This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Obamacare Architect Says Society Would Be Better Off If People Died At 75
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The American Dream blog,
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel, says that society would be far better off if people quit trying to live past age 75. His new article entitled “Why I Hope To Die At 75” has the following very creepy subtitle: “An argument that society and families—and you - will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly”. In the article, Emanuel forcefully argues that the quality of life for most people is significantly diminished past the age of 75 and that once we get to that age we should refuse any more medical care that will extend our lifespans. This is quite chilling to read, considering the fact that this is coming from one of the key architects of Obamacare. Of course he never uses the term “death panels” in his article, but that is obviously what Emanuel would want in a perfect world. To Emanuel, it is inefficient to waste medical resources on those that do not have a high “quality of life”. So he says that “75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop”.
Emanuel believes in this philosophy so much that he says that he would like to die at age 75. Of course he has no intention of committing suicide, but if he happened to drop dead once he hits his 75th birthday he would be very happy about that. The following is an excerpt from his new article…
I am talking about how long I want to live and the kind and amount of health care I will consent to after 75. Americans seem to be obsessed with exercising, doing mental puzzles, consuming various juice and protein concoctions, sticking to strict diets, and popping vitamins and supplements, all in a valiant effort to cheat death and prolong life as long as possible. This has become so pervasive that it now defines a cultural type: what I call the American immortal.
I reject this aspiration. I think this manic desperation to endlessly extend life is misguided and potentially destructive. For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop.
And so Emanuel plans to start rejecting pretty much all medical tests and treatments that will prolong his life once he reaches that age…
At 75 and beyond, I will need a good reason to even visit the doctor and take any medical test or treatment, no matter how routine and painless. And that good reason is not “It will prolong your life.” I will stop getting any regular preventive tests, screenings, or interventions. I will accept only palliative—not curative—treatments if I am suffering pain or other disability.
This means colonoscopies and other cancer-screening tests are out—and before 75. If I were diagnosed with cancer now, at 57, I would probably be treated, unless the prognosis was very poor. But 65 will be my last colonoscopy. No screening for prostate cancer at any age. (When a urologist gave me a PSA test even after I said I wasn’t interested and called me with the results, I hung up before he could tell me. He ordered the test for himself, I told him, not for me.) After 75, if I develop cancer, I will refuse treatment.
Similarly, no cardiac stress test. No pacemaker and certainly no implantable defibrillator. No heart-valve replacement or bypass surgery. If I develop emphysema or some similar disease that involves frequent exacerbations that would, normally, land me in the hospital, I will accept treatment to ameliorate the discomfort caused by the feeling of suffocation, but will refuse to be hauled off.
A couple of decades ago, an article like this would have sparked mass public outrage.
But today, this article hardly even gets any attention.
That is because this kind of philosophy has spread everywhere. It is being taught at colleges and universities across the United States and it is even represented throughout the ranks of the Obama administration.
For example, Barack Obama’s top science adviser John P. Holdren believes that implanting sterilization capsules under the skin of women could be a way to reduce the size of the population and increase the quality of life for everyone…
A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.
Yes, this guy is a total nutjob.
But he also has the ear of the man occupying the White House.
And we are not just talking about a few isolated crazies like Holdren. This agenda have been fully embraced by our politicians in Washington.
For instance, did you know that the federal government actually has an “Office of Population Affairs“?
On the website of the Office of Population Affairs, you can find information about abortion, female sterilization, male sterilization and a vast array of contraceptive choices.
U.S. taxpayers are paying for all of this, but most people don’t even know that it exists.
Of course this agenda has been moved forward by both Democrats and Republicans for decades.
And the woman that is very likely to be our next president is also a very strong proponent of this philosophy.
When Hillary Clinton accepted Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award back in 2009, she spoke glowingly of Sanger…
In a speech to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America Awards Gala, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that she admires “Margaret Sanger enormously, her courage, her tenacity, her vision.” Secretary Clinton said she is “really in awe of” Sanger for Sanger’s early work in Brooklyn, New York, “taking on archetypes, taking on attitudes and accusations flowing from all directions.”
