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The Chart No Fed-Loving Equity Bull Wants You To See

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If tapering isn't tightening.. and it's about the stock not the flow... then equity bulls have nothing to worry about. However, this chart suggests both of those flawed assumptions are entirely incorrect...

 

 

h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer

 

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Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:00 | 5252844 NDXTrader
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What if Japan, Europe and China aren't tightening, but instead moving to full-blown?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:03 | 5252858 NaiLib
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Then you will se continuation of USD up and S&P will start to go down

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:08 | 5252875 somecallmetimmah
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"...will start to go down..."

That's what she sadi?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:10 | 5252887 Say What Again
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Its interesting to note that the red line (SP500) was moving ahead of the blue line (FED Assets), until recently.  How do we interpret the change in the interrelationships here?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:14 | 5252894 101 years and c...
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S&P has a lot of catching up to do (to the downside).  which is why they say: stairs up, elevator down.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:16 | 5252896 seek
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Non-Fed agents were acting in anticipation of Fed moves, and now they're not. Presumably that means they don't trust the Fed or that the Fed isn't telegraphing their moves as clearly, or that the Fed was using agents in the past to influence the market and now they're doing it directly.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 16:49 | 5253282 stu11
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"that the Fed was using agents in the past to influence the market and now they're doing it directly".....Exactly.  There does not appear to be a need to hide what they are doing.  No real traders left.  Just directly manipulate stimulate.  Much more efficient.  

 

Forget what you knew from the past.  Ride it to the end.  When the crash comes, and it could be years, the money lost won't be at the top of your concerns.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 16:57 | 5253299 QEternity
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The spice must flow

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 19:21 | 5253800 TheRedScourge
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Or that they don't know how to play the Fed's moves anymore, whether or not they trust the Fed. I suspect that it started out where people were trying to anticipate whether what the Fed was planning would work, then it moved on to anticipating what the Fed will do next, and I think now it is moving toward anticipating how the majority of others will anticipate, and since no one really knows anything, things have kind of just gone up and down fairly randomly.

 

Or in other words, perhaps everyone has lost the ability to differentiate between signal and noise, and so their further actions are just creating more noise. I suspect that means the next big upward move in the markets will have to be in response to some surprise "dovish" Fed announcement (untaper?).

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 18:46 | 5253704 Ben Ghazi
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"red line (SP500) was moving ahead of the blue line (FED Assets)"

 

 

So............................................, is that offside or icing?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:11 | 5252876 NDXTrader
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Like during the 80s? Oh, wait... A strong dollar may just be foreigners parking themselves in $s to maintain purchasing power...that money will find its way into the stock market. A strong dollar also may be CBs printing the shit out of Euro, Yen and Yuan, converting it to dollars and buying ETFs. Your college textbook didn't include examples of QE to this extent. All of that fiat will go somewhere

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:10 | 5252886 somecallmetimmah
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"All of that fiat will go somewhere.." *wink* *wink*

That's what she said?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:08 | 5252873 somecallmetimmah
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"...moving to full-blown?"

That's what she said?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:02 | 5252850 LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit, the Fed Balance sheet is not shrinking.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:04 | 5252860 max2205
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Only if you add in Belgium is the Fed expanding

 

Come on

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 19:27 | 5253833 TheRedScourge
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Reverse Repo anyone?

 

Total QE = official QE + Shadow goverment bond buying + new normal reverse repo expansion + Chinese millionaire real estate purchases

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:10 | 5252879 somecallmetimmah
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"...is not shrinking."

That's what she said?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:09 | 5252880 Bell's 2 hearted
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check left axis

 

still positive but growth rate slowing

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:12 | 5252888 LawsofPhysics
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Thanks, but yes, I still doubt the 2% ROC number...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:19 | 5252914 BandGap
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You are correct sir. if anything it is in a static mode.  What you see is a shrinking of the increasing. This is commonplace in the new normal.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:07 | 5252872 cheeseburger901
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Mass Fraud should be a crime against humanity.

 

Please support this petition at whitehouse.gov.

 

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mass-financial-fraud-should-be...

