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A Nation Dividing: Mapping The World's Significant Separatist Movements

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The Scottish referendum and waves of secession movements - from Spain's Catalonia to Turkey and Iraq's ethnic Kurds - are working in different directions to the world's status quo sustaining leaders' hopes for increased centralization and 'planned' economic growth. More than half a century after World War II triggered a wave of post-colonial nationalism that changed the map of the world, buried nationalism and ethnic identity movements of various forms are challenging the modern idea of the inviolable unity of the nation-state, not just in Europe, but across the entire world...

 

 

Source: Stratfor

 

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Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:36 | 5251504 IridiumRebel
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Don't forget the one in the Southern US.

 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:41 | 5251514 Bloppy
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Or California - it's been slowly breaking away from the US for many years.

 

Elsewhere:

Semper Chai: how did media miss Obama's disrespectful salute?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:41 | 5251518 IridiumRebel
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They didn't miss it...they just didn't report it.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:43 | 5251524 TBT or not TBT
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That kinda stuff really cracks them up.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:54 | 5251566 NotApplicable
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What are you talking about? It was all over the news on the internet yesterday.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:00 | 5251604 TBT or not TBT
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Let me know when SNL starts lambasting the fuck in any pertinent fashion.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:04 | 5251627 Creepy Lurker
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It got a hell of a lot more coverage than this: http://science-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/09/22/1551256/bioethicist-at-n...

Something I find far more worrying.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:18 | 5251747 Creepy Lurker
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I see someone is a fan of govt. death panels giving us all the needle when we reach a certain age. LOL

You'll change your mind when you get older, sonny.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:15 | 5252062 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen. Stratfor Bitchez!

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:49 | 5252242 KnuckleDragger-X
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There's a special exemption for the elite....

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:55 | 5252275 SilverRhino
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Kissinger and Soros first.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:43 | 5251525 Dr. Richard Head
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But Bush....http://twitchy.com/2014/09/23/but-bush-pathetic-libs-compare-obamas-disg...

Who gives a shit about a salute when "our troops" are sent into the battlefield to "protect our freedoms" while our freedoms are stripped away at home. 

22 military suicides a day should be the concern.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:47 | 5251537 Mercury
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Reagan started the salute-the-soldiers thing but it's really an inappropriate bit of showboating.

The president is a civilian.

Why does Obama's left arm blending into the paint on the helicopter anyway?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:51 | 5251558 NotApplicable
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And you don't salute when your head is uncovered.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:54 | 5251573 TBT or not TBT
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Yeah, it's not something done with casual insouciance, like you don't mean it and want to show you don't mean it.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:32 | 5251840 Charming Anarchist
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Meh.  It looked like he was shielding his eyes from the glare of the Sun. 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:20 | 5251756 madcows
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uh, sorta.  he's the commander in chief.  but hey, i wouldn't want him to salute me anyway.  i don't want respect from a wet fart.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:54 | 5251574 NotApplicable
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Cali is so deep in debt to Uncle Sugar, they can't ever leave.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:57 | 5251588 TBT or not TBT
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Her mind is bond issue twisted,

She got her bullet train plans.

She got a lot of government union employees  

That she calls friends

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 13:24 | 5252414 crazybob369
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California is one good earthquake away from separating from the US.....literally.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 14:30 | 5252737 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"Or California - it's been slowly breaking away from the US for many years."~

This is the latest communique from the Southern San Gorgonio Pass People's Libation Movement:

"Clock-wise."

The message was intended to enlighten, (ahem), which direction to stir the people's separator once the last ingredient, (half&half), was added. It was in response to counter-revolutionary heresies suggesting an alternate direction.

"We are the leading separatorist movements in all of Alta California", explained the Movement's spokesperson, Panochey "El Chi-chi" Luis, who frequently had been identified by various sources as the cabana boy at the posh Rancho Que Carajo.

"Dat dude ain't me", fumed Chi-chi from behind the bar on the veranda as he prepared the Movement's signature libation.

"He's jus' a..., como se dice, a copy-cat!"

Disclaimer: Separators are never stirred.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:41 | 5251515 Dr. Richard Head
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As well as the state of California looking to split up.  Decentralization is a great signal that liberty is somewhat on the minds of all people.  However, it's a long road to a stateless soceity that I dream of.  Sighhh.........

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:42 | 5251523 IridiumRebel
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...or Western Maryland or Northern Colorado or....

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:49 | 5251547 TBT or not TBT
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Or Eastern Alameda county.   I want nothing to do with the devolving shitholes the cities, schools, courts, and cops in swaths of the west side have terminally become.   Can't get a CHL to save your life here, and yet we have to walk their streets once a year to show up for jury duty for some gang shootout trial or some such horror.  Fuck it, let's issue them a book of toe tags like you get for deer hunting season and let them have at each other, over there.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:18 | 5251740 Uncle Remus
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Why is it that most of the beautiful places in the US are populated by some of the ugliest-minded hive-oriented assholes and in due coarse manage to FUBAR it for all of us?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:11 | 5252041 FeralSerf
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It's natural selection. God's Chosen People naturally take the best parts.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:26 | 5252119 Uncle Remus
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*due course*

Sheesh. Sorry, public school edgamukashun sneaking out.

Then again, "coarse" could work.

Your call.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:48 | 5251541 whirling tword ...
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LOL... I'm ready to start one in Texas!!!

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:12 | 5251696 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Come and take it!!! Bitchez!

