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Syria Is 7th (Muslim) Country Bombed By 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner

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Authored by Glenn Greenwald, originally posted at The Intercept,

The U.S. today began bombing targets inside Syria, in concert with its lovely and inspiring group of five allied regimes: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Jordan.

That means that Syria becomes the 7th predominantly Muslim country bombed by the 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate – after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Iraq.

The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).

It was just over a year ago that Obama officials were insisting that bombing and attacking Assad was a moral and strategic imperative. Instead, Obama is now bombing Assad’s enemies while politely informing his regime of its targets in advance. It seems irrelevant on whom the U.S. wages war; what matters it that it be at war, always and forever.

Six weeks of bombing hasn’t budged ISIS in Iraq, but it has caused ISIS recruitment to soar. That’s all predictable: the U.S. has known for years that what fuels and strengthens anti-American sentiment (and thus anti-American extremism) is exactly what they keep doing: aggression in that region. If you know that, then they know that. At this point, it’s more rational to say they do all of this not despite triggering those outcomes, but because of it. Continuously creating and strengthening enemies is a feature, not a bug, as it is what then justifies the ongoing greasing of the profitable and power-vesting machine of Endless War.

If there is anyone who actually believes that the point of all of this is a moral crusade to vanquish the evil-doers of ISIS (as the U.S. fights alongside its close Saudi friends), please read Professor As’ad AbuKhalil’s explanation today of how Syria is a multi-tiered proxy war. As the disastrous Libya “intervention” should conclusively and permanently demonstrate, the U.S. does not bomb countries for humanitarian objectives. Humanitarianism is the pretense, not the purpose.

 

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Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:17 | 5247438 JustObserving
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Yet Putin is being demonized as a monster and mass-murderer.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:24 | 5247455 hedgeless_horseman
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But no Scandinavian countries!

Smart fucking Norwegians and Swedes!

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:24 | 5247482 Ignatius
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Iraq = destroyed

Libya = destroyed

Syria = workin' on being destroyed

Oops, I said "destroyed", but I meant "bringing democracy".

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:25 | 5247493 nope-1004
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Obama is a liar and a fraud.

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5247504 whotookmyalias
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So many people I know voted for him because "He's not Bush".  LOL

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247520 NOTW777
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and remember the outrage of liberals when a handful of known terrorists were waterboarded (under doctor's supervision) under The GWBush administration

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:42 | 5247580 TruthInSunshine
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"If you like your Nobel Peace Prize*..."

*obligatory

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:45 | 5247588 nope-1004
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Today's gem:

 

"As I said earlier this month, we have a clear plan to destroy ISIS."

- Il Duce

 

Anyone else have a memory longer than 2 weeks?  If so, you'll remember Mr. Taupe saying: "It seems as if folks are jumping ahead.  There is no plan."

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:05 | 5247683 lordylord
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I'm not suprised by the silence the Obama zombie voters.  Where is the youth's outrage like they had with Bush?  I guess war is OK as long as they get their "free" shit.  This "two-party" system is working to PERFECTION.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:16 | 5247744 TruthInSunshine
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Only the "magical Negro" (not my phase, but coined by Spike Lee) could wage wars like Cheney, sow global discontent like PNAC, and stir domestic turmoil like Lincoln (for all the wrong reasons) whilst winning the Nobel Peace Prize and all manner of other accolades from libtards such as Botox- Pelosi and her pea brained followers & false condemnation from neocontards such as Lindsey Nancy Graham and John "can't fly straight" McCainus (as well as stealth neocon, Chuck "fuck flyover country; Manhattan/Wall Street is our capital" Schumer).

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:24 | 5247782 onewayticket2
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Nobel Peace Prize:  Tomahawk Edition

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:38 | 5247805 Pinto Currency
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Obama and Co. may be so effectve at killing the dollar that MENA chaos becomes a secondary issue very soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F7bM63ZfWQ

Kyle Bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQKJqGC7w0

That's what the Obama Administration said they would do and they (Treasury & the Fed) are doing it in spades.

