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"The Information War For Ukraine"

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When one of the most watched German channels - south German state TV channel ZDF - releases an 8+ minute satirical spoof of all the fabricated "news" surrounding the Ukraine "ïnvasion" by Russia and all the associated newsflow from the region (in which "any similarity to the current news is unintended and accidental, but absolutely inevitable"), you know that the time has come to double down on the propaganda effort because if ground zero of media indoctrination, Germany, is starting to see through the fog of endless media BS, then how long until the rest of the world follows?

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Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:17 | 5265525 junction
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We have already lost the Information War For America.  The New World Order has won.  How sad for us peasants.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:19 | 5265529 knukles
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Most people know its bullshit. 
Even some of my uber-liberal buds started to ask questions like "Why are we bombing the Kardashians?" and "Who the f%$#@ are those Kardashians?"
They know.
Honest.

They do.

Hell, it's the hard core neo-cons and deep into the Progressive bunker liberals that still beleieve it.  And they're the outliers, anymore.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:31 | 5265536 X.inf.capt
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WTF...

russias already won that info war...

girls in moscow wearing t-shirts with missiles on them...

saying 'this is what we think of your sanctions'

and when the girls want to fight...

 the boys will fight

GAME OVER...BITCHEZ!

 

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:10 | 5265623 NoDebt
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I watched 'Wag the Dog' again today.  Forgot how good that movie is.  Still, compared to this Ukraine thing it's like kindergarten.

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:52 | 5265817 Berspankme
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Recently read legacy of ashes, story of cia. What a despicable cowardly lying incompetent org they always have been and still are . Even their propaganda smells like horseshit

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:04 | 5265949 Bunga Bunga
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German journalist reveals he was paid by CIA

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=72a_1411897891

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 23:49 | 5266064 Anusocracy
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Humor and satire can function euphemistically to help wrongdoing seem more acceptable.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:18 | 5266190 The9thDoctor
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Klinton losing information war
http://youtu.be/m1p-E2xmpjA

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 09:01 | 5266463 homonohumanus
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I remember that one, it goes very well on showing how biased information is.

I remember  sending the vid to a couple of people which respond by ignoring it, I guess lack of counter argument is the best ultiamte counter argument.

 

Anyway, most of the content on the web is "editorialise" as we put it in French, it doesn't mean that journalists can't speak but have to use some specific words...

 

On the matter of Putin and Russia at large, everybody including bloggers speak about Putin and the "oligarchs" surrounding him.

Would those same people (so even people posting here be it in the comment sections or posting articles) uses the same wording for the riches people in US or EU. I mean there are even more riches people here in US or EU and it is not like there are changing that often...

 

Words are of utter importance,  looking at Russia and PUtin from outside what I see is that:

Salaries skied rocket on average

Overal debt crumbled

Infrastructure got better

Military got back to working order

 

Now how can any reasonable person expect a guy, supposedly as corrupted as Putin, or a country supposedly as corrupted as Russia to pull that one?

It makes no sense and it is actually impossible. Putin is surrounded by succesful businessmen that agreed on putting the national interest first and it shows, that is al there is.

As factual evidence are too strong, the media speak of "oligarchs" without atually ever presenting evidence about what the real situation in Russia is. De facto the a priori associated with the word "oligarchs" feel the commoner's mind which imagination goes on filling the blank let by the media (in that case pretty much anything factual...).

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 09:46 | 5266611 TahoeBilly2012
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Germany was sold out by its Tribal bankers for the Treaty of Balfour during WW1. Germany was winning the war (it didn't want or start), when the rug was pulled from under it by own bankers and their US Tribal friends. All Tribal money started backing the Allies and the US papers (Tribal owned) pushed the US people into war.

Has anything changed?

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 15:44 | 5268042 Jaka98
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Trolls publisher Axel Springer take up to 450 euros a month

http://www.auria.sk/blog/trollovia-vydavatelstva-axel-springer-beru-do-4...

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:06 | 5266176 Freddie
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Go search Dave McGowan and Laurel Canyon.

All about how the whole hippie movement and shitty California bands were created to hijack the anti-war movement with kids from intel families.  This also included many actors.  Intel parents and founding families like David Crosby's family.  Oddly enough - everyone's daddy seemed to be intel or a spook. 

And at the top of Laurel Canyon was a film studio for the govt. A huge studio where famous actors also went to.  There was also supposedly See Eye Aye mind control going on their including Operation Ultra.

And then a lot of these stars and music stars started dying.

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

Boston Marathon - Dave McGowan take:

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr114.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUUasatKFE

David Crosby - an amazingly connected douchebag who's old man supposedly worked at the post office but had been intel all the way and his families were those Dutchies who founded and controlled NY. 

Also Sandy Hook Weirdos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPOQ_tD0IzE

Odd how all these Sandy Hook people are doing devil signs, photoshopped images with missing leggs, fingers, bent legs.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:07 | 5266179 Idaho potato head
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Spin on big river spin on......

