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Obamacare Website Costs Top $2 Billion, Almost Triple Government Estimates
What's the opposite of government efficiency? In a double-take-instigating headline, the federal government’s Obamacare enrollment system has cost about $2.1 billion so far, according to a Bloomberg Government analysis of contracts related to the project. BGOV’s analysis shows that costs for both healthcare.gov and the broader reform effort are far greater than anything publicly discussed. However, that pales into insignificance when considering health reform has cost American taxpayers $73 billion in the last four years... and counting.
As Bloomberg reports,
Spending for healthcare.gov and related programs, including at the Internal Revenue Service and other federal agencies, exceeds cost estimates provided by the Obama administration, the analysis found. The government’s most recent estimate, limited to spending on computer systems by the agency that runs the site, through February, is $834 million.
“The way in which Obamacare has been rolled out has been very messy,” with spending scattered across dozens of contracts, many of them predating the law and amended afterward, said Peter Gosselin, a senior health-care analyst at BGov and lead author of study. “One of the reasons it has been implemented in the way it has been, financially, is precisely to deny opponents of the law a clear target.”
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The construction of healthcare.gov involved 60 companies, supervised by employees of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services instead of a lead contractor, according to the inspector general at the Health and Human Services Department.
“Round one, the crisis was in the front-end of the system,” Gosselin said. “Round two, it’s going to be in the back office.”
Nearly five years after passage, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and a companion electronic health records (EHR) program have run a startup tab of more than $73 billion...
BGOV’s analysis shows that costs for both healthcare.gov and the broader reform effort are far greater than anything publicly discussed. They’re also substantially greater than what the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) initially estimated health reform would cost by this point, although not what the agency’s more recent piecemeal estimates suggest.
Source: Bloomberg BGOV
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Most of my friends and family have health insurance.
They pay monthly fees = to my little income.
I'm 65 (45 on Facebook) and never bought any HI.
I'm either lucky, stupid, stubborn or blessed.
Yes the VA "gives" me care. Which I try NOT to use or abuse.
My bag of meds, incuding Zoloft, sits unopened as I type this.
May you LIVE LONG & PROSPER fellow ZHers
Triple the estimates, that's all?
Same thing the Census did in 2010. They could have used an iPhone with a custom app written by 6 part time guys to capture the census but no.....They had to build a device that could survive a nuke and still give out it's data. Not to mention after a nuke, the Census would be useless, no matter. Cost? 1 billion+
What better tribute to the fugly bankster puppet than this corrupt monstrosity.
Tell me again, what does this website do?
Would it be easier just to buy and sell health insurance via eBay or Amazon?
How much memory does the compiled code take up?
How much memory on clients computers?
How large are similar systems?
2.1 b printed by the Fed and given to Accenture and dumped into GDP with a 3 multiplier....
winning!
IOW, a website with a price tag that rivals the GDP of many of the worlds tier-2 nations; to put it in perspective, the entire budget for the UK National Health Service is roughly $160B.
The census numbers are fake.
Pres Sambo sure has the reverse midas touch! Everything that Klown touches turns to disaster!
It will get worse. I understand a little known splinter group of khorasan ( who splintered off al quaeda ) called the Tehran is cool and they want to kill all westerners because their daughters are allowed to go to school brigade is working on malware, on behalf of the iranian mullahs AND army to try to kill everyone by way of an infected obamabortioncare website.
Its only been 2 years. Give it time. It will be 10x or 20x before you know it.
Sure, the software vendors have done well, but not nearly as well as the insurance companies.
Obamacare
is of, by, and for the healthcare insurers. It is designed to remove
competition and assure profits for healthcare insurers, exactly as the
Federal Reserve Act does for the big banks.
It's the "Public-Private Partnership" model of looting the taxpayer. It's what modern communism has evolved into. It's what you get when you split the Communist Party four ways: democrat/private sector, democrat/public sector, republican/private sector, and republican/public sector. Mobility within the Party Elite happens across public sector and private sector lines, in order to more efficiently loot the taxpayer through deception and obfuscation.
From what little I've read they're just being pumped up before the big socialized fall
Kind of like wall street or a hand job
Any way you look at it the prostitutes are going to jerk you off to keep you happy short-time and then wipe the mess on you when their done and the pimps will leave you unconscious in your own shit and broke after they beaten and robbed you long-time. Probably forever if the globalists get their way
That's been the mantra of this administration:
You need to spend money to make money.