The BRICS are vaulting past the West and this crisis looks to be growing exponentially.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:31 | 5247812 BurningFuld
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Ya just waiting for those babies to be carrying nukes instead of conventional warheads.  Soon.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:46 | 5247915 thamnosma
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Ah, no big deal as long as the warheads are low yield tactical varieties....it's all under control

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:33 | 5248140 TBT or not TBT
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We nuked the shit out of own deserts in the 40's and 50's with some sizeable nukes, not just a wide variety of "tactical" sized ones.   All harmless good fun, in retrospect.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:14 | 5248400 0b1knob
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You left one coutry out of your list.   NobodyGivesAFuckIstan.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:44 | 5248589 TBT or not TBT
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Who has long-standing border disputes with whoogivesadamnistan.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:54 | 5248657 COSMOS
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What do you expect, Nobel invented dynamite and he was a major explosives manufacturer.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 16:35 | 5249163 TBT or not TBT
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Guilt is not just a river in Egypt.    Behind of philanthropists and conspicuous do-gooders of all stripes you can expect to detect actual guilt or failing that the feigned kind you use to keep in good with the TPTB.  Warren Buffet is the latter kind.   The Kennedys and Rockefellers the former kind.  The Koch brothers on the other hand just believe in doing good while doing well.  It's fun to watch drones of Satanism the likes of Harry Reid do the alinsky number on the Kochs.   Or some nurses union preventing their giving massively to a hospital.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:09 | 5248042 Grimaldus
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All the names you dropped are progressives. Not one constitutional conservative among them.

Progressives are the bloodiest of killers. Always have been, always will be.

Grimaldus

 

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:36 | 5248163 TBT or not TBT
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They gotta break some eggs to make their utopian omelette.   See "eugenics, progressivism, sterilisation, segregation"   You would think the (D) brand would hover just north of Nazism and Stalinism, but no.  Their aims still find wide appeal.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:16 | 5247745 TBT or not TBT
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The low information media outlets are not covering it, so it's, just, off topic.   Like, "what?  Shut up"   

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:54 | 5247952 TruthInSunshine
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Lady Gaga & Tony Bennett

Bruce Jenner & The Kardashians

MTV's Knocked Up @ 15

Ray Rice

iGadgets

Yo.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:14 | 5247736 TBT or not TBT
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These 7 vague territories upon which US munitions have been dropped are only "countries" in the preposterous United Nations sense of that idea.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:49 | 5247932 thamnosma
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There is only NATO.  All others are fair game.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:39 | 5248176 TBT or not TBT
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Turkey is looking kinda hot lately.  There's a reason she's dressed up like that and kinda twerking it, NATO or no, dontcha think.  Let's have another round of beers and see how this plays out.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5248060 Demdere
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That 'preposterous United Nations sense' of the term 'nation' is the one enshrined in international law, and we have signed many treaties promising to support it.

Your opinion about 'vague territories upon which US munitions have been dropped' does not change those essential facts.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:22 | 5248099 thamnosma
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I can't figure out whether he's being sarcastic or not.....

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:43 | 5248198 TBT or not TBT
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Not being sarcastic, in the main.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:43 | 5248193 TBT or not TBT
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Hey man give a us a little keyboard alert before you write some thing funny.  "International law" is a keyboard killer.  We are still drinking coffee this time of day, out on the left coast.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:04 | 5247694 fleur de lis
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"...you can keep your Nobel Prize, and use it for the cat box"

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:47 | 5247607 falak pema
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I love the "doctor Mengele" supervision detail.

Now that is worthy of Auschwitz on Tigris, aka Abu Ghraib ! 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:20 | 5248093 Miles Ahead
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Word.  That was some baboon revisionist attempt there.  I think he meant Dr. as in Dr. Dre as they were blasting hip hop music to drown out the screams so as not to disturb the residents all the way to Havana.  Or, as further punishment.

"totrured a few known terr'ists under the supervision of doctors."  There are classics, and then there's this.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:15 | 5248066 NOTW777
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lol and many of those same obama voting liberals are right here on ZH

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:23 | 5248106 thamnosma
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Hmmm, I don't get a sense of this place being filled with Obama voters. 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:47 | 5248217 TBT or not TBT
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Nor is it filled with those smart enough to have pulled the lever for McCain instead of the Alinskyite accomplishment free zero.  Despite the horror of it.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 18:59 | 5249622 bid the soldier...
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Are you saying that winning the Nobel Peace Prize by false pretenses is not an accomplishment?

