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Peter Thiel "Fixes" America's Anti-Business Policies In 6 Words

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With retail store closures running at their fastest pace since Lehman... 


 

...and business closure rates higher than start-up rates for the first time in US history...

 

Billionaire venture capitalist Peter Thiel has some short-and-sweet advice on how to fix the apparent anti-business sentiment in America...

 

"Get Government Out Of The Way."

 

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Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:38 | 5243979 NoDebt
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<------ See my Avatar, Pete?  If you see anything that looks like that, you might want to stay away from it for a while.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:42 | 5243987 Renewable Life
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As easily done at this point as the Captain of the Titanic saying, "well steer clear of it then"!!

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:13 | 5244098 Ignatius
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These cunts own "the government", fucking dissembling asshat.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 21:56 | 5245629 doctor10
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If they're gonna tax, regulate, license and sue your ass-well there's nothing left now is there?

Personally I don't think its too wise to leave that category of individual-the entrpreneur-with nothing left to lose. They'll get creative on the nanny nag state.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:39 | 5243981 Shizzmoney
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If it wasn't FOR the government, this guy wouldn't be rich.  Google: "Palantir".

BTW Maria has gained weight.  Good for her.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:55 | 5244032 Bryan
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Is there a bun in the oven, maybe?

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 16:25 | 5244423 Budd aka Sidewinder
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Not by Peter Thiel that's for sure

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:40 | 5243983 agstacks
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Peter better have his tax records in order. 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:20 | 5244130 onewayticket2
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someone just purchased him a nailgun....

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 21:34 | 5245548 JimS
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Peter pays taxes? He must have a very shitty accountant.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:41 | 5243988 Unknown User
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We did that already!

"insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:28 | 5244149 Anusocracy
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Did what?

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5244000 Hohum
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Peter Thiel is not a "wealth creator," and most of you know or should know that.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:55 | 5244033 Stoploss
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He also obviously is not familiar with the new normal voting system.

See Scotland, Peter.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5244001 Saratoga
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How about get rid of the  Federal Reserve.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:52 | 5244027 NoDebt
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They're not part of the government.

(It was hard to keep a straght face saying that, BTW.)

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5244006 laomei
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Looks like someone's up for a 21-times-in-the-back-of-the-head-with-a-nailgun-suicide.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5244007 Anglophobe
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I know some libertarians love Peter Thiel , but he was at that unnameable confab a few years ago and ass far as I'm concerned he can suck on this.                B========> ~~~~~ :(  .... what's wrong Thiel? You have cum in your eye ....

On a side note is this considered trolling ? 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:46 | 5244010 joego1
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Peter didn't build that.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:46 | 5244011 dbTX
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Precisely correct !!

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:49 | 5244019 Soul Glow
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Get government out of the way.

So no more QE then?

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 18:52 | 5244980 mkhs
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That horse is already out of the barn.  If you didn't line your pockets by now, it's your fault.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:51 | 5244025 silentboom
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The question is how?  They have access to unlimited money through a global inflation scam.  They also have access to the free-shit army as well as millions of government employees who will vote themselves shit.  The status quo snowball is about the size of the moon right now and rolling fast.  Hundreds of thousands of leftists marched through NYC yesterday for a problem that doesn't exist and not one of them would listen to what a Peter Thiel has to say.  It looks hopeless.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:15 | 5244105 exi1ed0ne
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There are only 3 choices at this present time:

1) Leave for somewhere else - not practical, since it's global

2) Hope to live through the collapse and become super Argentina

3) Breakaway your region or take one over, but that tree of liberty won't want for food

 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:55 | 5244034 Duc888
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Fuck Yea.

 

Get

The

Fuck

Out

Of

The

Way...

 

 

 

 

....but of course... with so many parasites in Gov leaching off of the private sector, that'll never happen.

 

They all make their money off of the skim.

 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:00 | 5244045 firstdivision
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On the same topic, get coporations out of government.  Additionally, quit supporting failed businesses with taxpayer support.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:56 | 5244035 disabledvet
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Sorry to hear about your Facebook sale.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:57 | 5244041 Dr. Engali
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He sounds like somebody who needs to be audited by the IRS.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 14:58 | 5244042 Spungo
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What's up with the eye makeup? Whoever does her makeup needs to be fired and possibly executed.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:10 | 5244089 Clesthenes
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“Get government out of the way.”

Yes… but how?

Shall we pester official pedophiles to quite raking trillions from public funds and stashing said trillions in their overseas bank accounts?  (See, Failure of Power)

(I call them pedophiles for two reasons: 1) about 20 years ago, I collected evidence from government sources that governments in se US had been captured by a gang of pedophiles (as in ritual murders), 2) governmental debt is the process by which a generation of tax consumers financially cannibalizes following generations of tax payers.)

