What Iraq Thinks: "It Is Obvious To Everyone That ISIS Is A Creation Of The United States And Israel"

Tyler Durden's picture

Ever since the stunningly rapid arrival of ISIS on the global scene, there has been speculation that this spin-off of Al-Qaeda, itself a "terrorist" organization if not created by the CIA then certainly funded by Langley courtesy of Operation Cyclone in its "freedom fighter" stage, has had the implicit or explicit backing of either the US or Israel intelligence service. Nowhere is such speculation more vocal than in the one country that has suffered the most from ISIS: Iraq, or rather what is left of the country now that it is split into southern Iraq, the Islamic State, and a Kurdish region that quietly sells crude to unknown buyers at blue light special prices. To the Iraq locals there is no mystery: “It is obvious to everyone that the Islamic State is a creation of the United States and Israel” says Omar al-Jabouri, 31, a Sunni Muslim from a predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad. His view echoes what a vast number of his peers think.

From the NYT:

We know about who made Daesh,” said Bahaa al-Araji, a deputy prime minister, using an Arabic shorthand for the Islamic State on Saturday at a demonstration called by the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr to warn against the possible deployment of American ground troops. Mr. Sadr publicly blamed the C.I.A. for creating the Islamic State in a speech last week, and interviews suggested that most of the few thousand people at the demonstration, including dozens of members of Parliament, subscribed to the same theory. (Mr. Sadr is considered close to Iran, and the theory is popular there as well.)

 

When an American journalist asked Mr. Araji to clarify if he blamed the C.I.A. for the Islamic State, he retreated: “I don’t know. I am one of the poor people,” he said, speaking fluent English and quickly stepping back toward the open door of a chauffeur-driven SUV. “But we fear very much. Thank you!”

Smart guy: there could have been an armed and ready Predator drone flying overhead.

But why would the locals be gripped by this "conspiracy theory", at least until it is a proven fact? According to the NYT, the prevalence of the theory in the streets underscored the deep suspicions of the American military’s return to Iraq more than a decade after its invasion, in 2003. The casual endorsement by a senior official, though, was also a pointed reminder that the new Iraqi government may be an awkward partner for the American-led campaign to drive out the extremists.

In short, the US has zero credibility abroad, even with the US-puppet government is just put in power to replace the US-pupet government preceding it:

Mr. Obama has pledged not to send combat troops, but he seems to have convinced few Iraqis. “We don’t trust him,” said Raad Hatem, 40. Haidar al-Assadi, 40, agreed. “The Islamic State is a clear creation of the United States, and the United States is trying to intervene again using the excuse of the Islamic State,” he said.

 

Shiite militias and volunteers, he said, were already answering the call from religious leaders to defend Iraq from the Islamic State without American help. “This is how we do it,” he said, adding that the same forces would keep American troops out. “The main reason Obama is saying he will not invade again is because he knows the Islamic resistance” of the Shiite militias “and he does not want to lose a single soldier.”

To be sure, it is not just the US which is blamed: some of the fault is reserved for the government of the former president, Maliki, who as a reminder, was a puppet initially put in his post by none other than the US.

Many at the rally in Baghdad said they welcomed airstrikes against Mr. Baghdadi’s Islamic State but not American ground forces, the position that Mr. Sadr has taken. Many of the 30 lawmakers backed by Mr. Sadr — out of a Parliament of 328 seats — attended the rally.

 

Mr. Sadr’s supporters opposed Mr. Maliki, the former prime minister, and many at the rally were quick to criticize the former government for mistakes like failing to build a more dependable army. “We had a good army, so where is this army now?” asked Waleed al-Hasnawi, 35. “Maliki gave them everything, but they just left the battlefield.”

 

But few if any blamed Mr. Maliki for alienating Sunnis, as American officials assert, by permitting sectarian abuses under the Shiite-dominated security forces.

