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ISIS Comes To America? Oklahoma Man Beheads Woman After Being Fired

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A man who had been fired from a food processing plant in an Oklahoma City suburb beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday. As AP reports, while questioning the suspect's co-workers, investigators learned he had recently started trying to convert several employees to Islam. As the director of news and information for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City stated, "they have this ISIS thing on their minds and now this guy has brought it to America."

 

 

As AP reports,

A man who had been fired from a food processing plant in an Oklahoma City suburb beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.

 

The 30-year-old man, who has not been charged, stabbed Colleen Hufford, 54, severing her head in Thursday's attack at Vaughan Foods, Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said.

 

"Yes, she was beheaded," Lewis told The Associated Press before a Friday news conference.

 

Lewis said the man then stabbed Traci Johnson, 43, a number of times before being shot by Mark Vaughan, a reserve sheriff's deputy and the company's chief operating officer.

 

While questioning the suspect's co-workers, investigators learned he had recently started trying to convert several employees to Islam, Lewis said. Moore police have asked the FBI to aid in the investigation and look into the man's background because of the nature of the attack, Lewis said.

 

Johnson and the suspect were hospitalized and in stable condition Friday, Lewis said.

 

Lewis said he does not yet know what charges will be filed, adding that police are waiting until the man is conscious to arrest him.

 

Oklahoma Department of Corrections records show the suspect, whom The Associated Press is not naming because he has not been charged, has multiple religious tattoos, including one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

 

Lewis said the suspect had been fired in a building that houses the company's human resources office, then immediately drove to the entrance of the business. Lewis said he didn't know why the man was fired.

 

"This was not going to stop if he didn't stop it. It could have gotten a lot worse," Lewis said.

 

A Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.

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The alleged suspect, Alton Nolen, 30, was recently fired from Vaughan Foods in Moore prior to Thursday’s attack.

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Whether this is related to ISIS remains a matter of speculation.

But as News OK adds,

Saad Mohammad, director of news and information for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, said leaders of the society’s mosque in northwest Oklahoma City are on alert and taking security precautions to protect the Muslims who gather there from any violence that someone might try to attempt in retaliation for the Moore incident. He said the anti-Muslim sentiments people may have could be heightened due to the beheadings and violence being perpetrated by the Islamic extremist group ISIS overseas.

“They have this ISIS thing on their minds and now this guy has brought it to America,” Mohammad said.

 

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Fri, 09/26/2014 - 22:38 | 5261953 oldmanofthesee
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Are you fukin' nuts? The MSM buries every negative story about Negros, that crosses their wires. Right now, (10:25 PM Friday nite) the White House Toadies are burning up the phone lines to all the broadcast, network zombies, telling them to report this as "workplace violence". I need someone to tell me one aspect of our American society and culture, that has been improved by the promotion of the Negro race. I mean beside running back! Six years ago , I was ambivilent about race.........no longer!

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 08:15 | 5262372 free_lunch
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More than 10 years later, I can still recall my brother Sean's face. It was bright red. Furious. Not one given to fits of temper

Sean was in an uproar. He was a father, and he had just heard that Iraqi soldiers had taken scores of babies out of incubators in Kuwait City and left them to die. The Iraqis had shipped the incubators back to Baghdad. A pacifist by nature, my brother was not in a peaceful mood that day. "We've got to go and get Saddam Hussein. Now," he said passionately.

I completely understood his feelings. Although I had no family of my own then, who could countenance such brutality? The news of the slaughter had come at a key moment in the deliberations about whether the US would invade Iraq. Those who watched the non-stop debates on TV saw that many of those who had previously wavered on the issue had been turned into warriors by this shocking incident.

Too bad it never happened. The babies in the incubator story is a classic example of how easy it is for the public and legislators to be mislead during moments of high tension. It's also a vivid example of how the media can be manipulated if we do not keep our guards up.

The invented story eventually broke apart and was exposed. (I first saw it reported in December of 1992 on CBC-TV's Fifth Estate ? Canada's "60 Minutes" ? in a program called "Selling the War." The show later won an international Emmy.)

