you "No" is the answer and you're just gonna take that?!
I asked the same myself... however after I had a conversation with another zerohedger about the last brain-drain in Scotland after the vote, before the FULL RETARD mode settling in, someone else reply saying that the brain-drain actually was over, after hundreds of years... it seems that the only ones left were the ones that couldn't get to a boat and emigrate to America a hundred years ago or so... either cripple or retarded were left...so you have it.
sorry for the VERY few good Scots out there that still living in Scotland, by the way Salmond was one.
US Declaration of Independence made reality with French and Spanish money and naval ships. It simply coincided with geopolitical goals in Paris against where Britain was building its naval vessels and Lafayette was a symbol of that French effort to undermine Britain.......just like The Auld Alliance
if they lie about economic numbers (they do), can any .gov be trusted when it comes to a vote that would effect so many in said .gov or those who depend on a cooperative .gov (oligarchs the .01%) say RBS for one example..it is not hard to think that the vote numbers are also lies..but no the british would never rig this election, Ghordius has put his/her stamp of approval the NO's have it.
of course what is ignored is that close to 45% wanted out of the commonwealth..in that there is hope, much like in the USA where 25%(if one accepts poling) would like to do the same from .gov in DC..anything that breaks up monolith .govs is better just because of the inherent fascism any controlling monolith must evolve to. many people are coming to understand the police state is a function of size, not so much systems.
What a load of rubbish. I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, maybe more. But this is just rubbish. There could be a very legitanet reason why they were moved from the pile. As expected, the Yes voters will turn agressive and try to turn the country upside down. Thats what fascists like to do i guess
"There could be a very legitanet reason why they were moved from the pile"
Sure, like a MILLION POUNDS on the bank account, tax free, with compliments Westminster.
...
Huggy in London. You dont know what your talking about. The Yes camp having been singing dancing blowing up balloons and suich like. The troublemakers are the Loyalist/ Orangemen/ Rangers fans. Why dont you come up and find out instead of throwing bricks at people from your comfy armchair.
Huggy in London. You dont know what your talking about. The Yes camp having been singing dancing blowing up balloons and suich like. The troublemakers are the Loyalist/ Orangemen/ Rangers fans. Why dont you come up and find out instead of throwing bricks at people from your comfy armchair.
you call that rigging?????
Just looking at some woman doing repetitive work who got mixed up on 2 votes?? And had a camera on her? On probably on everyone else as well? She fixed her error and put them in the right pile.
Would you prefer Diebold machines?
Just because it didn't go YOUR way you call foul. Man up.
That's what I see as well.. a corrected mistake..
Then you never cheated during exams I guess?
The best method is to make obvious and big movements, for example slowly turning pages in the formula book, where the cheats are inserted.
Ofcourse she moves, as if she would have made a mistake!
So, when do we get to see the Scottish marching down the street while holding Braveheart-style farming implements?
Long live William Wallace! King Long Shanks stole the referendum.
You won't. They're sheep.
Don't talk about thier mistresses like that. Sheep affection is a cultural thing.
I am Scottish and I reject this outcome. That you would call yourself a ~democracy~ is laughable. Lie, cheat, steal, murder if you must, but you will never silence us. We OUTNUMBER you, you rich pricks. You all belong in a dumpster!
Where oh where is Jimmy Carter when you need him to "monitor" an election? Besides, you gonna believe the Queen & Cameron or your lyin' eyes?
www.traderzoo.moibi
He was the first, I think, presidnt who admitted in the media the the US was not a democracy.
Funny how the EU Parliament building is a model of the Tower of Babel...
Dupe. FML.
Voting, referendums etc...is a total nonsense designed to thicken the illusion of choice. You cannot vote for freedom, you can only fight for it.
ALL elections-voting-poling are rigged.
Every fucking thing is a scam.
Freedom cannot be, and never has been, achieved by a vote, or a display.
This is the mistake of many trusting souls from Scotland to the Confederacy.
Freedom is what you have when you refuse to allow others a vote in what you personnally will do or accept.
or. For the plebes... "Freedom is rarely given. It has to be taken."
The Scotish independent vote has historically always been 33%.
It is testament to Alex Salmond that he increased the vote to 45%.
But vote rigging? Don't be such a sore loser.
I proudly voted "no" because we are simply stronger together. Defence, Education, NHS, Financially, Socially, etc.
Need I continue?
(oh and please feel free to down vote me because I am going against the "vote rigger" sheeple trend).
Good for you BeeTee. I think you are wrong to vote No but its your decision. People on here think just because they read Zero Hedge that they are not sheeple but they are wrong.
You voted "No" because you're a sheep; Dumb and afraid.
If voting 'no' entitled me to more free shit, I'd also be tempted. We've got our own FSA here in the States. It's like giving the tapeworms in your intestines a vote over whether or not they should be allowed to feed.
Totally free to choose to be a house nigger. At least your are comfortable with it.
The "Yes" people merely need to decide they've won and make it stick. You really only need a few percent to do that.
Fucking NWO cunts and their statist supporters.
Rock da boat, Scots! Get the party started!
"....This will be like Bush stealing the election in the USA....."
