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The Khorasans: As Fake As the Kardashians
Obama is now - after the fact - scrambling to justify bombing the sovereign nation of Syria without the permission of either the Syrian government or even the United States Congress by saying that we were going after the super-evil Khorasans, who were about to attack us.
My God! That sounds terrifying ... like a cross between Genghis Khan, Klingons and the Kardashians!
The U.S. is saying that they're even more dangerous than ISIS.
There's just one wee little problem ... the Khorasan threat is as as fake as the Kardashians' physiques. (Admittedly, it's confusing, given that the Kardashians have also inserted themselves right in the middle of the Syrian conflict.)
Agence France-Presse reports:
The US says it has hit a little-known group called "Khorasan" in Syria, but experts and activists argue it actually struck Al-Qaeda's affiliate Al-Nusra Front, which fights alongside Syrian rebels.
In announcing its raids in the northern province of Aleppo on Tuesday, Washington described the group it targeted as Khorasan, a cell of Al-Qaeda veterans planning attacks against the West.
But experts and activists cast doubt on the distinction between Khorasan and Al-Nusra Front, which is Al-Qaeda's Syrian branch.
"In Syria, no one had ever heard talk of Khorasan until the US media brought it up," said Rami Abdel Rahman, director of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
"Rebels, activists and the whole world knows that these positions (hit Tuesday) were Al-Nusra positions, and the fighters killed were Al-Nusra fighters," added Abdel Rahman, who has tracked the Syrian conflict since it erupted in 2011.
Experts were similarly dubious about the distinction.
"The name refers to Al-Qaeda fighters previously based in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran who have travelled to Syria to fight with... Al-Nusra," said Matthew Henman, head of IHS Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Centre.
"They... should not be considered a new or distinct group as such."
Aron Lund, editor of the Syria in Crisis website run by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, raised similar doubts.
"The fact that news about this Al-Qaeda-run, anti-Western cell linked to Al-Nusra emerged just over a week ago, through US intelligence leaks -- well, it's certainly an interesting coincidence," he told AFP.
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Claims of a distinction are lost of many of Syria's rebels, who have also often rejected the world community's designation of Al-Nusra as a "terrorist" group.
When Washington added Al-Nusra to its list of "terrorist" organisations, even the internationally-backed Syrian opposition National Coalition criticised the decision.
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On the ground, almost all rebel groups have been willing to cooperate with Al-Nusra, seeing them as distinct from the Islamic State group (IS), which espouses transnational goals and includes many non-Syrians among its ranks.
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[The] history of cooperation [between the various crazies in Syria] has left some rebels and activists on the ground suspicious and even angry about the strikes on Al-Qaeda.
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Some key members are believed to maintain channels of communication with Al-Nusra, including Qatar, which has helped negotiate the release of prisoners held by the group.
McClatchy adds:
Raad Alawi, the commander of a smaller group of fighters, the Squadrons of Al Haq, told McClatchy he was very angry.
“Starting the war with the bombing of Nusra is an indication that this is a war against the revolution and not [ISIS] ... “Maybe next they will bomb the bases of the Free Syrian Army.”
Well, okay ... experts and Syrian Islamic jihadis think there's no distinction between the Khorasans and plain vanilla Al Nusra/Al Qaeda/Free Syrian Army fighters.
But surely America and our allies treat the moderate Syrian rebels ... I mean Al Nusra ... er, I mean the Khorasans ... with a consistent iron fist?
Well, no ... we've been - directly or indirectly - backing them. And - as we've been warning for some time - the boys we're arming are threatening to attack us.
So - while I'd like to believe that I'm being shown the real deal as a justification for long-term, direct involvement - I'm just not buying it .
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Semyonchenko in visit at the International Repubblican Institute. Behind him, on the right, Tennessee Senator Robert Corker.A commander of one of the Ukrainian neo-nazi battalions, the Donbass, Semyon Semyonchenko, has just returned from the US, where he met with senior senators from both parties, and received commitments of material support.
He posted a comment onFacebook in which he gives a detailed explanation of this assistance.
He was also received by IRI (International Republican Institute) and NDI (National Democratic Institute), the international branches of the two main American political parties, and met with democratic Senator Robert Menendez and republican senator Robert Corker.
"Menendez and Corker are the two senators who have sponsored the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, a bill that will allocate money to provide assistance to Ukraine, including the supply of weapons. Radar, anti-tank weapons, drones, communications systems and many other useful things for our army. "
One of the main goals of his trip was to get training and much more from the US military. Judging by his FB post, it seems he has accomplished this.