Read the full article:  http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:32 | 5260562 F0ster
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This is why we should all carry guns

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 20:01 | 5261629 logicalman
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There you go, blindly believing something in MSM.

You'll be telling me Building 7 came down because of a fire.

Black - Disgruntled - Muslim - working a shitty job.

Not the easiest way to face life, but just because one guy lost it doesn't mean you can condemn a whole culture.

Wonder if he was on any SSRIs?

Wonder if MSM might possibly play this for all it's worth?

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 22:26 | 5261947 Keyser
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After the initial flash of rage over this supposed act, I had the same thought... Perhaps this is yet another false flag to gain support for putting boots on the ground in Syria, which we know is the overall goal to oust Assad and take over the O&G distribution pipeline for the Saudis and Qatar... Can anyone say Sandy Hook?

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:14 | 5262032 mt paul
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mind fuck here , mind fuck there

 

pretty soon

they will do what you want

and not even realise it....

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 21:51 | 5261880 lost money
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what? I thught America brought all this on itself and that we should just ignore ISIS etc etc and put our head in the sand. I mean isn't that whatt you and your hero ron paul always seem to say? Oh that's right, you sing a diffeent tune when it is ACTUALLY YOUR ASS on the line instead of some brwon skinned kid half a world away.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 00:14 | 5262095 Amerikan Patriot
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He's a 'dirty Muslim' and you're a dirty racist, Bob.

You silly goose!

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 09:39 | 5264540 boogerbently
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Black muslim.

The perfect marriage of hate.

Blacks hate whites.

Muslims hate everything non muslim.

They are now theologically compelled to "hate whitey".

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:50 | 5260315 666
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I'm surprised he didn't work for the USPS; he has all the qualifications.

/s

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:01 | 5260373 ThirdWorldDude
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Predictive programming, bitchez!

Edit: Alan Watt explaining predictive programming

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:44 | 5260646 janus
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i'm inclined to agree with you 3rdWorldDude...people have no idea how potent and pervasive this stuff is.  it works on two levels: 1) encourage a dismissive attitude regarding the scheme amongst those it's targeting...and this is the easiest and most effective element, as it plays into the peoples's vanity -- in that, none believe they are programmable, each and all thinking themselves far too clever to fall for cheap gimmicks (but EVERYONE is susceptible to this stuff, from brain-dead retards to the most subtle and thoughtful of intellects). 2) craft broad narratives in which individuals are encouraged to find personal relevance, such that they buy in and claim within it some sense of belonging.

the heglian dialectic does not work without a compelling narrative...in other words, everybody loves a great story to which they can 'connect'; the trick is to make the edifying 'morale' serve the interests of the power structure.  in other words: the storyteller places before the audience good guys & bad buys, and then he sets about defining the characteristics of each; and then the story invariably concludes with the implicit (and essentially rhetorical) question, "which side are you on?...are you a good guy or bad guy?"  in that all men esteem themselves 'good', they will inevitably adopt the modes of whatever good is programmed by the storyteller. 

it's how cultural values and societies are constructed (always has been, going back at least as far as ancient sumer)...it isn't necessarily a 'bad' thing, but it is most certainly a weapon capable of affecting inestimable evil (if it falls in the wrong hands)...and, gentlemen, no doubt about it -- the story-arc of this nation's ethos has fallen into the most wicked and filthy hands imaginable.  

janus

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 20:29 | 5263729 acetinker
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I don't find it unbelievable that that this chick deserved to have her head severed.  Maybe the perp was just batshit crazy, but notice how it's insinuated that he was a muslim convert who had recently been trying to convert fellow workers.

I hate the violent shit, no matter its source, but this story smells of psyop bullshit.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:01 | 5260736 duo
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It's not terrorism, it's workplace violence, like Fort Hood.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:29 | 5261036 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup. Not sure if (enough) people know this, but Psy Ops is able to get 95% results with pre-screened and 'conditioned' candidates.