You still have a lot to learn, laddie.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 23:12 | 5250415 TBT or not TBT
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Did he even apply for it?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 18:14 | 5249491 bid the soldier...
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'

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 18:13 | 5249492 bid the soldier...
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this place being filled with Obama voters. 

how about former Obama voters?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:21 | 5248094 Calmyourself
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Currently 18 downvotes, Obama agrees with you in that he just  kills 'em outright, good thinking, thanks for your support, idiots...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 01:26 | 5250679 StychoKiller
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Hmm, McCain was NOT Bush either, so...

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:30 | 5247516 Ignatius
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And he actually had the nerve to accept his prize.

War criminal Kissinger atleast had the decency to decline to accept his Nobel. 

What does that say?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:49 | 5247625 bid the soldier...
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What does that say?

That he really is a natural born citizen?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:17 | 5247754 TBT or not TBT
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Both his mother and Frank Marshall Davis were citizens.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5248062 bid the soldier...
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Oh, I never really cared whether he was a natural born citizen or not.

 

On the other hand, if he had never been born at all... 

"'Tis a consolation devoutly to be wished"

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:42 | 5248568 TBT or not TBT
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In one of his autobiographies he claims having had a very peculiar term of endearment for FMD, the American black card carrying communist who his mother and grandparents thought important for little Barry to know and love and learn from.  According to his fucking autobiographies.   

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:46 | 5247907 ajax
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@Ignatius

Get your fucking facts straight.

The 1973 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded 'ex aequo' to North Vietnamese leader Le Duc Tho and Kissinger. Le Duc Tho refused the award - not Kissinger.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:29 | 5248115 Ignatius
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I stand corrected.  Had read/heard that several times over the years, but it was incorrect.

Interesting/odd: no photos online of Kissinger acceptance.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:46 | 5248211 Cactus
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Can Nobel prizes be taken away?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:54 | 5247955 RKDS
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Hmm.  He doesn't bomb Syria and you cry weakling.  He does bomb Syria and you cry warmonger.  Does that make you a liar and a fraud or just a mush-headed crybaby?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:34 | 5248531 TBT or not TBT
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It's about WHO is bombed and under what circumstances.   "Syria" is not a person nor all that clearly a proper nation state.  In some sense there is no such thing as "Syria", pace the lines on the current maps.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5248034 Kirk2NCC1701
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nope-1004: "Obama is a liar and a fraud."

IBID:  Obama is the Ziocons' MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.

But we will continue to see posts from Trolls that he's "A Muzzy", and the trailer-trash 'Hicktards' (hick retards) will fall for it and Up-vote it.  [sigh]

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:37 | 5248551 TBT or not TBT
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It's hard to get it more wrong than that, but if this is an axiom of yours I can then understand how so much else you post generally has some strange element of unreality to it.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:05 | 5251351 madcows
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The world is full of "special" people.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5247500 Richard Chesler
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The name's Obomber. 

Barry Obomber.

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:34 | 5247541 McMolotov
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Hail to the Queef!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:43 | 5247593 g'kar
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QUOTUS

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:53 | 5247639 TruthInSunshine
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Whisper rumor that Barry O had Nobel medal melted and re-cast as a c**k ring for his body man, Reggie Love.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247514 williambanzai7
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Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:48 | 5247595 madcows
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clearly, war is peace.

Really, I could care less if we bomb the middle east sandbox to glass.  Blow all those nutters to hell.

Now, the Nobel prize committee(s) on the other hand?  Well, they're nuttier than the towel-headed goat-herders.  They're political activist retards.  Occupy wall street morons with someone else's money to throw away.  Hell, they're just another Hollywood awards show for the self congratulating socialist sycophants.  Crap.  All you need to know is the Krugman is a certified, leg-humping, card carrying member.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:19 | 5247761 TBT or not TBT
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I like the cut of your jib, madcows.   Keep laying down fire.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:56 | 5248665 madcows
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yup, they're a hyper-sensitive lot, the OccupyWallSt / Anti-Jew / Goat Herder ZeroHedge Crowd.  If you really want to get them in a tizzy, just call out the TinFoil Hat wearing Conspiracy Crowd.  There's a bunch of those nutters on here as well.  Everything is a conspiracy spearheaded by jewish bankers, and only THEY are smart enough to see it, what with all their internet research and all.  I swear, right after they check their ZeroHedge comments they jump over to Infowars.  "Quick, save yourselves.  Get your guns, ammo, gold and farmland!"