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:29 | 5265786 Antifaschistische
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All i ask of the ZH community is that you actually speak with humans in eastern ukraine beforw solidifying any opinion....I would tell you what they tell me.......but that may be biased also

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:34 | 5265794 jm
Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:29 | 5265547 ebworthen
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Last year we were going to bomb Syria; this year we're bombing those fighting Syria.

That has to at least make some people blink once or twice.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:13 | 5265628 NoDebt
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Not the propogandists (MSM).  They switched from Eurasia to Eastasia in mid-sentence without even breaking cadence.  At least that's how George Orwell described it in '1984'.

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:21 | 5265981 trulz4lulz
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"I was against the War before the War Im now for, of which at a later date, I may be for moar War on that War, in order to stop War. Unless its a War waged to stop our Wars, at which time I will declare War on those Wars in order to continue the War."

Prz. Obombya 2014

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:51 | 5266466 StupidEarthlings
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Doesn't matter, as long as Syria is bombed.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:21 | 5265641 Reaper
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Trust is painless for the sheeple. Thinking hurts.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:52 | 5265704 Freddie
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Dave McGowan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwQMMQPi98

How the whole hippie movement, 60's (shit) California bands, you turk actors all sheep dipped See Eye Aye ops.

Jim Morrison, his Admiral dad and gulf of tonkin.  Dad then speaks out about the USS Liberty massacre and Jim gets whacked.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:25 | 5265986 conscious being
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All these disparate people show up in Laurel Canyon, under Lookout Mountain in LA and it turns out they all went to HS together in Alexandria, Va., just across the Potomac from DC.

Freddie, look into Lucky Lindy's father and son when you want to know about generational retribution from these evil bastards.

 

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:16 | 5266189 Freddie
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Thanks.  Lindy was smeared for being a nazi and pacifist because he was against the madness of endless war.

Jim Morrison's dad career was pretty much over when he spoke out about the USS Liberty which John McCain's admiral old man sold out the sailors.  McCain refused to send aid and recalled F-4 Phantoms to help.  Jim Morrison's dad covered up LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin lie.  Who arrived at the USS Liberty first to provide aid to dying and dead American sailors?  The Russians.   I hope there is a special place in hell for the McCains.  Johnny sold out POWs after Vietnam, was for proxy war genocide in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq, et al. 

Bro - I think we saw it recently in a story on ZH.  Remember a few months back when David Rockefeller (has to be 93 or 94) had his doctor son fly down for dinner in NY.  The son is a doc in Maine and flew his own turbo prop plane down to NY.  My guess is most of the kids want nothing to do with devil daddy.

The son was a doc and maybe he actually helped some pople unlike his satanic father.  Well - how do you really get to the old man?  You kill his son, the one who actually still would go visit the evil old man.  His plane crashed on take off.  Kind of dumb on their part because these people have enemies and people who hate them.

Likely culprit?  Well the Rockfeller's are probably in the top 3 wealthiest but the Red Schield klan has to be #1. 

David Rockfeller is the devil but you have to feel sorry for the son being, most likely, murdered.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:03 | 5265944 bid the soldier...
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Bombing the Kardashians

 

I think I could get into that.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:03 | 5266372 VAD
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Unfortunately, the resulting tidal wave of cellulite would take out many innocent bystanders.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:51 | 5265918 eXMachina
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I get peeved off with the the notion of "the new world order". Firstly it's not new, it's actually in fact the "old Anglo-American world order". Secondly it's already firmly in place and consolidating power every god damned day. People keep saying the phrase with some forward thinking trajectory as if we're moving towards this new Fascist order and if we don't change course we'll be slaves to the power elite in the not so distant future. We were born into it ffs.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:25 | 5265537 I am Jobe
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WAR is good for USSA. Think of how much Funeral Homes , Yellow Ribbons, Bumper Stickers can improve the economy . 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:45 | 5265575 WhackoWarner
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 I figure we will do online organic coffins shipped to anywhere the US is bombing for a 15% discount.  And offer to double the order for the simple cost of added shipping and handling.

Other product will be a recycled plastic shopping bag version if quick disposal is needed due to drone killings.

 

sarc.

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:25 | 5265645 Paveway IV
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I got my eye on "The Lady of Guadalupe" - the ice blue crepe interior is stunning.

http://www.costco.com/caskets-expedited-shipping-must-order-by-1100am-es...

Please note the 11:00 A.M. EST order cutoff, damn it. No exceptions.

And for the low-end version, there's no reason to go the recycled shopping bag route. You can bag and bury organically with dignity. One has to look no further than the chlorine-free environmentally-friendly selection at the Body Bag Store [sigh... of course]:

http://bodybagstore.com/chlorine-free-body-bags.html

Unless you live in California: California passes plastic bag ban, would be first such law in U.S

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/30/us-usa-california-bags-idUSKBN...