But the truth is that Sanger was deeply racist and was determined to do whatever she could to help control the population growth of the poor. The following is one of her most famous statements…
“The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Hillary Clinton is also a huge supporter of the United Nations Population Fund. If you are not familiar with the United Nations Population Fund, it is an organization that funds abortion, forced sterilization and brutal eugenics programs throughout the developing world.
Population control advocates such as Emanuel, Holdren and Clinton are fully convinced that they are doing the right thing.
They actually believe that the world will be a better place if less people are born and if the elderly do not live as long.
»
- 30143 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Since you're so willing to give the power of life or death for you to others, I have decided the world would be better off without you. See where giving that decision to others might be a problem?
Not willing at all. Just like I'm not willing to kill children born with severe brain damage at birth. But killing the severely mentally handicapped at birth would assuredly benefit society as a whole since they take from the public coffers and produce nothing in return.
Margaret err. Hank, that's a dangerous path, are you sure your going to make the cut I impose when I attain power? It will be a combination IQ and psychological test to weed out tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.. Good luck!
He's not wrong if you look at it from the right perspective........All he needs to do now is to start supporting the killing of handicapped babies and he could work for the Nazis anyday.
Why stop there? There are 48+ miliion draining 'society' via SNAP cards, 11+ million on SSDI, all those worthless retired dolts getting SSI, and anyone eligible for an earned income tax credit - let's just call them the FSA. All these fuckers are a drain on 'society'; why don't we just make them useful to 'society' and turn them into a new soylent product?
Fuck your 'society'. If I make it to 75, I'll be waiting for you with my scattergun 'cross my lap.
Emmanuel doesnt understand what you just said - that is the core of the response - once they set the criteria - then the game is offensive action and it is 1969 all over again
understand - the Vietnam War wasnt ended by the Military or the Politicians - it was ended by the KIDS all of which are cresting 60 at 10,000 a day as we LIVE AND BREATH - what happened - "Hell no we wont go" was the mantra - we DECIDED THEY WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE "US" MURDERED FOR THE FUCKING DOMINO THEORY - and what did they do to continue perpetual WAR - they ENDED the DRAFT!!!!!!!!! WHY? THEY ARE VERY AFRAID OF US!
those who were there are 10 million +++++ STRONG now - they know they stopped the WAR - once they get close to Nazism Eugenics - well beyond their present trajectory offshore - and come to the FINAL domestic plan - It will be the sole reason to live - of the ten million there are at least 500,000 good men already equipped and set for the response and would love the challenge and proof of existential existence
EMMANUEL - PLEASE, PLEASE, MAKE MY DAY !!!- I HAVE TEN YEARS UNTIL YOUR D-DAY - ONCE I HAVE NO REASON OTHER THAN TO FOCUS ON YOU AND YOUR SICK FUCKING GAME - ALONG WITH 500,000 ++++++++++++ GOOD MEN
ITS OVER!!!!!!
FUCK YOU - COCKSUCKER!
I don't think society would be better of without them the 75+ crowd. But it doesn't make sense to for the rest of society to pay for the huge costs to keep people alive past that age. If you want to live past that with any quality of life, take care of yourself, exercise, dont eat shit and save your money because you're on your own.
Maybe tell the 75 and older you have $35k in health care left use it wisely.
no-longer-productive members....... i see people like this all day. I never asked them to be removed from the face of the earth...only that they be responsible enough that I don't have to pay to take care of them.
Hankguy
Society would be FAR better off if the government were in no way involved in this discussion.
Yet they insist in inserting themselves into every aspect of our lives no matter how inappropriate it is or how intimate the concept.
Hankguy
'no longer productive members'...how do you assess that?
Must someone be earning income? Maybe they are writing their memoirs...maybe they are helping out in ways you can't see. Would you have the government do an assessment of each individuals prodductivity?
There is a problem with blue sky thinking. Science is hard. When you start with the premesis that anything might be right you are starting over. Use your brain. This shit is evil and those who just 'toss it out there for discussion' have an agenda. They should be called on it before that idea grows into the evil that was the Nazis.
"Obamacare Architect Says Society Would Be Better Off If People Only Lived To Age 75"
Is he wrong? Would society not be better off if people died at 75? It may be morbid and impractical, but would society not be better off if it could eliminate its no-longer-productive members?"