Watch. That should incite like a 100 down arrows.  It works without fail.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:23 | 5247762 TBT or not TBT
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Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:53 | 5247642 Mercury
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OBOMBA

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:20 | 5248073 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Peace in our time."  - Lord Chamberlain

"Peace-meal WW3 in our time."  -Kirk (leveraging Pope Francis's recent comment about "Peacemeal WW3")

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:04 | 5248013 SAT 800
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"they hate us for our freedom" ??? Or maybe because we killed grandma and all your cousins? well, it's either one or the other.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5248058 He_Who Carried ...
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So what? Now they will kill your grandmother for free? Fantastic!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5247499 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Bombing countries & photo-bombing (remember with the blonde politician at a funeral: Norway? Sweden).  He the man while Michelle (real man) looked on in anger!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5247506 gatorengineer
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surprised he doesnt wear his medal everyday like an alarm clock around his neck...

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247521 Man Who Was Thursday
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The shelling of civilians in Syria is done with russian-made artilery and support.

 

I like having a laught to the way Putin humiliates western leaders as much as the next guy, but I dont forget that he is not that different from his western couterparts.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:07 | 5248025 SAT 800
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You are so wrong; they'res no way to state how wrong you are. the weapons are purchased on the international arms market; the "support" of Russia ? You should try to read a bit more and think a bit more.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5248064 He_Who Carried ...
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You're just a fucktarded Russian KGB troll.
Go let Puti f* your arse..

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:07 | 5248345 Man Who Was Thursday
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If I am that wrong, please do enlight me. What "international arms market" have they bought the weapons?

Like I said, Putin is no different from his western counterparts. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:25 | 5248108 Calmyourself
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Hey Thursday wait till Sunday to comment and quit watching the mainstream idiot box, it is twisting your pea brain.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:55 | 5247655 Stoploss
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No worries. they're changing the name to Nobel Piece Prize.

See? all fixed..

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:59 | 5247976 ajax
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As 'caustixiod' noted way back in March of this year:

"Gore Vidal called the Peace Prize Committee "the Scandinavian Ironists".

The Zero Hedge article of March 3, 2014:

"Vladimir Putin Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize"

Go look it up.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5247456 El Oregonian
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OBOMBA!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:20 | 5247457 Mr Pink
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He's gonna do more! Keep Obama in president, ya know!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:22 | 5247465 NotApplicable
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With allies like these, who needs enemies?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5247496 Funny Money
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ZH rule #1: never let a chance to blow Putin's little dick go to waste.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:35 | 5247550 bid the soldier...
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and you know Putin has a little dick because?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:37 | 5247567 Infinite QE
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But that was before Funny Money's sex change operation. He wouldn't do it now.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:36 | 5247845 Duude
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Well, he can hardly palm a baseball if that helps. LOL

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:37 | 5247556 markelshark
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ZeroEdge has changed a lot over the years. It used to be smart, austrian-leaning financial news with corresponding audience. Now it is pure doom and gloom, anti-US, god-I-want-to-suck-Putin's-tiny-cock news with a corresponding audience. Shame really, but I still get a nugget of good financial news out of it now and again.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:14 | 5247739 Renewable Life
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Listen neocon clown, if your gonna contradict yourself, try to do it in multiple posts at least, not the same fucking one!!

Ya your just a poor little financial guy looking for a little market news, but you have a pretty serious political opinion there of Putin partner!

Sorry all these "doom and gloomers" are bumming out your ability to stay medicated and delusional in your "hopey and change and flag waving" society on Wall Street, but the 90% in this Country are swirling around the toilet bowl, while you continue to believe in hopeytown, USA!