 

The petition needs 150 signatures to go "live" to the public. 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:38 | 5253001 DOGGONE
Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:40 | 5253010 DOGGONE
Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:55 | 5253083 silentboom
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The Fed created the fraud you fucknut.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:13 | 5252889 Dr. Engali
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There is no tightening going on in a world where all the central banks are working in unison.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:16 | 5252901 The worst trader
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Posted as the S&P marches right back to 2000 like nuthin is wrong!

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:17 | 5252904 taketheredpill
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So -20% between now and January 31st?

 

Would have thought that expectations of the end of the spice would have kicked in a couple months back, as per previous cycles.

 

Unless this time "investors" have become trained to expect newest version of QE (BTFD also means never Sell if you are already fully invested).

 

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:17 | 5252906 paul steinert
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As long as ZIRP persists, the bulls don' need no steenking charts.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:18 | 5252908 Yen Cross
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  F/X is completely disconnected from this equity rampfest. Yes usd/jpy moved back to the 109.00 area (50 pips) but I would have expected a much bigger move on the back of that .05% usdx spike and the 1.36% rise in 10s.

 This looks like a good old fashioned squeeze in front of the Jobs & Durable Goods releases manana'.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:31 | 5252973 sosoome
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It sure squeezed me outa my shorts today!

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:42 | 5253028 Yen Cross
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  Short it later. Maybe Asia late-late, or Europe a few hours before the jobs release. You should be able to get a few of those pips back. Over bought on the hourly.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:19 | 5252915 gatorengineer
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Massive short squeeze into the quarter close......  Buy Stawkss......LOL

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 15:28 | 5252953 DOGGONE
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I DON'T KNOW, so BOTH flow AND stock are shown:
http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 16:19 | 5253183 ivana
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this is actually bullish for stocks. cause it means they can start pumping again in future. cause they have CONTROL.

And you have Brawndo. Brawndo's got electrolytes.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 16:25 | 5253207 The Phallic Crusader
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so there's a ton of variation in the correlation on the right - what are the biggest anti-correlative [of you will] affects?

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 17:09 | 5253337 Herdee
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You need devaluation of Yen and Euro and lots of liquidity coming into the end of tapering.Foreigners playing it safe buying U.S. assets like crazy.Money coming into NY and disappearing from those markets.Big demand being placed for Dollars.It'll drive the EUR/USD down to 1.20,just give'r time.The Fed and Treasury will hold up the bubble pig at any cost.Inflation or Bust.

Thu, 09/25/2014 - 08:11 | 5254885 AdvancingTime
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For months the major world currencies have traded in a narrow range as if held in limbo by some great force.  This has allowed people to think we were on sound footing as central banks across the world continued to print and pump out money chasing the "ever elusive growth" that always appears to be just around the corner.


Weak demand for goods and most of this money flowing into intangible investments inflation has not been a major problem, but the seeds for its future growth have been planted everywhere. John Maynard Keynes said By a continuing process of inflation, government can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. 

While there are not many Bond Vigilantes there are a slew of  Currency Vigilantes and they are ready to make their presence known. Weakness in the value of the Yen, Pound, and Euro must not go unnoticed. More on why this may be a signal that currency trading is about to get very wild in the article below. 

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/caution-alert-currencies-may-get-...

Thu, 09/25/2014 - 08:15 | 5254890 AdvancingTime
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This is all a game of move around the horseshit. The recent drum beats and flames of war have distracted many people from focusing on the economy. The markets are extended beyond beyond, all this comes at a time when the IMF is calling for more QE. It seems this might be a good time to review the reasons this is economically unsound and a bad idea while markets are setting new record highs and economies continue to struggle.

The policies of the last six years have yet to produce the desired and expected results promised. As a consolation many economist, bankers, and those who have benefited greatly tell us we would be in far worse shape if we had not taken this course. Now it seems Central Banks and the IMF are clueless on how to proceed and a policy going forward. More on the lack of a clear path in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/central-banks-and-imf-clueless-on...

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:11 | 5266386 Warrior85
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