And when some one decides you are "no-longer-productive" they can kill you? I think you are not only unproductive, but counter-productive. So, by your logic, if I had the petina of legitimate power, I could off you, and you would be happy about it? Somehow, I think not.
Who do you want to give the power to determine who is and who is not productive enough? We are not fucking farm animals. Again, another sick, creepy memeber of the ZH "community."
While most older folks may no longer be "productive" in the standard physical or mental sense, older folks carry wisdom that they can spread to other generations which is arguably more valuable than some person producing a widget in a factory. Too bad nobody listens to old folks anymore. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Take out the entire Emanual New Bolshevik bloodline and the world would be lightyears better. Bred from a terrorist and taking on their father's path.
Yes. This piece of garbage is a Rothschild agent just like his vicious criminal ballerina brother. 1/2 the dumb-shit commenters on this thread have no idea what they are looking at which is what puppet government/ global governance is all about.
Their dad was an Irgun terrorist working for Rothschild to set up the State of Israel.
(Nothing against the Israeli people)
He is a cheap actor. A eugenics gopher. He is a creation of the fake corporate media...A front man to express the will of the Corporate Fascist Entity.
He is also an accomplice to mass murder several notches below the Rockefeller / IBM eugenics front and monster, Bill Gates.
This is Raquel Welch at 73. Looks like someone who should just up and die, doesn't it. These liberal fuckers have always been genocidal.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2427840/Raquel-Welch-73-out...
Loo-kin' good. Not as good as she used to, but for someone (significantly) over 50...
It's true. My grandmother could barely leave the house. She would also have trouble getting to the bathroom. I will end it myself if my condition gets that bad.
That's fine as long as it's your decision not someone elses.
Well that settles it. Lets kill everyone based on your personal anecdote.
I’m 69. I can barely leave the house today. Getting out of the bathroom is hard. My legs and arms are all swollen up…….. I moved 12k lbs of stuff from my old house to my new house yesterday… And no I won’t end it myself just because I hurt today…
Didn't you hear your over 65 you dont get a new house, more productive wage slaves have been assigned that house, sarc or is it? Wait a few years..
theres that ...
OR
Maybe if we just get rid of all the "architects" like RahmBro and his ilk ... we might be even moar better!
Not mine. But worth passing on:
These are the tragic last days of our Republic. Our Constitution is all but gone. We have IMHO the most evil, deceptive traitor ever to walk this earth leading us to utter destruction. He will create an Ebola pandemic here even if it kills him, he will murder our sons, husbands, wives, fathers and innocents all throughout the middle east and Africa. He will instigate WW3, he will destroy our economy, sovereignty and reputation throughout the world, he will try to destroy our morale and resolve to be free and he will try to crush our liberty. He will not close or protect our borders, he will support all the large corporations (Monsanto etc.) even when it is killing us. He supports Agenda 21 and the NWO and will work to destroy everything we hold dear. There is so very much more, you know it as do I. This is so sad, I feel so helpless to effect any change, just running my mouth off here doesn't do any good. I'm sure that most of you reading these comments are of a similar mind set also. Sometimes I want to go back to "sleep" and not know any of this... I was ignorantly happy then. With all the "good" people in the world, we have to get the absolutely worst monster possible... and the possibility of getting out of this imploding mess is like those caught in the twin towers, impossible to escape
Yes, but don't get too fixated on blaming Obama.
Blame his handlers. He is just an extremely compliant lacky and puppet.
If you want to follow what the medical and pharmacological establishment prescribe you won't live past 75, other than on its umbilical cord.
put on a tinfoil hat...everything will be fine.
Put on a condom or get on the pill & please for the love of humanity do not Procreate.
This is Finnish writer Pentti Linkola — a man who demands that the human population reduce its size to around 500 million and abandon modern technology and the pursuit of economic growth — in his own words.
He likens Earth today to an overflowing lifeboat:
We are now just the Children of the Korn!
Speaking of 500,000,000, the Georgia Guidestones just got a new addition...
(vids and photos)
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2014/09/23/georgia-guidestones-get-2014-u...
there's probly a gmo to target maximum age coming
JUST DIE BITCHEZ!!!!!
Ol' Zeke didn't really mean it. What he meant to say is all you useless eaters should be euthanized at 75 so he can enjoy his life until 120 or so without you stealing all of his rightful medical resources or having his precious bodily fluids corrupted.