Anti-US means what exactly, we have the audacity to speak to government with the distain and irreverence it deserves, if that is Anti-US then so be it!! This government is corrupt, fraud riddled, debt overdosed, tax addicted, and controlled by Keynesian madmen that believe in no personel responsibility or accountability or freedom or liberty!! If you want to continue to believe in fantasy, so you can wave your flag before the game and get your nostalgic dick hard about it, keep drinking that kool aid man, but save your fucking ZH critique, for someone who can't see how full of shit you are!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:23 | 5247781 markelshark
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Case in point. Thank you.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:53 | 5247954 Renewable Life
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And my point was, reality IS reality!!

Pretending it's not, so you can feel good, doesn't change reality!! That's drug addict psychology, not rational, good common sense, it's not sustainable, it's not real, it's not practical, it's not sane!!

Blaming others (Putin) for your fucked up world, you created, isn't sane either! Pretending America is something it no longer is, is not sane or rational either!

But don't worry brother, only two more days until football again and three more until "the Voice" starts again, so you can make it!!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:31 | 5247811 TBT or not TBT
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Sure, government is bad, and the state of the union is dire and getting worse as a result, but try to appreciate the little things.    Bombing the fuck out of foreign savages is one of those little things that provide a swell of hope, the real kind of hope.   That's our government doing some of the very few things we the people delegated and enumerated powers for it to do. 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:41 | 5248178 pods
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And they almost passed a declaration of war on Syria et all too.

pods

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:54 | 5248649 TBT or not TBT
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Meh, on the scale of unconstitutional shit going on, most of which harms we the people domestically, I have far more comfort with failure to declare war in a well defined statement against an amorphous evil mestastisizing amongst failed states that never had much legitimacy even when they were fairly stable basketcase tyrannies. Failing to faithfully execute the laws of the USA, that's impeachable.   Preventing prevention of the ongoing invasion of the USA is treason.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 16:22 | 5249117 TBT or not TBT
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Maybe they should have made it a declaration of non recognition of "Syria" as a legitimate sovereign state, so it would be possible to advance our interests and by extension those of western civilization without conniptions about the various artificialities standing in the way of effective policy.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:51 | 5247940 Man Who Was Thursday
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You dont seem all too different from Keynes fans you so much hate, since they cant read a proper argument either.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:35 | 5247838 Bunga Bunga
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If you like your CNN, you can keep it.

Your so called "god-I-want-to-suck-Putin's-tiny-cock" short-stories carry much more real information than 24 hours of mainstream media brainwash.

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:09 | 5248039 SAT 800
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There's lots of other forums on the interwebs you could join; maybe you'd like one of them better? Or maybe you could just get cancer and die; either way would be fine.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:10 | 5248045 SAT 800
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"It used to be smart---" How the fuck would you know? you wouldn't know smart if it bit you in the ass.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 15:00 | 5248691 madcows
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Smart, Like an 800 on the SAT?

You know, I heard about this kid once.  He wasn't terribly bright, but he got some cellophane from a cigarette pack and laid it over all the multichoice circles and proceeded to "Fill in" all of them.  And it worked.  He got them all right.

I guess it all depends on how you measure "Smartness".  I've known some really brilliant dumbasses.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:52 | 5248007 JuliaS
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ZH rule #2. When somebody makes a pro-Obama / pro-EU comment, go and check their registration date. If it happens to be within a few months of Nuland's Ukraine coup, you know which club they belong to.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5247503 Bloppy
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There's a guy even worse than Obama, his name is RFK Jr.:

http://tinyurl.com/kghwaha


Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:40 | 5247870 TBT or not TBT
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Fortunately he is more open with his misanthropic craziness.   Obama channeled his own hatred more effectively, by following Alinsky's advice.   Work within the enemies' system.  Dress conservatively.   Speak well. And obviously, wash and groom yourself well.  Train yourself like a method actor to exude "reasonable"   

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:01 | 5247676 Mr.Sono
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Hitler would be proud.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:18 | 5247439 achmachat
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hey! it takes hard work to prove you deserve the prize!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:19 | 5247445 Duc888
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....but, but, but it's different with O-Bomb-A. These are Freedum Bombs.