Bush didn't steal the election. For those too lame or lazy to study the history of that month, the US Sup Ct did NOT RULE Bush won. The dems intitiated the lawsuit after Bush won the popular vote, giving him the FL electoral vote. The Sup Ct took up the question of whether voting in Broward and Dade counties should be recounted. That was the only question they considered. It ruled that yes, but that all Fla. votes had to be recounted, which would have included military votes that were never counted at all. At that point, the dems dropped their suit, which left Bush as the winner. Why did they drop it? Because they knew the re-vote would confirm Bush won FL, and they knew the best deal they would get would be to have the issue to beat up for the rest of eternity, as they confused the issue with their Selected, not Elected bullshit. They knew a lie repeated often enough would be believed as truth. I'm no Bush apologist, but I'm certainly not going to sit by and listen to Armstrong re-write history. I don't know if Martin was still sitting in his fed jail cell during that time or not, but perhaps he just missed the bulletins. (Armstrong was framed, and I was a supporter of his during the time he spent behind bars). If you want to talk about goddamned vote fraud, Martin, start with 110% of precincts in Ohio and PA voting for Obama in 2012. Start with Black Panthers threatening voters with ball bats. Start with IRS crippling Tea Party with bullshit, illegal, immoral, tyrannical government criminality. Plenty of places to start, Martin, but you should also do a little reading about events of Nov-Dec of 2000.
I don't know WTF you are talking, but I just know that Bush won the election in Florida, for a MARGINAL up-hand... it was just coincidence that his BROTHER was the governor of the state at the time, how convenient... and the coincidences don't end there...
Maybe you don't know because you need to do some reading.
Maybe you could expand your understanding of American 'elections' to understand that there is no difference between the Dems and Repubs, that it's all just theater to keep the sheeple conned.
LOL. Fucking Bush was running against his MOTHERFUCKING Skull & Bones butt-buddy, but his electoral 'win' was legit to you?
No difference? Tell you what, pal. Anybody is looking better than Obummer right now.
Even John McCain?
Sheep always believe the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.
I told my son two weeks ago that the Scot's independence referedum would be rigged by the EU and/or England. I am very disappointed, but not surprised. So, FUCK THE EU & ENGLAND! Oh, by the way if you've read the Supremes opinion on their selection of "Incurious George", the use of the 14th amendment as an excuse to appoint the presidency makes no sense. Also, the attorney for the DNP did not raise the correct legal issue to cause legal remedy in this case. I was studying law at the time, so my mind was fresh and clicking as regards this case. I believe the DNC counsel purposely raised the wrong legal issue so that dubya would be "selected" and the deal was made in back rooms; the "Old Boy's Club", prevailing as usual.
Any one else see the news item two days before the vote reporting tha an informal Russian delegation of "observers" stated that they feared that the results were going to be fraudulent?
The biggest crime is democracy itself, that it forces what essentially amounts to 50% of a population living under the rule of the other 50% who in turn volunteers the 100% to sub-service to a foreign power.
Its like 10 people live in a house, they have all lived there for 10 years and have a vested interest in the house, the house has been in contract with the neighbor for 10 years, the contract states that the 10 people living in the house will serve the neighbor, (cut his grass, trim the hedges, make dinner every night), 4 people out of the 10 realize this is a stupid arrangement and that there really isn't much consideration being returned from the neighbor, so they decide to have a vote.
4 people vote for independence, 2 people refuse to vote and 4 people vote to keep the arrangement (because the neighbor is bribing them), the 2 people remaining "neutral" count the votes, and one of them turns coat and rigs the votes of 1 person to swing the vote.
The real issue here is, there is a portion of the population in Scotland, that has a vested interest in extracting wealth from the other 50% and splitting that wealth with a foreign power.
The enemy is abroad, and within ;) . . .
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb discussing what's for dinner.
There is currently some trouble in the centre of Glasgow tonight. It's been going on for a few hours now. Surprisingly, it's not the Yes supporters, but the No supporters who are causing the bother. They descended on a Yes gathering in the city's George Square and surrounded them. The police had to move in to protect Yes supporters after missiles, fireworks and flares were thrown. Reports of one Yes supporter being stabbed hasn't been confirmed. But Saltires were being burned, and the scum element were making Nazi salutes. Seriously. Pubs have barricaded themselves in to protect the people inside.
The No supporters are currently being herded by the Police through the city. More missiles and flares are being thrown and there is reporting of further fighting. Although given the people involved, there's a good chance they'll be fighting among themselves. We have a word to describe their usual mental state - permarage. They're always angry about something, and they're so caught up in the Protestant unionism that they might as well be living in the 17th century.
Would not be at all surprised if this is football related violence. An excuse for fighting between Rangers(protestant) and Celtic(catholic) supporters.
There were a load of British Nationalists shipped up from down south for the vote, after all Scotland's their country. They'll be feeling proud of themselves about now and looking for a good fight before going home.
The vote was rigged? Give me a break!
With so many shit going around and ZH picks something worthy of Sarah Palin... go and wank with your left hand.
As an Englishman the Scots are fools for turning down the chance to become independent but to say their version of government would be any better than what went before is a huge leap of faith. Take a look at all the failed socialist Scottish politicians that have dominated London in recent years. They listened to the scaremongering and more fool them. The "proof" of vote rigging is laughable This romantacized vision that so many on here have, of the Scottish being in some way being superior to their southern neighbours is also laughable. The socialist free shit army is alive and well in Scotland. As for Martin Armstrong. This seventh Gen Scotsman`s reporting has been biased beyond belief and it makes me wonder what other stuff he says is also crap.
"makes me wonder what other stuff he says is also crap."
No need to wonder, modric.
In fact, for those who like to avoid profanity and excessive vulgarity, I was thinking we could begin using the expression "Martin Armstrong" as a euphemism: "Ahhh yer fulla Martin Armstrong!"