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:57 | 5265938 bid the soldier...
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War is only good for America when it is fought in a land 8000 miles away.

And only if American corporations get the major share of contracts to rebuild the infrastructure.

Then war is a blessing.

Do you understand that, Syria?

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:24 | 5265538 no more banksters
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"While the EU and US were occupied with the war against terrorism as well as with the dead-end wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas of the planet, Putin had all the time to build his own mechanism against Western propaganda. Being himself a man who had come to power with the help of media, he built his own media network which includes, for example, the TV network Russia Today, according to the Western standards, and "invaded" in millions of homes in the Western countries using the English language, promoting however the Russian positions as counterweight to the Western propaganda monopoly."

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/05/the-big-barrier-called-putin....

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:26 | 5265649 ramacers
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think the dumb, plodding, stoic russian stereotype is dead.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:27 | 5265539 ebworthen
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That's great, glad some Germans are thinking.

Americans, not so much.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:40 | 5265565 I am Jobe
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Most Americans think as they drive from one fast food to the other while texting and talking about what to do with their IAPPS and when the next phone release will be out. 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:01 | 5265597 X.inf.capt
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true

+1

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:39 | 5265566 I am Jobe
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Most Americans think as they drive from one fast food to the other while texting and talking about what to do with their IAPPS and when the next phone release will be out. 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:02 | 5265601 X.inf.capt
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it was better the first time

still...

+1

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:13 | 5265860 Bollixed
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A greeny for you, lol.

What's weird is looking at the timestamps and post numbers of the double posts. They're backwards...

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:31 | 5265552 Kawaii Empress ...
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I thought the Gerries didn't have a sense of humour? I've been waiting for the Tylers to post this, it is brilliant.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:40 | 5265554 teslaberry
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this is nonsense. the peasantry in the u.s. have the 'daily show' and 'bill maher' and other comic nonsense. 

 

the german are occupied territory of the u.s. and nato and the intelligence agencies that serve these two masters.

 

 

the popular culture can make as much fun as it wants. their only possible meaningful first act would be to violently overthrow their own government in order to kick the u..s military out of germany. the same goes with japan. 

 

if you disagree with me, you fundamentally misundertand how public opinoin and propoganda are controlled as a dialectical dynamic process. 

kings and empires have dealt with and co-opted dissidence for a long long time. humor is not so much a threat to the established order as one simple method of co-opting dissent with distraction. 

 

just because veryone isn't on the same page doens't mean the true powers haven't dealt with and done this courtship before. 

 

if you doubt me as yourself why people like george carlin were allowed to 'make fun' for so many decades. because it makes no difference. 

 

only in places of severe authoritarianism like china---is humor a weapon. why? because the society is always on the precipice of fracturing. too little stability, too many mouths to feed and too much of a tradition of stricture leads to the outlaw of political comedy. one day soon, the chinese will wisen up and learn the benfits of encouraing and manipulating this element of the dialectic.....

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:52 | 5265586 Ignatius
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I'll try and paraphrase your thought:  War begins with final victory.

Did I get that right?  Asshat.

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:03 | 5265841 Milton Waddams
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Court jester

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:31 | 5265556 sampo
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Priceless!

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:36 | 5265560 JustObserving
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Information war for Ukraine is being run by the CIA and its media assets:

Since the beginning of the week, the three most influential mass circulation newsmagazines of the United States, Britain, and Germany—Time, The Economist, and Der Spiegel—have published cover stories that combine wild accusations against Vladimir Putin with demands for a showdown with Russia.

The most striking and obvious characteristic of these cover stories is that they are virtually identical. The CIA has scripted them all. The stories employ the same insults and the same fabrications. They denounce Putin’s “web of lies.” The Russian president is portrayed as a “depraved” mass murderer.

What is the Russian president to make of the use of this sort of language in the most influential newsmagazines? He is on the receiving end of the same campaign of vilification that was previously directed against Serbia’s Slobodan Milosevic, Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi, and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. Putin certainly knows the outcome of these propaganda campaigns. Serbia was bombed into political submission and Milosevic was carted off to The Hague, where he died, mysteriously, in prison. Iraq was invaded and Hussein executed. Libya was also invaded, and Gaddafi—much to the amusement of Hillary Clinton—was savagely tortured and lynched. As for Assad, the United States has directed a bloody insurgency that has resulted in the deaths of more than 100,000 Syrians.

Given this record, Putin could hardly be accused of paranoia were he to conclude that the United States and its European allies want him dead

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/pers-j30.html

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:52 | 5265585 WhackoWarner
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I thought it far fetched at the time.  The idea that MH17 was mistaken for Putin's plane.  NOT so sure anymore.

