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Top U.S. Constitutional Expert: Obama More Extreme Warmonger than Bush or Nixon
Jonathan Turley is perhaps the top constitutional law expert in the United States (and a liberal).
Turley told MSNBC that Obama is worse than Bush or Nixon in launching unilateral, unconstitutional wars:
Other constitutional experts agree.
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I was a lil young, but didn't Nixon end all our wars?
Bombing them to the stone age ya he said that but that was business.
And isnt Obama just a seamless continuation of Bush/Israel foreign policy?
Actually, the threat from terrorists is extremely minimal. If all they can come up with is blowing up airplanes with smuggled on-board explosives which is exceedingly difficult to do, then they have a huge failure in imagination and are afflicted with an excessive amount of stupidity and certainly aren't to be feared. I can think of many ways to inflict mass casualties without having to try the impossible...
Two words (in the "new math"): Defense Contractors', arms manufacturers' and dealers' bribery. Nothing more or less.
Actually, the Supreme Court justices walk up to the top floor everyday and shine the shoes of the Koch brothers and George Soros, that is, after the justices are done kissing their asses...
What a delusion that we live under a Constitution, or that our courts, our president or our congress follow the constitution or our laws. The fourth branch of our government which was presumed to exist by our founders called the press is in cahoots with the other three branches. Nixon abused his power. The Bushs abused their power more. Obama abuses even more greatly. The flaw lies in the false trust the sheeple have that any political or religious or other office sanctifies the holder thereof to follow the rules.
Obama's war is not to protect the American sheeple, but rather to advance a foreign agenda to the sheeple's interest. The way to end their power usurpation is to decry their motives, their lies, and all the supposed information called facts presented by them. The media is the enemy of the sheeple. The delusion is that somehow an argument about what should be constitutionally correct behavior will get results. The most powerful word is NO. No trust; no acquiescence; no support; no compromise; no spurious legal arguments.
NO.
This is all a huge and evil machination and PR campaign. Wag the Dog anyone?
US/Obama ignore all human rights to do as they please. Why waste a good beheading? (probably one they paid for and filmed).
But totally ignore an inconvenient beheading? Also paid for by a regime installed with Nuland cookies and blame to Russia?
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/why-novorussia-will-never-again-accept.html
And this beheading has a corporate advantage in that it was delivered COD. What good business? I say rather. Nazi ethnic cleansing by US sponsored Kiev. This is what US stands for? WHO authorizes this policy?
How come none of the regular Saudi regime beheadings don't make the news?
As I recall the worst have typically only gotten away with criminal behavior for a limited period of time.
BTW, I heard they turned the Supreme Court into a condo for lobbyists. Apparently the Koch brothers and George Soros live on the top floor.
did i tell you how i almost got in the movie turk482 or whatever it was called
while assisting in the measuring of police headquarters, and the fuckers never paid my expenses, in new york, before the building was renovated into whatever it is
now? condos? there was a tarp over a leak on/at the dome and the movie peoples
were yelling over to us to move the tarp for a cinematic consideration. i negotiated
a cash deal of three hundred and then climbed out with a rope around my waist on the dome to move the tarp as best i could, then across the street to collect the cash.
i wonder who lives up there today? likely some spawn of satan, maybe an angel?
Had to guffaw out loud at that. WB7. I sometimes have a hard time seeing any humour in all of this garbage. I appreciated your "sarcastic joke". So true. Made my day.
many thanks to Washington blog as I followed links on the site to "untainted news sites". Some I had already and a few new. Many, many thanks for that.
This is the link http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/headlines-worlds-great-newspaper.html
"mockery". there a key word, it has all become,
in the facade of human description and consideration,
just another mockery of law, justice, leadership, representation
and other stuff. the big mockery we think in. that is
all the digital age has left. not even funny or humorous
anymore, a mere virtual mockery.
musical link forthcoming...
tell me what it is and i'll sell it. something like that ...
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Practically Speaking
"Clinton says Obama asked, tell me what's right--I'll...sell it
Posted by Kyle Prast on Oct. 31, 2008
Elections, Obama 2008, Politics, Socialism / Marxism, THE ECONOMY
Remember when John McCain suspended his campaign and went to Washington to work on the economic crisis?
Obama just said, if you need me, call me.
Turns out, Obama was making a few calls during that time--at least according to former president Bill Clinton.
In a Fox News piece yesterday, Bill Clinton: Obama Got Lots of Help on Economic Crisis Response, Bill Clinton says at a rally that Barack Obama called a round of advisers during the height of the economic crisis and said, "tell me what...to do." In it, Clinton tells a few tales out of school on Barack Obama: (My emphasis)
"I haven't cleared this with him and he may even be mad at me for saying this so close to the election, but I know what else he said to his economic advisers (during the crisis)," Clinton told the crowd at a Wednesday night rally with Obama in Florida. "He said, 'Tell me what the right thing to do is. What's the right thing for America? Don't tell me what's popular. You tell me what's right -- I'll figure out how to sell it.'"