For all we know, this guy was a Product of Psy Ops. We'll never know.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:49 | 5260318 pods
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Guy looks like he should have worked with coloring books and not knives.  

pods

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:52 | 5260337 Ignatius
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As far as trends go, I much preferred Hoola-Hoops.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:55 | 5260352 PGR88
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He's a disgruntled MUSLIM meat worker.  Beheading is absolutely a cultural attribute.

In America angry people shoot others with guns.  In Asia, angry people disfigure other people with acid.  In Muslim cultures, angry people behead others.

He may have been disgruntled, but he was still acting according to Muslim culture.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:04 | 5260391 knukles
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He said "Hello"
She said "Halal"
He beheaded her for making fun of Mo's Deep Fried Pork Rinds

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:11 | 5260446 NoDebt
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Oh, well then it's fine.  I thought this was something bad at first.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:16 | 5260484 knukles
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Yeah....

I guess you're right.  He was another victim, who just happened to be black and muzzie, of whitey's system.
28 days in Rehab and a couple months, 2 times a week, evenings, for an hour or so of anger management courses and he's good, back to work on the Kosher foods processing line.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 20:06 | 5261640 logicalman
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If you haven't walked down that road, you've never seen the scenery.

Most people's beliefs come from their upbringing.

If you'd been brought up in a strict muslim family and were a gentleman of the darker persuasion I'd likely find your comments regarding whities worrying!

I find banksters scarier than ANYONE

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:31 | 5260574 PT
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You can't discriminate against him becoz of his relijus beliefs!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:20 | 5260817 SeattleBruce
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The religion of peace! Glad they included that equivocating quote from the islamic society so I can join right up (cuz you know the quran says to kill the infidel - so you can't blame him, or them! It's his First Amendment right to freedom of religion, you know..)

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 20:09 | 5261647 logicalman
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So, all those Christian crusades were by way of making friends?

Please tell me you don't believe that Christianity has been a force for peace!

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 20:59 | 5261786 cheech_wizard
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History not your strong suit? What were the reasons behind the Christian Crusades? I'll even answer that for you... Generally speaking, in the year 1094, Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory. In 1095 Pope Urban the Second preaches crusade; and the Christian Crusaders capture Jerusalem in 1099. Of course this was only after 450 years of Muslim expansion.

Now tell me, followers of which religion are still practicing beheadings today? IMHO, Islam is in desperation need of a reformation and in failing that, a thorough douching.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:53 | 5262070 The9thDoctor
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...and your source is politicalislam.com huh?

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 01:04 | 5262145 Herd Redirectio...
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Practicing beheadings today: Latin American Catholic drug cartels?

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 08:48 | 5262414 The9thDoctor
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Those are actually Jesuit-controlled, but that is a whole 'nother can of worms.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 09:26 | 5262453 logicalman
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At least you didn't try to tell me that Chritianity is a religion of peace.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:14 | 5260473 tony wilson
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pgr88

yes the problem is most of the head chopping happens in jewish run saudi arabia and they are friends of the bush and clinton clans.

 

check out the number one cause of death for children in gaza

it is a bullet in the head by the idf.

you really wanna compare a fake meat packer  event with zionist realities you cunt : )

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:27 | 5260850 SeattleBruce
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Brilliant - use a mysogynist slur as a putdown! Do you think Palestinian activists care/love their children more than the cause? Or that the Israelis do? When they do the violence will subside. Not til then. Also there are many Jews and Arabs that coexist in Israel - are those peaceful Israeli Arabs also cunts? I think the reality is more complex than name calling allows.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:48 | 5260669 Keyser
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Yeah, and he was shot by a citizen of the US that knows his rights and believes in the 2nd amendment... Had he not been there, how many would now be dead because of this subscriber to the Religion of Peace? 

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:20 | 5260821 duo
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Did they make the muslim cut up pigs?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:55 | 5260971 Monty Burns
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Come on, it's part of their culture.  And all cultures are equal.  I know this because I'm told it all the time.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:51 | 5260688 PartysOver
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"He was a disgruntled meat worker not some terrorist plotter."

Unbelieveable!!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:05 | 5260754 Renewable Life
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Well the fear mongoring elites have found their new tactic to exploit into hysteria!!!