 

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:51 | 5265926 bid the soldier...
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Yup.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:59 | 5265720 Freddie
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The same people who created the hippie movement to sabotage the anti war movement. Using the kid of ultra elites and intelligence agents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwQMMQPi98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh7-cvxEm7g

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 23:00 | 5266029 conscious being
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Again Freddie - thanks for the links. From the first one

"A lurid tale of murder, satanism, pedophilia, ritual abuse and mind control of the top entertainers, the music that shaped decades if not the rest of our lives--all false... Alice in Wonderland, an ILLUSION, and nothing more."

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:35 | 5265562 hotrod
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Guess Saturday Night Live would be shut down as terrorists if they did this.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:02 | 5265600 Fred Hayek
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It's impossible to even imagine Lorne Michaels' twee little show of irrelevance making these jokes.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:49 | 5265923 bid the soldier...
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Imagine if John Belushi were still here to play Poroshenko.  With Dana Carvey as Yats

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:39 | 5265567 Kirk2NCC1701
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This is Monty-Python Class comedy.  Great satire of German press, its government and Merkel's CSU party.

The Germans know what's really going on.  Unlike 'Mericans, they are actually informed and opinionated -- even if they haven't started protesting en masse just yet.  Germans have NO interest to suffer or bleed for NATO and its Neo/Zio-Con directors.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:50 | 5266167 Haus-Targaryen
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My girlfriend -- whos whole family is from East of the (former) wall -- would agree with you -- as do I.  

The Americans, French and British have cultivated this "no war" thing for decades here in Germany, and just when the three really could use the German military machine to spring to life -- most Germans are kinda like "yawn -- we're gonna be the new Switzerland, and while you asshats are destroying eachother, we'll get filthy right."  

I had a buddy yesterday (he is Bavarian, just FYI, so for those of you who don't know the "Texas" of Germany) tell me that Poland is run be morons -- truly people withough the ability to think independently.  His thesis was that Germany will broker a deal with the Ruskies where they can essentially re-establsh their old empire, and Germany will tie down the British and French in EU political nonsense for decades if Germany can get back the old Ost-Preußen, which is the newly industralized part of Poland.  

Interesting through, he had a few reasons why he thought this was logically to happen, and I couldn't really find a flaw in his logic.  

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 07:11 | 5266306 zeroheckler
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rather doubtful - Germany still has a severe case of indigestion from swallowing the former GDR

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:41 | 5265569 My Days Are Get...
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I have a neighbor in VT, whose son served 6 years in the Marines, about 20 years ago.  My neighbor is a retired Teamster and a hardcore RedNeck.

One year ago, his grandson was a senior in high school and planning to follow dad's footsteps into the Marine Corps.  By that time, both my neighbor and his son knew that the US military was being exploited for malicious foreign incursions.  My neighbor and his son told the grandson to go to college and not be exploited in the military.  My neighbor is financing half of his grandson's education.  The kid got a partial football scholarship.

The American general public is not as stupid as many will let on here.  Recently, my neighbor started questioning the "greatest story ever told" - 9/11. They, like us, know that something is wrong.  And, they, like us, do not know what to do about it.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:51 | 5265581 hotrod
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Great account.  I am hoping that the False WMD, Imminent Threat,  Iraq invasion is the catalyst for many(like your friends) to question the US intentions and truth. 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:08 | 5265617 smacker
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The frustration for people who are ahead of the pack - as in people on ZH - is that so many others take longer to get up to speed. Arthur Schopenhauer summed it up well:

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
   (Arthur Schopenhauer)

Truth does eventually out itself, it just takes time.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 03:22 | 5266230 CuttingEdge
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+1

Probably a year in the case of a certain Malaysian airliner's black box at Farnborough. I guess the cunts running this farce think Putin will be done and dusted by then.

Saddam's WMD springs to mind...

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:39 | 5265902 therevolutionwas
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just wait, it's coming.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:46 | 5265919 bid the soldier...
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A very nice story.

But one that takes a lot of extrapolating to convert into a movement 320,000,000 Americans can hang their hat on.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 00:38 | 5266113 tenpanhandle
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If teamsters are such hardcore rednecks, how come they vote with the commies & wussies?

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:42 | 5266161 SubjectivObject
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Within the culture, the traditional "history of military service" and such similar, needs to become a "history of political activism". Nothing will change in the US until activism begins at the local level, and all us locals contend with ourselves first.  "We have met the "enemy", and he is us"

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:42 | 5266162 cheech_wizard
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>And, they, like us, do not know what to do about it.

I actually came up with a solution/plan. Unfortunately it involves a lot of bloodshed at two very specific times in the near future. It would require people that would be willing to sacrifice their lives in order to carry it out. I try not to think about it that much, as I don't particularly like when I go down these roads in my head. But I can guarantee you it would work. I've said enough, I need a drink now.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:49 | 5266460 VAD
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We need a few thousand selfless lovers of freedom to snipe the politicians, bureaucrats, and lawyers to start with.  When a few of them start turning up with bullet holes in their heads, maybe............just fucking maybe..........the rest will straighten up.