Shrub used Democracy Bombs.

Totally different animal there...

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:23 | 5247470 Winston Churchill
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Candy coated shrapnel.

Its the hard center you don't want.

I wonder what reception our dear leader will recieve at the UN this week ?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:20 | 5247453 toady
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Thanks drones.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:20 | 5247454 goldhedge
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Saudia Arabia, Qatar next maybe?

 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247515 Dr. Richard Head
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Was talking to a family member last night and she was telling me how "scared" she was with all of these beheadings by this ISIS monster in Syria. I mentioned to her that Saudi Arabia was doing the same to their own people and cut the heads off of some 30+ in the last month alone for pretty code violations of their doctrine. She paused, thought for a moment, and then said, "But they did it to two Americans".

Lordy, lordy...

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:57 | 5247615 JustObserving
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Maybe you can point out that Obama has droned Americans as young as 16 without a whiff of protest in the land of the free, home of the brave.

Does he get honorary membership in ISIS for that? After all, he funded and trained ISIS.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/how-team-obama-justi...

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:58 | 5247665 Dr. Richard Head
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Damn. I wish I would have had that one at the ready. So many atrocities, so little time.

In the end, the scared 'Merican woman would have tossed that off to the side too, as those "children" were Muslim.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:43 | 5247886 TBT or not TBT
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You might have defused her ardor by replying "sure they were technically Americans, but they were also card carrying journalists, and journalists first"

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:17 | 5248068 Emergency Ward
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j.o. you are being charitable by not mentioning the countless dead eight-year-old children classified after the fact by the adminstration as terrorists who were victims of drone bombing by the Chief War Criminal.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5247464 Pantalone
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You didn't bomb that.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5247474 falak pema
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Its time that the ZH forum finally decides if Potus Obammy should be characterized as a "Muslim plant in US" or as a neo-Septimius Severus; emperor of New Rome doing what all emperors of Rome do.

Its one or the other! 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5247501 Spastica Rex
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Not on ZH, Mr. P.

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them...

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:36 | 5247559 falak pema
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Well now we know who invented the boomerang : the first man to believe in your Janus doctrine. 

Those Aussi aboriginis learned from the mammal with a reversed back pouch, ole kangaroo, by inventing their bent warrior/hunting artifact.

Watch out for that boomerang's head-bang ! I guess it has a feel of a Jihadist scimitar.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247511 Winston Churchill
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Why not both ?

Depends what his real objective is, like Lenin co-opting the Russian revolution.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:42 | 5247574 McMolotov
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On the one hand, he's a faggy wearer of mom jeans who hobnobs with celebrities and the super rich while instigating wars all around the world, predominantly in Islamic countries. On the other hand, he's a "top secret Muslim" who will bring Sharia to the US.

I know where I stand on the issue. He's so obviously a puppet for the elites that it's beyond question at this point.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:32 | 5248143 Demdere
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Yes, all modern presidents are more effect than cause.  Neither the President nor Congress can control the bureaucracies, e.g. CIA and NSA and FBI and Bureau of Weights and Measures (or whatever minor agency refused to deliver documents to Congress recently).

At the same time, $ for political campaigns now primarily comes from the very rich, and few politicians can withstand that.

And few consider that Obama's Republican opponent, whose name I forget thank god, would have done all of the same things as Obama is doing, at least judging from the campaign rhetoric.

US foreign policy has been more and more controlled by Neocons, with big allies from the Jewish community in the US, who are deluded by Netanyahu's Neocon politics.

And very few can seem to check the ideas in their head against reality and enforce the rule that 'ideas in my head should be good for my life and the lives of the people I love".  Those wars do zip for the average taxpayer.  Ditto for most of the ideology being thrown around.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:25 | 5247486 Racer
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Well the inventor of the Nobel prizes themselves, Alfred Nobel, invented dynamite! 

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5247490 Pimp Daddy
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Can    I      go       get      my        clubs        now

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:50 | 5247927 TBT or not TBT
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He couldn't very well invite these guys to a beer summit, or sick the IRS on them, or offer them obamacare waivers or a even a studiously permissive attitude by the DOJ, SEC, FBI, and so on.  ISIS didn't work within the system.  Big mistake.   Obama has no time for radicals who ignore Alinsky's rules.   They're dead to him.  