Shall we rely on existing forums of redress… all of which are staffed by insipid dolts who dream of the day they retire so they can draw $4,000/m retirement checks ($15,000/m to $25,000/m if department heads)?

C’mon guys, silly season is over; it’s time to become adults.  If we are to cure the economy or make men accountable for what they have done, we have to take matters in our hands and set things right, as American Founders did.

The trouble is, however, there’s hardly an American who has the necessary knowledge (the first link above gives a short intro).

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:10 | 5244091 youngman
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When I started a business 20 years ago...you had to get 15 different licenses to start......the government employees have you by the balls....you spend most of your time filling out reports for them rather than runing your business...I can assume its even worse today....many more rules and regulations today....

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:14 | 5244099 Shizzmoney
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RE

I can assume its even worse today....many more rules and regulations today....

Most of them written by corporate lawyers....the same ones who represent Thiel's interests.

What a hypocritical sack of shit this guy is.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:23 | 5244135 delivered
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My entire business/consulting model has been built on working with small businesses since the early 1990's and I can attest that the economic environment for small businesses is as challenging as ever. Some of this is centered in the demographic trend with aging boomers (and not wanting to take on the risks/stress of operating a business). But this only explains a small portion of this trend based on what I'm seeing as follows:

- I've supported a number of businesses/boomers with selling their companies over the past two years. Two issues should be noted. First, basically all wanted to exit before the next meltdown (as everyone knows it is coming and nobody wants to have to deal with it again). Second, all sales were up the food chain to larger organizations with cheap financial capital supporting the deals. No sales were horizontal (to individuals looking to build a business).

- There was basically no capital available five to six years ago to form new businesses (think of the problems in 2008 through 2010). Without capital formation, businesses that should have been formed and grown to good size operations by today simply did not occur. I'm not talking about the latest Bio-tech or tech wonder kids in SV but rather the meat and potatoes of Main Street businesses such as wholesale, manufacturing, niche retail, construction, etc.

- GenX has been wiped out. This group (of let's say 35 to 50 year olds) would be prime small business owners. But starting with the dot.com meltdown, then 9/11, they took it in the shorts. Then they were told to buy homes and did in mass up to 2007, wiped out again. So to follow, whatever savings they had, wiped out by the market crash in 2008/2009 and then they lost their jobs (and depleted their savings). Finally, they are being offered jobs but with no real savings/resources and crappy new jobs, there's no real ability to form businesses.

- While capital may be plentiful and cheap for the likes of Apple and Alibaba (and his 40 theives), capital has never been more scarce and expensive for small businesses (especially at the formation stage). The concentration of capital is absolutely killing small businesses.

- Too compliment all of these factors, small businesses are confronted with an ever increasing number of government regulations that not only make operating a small business extremely challenging (think having employees in a state such as CA) but actually create an un-level playing field when competing for talent. Think the ACA. Large businesses can offer a great benefit package that small businesses can not match. So they are left with offering a crappy health plan structured around the ACA that in no way, shape, or form any reasonable person would view as worthwhile. This environment is causing a "brain drain" from small businesses as they cannot effectively compete. While this has always been a problem for small businesses, the last decade has really amplified this issue to a point of basically no return.

Peter may be partially correct with his assessment but he really has no fucking clue just how difficult the small business environment actual is.  The structural damage inflicted on small businesses over the past decade has been so severe that simply calling out the government as the main problem is like trying to fix California's water problem by trucking in water from other areas. The issue is deeply structural and buried in a mentality of socialism the country has been moving towards for the past 30+years. Just look to the majority of Europe and it's economic problems. While the ECB is attempting to throw every bit of monetary stimulus at the problem what they don't get is just how deeply rooted socialism has become in Europe to a point where I don't think the the younger Europeans actualy even could be successful with starting and running a business even with free money. This is not a knock on Europeans but rather on just how attached and dependent the economies have become on governments for jobs, retirement, healthcare, you name it. 

It is going to take at least a generation to fix this problem and a major global reset (which will be extremely painful) to truly unleash the true forces of capitalism and the related opportunities (that offer a proper return in relation to the risks small business owners have to endure). What the world doesn't need is a bunch of well contected billionaires (think Peter and Jack Ma just today) trying to pass along some bullshit advise on what it takes for people and small businesses to become successful. What the world needs are some real leaders that understand the pain forthcoming and reset required to cleanse the world of too much debt, too much corruption, and too much greed.

Wishful thinking I know but until then, every day is going to be Ground Hog Day, just more of the same lies, BS, and false hope being dumped on the sheppie to keep them in line. 