 

I'll be keeping my eyes open for the drones today.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:46 | 5265576 Duc888
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"you know that the time has come to double down on the propaganda effort"

 

I'm thinking Alien Invasion or something really kewl within 3-4 years.  I'm gonna bag me a 14 ft Reptoid with green eyes and scales.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:01 | 5265595 smacker
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"... a 14 ft Reptoid with green eyes and scales."

Would that be John McCain on stilts??

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:44 | 5266165 SubjectivObject
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It's all about optics:  John MICain on TV.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:04 | 5265580 tony wilson
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it is funny butt

german is an open prison

a nice one but cia,mi6and mossad run

this is a bottle pressure fart burp

a laugh

 

this is the bbc

or the zdf

whatever

tavistock pschologies they been at it 100 years init.

music,movies,tv and comedy russel bland low level mi5 agents.

laughters is good

beatles are amazin

paul mcarthy and bonio from u2

coolio

empire of the city of london modern ish agents.

like isis,ira and alls

all gladio some some soft power some bloody hard

 

from the saker...

 

"sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"

Namely NOT that words aren't powerful (words have started revolutions and brought the most powerful to their knees) but words can be manipulated in the most devastating psychological way.

Britain and the USA not only had satirical humour thrown at the sheeple, but the most powerful Elites encouraged satirical humour and actually crafted laws to make it plain to everyone that satirical attacks against the 'powerful' were PROTECTED SPEECH. Why?

The sheeple sometimes get angry, and their anger is like a balloon inflating. Having the sheeple laugh at their 'betters' safely deflates this anger, ensuring that 'revolutionary' thoughts are nicely dissipated.

There is good reason few of you here have ever heard of Edward Bernays. You think you can understand events from a simple observation of 'facts', but nothing is further from the truth. Most of you here talk about the 'trees', and never come close to perceiving the 'forest'.

Dubious people will constantly suggest that funny pictures and cutting words are successfully fighting our battle, when in reality the very opposite is true.

Realism and an adherence to the facts that matter are the only mental strategies that can aid us.

Our side has won (at great cost) extraordinary battles in Novorussia, but all this is about to become nought. Without actual independence, Kiev has the absolute right, under International Law, to place federal forces throughout Novorussia- and no 'treaty' or agreement of 'devolved' powers can halt this. A little patience, and Kiev can ensure a uniformed infrastructure in Novorussia that no possible form of new revolt can hope to dislodge.

It gets worse. Kiev can, under international law, seek any amount of external military assistance to help fight internal enemies. No 'treaty' can prevent this either.

Those telling you to laugh along with useless, pointless 'satirical' TV shows are hoping you won't notice the real facts on the ground.

PS Margaret Thatcher 'suffered' years of the most biting TV satire, "Spitting Image". This 'hurt' her so 'badly', she was able to give the world her anointed 'son', Tony Blair.

Those talking about Novorussia, but NOT demanding independence now our not on our side.

26 September, 2014 15:07

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 18:59 | 5265593 smacker
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Brilliant.

Meanwhile, in the UK the BBC, Sky News, Daily Mail, Daily Express, Telegraph, The Sun and of course the Cameron Coalition Govt haven't changed the script from Day One:

      "It was the Russians wot did it."

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:01 | 5265596 Cacete de Ouro
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Where's Spain_Buca when you need him? Hellooo, Spain_Buca?????

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:10 | 5265604 AdvancingTime
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When governments spy on their people and government propaganda programs intersect it is very dangerous and the potential of abuse is huge. This leads down a road towards less freedom and is paved with the bones of all those who have failed to be outraged by governments slowly removing their liberties This leaves all of us open to both blackmail or abuse by those in power for what they claim is a greater good as they determine just what that might be.

Never overestimate the sophistication and ability of our government to clarify exactly what is happening anywhere and at any time. The recent score of scandals plaguing Washington makes it clear that more fact-free confusion and speculation the fuel of propaganda-based reporting system is in no shortage. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/when-propaganda-and-surveillance....

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:28 | 5265605 Jorgen
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This is not a laughing matter...

Will Russia and China Hold Their Fire Until War Is the Only Alternative? by Paul Craig Roberts

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:58 | 5265723 ramacers
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he's got it right...  it'll be nuclear. any other way (conventional) would be tantamount to a gentlemen's agreement to accept subjugation. that didn't happen in stalingrad.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:04 | 5265608 Cacete de Ouro
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Where do Gladio hang out in London?

a) Office in Whitehall
b) Basement in Vauxhall
c) Goldman Sachs, Peterborough Court, Fleet St
d) Safe-house in Victoria eating Indian takeaways

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:13 | 5265627 tony wilson
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Where do Gladio hang out in London?

in here but do not tell anyone schhhh

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKpREmP-vUw&list=UUldfvyaPuBSpw8iDmUgZwnA

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:29 | 5265661 q99x2
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Maybe the military will get the message.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:09 | 5265746 Freddie
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There was a video, it might be this one, on the underground tunnels for the elites running under much of the USA.  Jesse Ventura, on his TV show seen on youtube, exposed them on the Ark and Missou border.  