The way things are in the world 75 sounds good to me. But obviously who wants to suffer in misery, hence right to pass on.
By this logic justice Ruth Ginsburg should get her decrepit liberal butt off the Supreme Court.
...and Nacy Pelosi, born March 26, 1940, has about 6 months left to live! Get busy grafting or get busy dying!
Great catch. I'll personally volunteer to drop that thing off at the glue factory for processing.
Sounds a lot like AGENDA 21
is Holdren still Obama's Science Czar ?
Knee deep in the misanthropic senility of right-wing forums, I can't say that I disagree.
Ah the socialist utopian dream. A little injection and you can go to ELSEWHERE.
Insurance companies have been running financial triage for old folks for years. This guy is notable because he has input into government policy. Scary, yes, but not new, unfortunately.
anyone over 30 should be converted to soilent green.
should i live to the day, i volunteer to be the person that puts the bullet in this ahole's brain should he volunteer to be treated to his apparent wishes of death on his 75th birthday.
Ebola will thin the Africans, War will take care of Europeans and Death Panels in America will insure that there is enough room for the kinders....... As for central and south Ameirca all you have to do is close the borders.
These Marx-Engels Frankfurt School progressives are anti-human at the root of their ideology. Zeke is a disgrace to medical doctors.
Dr. Josef Mengele is designing Omamacare? WTF!
So he'd be 'happy' if he died at age 75? How would he be happy after he died?
And no life extension for the elites? Really? How old is David Stoneyfeller right now, like 98...
Ditto Henry Kissinger....
The Emmanuels (LOVE that nam right out of Kafka): raging little asshole hypocrites.....
His Job One is to stay right with Hillary-and she's just going to be spreading her wings at age 75....
We're not talking death panels, nor withholding necessary health care. But for those who have lost their physical and/or mental health to the point where life is a struggle, it makes sense that they, not the government, their families, or doctors, have the right to decide to let nature take its course, and refuse things like organ transplants, dialysis machines, or other modern medical treatments to squeeze out a few more miserable years.
Yes, of course, if your life is unbearable you should have the choice to end it.
Not the gov't.
Exactly. The idea should be "after a certain point" not at a certain age. There are thousands, if not millions, of people 75 or over that are healthy. Meanwhile, there are elementary school kids that are 300 pounds overweight, type 2, heart disease, failing knees &hips, etc.
The death panels (insurance companies) already weigh these factors when deciding who to deny. Arbitrarily stopping hip replacements for people who CAN PAY hurts the bottom, just as performing a hip replacement on a 500 pound 20 year old who'll never get a job and NEVER PAY does.
It's all about the money boys!
I think you are wrong there. They would say you have a choice, while withholding necessary care and thanking you for declining it's non-provision. The death panels will be run by politically appointed ghouls who would selectively provide care based on contributions and support for the political gangs.
Plan on 75 years? I’m 69 years old now in reasonable health and I have never heard anything so stupid. So they are planning REAL death squads? However, I believe Zek and his other liberal friends could do us all a great service should they choose to volunteer to leave sooner (got to watch which words you use today) to bring their average down to 75…
Psycopathic Eugenists at work.
Those who don't pay income tax are either the super rich or multinationals (such as GE) need to die before age 75. Let's make that the law.
i dont wnat some elsworth tewey making the decision, but I have to say, in general, he's right. too many brain dead resource sponges being kept alive because of fucked up religions and moronic social taboos etc.
the eskimos would go sleep on the ice when they became a burden to their family unit. the selfishness of expecting to be kept alive at any costs... is bull shit. especially when you add in trust attorneys and estate planning that moves assests off to obscure places, so that medicare and medicaid can pick up the costs.. when the person was wealthy prior to estate planning.
How ironic that his opinions are similar to those of Dr. Mengele.
TRANSLATION:
"Even with the Baby Boomers still working and contributing their taxes we still run trillion dollar yearly deficits. Now, the Baby Boomers are going to start retiring, stop paying taxes and start collecting Social Security and Medicare. But, since there is no way in hell we can pay all those retiring Baby Boomers the Social Security and Medicare benefits we have promised them, the only option is for them to die."