Russian draft law would allow seizure of foreign propertyhttp://news.yahoo.com/russian-draft-law-allow-seizure-foreign-property-1...
Russians wonder not how will they live through sanctions but how will they live after them. Foreign investor trust dropped to zero.
They are just following the US example.
where are idiots like you came from?
the us has had similar laws n the books for years, troll. But it's only bad when they do it? Is that right?
Amateurs. A shittier one could have been built for twice the cost.....
Its the govt. Why build one, when two is only twice the cost.
Give them a little more time.
Liberia accuses US testing ebola bioweapons...
Maybe they could use Obamacare.
The US shadow govt does have a habit..
The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/t?s?ki??i?/)[1] was an infamousclinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilisin rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[
In October 2010 it was revealed that in Guatemala, U.S. Public Health Service doctors went even further. It was reported that from 1946 to 1948, American doctors deliberately infected prisoners, soldiers, and patients in a mental hospital with syphilis and, in some cases, gonorrhea, with the cooperation of some Guatemalan health ministries and officials. A total of 696 men and women were exposed to syphilis without the informed consent of the subjects. When the subjects contracted the disease they were given antibiotics though it is unclear if all infected parties were cured.[21]
In August 1949, the Special Operations Division operatives infiltrated the world’s largest office building and sprayed bacteria into the Pentagon’s air handling system, which then spread them throughout the structure.
Serratia marcescens bacteria. Open-air testing continued through the 1960s, with the Special Operations Division operatives simulating even more audacious assaults. In 1965 they spread bacteria throughout Washington’s National Airport; a year later, agents dropped light bulbs filled with organisms onto the tracks in New York’s subway system. “I think it spread pretty good,” participant Wally Pannier later said, “because you had a natural aerosol developed every few minutes from every train that went past.”
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as "EboBun." It's patent No. CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010. You can view it here.
Who is going to monetize the high valuation risk?
Golden morgen
Good job
;=)
The new rule is to think of whatever a given law is called as it being 180 degrees out.
Realized that the first time I ran across the "Bank Secrecy Act". Followed by such lovelies as the "Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act", "Community Reinvestment Act", "Patriot Act", "No Child Left Behind Act", "Prison Rape Elimination Act", "Bankruptcy Reform Act", ...
Call it what it is: IRS GLOBAL SERF BILLING SYSTEM
live free or die slaves
omg -- how can any web site, even if the US Gov't is involved, anywhere at any time cost over $2 BILLION to create? I would have done it all by myself for a few million.
Apparently we're thinking way too small on the Graft scale...
As for the "costs", note the IRS for enforcement. If you really want to get people to pay for healthcare (and bring down the costs), just repeal that 1986 ruling that says that ERs have to take everyone (including the 'frequent flyer' drunks/druggies). Bring your BammieCare card or cash, simple.
Killing it, government style.
pods
O-Bomb-A care
1. In order to insure the uninsured, we first have to uninsure the insured.
2. Next, we require the newly uninsured to be re-insured.
3. To re-insure the newly uninsured, they are required to pay extra charges to be re-insured.
4. The extra charges are required so that the original insured, who became uninsured, and then became re-insured, can pay enough extra so that the original uninsured can be insured, which will be free of charge to them.
It's your standard Trotskyite nihilism: you can't implement change until you utterly lay waste to the existing system. I think he called it the "permanent revolution".
Kind of like the communist version of the "final solution".
AKA, government creating it's own demand.
If a central banker states taxpayer funded policy, a snipper will expose your head into bloody pieces.
Take your chances. Generally, the children and wife goes first. Your masters that you report too taught us the process.
Boo!
Triple the estimates? That's outrageous! Those $732. toilet seats for the military brass came in right on the money! I hope they don't bomb the hospitals.
Also being discussed in the news....
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/headquarters-building-budget-costs/2014/09/19/id/595752/
The DHS over budget on new headquarters by ~$1.5bln (from original ~$3bln estimate)... and still decade or more from completion.
This is fucking criminal negligence, imo. I fucking hate... HATE these crooks running our country.
First off, why the FUCK do we even have a DHS...?!?
Yes, I'm talking about YOUR employer, you governement wanker whose job it is (paid with MY tax dollars) to surf through sites like this sniffing out "domestic terrorists" ike me.
Fuck all of you government pricks.
We have a DHS because all the lesbians we are producing in this country need jobs.