One of these videos talks about the elites were getting ready for nuke war and Air Force intelligence found out about it and blew up some of the tunnels with nuke devices.   It sounds incredible outlandish but those huge underground facilities are all over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brk5cH6pwwM

He mentions it at 5:00 minutes in.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 19:49 | 5265696 HardlyZero
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I read that Friday there was a deal for gas supplies this Winter.  

 

Now I see Saturday (AFP) that ...."Ukraine Backs Off From EU-Backed Russia Gas Deal"

Kiev (AFP) - War-torn Ukraine on Saturday distanced itself from an EU-brokered agreement with Russia that would have restored its gas supplies during winter and helped rebuild trust between the neighbouring foes. 

The European Union's energy commissioner emerged from hours of acrimonious negotiations in Berlin on Friday to pronounce the three month dispute on the verge of being resolved.

And Winter approaches.  Next Thursday, Kiev temps 12C/1C.  http://www.bbc.com/weather/703448

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:06 | 5265735 Amerikan Patriot
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The new USSR is being reconstituted under Vladimir Putin.  All the old hallmarks - repressions, beatings, gulags, state controlled media - are being resurrected.

Stay tuned to Zero Hedge for further details!

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:23 | 5265765 tbd108
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You win, hands down, biggest jackass of the weekend award. Your prize is a weekend on the south side of Chicago (transportation not included).

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:02 | 5265836 Amerikan Patriot
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Sorry Bob - you can do better than ad hominem attacks.   :-)

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:20 | 5265867 tbd108
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I would think you would be used to being called a jackass (as opposed to a donkey butt). Your understanding of what is happening in Russia (as opposed to the USSA) indicates to me that you get your news (and views) from CNN.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:10 | 5265745 nah
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Russia wins cold war

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:16 | 5265757 Karaio
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Old news. 

Saker put this video two days ago. 

New news: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-cBISOTZzg 

:-)

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:21 | 5265872 trulz4lulz
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America is going to get its ass kicked by indifference. At least well have plenty of time to think over our actions while we are in time out. 

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:38 | 5266157 conscious being
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"Error during validation"

Looks like Youtube / Google doesn't want your Saker video being watched, Karaio.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 20:39 | 5265798 Peter Pan
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Even these satirical spoofs play their role by allowing for comedic release and thus taking the sting out of everyone's questioning and anger over what the west is doing.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:41 | 5266160 conscious being
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PP this is how information spreads. This is how artists move the meme along.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:00 | 5265831 kchrisc
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Looks like the time is ripe for the the Rothschilds to sponsor another maniacal dictatorship in Germany.

An American, not US subject.

 

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:07 | 5265852 Amerikan Patriot
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Vladimir Putin: 

"The greatest geopolitical disaster of the 20th century was the breakup of the Soviet Union."

If you'd like to help Vladimir salvage what he can of the former Soviet Union and return her to her former glory (complete with traditional beatings, detention camps and a robust state-controlled media), please pledge your undying support right here on Zero Hedge!

 

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:28 | 5265878 Peter Pan
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I think you need to differentiate between the fall of communism and the breakup of the former Soviet Union. With the fall of communism the west had an opportunity to capitalise on the Russian people's willingness to 'join' the west. Instead certain peope in the west thought it was time to asset strip her and destabilize instead for their own benefit.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:44 | 5265916 eyesofpelosi
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Right on mr. Pan. Peace and cooperation was there to be had. Instead they were treated like south america.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:25 | 5265879 therevolutionwas
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Amerikan you are.  Right up to your little ziocon hat.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:02 | 5265942 trulz4lulz
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Get a different job, GCHQ/J-Trig trolling, isnt your thing. Go back to collecting cans on the side of the road and working at the gas station part time. Its trolls like you that blow the cover off the whole thing. You are following the handbook too closely.

Im sorry, but you are a failure. And if you dont stop, you will end up destroying the country you supposedly love. Is your job to destroy America and its credibility? Are you just part of the greater hive mind? There is no logic or knowledge in anything you say, only lies and deceit. Please, just stop. go grab a 72oz cup of HFCS and think it over for a little bit man, once you lose your dignity, its something you can never get back. Not in this life at least.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:36 | 5266003 McCormick No. 9
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It's apples and oranges AP. Russia is not the CCCP, and it never will be. Even if Russia wa able to 100% duplicate the borders of the CCCP, it could never compete with the USSA's "beatings, detention camps, and a robust stste-controlled media".

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:08 | 5266131 Ward no. 6
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here is a good site explaining what Putin meant...