Clinton said when the crisis broke, Obama called his own advisers as well as those of the former two-term president, Hillary Clinton, Warren Buffet and others.
Clinton's comments might give some insight into why Obama didn't want to go to Washington--he didn't know what to do. Who does? We still don't know what the right thing to do was.
The disturbing part of Clinton's insights is the idea that Obama doesn't know what the right thing to do is, but if he is told, he believes he can "sell it."
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http://www.brookfieldnow.com/blogs/communityblogs/43479267.html
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now we see the problem with it. the empty suit strikes again.
there is no leadership, there is no vision and there
is no point to the political theater; it doesn't justify
or cover the craven murderous efforts employed to facilitate
a pipeline from jordan or s.a., through syria to turkey,
to supply europe with a potential alternate hydrocarbon supply
while simultaneously creating demand and business money for
the mic and all the other industrial complex monopolies.
global infrastructure formation creating insanity and hell at the margins
of human existence, it is counter productive and destructive and
foolish. but there is always someone who will say, "i'll sell it."
I think that you should stop pulling your punches and publish the golf round totals for all the presidents.
After 9 holes it counts as a full round.
Obama is a Manchurian Candidate, plain and simple.
"Other Barack Obama foreign policy advisors may also include the likes of Madeline Albright, the great supporter of Iraq sanctions, which killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people.' Third party candidate Ralph Nader wrote: 'The signs are amassing that Barack Obama put a political con job over on the American people. He is now daily buying into the entrenched military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned Americans about in his farewell address . . . . With Robert Rubin on his side during his first photo opportunity after the election, he signaled to Wall Street that his vote for the $750 billion bailout of those speculators and crooks was no fluke.' Time will tell whether the next president exhibits courage or cowardice. Personally, I doubt very much if Obama is another JFK or FDR, but simply another Bush man in black face."
Most of us saw this WAY back in the summer of 2008.
" Progressives who favored the election of Obama, either as their champion for change or simply the lesser of two evils, expressed the most frustration. Upon hearing of his Cabinet selections, most thought his 'Team of Rivals' more akin to the management of the Oakland Raiders than the vision of the Founding Fathers. 'Not one of the 23 Senators and 133 House Representatives who voted against the war in Iraq are on his transitional team or even on a short-list for an important post in his Cabinet,' wrote Eric Walberg, in Obama's Odious Entourage. 'Larry Summers, who was Clinton 's treasury secretary, will head the National Economic Council. Considering that he is a chief architect of the current financial meltdown, we should be wondering why Obama isn't preparing an arrest warrant for him, instead of offering him the most powerful economic role in the world.' 'Obama's key White House position will go to Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois,' wrote Joshua Frank in A Look Under the Hood of an Obama Administration. 'Emanuel, who supports the War on Terror, (and is the son of a terrorist) and expanding our presence in Afghanistan, worked hard to ensure that a Democratic House majority would not alter the course of US military objectives in the Middle East . . . . "
JFK and Obama--Profiles in Courage and CowardiceObama is all about testing for response by anyone willing to challenge his unconstitutional maneuverings. So far...silence, or near silence. Truth is, I think even his radical Left cohorts sit in amazement, though they may worry that they have set precendent for equal treatment by the other side at some point in the future. But its this lawlessness that Obama is trying to foment. He desires chaos.
Imho GW Nixon was never considered a war monger. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. He ended the war in Vietnam and Democrats like Kennedy and Johnson actually got us in to Vietnam.