 

Omar al-Jabouri, 31, a Sunni Muslim from a predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad who attended the rally and said he volunteers with a Shiite brigade, argued that Mr. Maliki had alienated most Iraqis, regardless of their sect. “He did not just exclude and marginalize the Sunni people; he ignored the Shiite people, too,” Mr. Jabouri said. “He gave special help to his family, his friends, people close to him. He did not really help the Shiite people, as many people think.”

And while sentiment is mixed toward the local politicians, there is no debate when it comes to the greatest terrorist scourge since bin Laden:

... the Islamic State was a different story, Mr. Jabouri said. “It is obvious to everyone that the Islamic State is a creation of the United States and Israel.”

Maybe to everyone in Iraq...

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Bryan's picture

Oops, is it THAT obvious?  Wait, where's my nail gun?

NoDebt's picture

<---- Here, borrow mine.

nope-1004's picture

No, not obvious.  The most advanced military in the world ALWAYS has equipment stolen from them right under their noses. 

TruthInSunshine's picture

Gotta have a boogeyman to keep the sheeple scared enough to fall incline,milks good, docile sheeple, as they're stripped of their economic, constitutional, & personal rights & dignities (and stripped literally, in many cases).

There are no coincidences. As I stated the other day, Bring on Hil-Dog '16!

4 (or 8) more PNAC* Wars!

*Starting with the 9/11 attacks, PNAC got what it wanted: A large portion of the world in turmoil (Arab Spring, Ukraine-Russia Crisis, A Complete Surveillance State Apparatus ala imbedded technology & discarded Constitution, and a huge build up in the MIC and FBT (Financial, Banking & Technology Complex).

Dual-Citizens Unite!

Shabbos Goyim bow down!

Keyser's picture

You know the fat is in the fire when the NYTs breaks a story like this... Doesn't look good for the coalition, now does it... All this ISIS subterfuge is merely an excuse for the US to bomb the crap out of Syria... No more, no less... 

 

 

ZerOhead's picture

Actually there is a little more to it...

Get the troops on the ground to control the region and protect the oil, break the country up into managable bite-sized chunks and transfer the oil to our multinationals ...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/breaking-maliki-biden

For better or worse, Iraq has been Biden’s bag ever since a national-security meeting, in the summer of 2009, when Obama turned to him and said, “Joe, you do Iraq”

Biden said, according to the account. “I’ll bet you my vice presidency Maliki will extend the SOFA.”

And this is where the problems started...

Pinto Currency's picture

 

 

What Biden, Obama, Hillary have done with ISIS is going to have serious and real impact on the US.

All three should be under arrest and standing trial.

ZerOhead's picture

I'm still waitng for the SURVIVOR ISIS Reality Show to show up in the listings...

Outwit Outplay Outlive

The remaining 30 hostages compete in weekly games of skill, prayer and athleticism to remain alive. Whoever gets voted off each week gets his head cut off.

The ratings would be insane...

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen,

There you have it! It you don't join ISIL you are anti-Semitic or at least anti-Israel!

Oh yea, "FUCK YOU" CIA from India's NTRO.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I noticed a little subtlety, which amused me greatly and which I see no one else picked up on:

Notice Ali Baba's SN"  its code start with "BRIS".  That's too funny, as a "Bris" is the Jewish custom of male circumcision.

Arius's picture

so NYT the "voice of freedom" interviewed 2-3 iraqis (out of hunderd or so, that we dont know what they said) and this is all of a sudden the voice of "arab street" .... what kind of BS is that ???

Truthseeker2's picture

This article provides the best explanation for all things MIDEAST.

The Secret Agenda Behind ALL Middle East Conflicts

blindman's picture

moderate rebels. if that isn't the largest
heap of tortured and turd like double talk
i have heard i don't know what is. and no one
seems to notice ..... there must be all kinds
of new special places in hell being constructed
nowadays.

williambanzai7's picture

Send Hunter Biden in to get on the Board of the gas company...