With all the GMO foods that you are eating and the fluoride that you are drinking (completely banned in Israel now), you will be lucky to live past 70:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_AHLDXF5aw
CHEMTRAILS! THE SKY IS FALING. you people crack me up.
Yesterday, the U.S Department of Agriculture (USDA) gave its final approval to Dow AgroSciences Enlist brand corn and soybeans, genetically engineered to withstand both glyphosate (found in the widely used Roundup weed killer) and massive amounts of 2, 4-D, a key substance in Agent Orange—the defoliant used in Vietnam found to cause a constellation of health problems and birth defects.
http://ecowatch.com/2014/09/18/usda-dow-gmo-corn-soy-glyphosate/
You don't even understand what any of those words mean. I won't try to deconvert you from your religious views on this. Its like you think the world is 6000 years old. lol
lol. Moron.
You crack me up.
I have a relative who is working at one of Obamacare Call Centers who told me many people are paying and paying up the ying yang for insurance but there are "system errors and problems" so they are still uncovered. When they go to get a refund for all they have spent my relative said they put in a ticket for it, but supervisors are saying they will NEVER get their money back because it all goes to the IRS.
It's all too late. The Younger generations have been subtly indoctrinated that "old people" are somehow disgusting and it's ok to get rid of them.
Ask him to update his opinion when he's 74. And btw, people who eat well/healthy and get some physical activity can be extremely healthy and robust well into their 80s and even 90s.
He's not saying we should execute people in their 70s. He is saying that major medical procedures are not a benefit to the elderly. His primary concern is not the societal cost, but even more the lack of individual benefit. If you are healthy into your 80s, by all means have a good time, but most individuals are winding down by then, and even if they are not, they are one serious ailment or fall from having their quality of life permanently alterred.
exactly. hip replacement for a 80 yo with dementia is idiotic.. and yet.. fairly common at this time. stupid, and unsustainable!
I dont know why you are getting down arrows. Thought zhers understood math and the troubles with fighting nature. No centralized individuals should be making these choices to kill people, but they have already made the choice to extend life. This is just reverting to what should be and reducing entitlements, no?
It's only a small step to go from witholding medical care at 75 to witholding food and water for the "unproductive" in the collective, Comrade.
You got it juggs, the cops should hassle those old farts to death, right.. Cuz its the law..
Exactly. The press is sensationalizing this and there are many here that hate him for his last name.
Zeke E Manhole belongs in the same class as the likes of Josef Mengele... What a scumbag.
Now you know why we have Zerocare... That clown needs to be euthanized by a couple of Chicago gang bangers ASAP.
P.S. You can start with Warren Buffet and Alan Greenspan Zeke.
A dyslexic octagenarian may just dispatch the man because he is currently 57 yrs old.
Talk to all the old worthless farts that sleep in congress/senate. How old is bill gates (close enough)?
rockefella, rothchilds, soros....hey this guy might be on to something (start with the super rich and see how it works).
I agree. Fuck those fucking fucks.
I strongly agree with this policy. Most of my relatives have durable medical powers of attorney and do not rescucitate orders in place. My grandfather waste away is wasting away, and it is such a curse to him.
Eat dicks. My granma was driving into her mid 90s and lived to be 104. She died the day after Obama won the election in 2008 cuz she knew the best was over. Get some rope and make a final necktie for yourself. Sounds like your family will not miss you.
75 is a completely arbitrary age. I've seen guys that age working out with weights who look like they are 50 and others how are a total mess at 40. Some people are mentally with it into their 90s, while others lose it decades before. Chornological age can be very different than biological.
That said, he should have the right to do as he pleases, as we all should. Doctors see firsthand the cost and low quality of life of trying to keep ill patients alive for a few extra months or years and realize it isn't worth it in many cases, so I get this aspect of what he is saying.
Doctors see firsthand the cost and low quality of life of trying to keep ill patients alive for a few extra months or years and realize it isn't worth it in many cases, so I get this aspect of what he is saying.
What are the criteria for determining that a sustaining a life "isn't worth it"...and moreover who gets to apply those criteria? It's like the argument that an unborn's life wouldn't be worth it - so no life is better than a "bad" one.
Edit: ANY age is an aribitrary age.