 

http://russialist.org/the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union-what-was-it-the-g...

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 04:44 | 5266256 gezley
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Perhaps you'd care to explain why Jewish interests in the City of London and on Wall Street imposed the murderous Bolsheviks on Russia in the first place.

No?

Thought not.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:23 | 5265874 lost money
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a few weeks ago, Putin said he was pulling his troops out of eastern Ukraine. How can he do that if they were never there in the first place llike you folks believe? 

Oh that's right, everything USA says is lies, everything Putin says is the truth.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:15 | 5266137 Victor999
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Not so sure about Putin, but guaranteed that most everything the US says is lies.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:24 | 5265875 Karaio
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Information war ends when you have GRAD: 

Watch what it's worth: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mF5JpCzERU 

:-)

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:29 | 5265882 Jack Burton
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I don't know Germany well, it is a state I have never visited, though I know their modern history pretty well. I had no clue how their press operated or if it was owned by a corporate minority and if it was compromised like American Main Stream Media. Lately, after a German reporter blew the whistle on his work for the CIA as a part time agent, who published what the CIA instructed him to. He went on to claim he was a minor player compared to all the newspapers and television, who were totally captured by American Government interests and the military industrial complex. Now I have seen on closer look that he was right, and German press is as big a joke as CNN and FOX. Totally compromised! Indeed, if a skit like this can be made public, then perhaps the blinders are coming off. Or maybe not! One can always hope!

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:41 | 5265905 eyesofpelosi
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Sometimes they let the funny in as a way of mocking the masses. The elites let us have a laugh, but the truth is...we can't do anything about it. Joke is on us.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:38 | 5266008 Tenshin Headache
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LIke the meeting with the Saudis that was held on 9/11.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:14 | 5266136 Victor999
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95% of North American/European mainstream media are owned by huge corporate conglomerates that are controlled by Zionists.  So it is no surprise at all that the German press is a victim as well.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:41 | 5265900 Amerikan Patriot
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The Soviet Union Reconstruction Project needs plenty of volunteers - like you! - skilled in written and oral prevarication to work stints at Russia Today under various pseudonyms (which will be assigned). 

If you have a talent for turning out unfailingly obsequious articles and other mindless puffery, please don't hesitate to inquire.  We at Russia Today understand that one can never have too many positive images and articles featuring our Dear Leader, so if you feel we may have missed an opportunity to present Vladimir in an exemplary fashion, we ask that you contact us forthwith.

Perhaps you have a photo of Vlad wrestling a crocodile or an underling being compliantly beaten into submission by the 5 foot 7 leader's Judo skills?  Or maybe you'd simply like to point out that Putin's approval ratings are nearly as high as Stalin's?  Well, what are you waiting for - put pen to paper and send us your entry!

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:04 | 5265948 trulz4lulz
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I like feeding Trolls. Hi! I see you......I know your game little man-child. If you are even a man. Are you a man, or are you software? That is the real question.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:16 | 5266187 Haus-Targaryen
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I used to think the idea of internet trolls was crap.  No government would pay people to write nonsense on the internet.  

But posters like you make me wonder.  

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:37 | 5266202 The9thDoctor
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How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
By Glenn Greenwald

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 21:39 | 5265903 infinity8
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"ground zero of media indoctrination, Germany. .. " - LOL, really?! USA took that cake way many long time ago. Please Jeebus!

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:04 | 5265937 Bunga Bunga
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German journalist reveals he was paid by CIA

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=72a_1411897891

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:05 | 5265950 conscious being
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"...but I thought we were fighting for freedom of speech?

Ja, in Russia ... not here.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:29 | 5266428 'argar the 'orrible
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You are right conscious, other countries fight for freedom, we in the UK pretend we have it.

Nemo

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:57 | 5266025 Paracelsus
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I fully recommend "The First Casualty" by Phillip Knightley.It covers war reporting and the frauds and censorship going way,way back.It should be compulsory high-school reading,if there still is such a thing as history in the syllabus.

The german satire was entertaining and thought provoking as well.

I have a distant relative who lives in southern Germany and her town,in a valley,gets warm about four months of the year.The rest of the year is gas heat,or else.

Ask yourself if a thousand Christians were to be beheaded in the Mideast,what would the west do?

The Balkans: The Russians support the Slavs. Did we expect them to throw them under the bus?

Syria: A longtime ally of Russia. Ditto.Warm water port priviledges in the Med. Votes their way in the UN.

The Ukraine: Again,do we expect the Russians to stand by and watch fellow Russian speakers get massacred?

Too many people with video camera phones downloading to the internet.Although I don't like the beheading videos being posted,the Internet has enormously strengthened the freedom of the vox populi press. The Gov't reaction around the planet to restrict the Internet only shows how scared they are.

I think it was the imprisoned soldier Chelsea Manning who leaked the Apache gun camera footage from Iraq.

