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Is This The Most "Confused" Fed Ever? Just Two Headlines

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We can now put to rest the debate whether the "most transparent in its communication" Fed, is also the most confused (if not to use a far more derogatory word) ever.

One one hand, Bloomberg reports that Fed Chairman Yellen laments that "she wants investors to be prepared for the possibility that the Fed will raise interest rates sooner than they currently project" and yet "her words are going unheeded."

 

 

And yet, on the other hand, at virtually the same time, Bloomberg also reports that the man who many say is truly in charge of the Fed, and certainly its market-moving branch, the 147x levered New York Fed, Goldman's former employee Bill Dudley warns about the need for “patience” on interest-rate increases and may require letting the economy run “a little hot." By a little hot, he means letting the global assets bubble Citi warned about yesterday, grow to truly monstrous instead of merely epic proportions.

Completing the comedy, a third Bloomberg commentator, Richard Breslow, accurately summarizes the situation:

"for Fed to rail against what the market is doing seems to me the height of absurdity. They should probably put all their speeches together, read them to each other, and find some way to talk coherently to the market."

But why? After all these Princetonian demi-gods are all the bullish case has left: if the baffle with bullshit strategy fails, it's game over, as the last thing the Fed can afford is to tell even a remote version of the truth. Said otherwise, the moment the Fed starts talking coherently to the market, is the moment the market plunges.

So until then, monetarist gods talk in mysterious ways.

 

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Wed, 09/24/2014 - 07:59 | 5250948 digitlman
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FULL OF SHIT.  BOTH OF THEM.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:08 | 5250966 Arius
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they dont matter ... just actors to keep the show going ...

 

the guy who is pushing the buttons (beyond the curtain so to speak) - thats a different matter

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:13 | 5250976 The Limerick King
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The Fed has some spurious hinting

Regarding the money they're minting

A closer inspection

Reveals misdirection

It seems to be bullshit they're printing

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:20 | 5250993 Took Red Pill
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How things really work; all markets are rigged. Great video explaining it from GATA; it's about half an hour but worth the watch

http://vimeo.com/106757886

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:30 | 5251013 fiftybagger
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One quadrillion thumbs up for The Limerick King

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:42 | 5251043 SoilMyselfRotten
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Turn those thumbs-up into dollars and he could barely pay off all the derivitive bets

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:46 | 5251057 Dungholio
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There was a young lady from Brizes

Who had breasts of two different sizes

One was so small it was nothing at all

The other was large and won prizes

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:18 | 5250986 TBT or not TBT
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It's a coded message to the top .1 percents' money managers.   Says we are still with you guys on this wealth effect gambit, even though it is plainly a horrific failure for the underlying 'economy', the economy being shorthand for what the little people are able to make of their little lives.   

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:00 | 5250950 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Run yellin'

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:03 | 5250952 gcjohns1971
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Yellen is going to get back in line or be put back in line.

The Largest banks of Europe and the US OWN THE FED...well, all but the open market committee.

Reading between the lines, the USG is scared that the treasury will explode. The banks don't care so long as they own most of the real capital when it does.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:58 | 5251084 ThirteenthFloor
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Reminder - Four important events.  There is a NEW boss in town.  Treasury will implode.

US Passes Pay China First 2013

http://rt.com/usa/pay-bill-first-house-070/

US gives China direct treasury computer access 2012

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-can-now-monetize-us-debt-directly

US Leases Gold to China 2000

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-02/gold-leasing-case-disappearing-...

China Most Favored Nation 1996

http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N27/china.27w.html

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:03 | 5250955 skbull44
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I used to be indecisive; now I'm not so sure...

 

http://olduvai.ca

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:05 | 5250962 gcjohns1971
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Point of View....