No story here if the dude had just walked in and shot her with a gun.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:11 | 5261021 PrintemDano
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The savages coworkers said he told them that offing non mussies by removing the head was perfectly justified....he was told to stop saying such things, refused, was fired, then parted the receptionist...I'd say his religion is/was the problem, not work place violence.  There is a HUGE difference....

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:43 | 5260919 valley chick
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Back in June or July isis wanted others globally to pledge their allegience for a caliphate.  To be chanting muslim phrases is also suspicious as he was killing the woman.  Terrorist or workplace violence you decide.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:53 | 5260966 Monty Burns
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The downs suggest that irony is not alive and well among ZH readers.

Eh, you were being ironic, weren't you?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:02 | 5261187 SAT 800
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Mentally underdeveloped tribal entity lives in the USA; unfortunately.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:25 | 5261254 Max Cynical
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"He was a disgruntled meat worker not some terrorist plotter."

Um, yea...so was Nidal Malik Hasan.

Just another case of "workplace violence"?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 21:51 | 5261888 Bossman1967
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false flag. I live in ok and on Thursday just one dead one injured not untill today anything about beheaded or Muslim conect. they are trying to scare everyone for the boots on the ground option. FALSE FLAG

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:53 | 5262068 sirnzee
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Afterwards, the police held a news conference.  During the conference many muslims attended.  Some were reading the Koran, some were shouting "Praise Allah".  The article can be found on the Drudge Report.  

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:53 | 5260340 madcows
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"WORKPLACE VIOLENCE" 

Racism.  Bigotry.  If they had just held his hand and listened to him and accepted him, this never would have happened.  it was the women's fault for not understanding him.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:49 | 5260674 Keyser
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The MSM dare not call it what it is... Jihad has come to the US, like it or not... 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:51 | 5261319 Number 156
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Drinking game:

Turn on CNN. Every time you hear the phrase "workplace Violence", take a drink.

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:58 | 5260365 junction
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The whole world seems to be going mad.  Good thing someone there had a gun.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:16 | 5260490 knukles
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The whole world HAS ALREADY gone mad.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:01 | 5260745 tarsubil
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The country that I live in, America, certainly has gone mad. Living out in the woods with the mice doesn't seem so bad these days.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:23 | 5260521 silentboom
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A politicized world is a world ruled by violence. - Me

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:20 | 5260523 Professorlocknload
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Must be an election year.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:24 | 5260543 PoliticalRefuge...
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.. once again proving a good guy with a gun eliminates the advantage.. it's gonna complicate the media spin on this one, he'll be a former tea party official by the time they get through, and the sheep will believe it.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:05 | 5260409 thunderchief
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Ha, Ha, Ha,

I call this Dumb and Islamo Dumber..

Ameriica is so fat and stupid, they may as well put ISIS in a hard core or rap video.

These people are so stupid....

It makes executing them two steps down from puting your 15 year old cat to sleep..

Sheesh!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:34 | 5260456 JuliaS
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"When all those beheadings started in Iraq, it didn't bother me. A lot of people here were horrified, "Whaaaa, beheadings! Beheadings!" What, are you fucking surprised? Just one more form of extreme human behavior. Besides, who cares about some mercenary civilian contractor from Oklahoma who gets his head cut off? Fuck 'em. Hey Jack, you don't want to get your head cut off? Stay the fuck in Oklahoma. They ain't cuttin' off heads in Oklahoma".

- George Carlin (spinning in his grave right now)

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:49 | 5260946 RmcAZ
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Uhhh holy shit, that's pretty weird.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:21 | 5260529 Everybodys All ...
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Close the mosque and shoot this guy tomorrow.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:28 | 5260823 Everybodys All ...
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Do you people with the Coexist bumper stickers have any idea what you are up against?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:47 | 5260930 knukles
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Why can't we all just get along?

sarc/detached from reality

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 22:59 | 5262011 BraveSirRobin
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"What we have here is a failure to communicate."

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 09:29 | 5262455 logicalman
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Guys like Anybody's all?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:31 | 5260570 Sleepless Knight
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"Peace be with you"   One piece at a time.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:16 | 5260718 Jumbotron
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Paging Dr. Louis Farrakhan.