It should be up to the individual, not the doctor or government to make the decision. The issue is who bears the cost for the 95 year old who is bedridden and requires $2 million a year to keep alive. If the individual can pay himself, great, there is no dollar cost to the system, but there may be a cost in terms of scarce resources being allocated. Just because he can pay, does that mean he should get treatment to the exclusion of a younger, poorer person? What if he can't pay? Should society bear the cost? Time a doctor spends with him can't be spent with someone who can recover and be productive.
These are tough issues and he is deciding that for him, the cost to society is too great to keep him alive past 75. Again, he shouldn't decide for everyone and no one should decide for him.
And I don't think it is the same argument for an unborn person who has potential for a full life ahead, who could come up with a cure for cancer or make some other great contribution to society.
You made my point. Thanks.
There is only "scarcity" since the central planners became invovled in the 60s.
I have a friend who had his 90 birthday last week. He sails a competitive 40 ft yacht offshore, he trades daily on the internet and is good company and can stay up all night eating and drinking. This idea sohould be enough for the WH to send Predator drones as it rivals Hitler, Stalin and O bin L in it's evilness.
My grandfather on his deathbed told the attending nurse his mother died at the age of 105 during childbirth.
Ebola Cola anyone?
Mmmmmmm, Tasty!!!!! : )
This is insane.
First many people do well into their mid 80s. Many without any healthcare to prolong life.
This guy is an insult to the title doctor of medicine and I hope this gets wide circulation to discredit him as a source of advice.
As a doc of 40+ years I'm embarrased by his words. They should not have been said by a person in his position.
I wish as well... But you know they wont. That would be anti semitism.
He's lying to himself.
Zeke should jump on a plane and go get an EBOLA Sandwich, from his rootdom.
Not everyone can have the Ariel Sharon treatment.
If he is in fact 57 - and would be glad to buy it at 75 - then he ought to be very concerned with gun-toting dyslexics. Like em.
I agree with him. But I was born yesterday.
What more can we expect but government controlled lives and deaths.
Going to watch V for Vendetta again tonight with a nice single malt by my side.
Here. This should help expedite the program?!!!
I wonder how 99 year old David Rockefeller feels about this. Maybe he's excluded.
Livestock older than 75 are, like old roosters, too tough to eat and they usually don't have any assets remaining to "harvest".
I'm all for the Soylent Green option - sign me up.
Rich people can try to live for ever if they want; frankly, I don't really care.
Yeah, The future is best represnted by the liars, cheats, thieves and total psychopaths and sociopaths (Best of the best they are!). Let's here it for the conniving!
It saddens and angers me all the same how this once great nation has become a cesspool of souless, commie-marxist assholes with no regard for liberty, the people, and an absolute obsession with authoritarian rule.
Every day we seem to dive deeper into the abyss.
if your sad.. its because you are plugging into the propaganda everyday.. downloading faux, limpdick, etc. you feel what you think... so y u think sad?
Oh you're so right! Let's everybody ditch this negative place and go see what the Kardashians are up to! So fun!
Listen you needle-dick geek - no one is 'plugging into the propaganda'. its understanding history; understanding how a nation founded on liberty, limited-government and a civil-society looked to the past and understood that a leviathan government destroys all. I understand the reality of where we are as a country and it pisses me off and yes it is fucking sad that we have swayed so far from the foundation of our nation. Now go back to downloading child porn and get the fuck off this site.
Liberal theology 101: Part 79b) we know what is best for you, including how long you should live; Part 84c) individual sovereignty has no place in a centrally-controlled 'society'.
Coming soon - a trial balloon about gas chambers.
They come in bubblegum scent for the excess children.
I'm sure he also believes that Social Security should begin at 74 1/2.
Lol. He is a cheap fuck.
Ezekiel 7:8
I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.Lo, that Emanuel guy should know better.
Ezekiel Emanuel can order a self directed suicide in 2032 to set an example. Rahm can self-destruct in 2034.
Couldn't Zekie do it tomorrow with a suicide note saying that if he can do it, you can do it?
Does anyone see any irony to population control enthusiasts who are alive? Even Jim Jones "took one for the team", no?