 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:26 | 5244142 magnumpk
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Sure, his advice is spot on.  The problem is that nobody will listen, because everyone is trained to think/believe that government and the Fed need to "do something" to create jobs.  I also have heard that there are over 3,000 federal agencies - although who could even count them?  Good luck to us all scaling that back.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:34 | 5244169 trader1
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until we change the world, the game, the ride,

we will be stuck in the current homo economicus world created by ambitious politicians and economists of ages past.

we need now more than ever

more ambitious people imagining and creating a better ride

one that evolves our homo reciprocans tendencies

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:35 | 5244177 Yen Cross
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    What... No mention of the minimum wage?  (Zerocare also applies to some of these small businesses)

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 15:57 | 5244290 LawsofPhysics
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Hey fucknut, don't take taxpayer-funded bailouts if you don't want "government in the way"!!!!

 

All the bad-debt has been transfered to the public/government you stupid motherfucker.  Gee, I guess we should have let some fuchheads fail after all.  Go to fucking Somalia if you don't want any regulations you stupid fuck.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 16:12 | 5244361 Peter Pan
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Unfortunately gvernment has removed the biggest regulator of them all......market determined interest rates.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 16:34 | 5244463 LawsofPhysics
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because the banks are the government.  We have been here before.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 16:04 | 5244323 Peter Pan
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I do feel for all those people who have had to shut down buinesses but let's face it, the USA has too many square feet of retail space that were created during times of idiotic over capacity, cheap Chinese goods and cheap money with which to go shopping.

This is part of the cleansing process that we will all undergo both on a business and personal level. Unfortunately government will be the last to slam on the brakes and put an end to its stupid spending priorities,

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 22:31 | 5244341 Salsipuedes
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That would be so awesome! Maybe we could even finally land a man on the moon or  develop medical technology that can make sure Dick Cheney doesn't live forever!

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 16:33 | 5244452 Sovereign Economist
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Sounds funny hearing this from, of all people, the Head of the Steering Committee for Bilderberg!

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 18:08 | 5244851 honestann
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Bilderberg wants more victims to fleece, which is what happens to new businesses and the people they contract and hire.

But yeah, Peter Theil does indeed appear to be one of the most extreme cases of a walking self-contradiction on planet earth.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 17:06 | 5244570 frankly scarlet
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Headline should read Thiel just admits to being very stupid...or Thiel disinformation chant or should we explain to Thiel that this is what QE and ZIRP does to an economy it retires/destroys capital. Freidman said never more thasn six months of QE Because of the effect it has on capital which is highly corrosive! Thiel is just fucking with our heads I hope for his sake.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 18:05 | 5244844 The Econ Ideal
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Thiel states the obvious. So what is he doing about it? 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 20:11 | 5245254 SmittyinLA
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Most govt activities in CA are aimed at restraining commerce, preventing development and funding criminal invasion, a pure psycho criminal govt. 

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 21:14 | 5245471 JimS
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"Get Government Out Of The Way": because they are not allowing us steal everything not tied down? ...... Oops, we've already stolen everything that's tied down, too..... never mind, move along, nothing to see here.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 21:25 | 5245506 JimS
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Peter "Get Government Out Of The Way" Thiel responds: Hey, privatize profits and socialize losses, and let US really smart businessmen fix this shitty economy, like we did in 2008/2009...... or there will be tanks in the streets. Now get out of my way, you peons.

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 21:31 | 5245531 JimS
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That reminds me, Donald Trump filed his 5th bankruptcy (?) recently. I bet he'd like the Government to get outa his way...... so he can file No. 6 & 7?

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 22:45 | 5245883 AdvancingTime
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Small business, with two to ten employees, are becoming an  endangered species in America. The family business once the backbone of this country is under attack from the unintended consequences of the many laws and mandates passed in recent years.

Inspections, a plethora of permits, licenses, taxes, insurance requirements, and regulations make it almost impossible for a small business to open, compete, and operate legally. Big government has become toxic for small business. More on this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2012/03/small-bussiness-under-attack.html

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 22:54 | 5245917 zeronero
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Can someone please tell me what's the opposite of zerohedge? Because that's where I want to spend my time. Not in this pathetic den of envy and slack. Thiel is a self made billionaire who did it funding tech companies. If you gold dust lemmings can't see the accomplishments there you deserve the welfare lifestyle that's befalling you.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 03:10 | 5246196 Salsipuedes
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"He did it funding tech companies, why not you?"

O.K. Horatio Alger Ma: the opposite of "Zero Hedge" would be either Fortune Magazine, Larry Ellison's How to Stay Humble and Keep It Real Monthly, the 9/11 Commission Report, the last edition of Reader's Digest or Warren Buffett's Romantic Memoirs. Enjoy! And the beauty of these fine publications is Salsipuedes can't talk back!

Mon, 09/22/2014 - 23:41 | 5246050 Wtfcity
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You should probably head back to CNBC or Blommberg where you came from.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 00:14 | 5246113 WilliamShatner
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The poofter has a point, but government doesn't need to get out of the way, they just need to stop playing favorites.

I'm sure Peter wouldn't mind if the playing field was a bit more level so the little guy can get a chance.

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