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:09 | 5251663 rubiconsolutions
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Lost in this whole story about secession is the fact that there are a lot of individuals who have already seceded. Even here in the good 'ol US of A. It doesn't matter if they want to carve up one giant turd - California - into six smaller turds. They would still be living under the same constitution and federal structure. Individuals need to secede from the state. Of course that is considered loony and those that profess their independence are nutcases, right? I am doing everything in my power to not be part of the collective and it's difficult. Americans have been inculcated since childhood to conform with social norms and those that think independently are ridiculed for it. As a voluntaryist I abhor the idea that there is absolutely no mechanism of withdrawing my consent to be governed. The social contract is the biggest con in recent history and Lincoln was the biggest purveyor of tyranny in American history. 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:13 | 5251701 Uncle Remus
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Galt. You're talking about going Galt without physically going anywhere.

 

Been there and staying.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:30 | 5251825 IridiumRebel
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Sovereign men are terrererisissisis.......

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:49 | 5251931 rubiconsolutions
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Going Galt. Exactly. I've been told by people including family to "love it or leave it" The best thing I've read on the subject lately is here.

A quote - 

"To get out of the social contract, we are told, we must leave the ruler’s territory. That places the ruler’s rights above our own as a starting point, which voids any semblance of “equal justice.” Leaving the ruler’s territory means spending large amounts of money, a tremendous amount of time to make arrangements, leaving our jobs behind, leaving all our friends behind, and leaving our entire families behind. In other words, we can only escape the social contract by undertaking difficult, expensive, and heartbreaking actions.

Imagine a Fuller Brush salesman coming to your door and offering you an assortment of brushes for thirty dollars. Then, when you politely decline, he pulls out a gun and says “No! If you don’t want the deal, you have to abandon your house. Either pay me or leave.”

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:27 | 5252129 Uncle Remus
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<---- Go Galt in place

<---- Shelter in place

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:44 | 5252097 The Wizard
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"Lost in this whole story about secession is the fact that there are a lot of individuals who have already seceded. Even here in the good 'ol US of A. It doesn't matter if they want to carve up one giant turd - California - into six smaller turds. They would still be living under the same constitution and federal structure. Individuals need to secede from the state. Of course that is considered loony and those that profess their independence are nutcases, right?"

Good point. In the thread on the out of control cop gives me an indication that a good number of posters here don't get it.

There is something called a commercial jurisdiction. The sheople follow along and volunteer into the commercial jurisdiction not giving any thought to the government applications they sign. At the point of signing the application we subject ourselves to the commercial jurisdiction and most constitutional protections go out the door. We volunteer into the jurisdiction. As you said the individual has to resist and the resistance comes from not entering into the commercial jurisdiction which converts a "right" into a "privilege". "Driving" and "operating" are defined as actions in commerce and as such are considered privileges.

Have you ever asked what is the definition of a Class D operator on a standard driver's license in most states? Can you show me where class D is defined in most state codes?

Learn the law and how to use it to your advantage.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:11 | 5251683 Uncle Remus
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You mean where they are moving the gun manufacturing facilities?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 13:05 | 5252317 NoWayJose
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The South lost 'Civil War 1' because the North had the weapons and manufacturing base. With all the factories relocating either overseas or to somewhere below the Mason Dixon line, the North no longer has that advantage.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 14:15 | 5252673 Hengist
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I doubt it one state senator in Tennessee was quoted about modern secession as saying it was out of the question because they would have to take Memphis with them.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:39 | 5251510 Dr. Engali
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I guess the U.S. isn't part of the world. 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:49 | 5251545 Chupacabra-322
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We'll, on the other hand there're many Free Liberty Loving American who want to succeed from the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:51 | 5251554 TBT or not TBT
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It's the other way around.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:40 | 5251513 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!  Define "significant" please.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:39 | 5252174 Man Who Was Thursday
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You mean Northern Ireland and Scotland?

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:43 | 5251521 TBT or not TBT
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States often overlap various nations and regional ethnicities, atop spanning regions that differ wildly in how they make their living.   Take California, please.  

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:49 | 5251549 Spooky Polish
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They missed at least one : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 10:53 | 5251557 gatorboat
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Ha ha, none in America, land of the sheep, home of the slave.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.  --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:01 | 5251616 Occam's Norelco
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There is also Hawaii and southern Thailand. 

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:09 | 5251669 viator
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Missing a number of good candidates including, Sicily, Veneto, N. Cyprus, Sardinia, Tyrol, Canary Islands, Wales, Scotland, Texas, Vermont,

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 12:12 | 5252047 FeralSerf
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Western Canada, Alaska and Montana.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:15 | 5251717 swmnguy
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The modern nation-state increasingly refuses to meet the needs of its citizens.  That's not even its purpose.  The citizens in general seem to like the "rah-rah" team spirit of national patriotism, but the less their actual needs are served by the State, the less attention they really expend on the State's interests.  As their interactions with the State become increasingly one-sided and not to their benefit, apathy will transform to hostility.  That's when it gets interesting.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 11:38 | 5251867 NunNun
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It would actually be nice if Balochistan became independent.  Then we could declare war in their next terrorist attack, instead of letting them hide behind Pakistan.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 14:06 | 5252628 ebear
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They missed the breakaway republic of ebear, but I guess that's understandable, since the BRE is only 160 X 100 ft with just two citizens.  Our immigration policy is very strict BTW.  You can only stay in the BRE if you have relatives there - visas are issued for two weeks only and are non-renewable, after which you have to wait a year to reapply.

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 14:22 | 5252698 Againstthelie
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Nation comes from natio, lat.: birth.

Therefore there is no British nation. Or Czechoslovakian. Or Yugoslavian. Or Soviet. And no US nation. Or what kind of ominous common biological ancestors do Black and White US Americans share? To each his own!

No matter how hard the freemasons, globalists and marxists try to deny natural nations, while they invent all kinds of "nations" that suit their globalist goals, it stays a lie and the US will end like all artificial constructs that declare things equal that were created not equal by nature and/or god(s).

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