Well said Farmer Joe, now join me on the terrorist watch list! These useless government drones are paid HUGE salaries to sit on their dead asses and surf our private lives, real patriots, working to undermine everything America was founded to be. Job well done wankers!
I wonder how many trillions of dollars it would cost for them to build amazon.com from scratch.
If you guessed less than $2 Billion you would be right.
Efficiency! Cost effective! Brilliant! [sarcasm]
i wonder how the Death Star overruns are looking ?
Good question. My guess is somewhere in the neighborhood of triple to the power of 9 give or take some steak dinners that may have been inappropriate.
Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational obamacare station!
I surfed to the RaceMarxist's site of money-funneling graft, and corruption.
I was disappointed.
For a cool 2 Billion, I thought it simply MUST feature a monitor-extendable, actual vagina, and recreational drugs.
Shrug...
At that price, taxpayers are basically getting one very pricey BO-job.
Merely triple the original estimate?
ROFL
You Yanks are in for a surprise. The same company that set up Canada's
gun control program are working on your "health care" system. Our
gun control program came in 666X the original estimate! Get back to
us when your health care system costs you ... OMG... don't bother
you won't survive that one...
No, the difference is, they learned a few things after their first government contracting "success". Namely, that you mark up your estimate by a factor of 200, so when you come in at 600x over cost, it only looks like 3x over cost.
That $2 billion was added to GDP - so that is good right?
/s/
Who cares Iphone 6 is here. The world is a safe place.
Exactly what doesn't cost zillions of taxpayers dollars in America?
People who are now about 25 are supposed to be paying for the "health care" of those who are about 55? Like every other exponential growth trend that one examines, we appear to be nearing the tipping point, while the long ride UP becomes a faster ride DOWN.
Obamacare was the triumph of the Profit From Disease System corrupting the political processes, that form of medicine inside of the already established murder/money systems based on enforced frauds. It is practically impossible to fully comprehend how criminally insane the "success" of controlling society with legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, has become!
E.g.:
http://www.rense.com/general87/hhdy.htm
57 Trillion Reasons To Murder 100 Million Americans With Poisonous Vaccinations
By Leonard G. Horowitz, 8-8-9
& another example to consider:
According to an October 1998 Discover magazine article entitled "Filthy Lucre," the FBI was fully aware of the fact that counting/sorting machines were capable of cross-contaminating items made of paper. The entire article was devoted to the scientific study of money including a historical, and anthropological view. Of course the article focused on the cross-contamination of currency at the Federal Reserve’s counting/sorting machines, but even a fool should be able to understand that there can’t be a tremendous difference between those machines and the ones at the post office that do pretty much the same thing.
Apparently the Japanese are ahead of the USA, according to this article anyway, they have been well aware of the fact that currency is an effective vector for bacteria, as evidenced by the fact that Japanese citizens can go to what is referred to in Japan as a "clean ATM", and have their currency, the Yen, pressed for 1/10th of a second at 392 degrees in order to sterilize them. Hitachi manufactures this clean ATM, and according to the article, it is quite popular and has been for many years in Japan.
In 1997, Tom Jourdan, Chief of the Materials and Devices unit at the FBI lab in Washington D.C., found that ninety percent of the dollar bills his unit tested came back positive for the presence of cocaine hydrochloride. Jourdan stated that it was his belief that, "mechanical currency counters are homogenizing money one contaminated bill brushed through the counting machine at the bank can contaminate the entire stack." In other words the FBI conducted a study that revealed that mechanical counters were cross-contaminating money, and they knew back in 1997 that one contaminated dollar bill could contaminate an entire stack of bills. How hard is it to infer that the same would prove true with envelopes at the United States Post Office?
The answer of course is that it wouldn’t be difficult at all the same mechanics are at work with the mechanical counters/sorters and the vector, paper, is essentially the same. Admittedly currency is a better vector with its cotton/linen composition, but at the microscopic level, standard envelope paper is very porous and can carry anthrax spores quite efficiently as evidenced by the fact that several Americans died as a result of inhaling spores that had become impregnated into envelopes at the Post Office.
... Photographic microscopy in the article, "Filthy Lucre," clearly revealed that the cocaine particulate photographed within the weave of the cotton/linen dollar was some seven times larger than 10/25,000th of an inch in diameter, yet couldn’t be seen without the use of a microscope. ... bacterial agents and viruses could not only contaminate money and remain viable on its surface for some time, but that it could also "cross-contaminate" other bills. ...