No irony at all. They are smarter, more compassionate, more ethical, and way better looking than the rest of us. Therefore, since some one needs to control and guide all the lessor beings, they are entitled to rule over us. And since they are absolutely indispensable for the greater good of the rest of us, they must be given special dispensation and previledge. It's all very clear... why don't you see that, or are you in need of some indoctrination and/or re-education?
Forgive me. I need to watch Moonraker again.
(please tell me someone gets the reference...)
err.... no, sorry.
Sorry I wont be around for the Logan Run society think of all the Sandman jobs there will be.
A Scottish surgeon observed: "I was born in Scotland where death was seen as imminent. I trained in Canada where death was seen as inevitable. I work in California where death is seen as optional".
We spend much of our treasure supporting futility in the last 2 weeks of life. No dignity and the outcome is the same. It's actually a good book of business for providers to make sure everyone has a tube in every orifice and that the end game is horrific much of the time. How to be more rational with resources? Is this a liberal plot? Maybe in these dark caverns but not really. Death is not an option; a ventilator at the end is an option. People need to understand how terrible it can be before they get put on the conveyor belt to marginal longevity. Having this discussion and labeling it a "Death Panel" is great political optics and froth fodder for Sarah Palin but makes me shake my head. Most of us in the biz would like to go comfortably at home when the outcome is looming- not at a particular age but definitely at a particular stage. But it ends up more agitprop for the perpetually agitated who are quite at home here.
thank you for injecting some intelligence into this mix
"Most of us in the biz would like to go comfortably at home when the outcome is looming- not at a particular age but definitely at a particular stage."
But, alas, this man is talking about a particular age, not stage. So, he says if you are 75 or over, we should not treat you for say, stage I lymphoma which would be easily treatable, but none the less expensive, or say, baldder cancer, which if caught early is also very treatable with no long-term reduction in quality of life. What about arthritis - may types and many people respond well to various treatment and continue with a good quality of life, though it is chronic and expensive.
And if we move to "stage" not age, then are we to give up on treatment for anyone with, say, stage III or IV cancer? Sorry, you did not pick up those signs bladder cancer early enough. Please sit over there and die.
He is not saying you should choose to deny yourself care, he is saying SOCIETY (and that means government) should deny you care. And that is a huge difference.
These sick fucks want to control every aspect of medical care, always to limit it, except for abortion. This should tell you where they are. They are always on the side of death.
In addition, if you choose to refuse care at any point in your life, you have the right to do so. But do not support fascists who will determine, wheather I like it or not, when and how I will be provided care. That should be MY choice. PS: I am also against forcing other people to pay for my or anyone elses care. You may and perhaps should do so if you wish and can, but let's stop putting guns to people's heads to make them do "the right thing." Why don't we try freedom, and outrightly reject these monsters who want take it away from us and control every aspect of our lives and death.
It's a different set of monsters that control the process right now. You're a profit center until the last possible moment. There's no freedom here. Just trading on ignorance and instinct. When's the last time you rounded in an ICU? It's where I made a living. It's just another form of the machine with profit at the core. I'm not arguing the government will get it better, but if profit rules you'll survive in a vent farm until you're 111. It's God's will...
Yes, there is freedom. It's called a living will, not God's will.
People need to understand how terrible it can be before they get put on the conveyor belt to marginal longevity.
How confident are you that death is the end? It matters much to your notion of "marginal longevity."
You don't have to be confident that death is the end to be confident that the Christian schtick is just more Big Government, only with its Oriental tyrant on a golden throne in the sky instead of a boardroom overlooking the Limmat.
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
He lives in a box where all is known & the religious corporation represents all that needs to be known about the unknowable.
Brought to him by Carl's fucking Jr.
Love the flag Otto!!!! +1
If it's not the end then you shouldn't be worried about the transition timing. Onward and upward. 72 virgins and a lunch date with the maker.
"We spend much of our treasure supporting futility in the last 2 weeks of life."
You've missed the game entirely my friend. Those last two weeks are the final opportunity for pharma and healthco to empty ones bank account before death. This is the most profitable period in the life/health cycle for them. They won't give it up.
Of course if you haven't accumulated enough fiat to make your death profitable, then the rules will change for you. The medical system is nothing less than a "for profit" enterprise for those who wish to accumulate more fiat. Actual health care be damned.