Paging Dr. Louis Farrakhan.

You are needed in the I.C.U.  Your patient has arrived.

Dr. Louis Farrakhan, you are needed in the I.C.U.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:11 | 5261214 WillyGroper
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So Jumbotron I can assume you clearly disagree with Farrakhan's message here? Or is it just your bias showing?

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 10:15 | 5261846 Jumbotron
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Farrakhan is a liar.  I'm biased against liars.

Period.  End of story.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 13:20 | 5262781 WillyGroper
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Care to be a little more specific?

I cannot draw much from generalizations.

Your version of his lies?

Hmmm, must be too thick to follow. Draw me a picture.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:04 | 5260757 Chandos
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Manchurian candidate maybe?....Excellent timing to have the American populace feel - not 'think', feel - that Isis is getting close to home and that the warmonger-in-chief is justified in once again bombing these 'backward fools'......The beheading meme gives it away in my opinion....

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:17 | 5260806 papa_lazarou
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Clearly, he was inspired by U.S. corporate media coverage of the recent spate of fake beheadings.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:50 | 5260948 Monty Burns
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And whatever it was  it was not his fault.  Just  wait and see.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:26 | 5260832 auntiesocial
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before I worry about ISIS, I must first address my paranoia about Communism, Nukes, Avian Bird Flu and Africanized Killer Bees coming to get me. :O

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:48 | 5260943 Everybodys All ...
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No one is requiring action from you thank God. Now go back to sleep.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:47 | 5260937 Monty Burns
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"Saad Mohammad, director of news and information for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, said leaders of the society’s mosque in northwest Oklahoma City are on alert and taking security precautions"

Fucking typical.  Not a word about the unfortunates killed and wounded, just a whine about potential Islamophobia.  All these fuckers should be sent back to whatever hell hole they emerged from. 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:51 | 5260958 Everybodys All ...
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If people had any common sense this mosque would be closed and that is how any sane society would deal with this type of craziness.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:34 | 5261278 WillyGroper
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So, the actions of one muslim convert tars them all.

Same fucking logic as condemning all jews. 

Who's to say psychotropics or MK ultra can be ruled out? Not to mention getting fired.

The world has gone mad.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 18:14 | 5261380 Monty Burns
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You're right.  50% of Muslims give the rest a bad name.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 22:03 | 5261911 Everybodys All ...
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Wake up Willy. These people represent nothing but evil.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 13:09 | 5262794 WillyGroper
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I'm fully awake.

I can only base this on my experience with the people I know. (muslims, blacks, jews, pick ur favorite target)

I'd be willing to bet many here that condemn entire "groups" of people have probably never ventured out of the state in which they live, let alone the cuntry.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:59 | 5262077 sirnzee
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There's an article out about the press conference that followed.  It was attended by many Muslims.  You can see them in the accompanying picture.  During the conference, they read the Koran and some shouted "Praise Allah".  You'll find the article on Drudge.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:24 | 5261247 WillyGroper
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Which is precisely how the FBI investigated at least two cases of vandalism & destruction of property at their Muslim school. 

WTF you want them to say. This redneck state PASSED an Islamaphobic state law that was overturned.

The muslims in OK tried to give as a gift a Quran to the state legislature. Some accepted, some refused. No one said they had to read it. A representative of Norman named Martin had no problem rejecting the gift but taking their campaign funding.

My son made him eat his hypocrisy publicly at the tender age of 14.  

For all you that continue to attribute "Infidel" to the muslim faith, it originated with that bastion of purity, the Catholic church. 

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:48 | 5260939 Minnalousha
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Downplay what?

...

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:09 | 5261019 Freddie
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If Obama had a son.....

Looks a bit like an older Trayvon.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 18:30 | 5261421 tempo
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Gun violence stopped the killing. Oh my.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 21:50 | 5261882 drendebe10
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OMG - ban knives! Ban knives!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 21:50 | 5261883 drendebe10
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OMG - ban knives! Ban knives!