"Yesterday I signed a contract to organize training courses for the fighters and officers of the battalion Donbass by mobile groups of instructors from the United States, held by military that are not currently in service.
They will work under the traditional training system used by the Navy Seals and Delta Force. Standards have been developed for each department (reconnaissance, special forces, security, etc.) and for each non-commissioned officer.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_ukraine/2014/09/26/06-54-29pm/ukra...
Gotta love our "Chutzpah", in warped demented kinda way!!!
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/u-s-military-now-allowing-illegal-immigra...
http://investmentwatchblog.com/well-bomb-where-we-want-us-security-doctr...
Interesting note:
The 77th Infantry Division of the Iranian Army is based at Khorasan and generally referred to as 'The Khorasan Division'. Some of the regiment is currently deployed, possibly against ISIS/ISIL, though where they are operating doesn't seem to be known (or I can't find a reference to it, anyway).
Could this be a case of inadvertent truthi-ness, followed by a hasty cover-up?
"Yeah, we bombed the shit of the Khorasans, dude! What's that? The Iranians are on our side in this campaign? Shit! Fuck it, we'll just say it was a totally different Khorasan formation... terr'ist one. That'll work!"
"Khorasan ... group leader al-Fadhi has been on Western watch-lists since 2001, when it was suspected he was amongst the select few who knew about the 9/11 plot before it happened."
-Breitbart
But was he in on the plan to steal the gold and controlled demo building seven?
This seems complicated.
I assume Obama knows what he is doing.
Unlike the rest of the world who sure as hell haven't a fucking clue what he is doing...
Ukraine didnt work - but Biden's son did get on the board of the oil company certified by the new government that kicked out the elected leader
Rescuing the Yazz off the mountain in Iraq didnt work. Probably because most werent rescued, which would explain the absence of heartwarming MSM coverage of happy Yazz. Too busy bombing the road to Erbil, the Kurd Oil capital
Zero coverage of Syria bombing. No fly zone just like Ukraine
Obama likes secret wars. He can choose the enemy, and sweep dead Americans under the rug
I assume the bombing is to corner Assad so ISIS can finish him off. Turkey can have the Nabucco pipeline. They dont mind helping ISIS
I dont blame Germany for abstaining. Why make enemies of a future gas supplier
Neo-morons want WWIII. They sanction Iran, so Iran sells fuel to Turkey for Turkish script, which they trade for gold. So Obama bans selling gold to Iran. Iran sets up a pipeline with Assad, so Obama sets up ISIS to take out Assad which not only gets someone in Benghazi reamed, it pushes Iran to - China. If Assad is gone, Qatar gets its pipeline, we empower the Wahabi axis of Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Turkey who are probably funding the next wave of Mohammed Attas - for after we get them their pipeline
The neo-morons want Putin dead, yet Putin is the buffer between China, and Europe. Unlike Obama, Putin hates jihadists
a few well positioned drones with tactical BUNKER BUSTERS AND GOOD INFORMATION from spies inside the assad regime can result in just ONE NECESSARY BOMBING SUDDENLY KILLING ASSAD AND HIS FAMILY.
oooops . yea we just had one 'accident' and instead of killing the kardashians we killed asad. alas------we will now be negotiating with the saudis and qatar for the rights to the cleanup crew over the spoils and territory.
this shit is AWESOME USA USA USA USA USA USAUSA USA USAUSA USA USAUSA USA USAUSA USA USAUSA USA USA
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I can't imagine what ZH will be like when the shit finally does hit the fan.
Obomber: Some Spooky guys somewhere in the world are going to poke people gently with blunt soft things
BOMB the bastards
KILL the evil sponge wielding softees
"Wait, I thought we were at war with Al-Qaida?"
"No, Al-Qaida is our close ally, we have never been at war with Al-Qaida"
"Who are we fighting now?"
"Al-Nusra Front of course. We have always been at war with Al-Nusra"
"What about that poster on the wall saying we are enemies of Al-Qaida?"
"Never mind that poster even though it looks weather-worn, it must've been put up by internal dissenters and they shall be punished."
I thought it was a hedge fund, the Corzine Group
Is that Al Nutrasweet? By any chance?
AFA
Alluh
FORE
Akbar
or
AFMWA
Alluh-FORE-MOAR-WAR-Akbar
There's 50 of them! I'm so scared. Any decent gang in L.A. has more members and 100% guaranteed more guns. They don't cut heads off and put their killings on youtube, but they sure kill alot of people.