Finite planet, infinite universe, no boundary between them.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:44 | 5251050 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, but the devil is in the details. While anything may be "possible", you sure as shit had better spend the capital and resources you have at your disposal wisely.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:09 | 5250970 overmedicatedun...
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the reason the market did x or y..gets alot of people paid. for those in the club, they are told what the market will do, and profit..for the rest you have analysists and news and graphs and good ol finance tv. the fed is just a show for the little people to think there is a reason for why they get fucked.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:04 | 5250958 dcau1
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Baffling the masses with bullshit. Good strategy.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:35 | 5251491 e_goldstein
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“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”  W.C. Fields   The Fed employing a sideshow carny strategy, now that's fucking befitting.
Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:06 | 5250964 NoWayJose
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Dudley cites a 7% drop in oil prices for 'low inflation' this year - yet the Fed always ignores oil price increases (volatile food and energy?) - and any drop in oil is WAY more offset by food price increases. And if Dydley is looking at oil prices, how can he see no inflation since 2009?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:12 | 5250972 vyeung
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they have to confuse becoz they are ready to implode the US economy. When you confuse the enemy, you get tactical advantage. Nothing good is coming.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:12 | 5250974 Cosworth
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Yellens right , they will put them up and realise they've completely fucked to shit up just to put em down again

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:13 | 5250975 yogibear
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Bingo! The Federal Reserve is trapped in 0% land. With no way out. And the market knows it.

Yellen is just expending hot air now. Bluff all she wants, it won't work.

All the fed has to work with is QE rhetoric.

 

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:14 | 5250984 spinone
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Once a fiat currency (fractional reserve currency) is debt saturated, its game over.  Now its just a question of when.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:13 | 5250977 youngman
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It used to be the Fed was a quiet..secretive group....they did not do much in the public...now its have a meeting and run to a microphone as fast as you can......anyone .....

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:21 | 5250987 Bioscale
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They must keep the bullshit flowing via internets. Being silent could have the meaning of uncertainty and fear.

Buy physical and enjoy the ongoing show.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:16 | 5250985 buzzsaw99
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fed sez buy AND sell bitchez

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:20 | 5250990 yogibear
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The bots are all set to ignore any talk of rate hikes because the Federal Reserve is trapped like rats and normalize rates.

The stock market has become a runaway freight train and the Fed has lost any control. The fed will just  keep printing and buying treasuries until the dollar dies and the market is at well beyond insane levels.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:22 | 5250995 ekm1
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Nobody cares about the Federal Reserve. 

A lobby has to control the White House, Senate banking committee and House Finance Committee in order to control the Fed.

 

The Fed cannot be controlled directly, it can only controlled via those three institutions, again:

 

-Senate banking committee (legal boss of Fed)

-House Finance commitee (legal boss of Fed)

-White House (executive power, but not boss of Fed)

 

Right now Bank Lobby controls all 3. 

 

Military complex used to control all 3 but ceded power voluntaritly after soviet union fell, only to be back stabbed by Bank Lobby which is INSOLVENT now.

 

Fed simply executes orders it receives from those 3, nothing else, that's why FOMC members are mostly clueless academics, order takers.

 

Geithner used to tell Bernanke what to do, Benny executed the orders, congress committees approving of them.

 

Conclusion: Yellen is waiting on orders what to do from Jack Lew and congress banking/finance committees

Benny didn't know what to do. Yellen doesn't know what to do. Both academics. By definition, they do not know what to do when the excrement hits the turbine

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:24 | 5251001 yogibear
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Goldman controlls everyone above. All the orders come from Goldman.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:33 | 5251014 ekm1
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goldman has no army, no guns, no snipers, no humvees.

GS has literally paid congressmen for years already, that's it, to control the Fed

Not for long, not for long.

 

Assassinations coming very unfortunately. That is what history tells us and history is never wrong

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:44 | 5251048 gcjohns1971
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No... but Goldman ensures that all of the above get paid and that the political consensus that ensures they keep getting paid continues.

Is it the dog with big teeth that is in charge?