Paveway IV's picture

You guys are just not keeping up with the narrative. Fake ISIS is so 'yesterday'. 

Israe... Uh, I mean CNN and the NYT have concluded operation Fake ISIS - mission accomplished. It's time to turn to the new/old threat: Iran. I know they're not really a threat to anybody on earth, but that's not the point.

Destruction of Iran always was the end-game for Israel, so it's time to start demonizing them (even more) in western media. The reason for that, of course, is that Israel has no intention of destroying Iran. That's a job for their American bitches. That's why AIPAC exists and we have a disproportionate number of dual-citizen congressmen. Israel wants a bombing run or two at the fake nuclear plants, but the rest of the future Iranian 'pacification' to Israel's satisfaction will necessarily involve the deaths of thousands of U.S. soldiers. Oh... there's the million or so Iranians that will probably die too as a result of Israel's aggression-by-proxy (just like in Iraq).

Fake ISIS has permanently split Iraq and justified protecting the 'good' oil-guarding Kurds while effectively ethnicly cleansing all the non-Kurds from oil-land (Yazidis, Turkmen, Arabs, etc.). In addition, ISIS is slaughtering the 'bad' Kurds in Syria that wouldn't help the U.S. and Israel kill Assad. Plus, Syrian ISIS gives us a second chance to kill Assad ourselves. There's still some milage left in the Fake ISIS threat for stuff like mandatory TSA body cavity searches, so expect a few more beheadings and 'non-specific threats' to be trotted out. 

But, please - stay up with the current demons we're suppose to fear. I think it's some never-before-heard-of Shia Iranian terrorists which - like always - are secretly supported by the Iranian government. Or it's evil anal-probing space aliens with ultra-advanced HFT algorithms working for Iran. Whatever goofball menace is offered next, remember: Iran is behind it. We don't need to kill all Iranians for Israel, we need to kill them in order to ensure our own safety and the safety of our children.

Skip's picture

"All this ISIS subterfuge is merely an excuse for the US to bomb the crap out of Syria... No more, no less... "

Assad, his wife and children are Whites who celebrate Christmas. No wonder Obongo and his handlers want him GONE.
And the REAL Overlords of the USSA get everything, all the time, it was like when the bailouts to the Banksters on the Upper Eastside of Manhattan, real estate SKYROCKETED in Tel Aviv.

NotApplicable's picture

Look at the whole NYT "story" and it becomes obvious that this is a whitewash/limited hangout op. designed to discredit the ties. Notice the second sentence in the article uses the overloaded term "conspiracy theories."

They aren't breaking a story nearly as much as their trying to destroy one outside of their control.

BadPenguin's picture

Exactly.

Further supported by this line:

"he does not want to lose a single soldier.."

 

Yeah, like troop protection is a concern for the politicians.

Golden Rule's picture

Everything is going as planned.  The goal, I think, is to continue to make everyone lose confidence in the old USA.  You cannot tell me that this admin and the puppeteers with all the blunders, are that stupid.  End the dollar, bring on a global reset and introduce the new global currency and the start of the NWO.

whirling tword freedom's picture

Isn't it ironic that we're going to arm them and bomb them at the same time?!?!?

That's why I have to think that we're not going to bomb them... well, at least until Assad is gone.

I still am waiting to see what Putin will do.

jimmytorpedo's picture

Turns out it's the glazier with the pocketful of rocks!

nope-1004's picture

Really obvious.  Create the enemy, control the enemy to do your boots on the ground, then bomb the enemy.

Stealing US army equipment and not even one mention of it from Mr. Soetoro's Bath House should have been your first clue.

 

fallout11's picture

"We have always been at war with ______(fill in the blank)_____."

disabledvet's picture

Probably. Is that "Neu War with New Normal?"

Hard tellin' not knowin'."

nasdaq99's picture

THe Fed is about to find out that even if they CAN control price, they cannot control supply......................