Vietnam War Timeline
1959 Major Dale R. Buis and Master Sargeant Chester M. Ovnand become the first Americans to die in the Vietnam War during the guerilla strike at Bienhoa
1960 Vietcong Formed (National Liberation Front for South Vietnam)
1961 Vice President Johnson Tours Saigon
1962 Operation Chopper: America's first combat missions against the Vietcong. Operation Ranchhand: Objective to clear vegetation making it difficult for the Vietcong to ambush. US Military then Employs Agent Orange to expose roads and trails used by Vietcong forces
1963 Battle of Ap Bac where the Vietcong defeat the South Vietnamese Army President Kennedy Assassinated in Dallas and Lyndon B Johnson takes over the Presidency Buddhist monks start setting themselves on fire in public places tp protest against the Diem government policy of removing Buddhists from key government positions and replacing them with Catholics. Diem and his brother are murdered. The Diem regime is overthrown
1964 General Nguyen Khanh Seizes Power in Saigon 3 North Vietnamese PT boats allegedly fire torpedoes at the USS Maddox named the Gulf of Tonkin Incident Following the Gulf of Tonkin Incident Congress authorizes President Johnson to "take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression." The US wages total war against North Vietnam
1965 Over 200,000 US troops are sent to Vietnam February: Bombing raids on North Vietnam commence referred to as 'Operation Rolling Thunder'. The air raids continue for three years 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade arrive in Vietnam Battle of Ia Drang Valley Students at American Universities start to strongly protest against the US policy in Vietnam
1966 B-52s Bomb North Vietnam President Johnson meets with South Vietnamese Premier Nguyen Cao Ky and his military advisors in Honolulu American protests against the US policy in Vietnam continue and students are joined by veterans in Anti-War Rallies
1967 Operation Cedar Falls The Iron Triangle of Vietcong tunnels is discovered American protests against the US policy in Vietnam continue and Martin Luther King and others call for draft evasion The US Secretary of Defence Robert McNamara admits that the US bombing raids had failed to meet their objectives
1968 The Tet Offensive: The Vietcong scores a psychological victory Battle for Hue: Mass graves found My Lai village Massacre by US troops Peace Talks take place in Paris between the North Vietnamese and the Americans President Johnson does not run for the presidency and Richard Nixon Elected President of the USA
1969 Operation Breakfast: Nixon authorises the covert bombing of Cambodia in an attempt to destroy supply routes Melvin Laird the US Secretary of Defense discusses a diminishing role for the US military in Vietnam The death of Ho Chi Minh The news coverage of the massacre of the My Lai village by US troops shocks America leading to numerous Antiwar Demonstrations
1970 April : President Nixon extends Vietnam War to Cambodia Tragedy at Ohio: National Guardsmen open fire on protesting students at Kent State University
1971 Publication of the Pentagon Papers
1972 Pressure on Nixon increases to end the involvement of the US in Vietnam and secret peace talks are initiated. US forces apply pressure on North Vietnam by heavy bombing of Hanoi and Haiphong Henry Kissinger is optimistic about the peace talks despite Vietnam opposition
1973 A cease-fire agreement is signed in Paris The end of the Draft is publicised All remaining US troops leave Vietnam Henry Kissinger wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Kennedy ! Kennedy ! You can't be that ignorant. well, yeah, you can be; but it's remarkable. Don't you ever read any books ?
You will see history written on this subject with any number of political biases but I was old enough to see my cousins go there and be in the draft for the service in Vietnam myself. So who is more likely ignorant of the subject? You who just read about the Vietnam War in a book or myself who actually lived through the history of the war? Oh and one other thing what's with the attitude.
JFK and poor maligned but moral Carter are the last 2 presidents that the US could be proud of when looked at by the rest of humanity. After that? Puppets, Idiot children, plain evil oligarchs, wannabe dynasties of corrupt husband/wife; Have I covered the bases of why most of the world is sick and tired of dancing to the corrupt US tune? Plus the guys in the back field. The Zigbe criminal; the Wolf etc....shite guys. Enough.
The idiot children may well repeat again unless the wife clone loses weight/gets a new hairdo and learns to lie without smiling. It is just sick.
Carter? you are not serious?
Hostages taken, followed by the infamous Jimmy Carter Desert Classic. Soviets invade Afghanistan. Which leads to us arming the mujahadeen which leads to al quaida which leads to 9-11. Carter spits in the shah's face, so to speak, and the supposed students revolt and put the ayatollahs in power. the Aytollahs fund Hamas and hezbollah. we end up with MORE unrest in the middle east, as hard to believe as that is. Situation in Iran leads to Iraq/Iran war which bankrupts Saddam so he invades Kuwit to steal their oil. We have first gulf war. the end, sets up the second gulf war which sets up the shit we are in now. there is a direct line from the crap we ae in now to the night at a state dinner in tehran when carter spit in the shah's face.
oh and let's talk about his buddies and the corrupt BCCI bank.....
Carter was an idiot.
and since then, he hasn't found a dictator one that he doesn't like. and every election is fair except the ones in the US , unless of course if a dem wins.
You haven't heard of the US bombing of Cambodia? Look it up sometime. The more you know!
the communists backed way from the peace table because they thought they could win the wr on the ground. Nixon upped the ante and forced them back to the negotiations.
Watch the movie Pork Chop Hill for an understanding of how the situation worked. The movie was about Korea but the exact same thing happened with the communists during the negotiatins to end the Vietnam War.
It's a valid point. What would a president do to win a war that he didn't start? Back at that time America had never lost a war quote on quote. You may call that a war monger but I would not. His presidency did eventually end the war and it was a war he did not start. I suppose if you would call Obama a war monger for continuing what is happening in Afghanistan then the same could be said of Nixon. I suspect you don't think of them in the same way at all and that is simply because of the way the biased media portrays each differently.