Or is it the one who feeds and trains him?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:49 | 5251066 LawsofPhysics
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You remain the #1 optimist on ZH.  If the average american was even semi-intelligent they would be revoluting and demanding a return to a constitutional republic.  They are not, they are bought off with stupid shit.   When the SNAP cards stop working, then and only then might we get a chance to "clean house" on so many levels and it won't be pretty, but nothing of value comes without work and sacrifice.

same as it ever was...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:15 | 5251145 ekm1
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If not, Saudis would halt oil shipments to USA

Wonder why Obama called Saudi king and why Saudis are "hosting" training of rebels in Syria?

 

Something is cooking.

Saudis and Military want strong USD, not SDRs.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:00 | 5251323 Winston Churchill
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Then why did they switch their sovereign wealth fund out of USD into SDR's ?

Give us an answer that fits your prognosis.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:11 | 5251383 StupidEarthlings
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I think your half right. 

When the snap stops..it wont be the govt that gets house cleaned..its the shelves. These snappers dont giv a rip bout whos doin what..they want the free shit tto continue. .and it will.

It aint laws of physics sadly...its law of jungle .

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:22 | 5250996 the not so migh...
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Satan makes his minnons say some funny shit

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:28 | 5251006 intric8
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Equivocate.. obfuscate.. then pontificate

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:48 | 5251060 Winston Churchill
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You missed masturbate , this is a giant circle jerk.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:29 | 5251010 Being Free
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Well that explains the low volatility.  Such a clear, consistent message leaves no room for uncertainty.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:30 | 5251012 Tenshin Headache
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Dudley is telling the truth.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:49 | 5251067 yogibear
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Dudley wants a huge bubble. He just doesn't want it to pop unless Goldman is setup to profit from it.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:51 | 5251070 LawsofPhysics
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Oh really, so you believe their measure of inflation is correct then?  LMFAO!!!

I suppose that you also think havings markets at "all time highs" while interest rates are at "all time lows" also makes perfect sense...

good luck with that.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:20 | 5251157 pods
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We used to say some funny shit too, back when we were kids and would get high and look at the stars. 

Like how can space go on forever?  
If it goes on forever because it is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into?

Of course, we weren't in charge of the monetary policy for an empire.

pods 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:06 | 5251114 Tenshin Headache
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(by which I mean, the pedal stays to the metal)

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:54 | 5252270 Cacete de Ouro
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Dudley was running a little hot with that hot little Colombian hooker in Basel last month...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:39 | 5251035 Seasmoke
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Fed only has words left.....No action, just words.....they might be even losing this final tool 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:09 | 5251119 negative rates
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They have the full faith and credit of the congress, so their voice is loud. It is also the wrongway to run a country.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:45 | 5251051 RaceToTheBottom
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It was soooo much easier with the Briefcase metric that Greenspam used.  The size of the Briefcase dictated everything...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:48 | 5251061 SpanishGoop
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One "warns" the other one "says" but the both lie ?

 

 

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:50 | 5251069 yogibear
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Yellen is just a puppet.

Dudley is running the show with NY trading desk.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:53 | 5251073 AdvancingTime
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Regardless of what you call it the "Federal Reserve Nightmare" or the "Yellen conundrum", the box Ben Bernanke made when he painted both himself and the Federal Reserve in a corner remains. Bernanke has by passing the chairmanship to Yellen escaped from the QE trap but left the rest of us fully in its grasp.

With a policy of loose and cheap money  and an inflation target of just 2% the Federal Reserve  continues to please those gambling that not fighting the Fed guarantees profits. I wish someone would let the Fed know we have already passed their inflation target.