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 00:20 | 5262102 Amerikan Patriot
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Most of the MSM has steadfastly avoided talking about how the owner of the plant - a deputy - saved a woman's life because he had a gun on him.

Remember, guns are bad.

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:43 | 5260282 Jethro
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Religion of Peace strikes again

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5260300 COSMOS
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Tell that to the USS Liberty.  Both of those Middle Eastern Religions are bleeding us out of both ends.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:49 | 5260319 Jethro
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Who said that I like Israelis? Fuck the Middle East. All of it.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:54 | 5260347 COSMOS
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Totally agree with you, Fuck that place.  Tens of thousands of dead and maimed US Soldiers for a bunch of religious zealots.  Let the Semites spill their own blood, after whichever tribe wins, then nuke the damn place once and for all.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:13 | 5260472 stacking12321
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both?

i think you mean all 3.

if you think christianity is any better, you are seriously deluding yourself.

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:19 | 5260518 Dr. Engali
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Yeah, the Christians are running all over the place chopping people's heads off.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:30 | 5260573 IronShield
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No, they just import all those stupid fuks here.  Brilliant!

And those other stupid fuks are trying their best to import Ebola too!  Yep, Christians are one brilliant set of folks.  Idiot.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:47 | 5260655 Dr. Engali
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As I have progressed through life I have found that the people who resort to name calling when engaging another in a dispute are usually the people with the lowest IQ.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:28 | 5260848 IronShield
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Yep, same here, especially those that can't read.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:51 | 5260684 Keyser
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Nah, Christians and Jews have F-16s, F-22s and drones... No need to get their hands dirty... Religions, all of you are fucking nutters...

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:15 | 5260800 Dr. Engali
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Funny, I don't ever remember flying an F-22. I suppose I could have been drunk at the time.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:29 | 5260853 IronShield
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Kinda like when you're posting, eh?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:38 | 5261286 TBT or not TBT
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That could happen to any of us.   

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:02 | 5260957 hoist the bs flag
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yeah...that is so many "X" centuries old, fuck that shit...not counting witch burnings and Inquistions, that Indian small pox blankets for food program was pretty spiffy too. "Jesus hugs" n all.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:35 | 5261073 hoist the bs flag
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down vote away...pax americana by crook and by cross

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:37 | 5261282 WillyGroper
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The USSA invaded where?

How many countries in how many years did Clark say?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:50 | 5260324 madcows
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doyou mean the USS Cole?  Or the Liberty.  the liberty was mistaken for an egyptian ship.  The Cole however was targeted by muslims.  note, i don't add "Fanatics".  All f-ing muslims are fanatics.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:04 | 5260399 Duffy
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"mistaken for an egyptian ship. "

 

No - it wasn't.  Even some of the hasbara trolls are admitting it was sunk because they feared it was spying on the Zionists.

The Jews executed a bunch of captured Egyptians too and back then, it wasn't as clear the US gov and media would cover up Israeli war crimes.

 

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:08 | 5260431 44magnum
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"the liberty was mistaken for an egyptian ship. " ASSHOLE

FLYING LARGE US FLAGS. Not one but two US flags.

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:39 | 5260568 Bastiat
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On a crystal clear day . . and the ship's log recorded a number of overflights by Israeli reconnaissance that morning.  GTR5 in HUGE letters on the bow:  http://www.gtr5.com/image-viewer.htm?gallery/before/lgliberty-portrait.jpg

Here's a good summary of the facts:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html#page=1

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:21 | 5260531 655321
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mistaken for an Egyptian ship.....ok, you have an obvious disnformation agenda, nice try.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:43 | 5260634 FeralSerf
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All f-ing Zionists are fanatics. They believe they're God's Chosen People that are destined to rule the earth.

There is reason to strongly suspect that the Zionists were behind the Cole attack as well. Who benefited by the Cole attack? The Zionists.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:55 | 5260709 Keyser
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How about all religions derived from the original concept of God are fucking fanatics... Christians, Jews and Muslims all have a superiority complex... You don't see Buddhists, Taoists or Hindus bombing the shit out of each other, cutting off heads and invading other countries... FFS, look in the mirror and get a grip... 