I'm calling peak terrorism insanity with this one.
The Kardashians are fake?
Now hold on one darn minute!
I've seen them up close, they are not fake!
Hitler. Only one of them.
Mao. Only one of them. Stalin. Only one of them.
Lenin. Only one of them.
PolPot. Only one of them.
Hitler doesn't belong in that group - most of his alleged atrocities are war propaganda/fiction. Churchill and the US killed far more innocent civilians than Hitler did.
Only one Øsurper & look how much he has fkd up America.
Only takes one to organize, granted the group is fake, just another US generated false flag.
They must be the ones that have the yellow cake urainium
Have you ever laid Big O pipe? If you did, you knew that the pipe is never designed to hold any charge, just collect and carry it down to the pit.
Our President is a 6" "Big O" drainage pipe.
Hitler was a good orator and motivator. He was working on behalf of a group who knew exactly what they wanted to get done with him.
Only one Øsurper & look how much he has fkd up America.
Only takes one to organize, granted the group is fake, just another US generated false flag.
They must be the ones that have the yellow cake urainium
tell it to cnn and the ny times. judging by comments on the NYT - even the top 20% - intellect/income - are largely buying this whole charade.
I mean, there's no real good way to know what in the heck is going on over there, but no one stops to ask why the US is so involved in Syria at all. Where are the "liberals" on this?
Funny how Ukraine totally dropped out of the news. They must be massacring ethnic Russians.
huh....the NYT sold those same sheep that Iraq had WMDs and that Saddam H. blew up the WTC.....lol
well they couldnt say we bombed the guy we armed because they planned to blow us up could they?
Throw in a strange name , call them new and its all good.
Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the *right* man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong? - Brazil
Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the *right* man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong? - Brazil
Wasnt that the MOI-Minsitry of Information? an NSA/DHS type operation
Love that movie! :-)
It is an outrage that a moron like you exploits the name of our Great Founder, "George Washington".
It does not matter what organization they belog to or what they call themselves, they are ALL islamic cult worhipers and ALL must be killed. The ONLY fault of USA strategy and tactics is that they are not using biological & chemical weapons to wipe out the entire islamic cult worhiping population and replacing them with civilized humans. This is the only way to control the
islamic cult worhipers - make them responsible for keeping their own territories/countries free of this human garbage or face extermination - make the "innocent civilians" fear US more than than they fear the islamic cult worhipers.
You should be air droped into ISIL.
^Zydokomuna detected^
WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
Brought our one god to the Arabs?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
Gave us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and established that the world was round?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, and giving us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and establishing that the world was round, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
Gave us great music, architecture, and poetry?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, and giving us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and establishing that the world was round, and giving us great music, architecture, and poetry, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
Fought with us in World War One?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, and giving us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and establishing that the world was round, and giving us great music, architecture, and poetry, and fighting with us in World War One, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
The paper mill? Camera obscura? The first discovery of the Theory of Relativity? The pendulum? The water clock? The science of refraction? Chemistry?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, and giving us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and establishing that the world was round, and giving us great music, architecture, and poetry, and fighting with us in World War One, the paper mill, camera obscura, the first discovery of the Theory of Relativity, the pendulum, the water clock, the science of refraction, and chemistry, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
Fought the Russians in Afghanistan?
Yes, but besides bringing our one god to the Arabs, and giving us algebra, geometry, and trigonometry, and establishing that the world was round, and giving us great music, architecture, and poetry, and fighting with us in World War One, the paper mill, camera obscura, the first discovery of the Theory of Relativity, the pendulum, the water clock, the science of refraction, and chemistry, and fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
I call horseshit! The arabs are barbarians, all the things you mentioned were created by greeks and romans and claimed by the arabs as they took over the eastern empire. Arabs are, have been, and will ever be just barbarians.
I call horseshit! The arabs are barbarians, all the things you mentioned were created by greeks and romans and claimed by the arabs as they took over the eastern empire. Arabs are, have been, and will ever be just barbarians.
I don't know how much of that is fact. But I do know that if you stay the hell out of muslim countries, then you won't get hassled by muslims. It's pretty simple. Can't say I see that as any different than "Trespassers will be shot."
I'm with you. You would think we would have learned that from the Russians when they invaded Afghanistan. But oil is money. That's why I'm trying to do everything I can, personally, to lessen my electricity and gasoline use. Perhaps the Good Patriotic Senators from the South could help by passing bills encouraging USA power companies to install solar farms, at least in the South, instead of passing bills encouraging oil companies to drill in the Near East.