 

Econ 101

Berspankme's picture

Notice that ISIS has never threatened Israhell or jews. Proof enough for me

the tower's picture

Only if ISIS does a massive attack on Israel I believe they are for real. But it won't happen. Not even a firecracker.

ZerOhead's picture

I have a feeling that they will be ordered to attack Israel.

It will be good politically for the NeoCon chickenhawks, create more international sympathy for Israel and even provide them with justification to seize more regional lands for 'security' purposes. If they want more land that is...

tvdog's picture

If Israel wants more land? Is the pope Catholic?

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Tower.

If ISIL attacks .IS it's good for 'merica.

Congress will approve "ANOTHER" 1.5 Billion for the Israel Iron Condom program. USSA Condom manufacture Trojan will build another Iron Condom to slip over .IS.

Win/Win. Good for America right? Jobs and such, right? WIN/KILL/GDP! #1!

SmallerGovNow2's picture

Nor Turkey which is where they seem to have appeared out of nowhere from...

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"Notice that ISIS has never threatened Israhell or jews. Proof enough for me"

I wish I'd have picked up on that astute observation!  Oh, wait...

 

Wed, 08/06/2014 - 13:29 | 5054753  

   [1] If you want to know who controls/owns you, find out whom you may not criticize publicly.

   [2] If you want to know who truly owns/sponsors a Jihadist group, find out whom they will not attack.

All else is Theater, Distraction & Action, and BS -- to confuse and calm the Sheeple.  Questions?


Sat, 08/09/2014 - 12:30 | 5069574 

   Wake me when we see them take aim at Israel and become IS.IL

   Wake me when they go after Jerusalem. Should be a good show.

NoDebt's picture

You think it was a disaster when Obama was just droning a few wedding parties here and there, just wait until this air-only war gets rolling.  This is going to be another collossal clusterfuck.  There's good reason our "allies" are backing out one by one.  They don't want to be anywhere near this disaster when the wheels fall off it.  "Mark my words."TM

Stoploss's picture

When you create a monster you gotta deal with it.

In this case it needs to die.

ThirdWorldDude's picture

"Welcome to HaMossad leModi?in uleTafkidim Meyu?adim

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JustObserving's picture

Welcome to reality:

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.

The Western powers, flush with success after organising an Islamist insurgency in Benghazi in order to justify NATO’s overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, thought they could use similar forces to overthrow Assad in Syria, whose regime draws its main base of support from the Alawite sect, a Shi’a offshoot, and Sunni businessmen.

For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. TheGuardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

ZerOhead's picture

Hmmmm... Our good ally Turkey is not even allowing Kurdish refugees to return to Syria fight ISIS. Someone wants to see another successful ISIS slaughter broadcast on MSM?...

"The move comes amid reports of violent clashes on Sunday between demonstrators, who gathered in support of Kurdish refugees, and Turkish authorities. The clashes reportedly took place about three miles from Kobane, with protesters alleging that Turkish authorities were preventing Kurdish refugees from returning to the battlefront in Syria."

http://www.ibtimes.com/turkey-closes-syrian-border-crossing-hundreds-tho...

Dr. Engali's picture

Here in the U.S we believe that ISIS is a breakfast cereal.

NoDebt's picture

I thought it was that spy organization that Archer belongs to.

Ignatius's picture

Well, when I took CIA 101 back in college... oh, wait....

Latitude25's picture

LOL.  Kudos ZH.

Duc888's picture

 

 

 

Bada-bing!

hahahaha

 

Blowback sux soooooooooooooo much.

silentboom's picture

Since they supposedly cut heads off of all reporters, there will be no on the ground coverage.  Convenient.

Keyser's picture

I'm just waiting for Bulf Wlitzer from CNN to embedd with ISIS any day now... Perhaps we can get a video of the bad guys pick their teeth after they've eaten him for lunch...