Discover magazine documented a study that was conducted on two $20 bills, one $1 bill, and a quarter. All were wiped across a Petrie dish containing an agar base, and all produced positive results within 24 hours. ... another study cultured two hundred dollar bills and coins and pathogenic bacteria on 13% of coins, and 42% of bills tested. ... another study was conducted by another journal, Infections in Medicine. This study concluded that 3% of all coins, and 11% of all the bills they tested were positive for bacteria.
In 1998, a study conducted by the University of California at San Francisco revealed that out of a hundred and thirteen examples of "real life," cash they cultured, most of the bills grew "harmless bacteria" but 18% of coins, and 7% of bills manifested pathogenic bacteria, including E-Coli, and Staph aureus. Shirley Lowe, a microbiologist credited with conducting the study on behalf of the University stated that "half the money," she obtained from a doughnut shop grew Staphylococcus aureus. Lowe stated, "Anything that can get on hands can get on money."
USA spent 2.8 trillion dollars on so called health care. Really sick care. Profit comes from the ill, not the healthy. This is the sign of a broken market, lacking in price discovery. The manipulation and corruption of the sick care delivery and private insurance for profit non-system is breathtaking in it's costs and shocking in it's expensive failures. When cancer is good for GDP? What good is GDP? As a measure of real economic well being I mean.
Geocities wasn't good enough?
this is an absurd - absurd price for a website. It's probably being mainly built by Indians on a visa.
I'd love to see the line item.... for fuck's sake - wasn't it one of Michelle's pals that got the original K for it - is that price rolled in?
Absurd, but not unexpected. Like Solyndra.
Sure, built by Indians on a visa, but don't worry, American "facilitators" pocket 90% of the money.
And it's still not done.
I don't think it was the build that was the problem. I think it was the design that was the problem. It was designed by the participants who are motivated to have it fail.
Definitely the design. The overriding goal was to process all the bullshit up front so they could present the subsidized cost to the buyer so MOST people would thinkthey are saving money. The second overriding goal was to funnel money to crony's. $!0 milion for the website. $90 million for the premioum fraud. $1.9 billion for crony's. Fuck you Obama. I hope you die a slow and painful death a hundred times over.
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This is par for the course for software projects. That the project was only 3x over budget and a few months late is actually pretty good. See this: "The Long, Dismal History of Software Project Failure" http://blog.codinghorror.com/the-long-dismal-history-of-software-project...
$2 billion for a website . . . and they f*ck with me for a couple thousand in taxes.
"You didn't build that."
Maybe I should have....
I was thinkin' the same thing.
Heck, I could probably slice a loaf into the crapper and successfully bill them 1/2 million dollars by sending them a picture with a note: "Thinking of you and all you doo".
It being the government you would be underbilling them at 500K a loaf.
Name one govt. project that ever came in under budget, or on budget. Crooks!
As usual...
Go and find out the name of the owner of the software firm that made the site.
Then look at his political contribution history.
It was never about a website; it was (and is) about shoveling taxpayer money to connected Democrats.
Too Fail To Big.
The government is a RICO statute criminal enterprise.
Now we know why the Demonrats were after a national healthcare law since Hyena Rodthem Clinton's attempt.
They mean to speed up the disappearance of the White Christian population.
The Bolsheviks aka the tribe have been biding their time and soon they will make their Final Solution to the White race.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel, says that society would be far better off if people quit trying to live past age 75.
Another nice brother is the Hollywood agent Ari Emanuel. What a family!! And then Rahm Israel Emanuel who served in the IDF but NOT the US military during Gulf War 1.
It is nothing nut money laundering. No way it costs 1% to develop that shitty website. The resti is just funneled to cronys. Fuck them.
If their estimates were off so far on this program why should we trust them on other cost and budget numbers? The large number of government programs that have failed to carry out their duties and the dim view many Americans have towards Washington may be starting to take its toll on those who think big government is the answer.
The Democratic Party has long been thought of as the party of "big government" filled with believers that government can solve and is the answer to curing many of our woes. Sadly cost and reality are quickly beginning to show the flaws in this theory, government is far better at providing access of citizens and good at passing popular laws, but the private sector tends to be more efficient and better at controlling costs.More on the flaws of big government in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/11/flaws-in-big-government-concept.h...