WHAT have the MUSLIMS ever DONE for US?
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Taught us that the left hand is filthy?
Which is a drawback for a lefty like me. How am I gonna wind up my Islamic water clock?
I thought that was the Hindus. But I think it's actually a health rule. Eat with the right hand. Wipe your butt with the left hand. But I do think that left-handed people should be allowed to reverse the rule. That's why I've started the non-profit "Left Hand Is Close To God". :-)
Famous left-handed people: Babe Ruth; Larry Bird; Pele; Sir Bobby Charlton; Ferenc Puskas; Sir Garfield Sobers; Dennis Compton; Arnold Palmer; Rod Laver; Mark Spitz; Marvin Hagler; John McEnroe; Jimmy Connors; Ivan Lendl; Martina Navratilova; Diego Maradona; Marco Van Basten; Jimmy White; Brian Lara; Alan Border; Cary Grant; WC Fields; Steve McQueen; Peter Ustinov; Charlie Chaplin; Fred Astaire; Robert Redford; Tom Cruise; Robert De Niro; Sylvester Stalone; Bruce Willis; Jim Carrey; Judy Garland; Greta Garbo; Betty Grable; Marilyn Monroe; Julia Roberts; Angelina Jolie; Nicole Kidman; Emma Thompson; Demi Moore; Bob Dylan; Jimmi Hendrix; Sir Paul McCartney; Sting; David Bowie; Phil Collins; George Michael; Marshall Mathers - Eminem; Annie Lennox; Celine Dion; Mark Knopfler; Paul Simon; Ringo Starr; Bill Gates; J Edgar Hoover; HG Wells; Lewis Carroll; Prince’s Charles and William; Neil Armstrong; Buzz Aldrin; Matt Groening; JF Kennedy; Gerald Ford; Ronald Reagan; Bill Clinton; Horatio Nelson; Leonardo Da Vinci; Michelangelo; Pablo Picasso; Julius Caesar; Wolfgang Amedeus Mozart; Ludwig Van Beethoven; Winston Churchill; Napoleon Bonaparte; Josephine; Queen Victoria; Alexander the Great; Joan of Arc; Marie Curie.
You obviously have an agenda. Everything you spewed was discounted the minute you assailed the character of the article's writer. You see- SocilaismIsCancer- SIC for short- one of the ways a propagandist deflects attention from the argument is to name call. You really need to stay in college because your part time work as a troll will come to an end. Probably sooner than you like as this comment is an abject failure in fomenting a coalition of readers demanding the use of chemical and biologcal weapons in the region. Only a person- perhaps you SIC- whose has been brainwashed would call people human garbage. There is no perfect religion or people. Read How to Recognize Propaganda and then get back to us with a proper argument.
Disgruntled, just call them out for what they very likely are: HASBARA TRASH!
More and more are waking up to who they are. They are easily detected in some cases.
A website like ZH is sure to attract the zyd flies, given enough time the probability of this occuring approaches 1.
First they came for the Muslims...
An American, not US subject.
Hi, I'm sorry, but I downvoted you...... On the count of you want to kill 25% of the people on this planet.
Brilliant strategy! Bomb your "Allies". An extreme version of surprise. When did Cheech and Chong join NSA?
Chong to Odumbo: "Oh wow man, I never seen anybody take that much acid before, man..."
The USA hit a little known group called "Korasan"; plus the usual collection of housewives and schoolchildren, who have no idea why they are being di-membered and burned to death. Makes me so proud to be a "Murican".
"...plus the usual collection of housewives and schoolchildren, who have no idea why they are being di-membered and burned to death"
If they didn't want to be bombed, they shouldn't have become Muslim and moved to the Middle East. /s
An American, not US subject.
"Muslim-ism, the new communism, the same old boogeyman."
Is this some sort of sarcasm? I don't understand ?
That is what the "/s" tag is: the sarcasm tag.
It is used here to indicate sarcasm.
I should have used "/ssss" as my comment was dripping with sarcasm.
An American, not US subject.
Oh, okay. I have to work on my sign language.
It's close to midnight
something evil's lurkin' in the dark
under the moonlight
You see a sight that almost stops your heart
You try to scream
But terror takes the sound before you make it
You start to freeze
As horror looks you right between the eyes
You're paralyzed
'Cause this is thriller!
Thriller night!...
MJ, Thriller
An American, not US subject.
What? did they change the name slightly so George Lucas wouldn't sue their asses?
Khorasan = Coruscant ?