As many Americans are forced to pay higher food, gasoline, and health insurance premiums any thought that inflation is not higher has come from the false illusion brought from lower payments on things like auto loans and mortgages. This is a one off and will not continue. Trouble lurks ahead. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/06/exit-strategy-from-qe-remains-elu...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 08:59 | 5251094 SISSYFUSS
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I've posted this before but I feel as we get closer and closer to 'it', it bears repeating:

I am the People, the Mob Carl Sandburg  I am the people—the mob—the crowd—the mass. Do you know that all the great work of the world is done through me? I am the workingman, the inventor, the maker of the world's food and clothes. I am the audience that witnesses history. The Napoleons come from me and the Lincolns. They die. And then I send forth more Napoleons and Lincolns. I am the seed ground. I am a prairie that will stand for much plowing. Terrible storms pass over me. I forget. The best of me is sucked out and wasted. I forget. Everything but Death comes to me and makes me work and give up what I have. And I forget. Sometimes I growl, shake myself and spatter a few red drops for history to remember. Then—I forget. When I, the People, learn to remember, when I, the People, use the lessons of yesterday and no longer forget who robbed me last year, who played me for a fool—then there will be no speaker in all the world say the name: "The People," with any fleck of a sneer in his voice or any far-off smile of derision. The mob—the crowd—the mass—will arrive then.

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:07 | 5251647 StupidEarthlings
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And then I we the people will choose another king to.. leaD us so

We dont have to think for ourselves. .

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:20 | 5252088 SISSYFUSS
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not sure if it's you that downvoted me but isn't that the point of the poem?

 

"The mob—the crowd—the mass—will arrive then"

 

I'm personally a believer of Candide's counsel... "we must cultivate our garden"

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:08 | 5251118 Canbankr08
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This is my experience with typical financial media, you can't beleive anything that they say really. Today they will say one thing, tomorrow things will be different and they will have a new explanation, then next week they will come up with a third story about the same thing. Is any of it true or is it all just bullshit? I'm thinking the latter, its all just a show for the 24hr news cycle.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:14 | 5251135 homiegot
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Yelen Turtle slowly moves but quickly snatches a piece of lettuce...

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:15 | 5251142 StupidEarthlings
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Is monstrous bigger than epic?.. I thought epic was bigger.

:/

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:54 | 5251301 starman
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I think they should have a  "the price is right" style TV series betting and forecasting every espects of the f markets and financials with all the clowns involved.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 09:55 | 5251303 moneybots
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One one hand, Bloomberg reports that Fed Chairman Yellen laments that "she wants investors to be prepared for the possibility that the Fed will raise interest rates sooner than they currently project" and yet "her words are going unheeded."

 

Yellen's words ARE NOT GOING UNHEEDED.

Investor's drool over every word coming out of the FED.  Those words are contradictory.  The language of "considerable time" was NOT DROPPED. Had the language been dropped, investors would have taken note. 

The FED can't talk out of both sides of it's mouth and expect investors to know which side to listen to.



Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:10 | 5251379 Hohum
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Zero interest rates

Will everything go to shit?

It will, soon enough.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:21 | 5251419 Downtoolong
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It's Yellen's Baskin Reserve, 31 different flavors of guidance, something for everyone to enjoy.

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:49 | 5251540 orangegeek
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barry appointed yellen - yellen is owned by barry

 

and barry wants mid-term success -no more shellackings - so barry must keep markets up

 

fed board members appointed by twelve regional reserves

 

this is just infighting - and once again, barry is the cause of it

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:00 | 5251607 MATA HAIRY
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these FED bankers know they  have to stay in the news if they want those big speaking fees when they retire.

 

The most dangerous place in america to be standing? Between a Fed Banker and a microphone....

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:00 | 5251608 MATA HAIRY
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these FED bankers know they  have to stay in the news if they want those big speaking fees when they retire.

 

The most dangerous place in america to be standing? Between a Fed Banker and a microphone....

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:04 | 5251610 Wild Theories
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My wild stab:

If you take the jawboning angle, Yellen is simply trying to flush people out of bonds (again)

Whilst Dudley is simply telling everyone it's safe to invest in stocks

 

sure, they screwed up by mentioning interest rate timing differently(they probably need a few interns for press release proofreading), but they are still trying to deliver the same message:

get out of bonds, get into stocks

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