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5247495 NoWayJose
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Don't forget Egypt -- while not technically 'bombed' -- US policy there did 'BOMB'

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5247507 Saratoga
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But but....they tell me he is Muslim.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5247508 intric8
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Just how far up Netanyahu's ass is Obozo's nose? Or is it his lips? So hard to tell. Anyone know?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:29 | 5247523 Downtoolong
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The spin is so fast and furious now it’s making everyone sick.

The Gov is claiming this latest bombing mission received support from a broad coalition of Arab States. I couldn’t help but notice there wasn’t much detail on precisely what kind of support that was. And certainly they weren’t about to say the Arab support was only for attacking ISIS in Syria, but, never for attacking ISIS in Iraq, because……well just because I guess.

By the way, Obama may have missed an opportunity for another Muslim ally:

Dear President Obama,

My uncle Amuf is in the high command of Nigerian Air Forces. He assures me he is capable of persuading the Nigerian government to assist you in bombing ISIS. This will require $20 million dollars to refurbish and prepare our fighter jets for the mission. Please wire the money to my account, as my uncle does not want to arouse suspicion of bribery before agreements and plans within my government are secured.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:34 | 5247831 Freddie
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Keep watching TV. Your viewership keeps them in control.  Dumb sheep.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:32 | 5247524 RattNRoll
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“We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran"

 

-Gen. Wesley Clark

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:04 | 5247695 Mineral-Invest
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Well, what about Yemen? Huh? Huh? That's all! Yemen!!!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:54 | 5247950 TBT or not TBT
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Yemen isn't a country in the sense that, say, France is.  There's nobody in charge.  It's like what Col Willard found at that bridge under siege in Apocalypse Now.  Madness.   No system at all, confusion and conflict.   

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:36 | 5248162 Kirk2NCC1701
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Seems to me that the DOD isn't just the Military arm of the Knesset/Mossad, but of the Saudis and Wahhabists also, who are out to eliminate all opposition -- be it in carbon fuels, or in Islamic religions (eliminate moderate Sunni and all Persian/Iran-based Shiias).

Come to think of it, none of these People are "Arabs" per se, so it's also an ethic war and of Ethnic Cleansing.  It's a Total War (cultural/ethnic, economic, financial, monetary, military, political, religious).  Clearly Israel, Jordan, KSA, the Emirates, and Qatar have quietly reached common ground and working toward a common goal:  Eliminate all competition and threats.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:31 | 5247525 Fresh
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Hussien is trying to piss them off to jihaist proportions, its working

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:32 | 5247529 Dr. Engali
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Thank goodness we have a man like President Obama  bombing Muslim countries in order to protect our freedoms. I don't believe that the American people fully grasp the danger these extremists are to the world. With their advanced military capability they can strike our nation and cripple our economy. I for one thank God everyday that we have Nobel peace prize winning president dropping humanitarian bombs on brown people in order to protect our way of life.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:37 | 5247563 intric8
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You're giving MillionDollarBonus a run for his money

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:14 | 5247667 intric8
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Thank heavens Obama has the political will to prioritize the war on terror by any means necessary, even if it necessitates the de-prioritization of far less pressing matters like illegal immigration and border patrol. We need a decisive and assertive leader. The world has never seen a threat like ISIS before. The magnitude of what that terrorist organization accomplished in iraq - taking town after town in record time with minimal tactical prowess and almost no weaponry while encountering virtually zero resistance - testifies to their determination and danger to the free world. A strong, peace-loving president is exactly what our country needs to stamp out this existential threat. The effort is justifiable and should be undertaken with peace as the end-goal.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:24 | 5247783 venturen
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you mean the extremists you enabled by killing their previous dictator and then skip town without fully reenabling a functional security and government. Imagine if the USA left Europe the month after WWII was over....and didn't reform and rebuild their countries. Or Japan....look at the mindset change there. 

Obama as with Kerry and Clinton...are dreamy liberals more worried about how to enrich their cronies than making hard choices to right the world. 