Fuck healthco and pharma! Hope my offspring will execute my wish: pull the plug when I cost more than I bring in!
That was my point.....perhaps I was too clever about making it.
No winder Obama ordered 3,000 soldiers to Ebolaland.
They should make a 'Coffin-dodger' T-shirt.
The guy in this article is 70 years old. But 20 years old in his mind.
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/22/suspect-in-don-frigo-murder-arrested-at-pearson
-F6
Living in America
GOSH, I can't believe Zionists think this way.
Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Controlhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injec...
Mirable dictu.
It's way more simple that you can imagine: there will be no written law, or order. But will be the word of mouth and such public declarations that will compel doctors (compliant ones) to drop the care for 60+ and for poor. No, nothing official, it's just that the doctor will become very busy and will stop giving exams, even to sick people. Otherwise he or she will lose any possibility to advance in career because of bad money management. It's not about dropping care for some categories. It's about money management and the efficient usage of resources.
Free socialism for all! (some terms and conditions may apply)
He's got a point. All the scumbag bankers and politicians are 35+. Euthanize them first and we won't need to implement this.
But why not 35 years? Why not just kill all the orphans, 25 years for mongrels, 35 for blacks, 45 for whites, 55 for mongols and no limit for semites?
"Doctor" Eazykill Mengele is over 35...
Is Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel talking about all people except Jewish people? How come nobody ever points out the fact that this crazy doctor is Jewish because if was Muslim it would be a 24/7 story. The Islamist need to step up and deal with their radicals. The Jews need to do the same.
Of of course we have to through the "Jew" thing in here.
You, too, are a creepy moron.
But I'm not wrong.
Yes, you are wrong. First, he is applying his evil to all people, including Jews. Second, his Jewish faith (I do not know if he is observant, or not) and ancestry has no bearing on his perverse ideas. Third, his ideas are not part of Jewish religeous tradition and doctrine or supported by the Jewish community. Fourth, he does not purport to speak for or on the behalf of Jewish people or the Jewish religeon. If he were muslim, and people, like you, displayed their open bigotry, they too would be wrong headed, again, as long as he did not purport to speak for the muslim religeon or community and have their backing.
Your throwing the "Jew" thing in just displays you open and unreasoning bigotry.
Obviously not waking up with a hard-on any more.
My grandmother is 93 and still gardens, then cans most of her own food. I'm pretty sure there is a correlation. She said the only thing she regrets is not planning on another 15 years when she turned 80. In short, she is an amazing, vibrant woman who loves and is loved. Zeak is a waste and aptly named in worldwar z
Society Would Be Better Off If "The Takers" Died At 75...fixed it.
I say, move the "Death Panel" back into the home.
Doctoring should be cash on the barrel-head.
When granny needs a new knee or pace maker – she pays for it. If she doesn’t have the money, Granny asks her family to take up a collection. They decide if Granny walks or if her heart beats.
As it is now, I’m forced to pay for their Granny. Where’s my freedom?
For a trial run. You know. Just to test the dynamics and see how everyone feels
Let's just implement a program where maybe all Jews and federal employees shall not be given medical care after their 75th birthday.
Does not matter their wealth, health or political connections. It's "The Law."
"Comfort Care."
We will let that go and see how everyone feels about it.
Maybe the government should have a program where bureaucrats and doctors will examine a post-75 year old to ensure that they are NOT receiving medical care.
Now we are gettin' somewhere.
Then we will come back and look at the big picture.
The main problem with these guys and their plans within plans is that they want to lord over a "world of equals" where they are just a little bit more equal than everyone one else.
Animal Farm 101.
Now shoot that ass-clown out of a circus canon into a lake of piranha.
"Let's just implement a program where maybe all Jews and federal employees shall not be given medical care after their 75th birthday."
Again, the sick anti-Jewish stuff on this site is disturbing. Zeke may or may not be Jewish - I do not care, but "Jews" as a people or religeon are certainly not saying people should be denied medical care at age 75.
Check your bigotry dude. Seriously, or seek mental health counseling.
I am sure people have already pointed out that this "vision" can be found in Huxley's "Brave New World" from 1932...
Stand On Zanzibar, new agers' guide to the NWO