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5260305 Dr Strangemember
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So how much more of this violence from muslims are we going to have to witness and endure before it's crystal clear to all that ISLAM IS A FUCKING DISEASE??!!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:00 | 5260375 youngman
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When the Pope finally turns.....that is when its a war between us vs them...which is what they are doing right now...we are hiding behind our PC liberal thought....

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:42 | 5260401 Number 156
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How much more? Until it becomes a political issue in the form of an albatross around the neck of politicians. Everything is driven by politics.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:42 | 5261294 Dr.Vannostrand
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ALL organized religion is a fucking disease!!!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:49 | 5260313 taketheredpill
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Were the Nazis Protestant or Catholic?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:52 | 5260329 RisingSun
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taketheredpill, trying to red herring here? Nazis didnt kill in the name of religion, they killed because of their "aryan" race...Hitler was very friendly with Muslims if you didnt know.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:53 | 5260696 FeralSerf
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Do the Zionists kill in the name of religion? Or is it because of their "race"?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:21 | 5260358 Space Animatoltipap
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Nazis many times were very civilised people. Why should they have accepted a strangle to death Versailles treaty? btw The very same NY/London dark alliance that arranged for the Versailles treaty is again destroying everything except their own lousy bank balances.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:58 | 5260369 Lea
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The Nazis had their own brand of religious mishmash, a kind of half-baked teutonic aryan paganism, with bits of back-to nature lolloping in fields thrown in. Hitler was a vegetarian and an animal-lover, btw.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:56 | 5260977 Skip
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"Hitler was a vegetarian and an animal-lover"

Oy Vey! The FIEND!!!!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:02 | 5262017 BraveSirRobin
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""Hitler was a vegetarian and an animal-lover"

Oh, then he was OK.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:02 | 5260390 25or6to4
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Taketheredpill
Niether,Nazis where/are pagans. Try another pill.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:13 | 5260489 Number 156
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Forget it.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:19 | 5260503 655321
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They weren't financed by either.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:17 | 5261035 PrintemDano
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Atheist.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:55 | 5261155 VAD
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They weren't Christian.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:45 | 5261305 WillyGroper
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Khazars

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 22:21 | 5261940 Estrella
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taketheredpill, you obviously have not studied. The NAZIs worshiped the occult. Dig into it just a bit, which you won't of course, and you will be shocked.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 06:15 | 5262305 free_lunch
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“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”

  -Joseph Goebbels on propaganda

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:44 | 5260283 Dr Strangemember
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Unfortunately, it has to get much worse before it can get better.   This is only the start.  

 

Buy guns to protect yourself b/c the government will not and does not want to protect its citizens anymore.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:53 | 5260339 dobermangang
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Thankfully, a company official had a gun to stop the attack.  Got guns bitchez!

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:01 | 5260387 COSMOS
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Never bring a knife to a gun fight. I guess this moron didnt notice that in the beheading videos, the dude had a shouder strap and a 9mm hanging under his left arm.  He not only had a knife but a gun and he wasnt even in a fight,  the victim was hogtied.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:07 | 5260423 dobermangang
Fri, 09/26/2014 - 23:04 | 5262019 BraveSirRobin
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Now you did it. You pointed out their successful tactics. They are studying your post and will improve their methods. Now they will all use them and are all doomed. 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:07 | 5260422 Amish Hacker
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We're talking about Oklahoma, dobie. I'll bet you a sandwich that the boss kept the gun in his desk, second drawer down, right next to the bottle of bourbon.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5260310 NidStyles
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Where's that LTER at these days. I need to tell him, "I told you so!"

 

 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:56 | 5260355 25or6to4
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HH
Seems to me that the company official that shot the dirt bag needs a little brushing up on his shooting skills. There is absolutely no reason this enlightened one should not be at room temperature right now.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:33 | 5260589 BeansMcGreens
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Ever seen someone with their head gone? Saw one in a wreck onetime as a volunteer fireman. Kind of nerve racking I must say.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 15:07 | 5260735 hedgeless_horseman
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There is absolutely no reason this enlightened one should not be at room temperature right now.