Without strong global leadership and followup WWI led to WWII....without America's strong control it would have gone to WWIII. Instead Germany and Japan were reformed....and the Soviets and China were controlled.

But Chicago hacks like Obama have no understanding how the world works...to them it is just about syphoning off the riches of the people they govern for a select group. Ever see how many billionaires Obama hangs out with or Clinton.... Or how much payoff Bill Clinton and Gore got after enabling the massive financial killing of the sheeple.

Trillion dollar deficits for all and gutless foriegn policy! Can hardy wait for step three Hillary and the final solution!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:31 | 5248141 Dr. Engali
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I didn't enable anything. Maybe you should choose your words a little more wisely.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:56 | 5248283 Kirk2NCC1701
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Remember, "They hate US for our Free-bombs" - Kirk

Hey, if YOU could print money* at will and make the rest of the planet use it, and then used that money to buy and use Arms & Bombs at will, you too could afford your own 'Coalition' (of Partners-In-Crime) and you too would have... tons of enemies, who hate you for your "free-bombs".  This is Self-Fulfilling stuff we are seeing, yet the brainwashed "Christian Zionists" think it's "Prophecies coming true" and are happy to play along.  [sigh]

These gullible, malleable  Born-Again morons** also don't realize the TPTB used the novels 1984 and Brave New World for inspiration, rather than as a warning.  Alas TPTB also use Star Trek tech for inspiration in the development of new WMDs and war toys.

* "Money" = Debt-Currency

** Moron == An adult, with the mental development of an 8-12 y.o. child (Clinical definition of Cognitive Development).

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:33 | 5247534 XitSam
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He bombs them because they are a religion of peace and he won the Peace Prize.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:35 | 5247547 Road Hazard
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But I thought Putin parked S-300/400 surface to air missiles in Syria? Either Putin lied, Russian military hardware is junk and can't hit squat or Bashar al-Assad is afraid to push the 'On' button?!?!

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:40 | 5247575 gatorengineer
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nah, the CIA will borrow some soviet SAMs from the Ukraine and pop an American plane, or perhaps use an Israeli patriot, and call it a Syrian SAM, and take out one, perhaps this mornings downing was a mistake and they thought they were getting a hornet..........

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:39 | 5247578 Winston Churchill
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The freighter they were on was mysteriously sunk in harbor before unloading.

An Israeli sub was reported as missing shortly after.

A little something not reported in MSM.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:19 | 5248418 Kirk2NCC1701
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If so, then what's they need to step up their "Spy vs Spy" game, and play more then 2 chess moves ahead.

If it were me delivering arms from A to B -- especially if destination B is a real hot-spot for TPTB -- then I'd make DAMN sure that nothing could intercept, attack or sabotage it.  In fact I'd be on the lookout for such specific events and have Contingency/Mitigation plans in effect.  But then I play Chess, not Checkers, and more than 2 moves ahead.  Insofar these events of "sabotage.il" are still happening, it speaks badly of  the Russian arms delivery process and personnel.  This is more of a Critique than a Criticism.

/ p.s. Russia, I think you should hire me as a Project Manager or a Security Consultant, since you clearly... "fall short" of your target fairly regularly (Performance issues), when it comes to arms deliveries and successful usage. / sarc humor (spoken in the cheeky tone of a Pierce Brosnan, ex-007).

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 12:01 | 5247679 bid the soldier...
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That's Putin for you!

Not telling you exactly what weaponry he's given to Assad and where it's located.

Hardly playing by the Marquess of Queensberry rules, what?

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 14:22 | 5248437 Boubou
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What happened -Obama forbade Syria to use it's weapons to defend itself.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:36 | 5247560 Spungo
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Awards don't really mean much. Hitler and Stalin were both Man of the Year.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 13:12 | 5248052 SAT 800
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Very true; the mass propaganda organ goes through some very strange contortions as it manufacturers our opinions for us.

Tue, 09/23/2014 - 11:41 | 5247584 Billy Shears
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As I've said before, America is the Dorian Grey of Nations. It sees itself as this beautiful image of republican freedom and enterprise when in fact it is nothing but a hideous, cancerous and sphylitic corpus spreading death, destruction and worse wherever it goes. What a sham and a shame.

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