Kennedy was going to pull our troops out. One more reason why the bankers and military industrial complex along with the joint chiefs of staff had him killed. Johnson told the military that if they helped him kill Kennedy, "they could have their war."
don't forget that israel was the prime architect in the jfk murder. david ben gurion, jewish butcher, was furious with kennedy when he refused to give nuclear technology to the rothschild terrorist state. there are countless examples of israel using nuclear devices in the middle east and in nyc on 9/11/2001, an plot planned and executed by michael harari, and supported by american traitors dick cheney, donalds rumsfeld, george bush sr/jr, and a host of other genocide artists.
An Illegal War? What do you expect from an illegal president?
Free cell phones ?
+111
Putin is pretty quiet these days.
He must be hammered again.
I salut the obama for finally waging war against the islamic cult worshipers, however that does not give the obama a pardon for stealing the people's earnings to fund socialist parasite democracy-corrupting entitlement programs or using the IRS as a weapon against Patriots. He should be tried for treason for these offenses against Americans and the Constitution.
He violates the Consittution and international law with his undeclared wars but that's OK because you don't like the people he's bombing?
USA is bombing islamic cult worshiping primitive savages, not "people". I would air-drop you into ISIL territory so you could make "peace" with them.
Heeeeyyyy...! You're not allowed to say stuff like that. If you're willing to think clearly about a black person who does bad things, that makes you a BAD PERSON! Everybody knows that! /s
Obama has bombed more Muslim countries than Bush - by my count, its 7 to 5
That's because bush is a retard, the obama is much smarter.
Obama's a chocolate Easter Bunny...totally hollow on the inside
A choclate covered marshmellow; he never met a rich white man he didn't love.
The congress, senate, supreme court, doj, dod, wall street, London, Basel, Geneva, Vatican City and Tel Aviv are all behind the hood ornament 100%. toot. toot.
You forgot the original Wahabbi crazies; the Saudi Royal Family.
i just get the sense that no matter who the POTUS is it would be the same.
These people are puppets, working for the man who is more afraid of life than they are.
Spineless puppets that sell out humanity for a $ in their pocket and consider themselves made.
This one is just one more fool in a long line of spineless fools (m/f) that inhabit both sides of the aisle.
No one in the govt of the USA has a spine. All they have is fat wallets and that's cool. wow.
I don't really know what it is going to get them. I wonder if they do.
They get old and ugly and wear diapers again and die.
And what did they leave behind, hate, war, misery, death.
It's a mystery to me. Pitiful, pitiful creatures.
i just get the sense that no matter who the POTUS is it would be the same.
These people are puppets, working for the man who is more afraid of life than they are.
Spineless puppets that sell out humanity for a $ in their pocket and consider themselves made.
This one is just one more fool in a long line of spineless fools (m/f) that inhabit both sides of the aisle.
No one in the govt of the USA has a spine. All they have is fat wallets and that's cool. wow.
I don't really know what it is going to get them. I wonder if they do.
They get old and ugly and wear diapers again and die.
And what did they leave behind, hate, war, misery, death.
It's a mystery to me. Pitiful, pitiful creatures.
Basho. Interesting guy seen once in a while on PBS...Dr. Amit Goswami the Theoretical Physicist. he posits that the Tibetan Book of the Dead is pretty spot on. So what happens to a human soul during the time after death to reincarnation? Not one of the spineless, selfish, fearful creatures you describe will have an easy time with this reality.
I paraphrase as I am still studying this.
You're completely wrong. it would not be the same. They don't spend 500 Billion dollars on propaganda to get their boy in office; because it doesn't make any difference.
Agreed - its really not even arguable in terms of claims of Executive power [although the great leap backwards here was certainly under Shrub/Rove and the neocons]...
As a black, "liberal" Dem - who better to play Supreme Chancellor Palpatine?
The Left would be on the streets if it were a white male President, esp. if a Repugnicant. Greenwald's "reulsive progressive hypocrisy" article covers this well..
But all this is prelude to Hillary - who may come to rule as a virtual dictator, but still a puppet beholden to banks, the MIC, and yes - the Israel Firster neocon Deep State.
Endless war for no good reason at all designed by carer politicians who have never seen war.... and don't tell me McCain "saw war" - he flew far above it, and killed more americans than VC.
I heard that the reneger-in-chief uses the constitution for TP in the white house.
sorry for the duplicate.
No way to delete what you have done???
It take a sovereign country to apply for Obama to lose his undeserved Nobel.
Which one will have the guts to pursue this?
Don't count on Canada.
Trudeau (the first) maybe. Pearson maybe ...but that is long ago and Layton died before his time.
There may be a few sovereign countries (those not owned by banking corporations), but the US has not been one since 1871.