Sounds to me like maybe the shooter is a smart man that understands he shot the bad guy in order to STOP him because death or serious bodily injury was IMMINENT, and not to kill him. 

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:26 | 5261253 Monty Burns
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Also, if the Trayvon and Micheal Browne cases are anything to go by the shooter might have found himself in the dock for killing this child.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:44 | 5261304 TBT or not TBT
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You paid attention in your CHL class.   Still, was it extraordinary restraint and skill by the responding citizen(trained to aim center body mass), or bad shot grouping?   Which of the two let the deranged perp like live?

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:02 | 5261183 css1971
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Could be you're overestimating how easy it is to kill someone in real life. Moving target, adrenalin dump, shaking hands, tunnel vision etc. I'll bet he fired half a dozen shots or more.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 13:58 | 5260357 joego1
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I keep a tactical folder towards the front center of my body and practice opening it with one hand everyday (left and right). Present it like a pistol. Might save my bacon some day.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:03 | 5260392 XitSam
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As the DHS recommends, I carry a pair of scissors.  /s

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:28 | 5260559 hedgeless_horseman
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Why the /sarcasm?

Kershaw's kitchen scissors come apart in a fraction of a second
providing the holder with not one, but two very sharp and ergonomic
fighting blades.

Perfect for the kids' school backpacks should they need them quickly for an arts and crafts project.

Don't run with scissors...stop and fight.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:39 | 5260617 joego1
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Good point! I've accidentally cut myself good a couple of times with scissors.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:59 | 5260719 oddjob
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Running w/toothbrushes cause more injuries than scissors.

Sat, 09/27/2014 - 20:33 | 5263740 XitSam
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That's because people don't have the scissors in their mouth when they trip and fall.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 16:57 | 5261018 css1971
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I carry a bicycle lock in my bag.

Not the heaviest chain available because it has to be fast, but substantial nonetheless. Normal day to day nobody gives it a second thought; a completely innocent item wiith a 3/4 yard reach and capable of breaking breezeblocks with the lock on the end.

Better though is if you can keep your opponent at a distance. Which is where staff implements come in. mops, brooms, brushes, gardening implements etc.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 17:05 | 5261192 css1971
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p.s. I like the way you think.

Fri, 09/26/2014 - 14:36 | 5260493 hedgeless_horseman
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Which folder?  We used to carry the Benchmade LFTi, but have switched to Hoffner's folder, which is much thinner and lighter, better concealed because it sits deeper in the pocket with the clip, and best of all it has a much, much, better tactical index when slick from blood or body fluids.

Periodically, mrs. horseman, the little
horsemen, their friends, and I all really enjoy putting on the paintball
masks, getting down to our skivvies, and grabbing different colored
sharpies for a little single-elimination sharpie fighting tournament in
the front yard.  In order to advance past an opponent you must get three marks either 1) over the anterior surface of the arms (brachial artery and flexor tendons) 2) on the neck (carotid artery) 3) thorax (heart and lungs), or 4) medial aspects of the thighs (femoral artery). 
To avoid confusion, have a referree stop the fight after each
engagement to check for hits, and use your own color Sharpie to cross
out any of you opponents hits.  You will not believe how quickly everyone improves, and how much fun it is.  Sorry, there is no app for this.

 

As I have mentioned before, this is an excellent book:

Cold Steel: The Art of Fencing with the Sabre

By: Alfred Hutton, Ramon Martinez

Additional topics include approaches suitable for left-handed fencers, ceremonial aspects of the art, and contrasts between the sabre, the bayonet, and the French sword. Descriptions of associated weapons cover the great stick and the constable's truncheon, and the book concludes with considerations of the short sword-bayonet, or dagger. Fifty-five illustrations demonstrate how to hold the sabre, how to parry and guard, seizure, and numerous other aspects of the art of fencing with a sabre.

However, it is no substitute for a good tactical knife class, a series of self-defense classes, and lots of practice.

 

Remember friends, when you put you pants on, you put your knife on.

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