Shooting up the civilians seemed to be an extreme way to keep everyone indoors,but shooting up the minivan which was being used as an ambulance,marked or unmarked as such,borders more on war crimes.Soldiers usually allow the wounded to be collected and cared for.

Some day a very good book is going to be written on the Ukrainian civil war and I don't think the west is going to come across as the white hat fellas.There will be blame for both sides naturally,in civil wars.

Unnecessary.Immoral.Not in everyones interest.Risk not worth the outcome....

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 22:58 | 5266026 Karaio
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You have no idea about the insane numbers of war in Ukraine. 

Until now - September 28, 2014 - 12,000 are dead from the Ukrainian side - soldiers, about 2,000 of Novorrussian and 3,600 civilians. 

Do you watch videos in German and Polish equipment with insignia, the Ukrainian government has lost more than 65% of its military hardware. 

The only good thing is that there are many Ukrainian women left on the market are the most beautiful in the region, the bad news is that they are smart. 

My first wife was Ukrainian, Zinaina was his first name. 

Blonde, 1.80m, blue eyes, body model. 

Had a dog's temperament! Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

hehe.

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 23:28 | 5266050 Amerikan Patriot
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In the US media there is a veritable cottage industry dealing in articles and opinion pieces - emanating from every corner of the political spectrum - that are intensely critical of President Obama's policies and presidency. 

Now, can someone please send me a link from Russia Today (or other state-controlled Russian media outlet) that is likewise virulently critical of Mr. Putin?

Hmm, I didn't think so....

 

Sun, 09/28/2014 - 23:55 | 5266070 Bay of Pigs
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-1 automatic junk for using "state-controlled" to describe Russian media and assuming the US MSM isn't state controlled itself. Other than blogs like ZH, you will never find anything of substance in the MSM concerning "truth" in America.

Wake up pal, troll, whatever you are.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:53 | 5266170 conscious being
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Here's some state controlled media in Amerika.

Murder & Mystery In Laurel Canyon ~ by David McGowan with Zeph Daniel

Music industry = psy-op. Hollywood = psy-op. Television = psy-op.

 

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 00:07 | 5266080 WTFUD
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Barry's a bitch who likes a banana in his tailpipe! Amerikan Patriot is ONE of many who lick cleans said tailpipe. It's a filthy job but someone, people like Amerikan Patriot enjoy this work.
Amerikan Patriot does overtime whenever he can, blowing CONgress and selected lobbyists.
From here on forward let's call Amerikan Patriot by his nickname BROWN NOSE.

When the time comes for ALL these BASTARDS to SWING guess what? Brown Nose will whimper like a baby who force shits his Diaper.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 06:58 | 5266301 Ancientkarma
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Your problem MAY be that Putin doesn't address you but Obama does.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 08:19 | 5266404 'argar the 'orrible
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You do a disservice to yourself Patriot. What main stream US news paper prints, or tv station broadcasts, the truth.?

Vladimir Putin is much respected in Russia.

Contrast that with Barack Obama who is so loved by his people, he has snipers on the roof of his house.

Nemo

PS. Not to mention missile launchers.

Nemo

 

 

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 00:41 | 5266115 vietnamvet
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Forecast Kiev Thur overnight temp: 32F - and in the low to mid 30s for the next five days.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:10 | 5266132 Ward no. 6
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yup it's getting cold out there....

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:33 | 5266146 Mesquite
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I suppose Asrtoturfing pays well..

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 01:40 | 5266159 are we there yet
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I am giving a lecture in 2 weeks In southern Russia in Sochi. Then in November a similar lecture in Kyiv Ukraine. I hope things stay stable.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:13 | 5266183 luckylongshot
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There is a pattern to this. The banksters were unhappy with the tally system, so funded Oliver Cromwell to overthrow the monarchy in the UK; then they were unhappy with the US producing its own money...So funded the British in the war of independance, then it happened again so the funded the south in the civil war, then they wre unhappy with Germany having its own curreny, so they created WW!, then they were unhappy with the Kerensky led democratic government in Russia. so they funded Stalin, then they were unhappy with Stalin, so they funded Hitler, then they were unhappy with Sadam Hussein, so they invented a reason to kill him, then they were unhappy with Gadaffi...ditto and now they are unhappy with Putin. If we had got rid of the banksters 200 years ago a lot less death and destruction would have occurred.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 02:19 | 5266191 SubjectivObject
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These need repeating like a commercial.

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 03:39 | 5266237 Shylockracy
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On rare occasions you may catch a glimpse of truth in the German public-funded TV; almost as if to give credibility to the thoroughly corrupt German brainwashing machine.

To understand why Germany deserves being called "ground zero of media indoctrination", you have to realize that Germany was made in USA, as in the title of the extremely interesting documentary below. It was also broadcast in the Phoenix public channel and is worth watching if you understand German.

Germany made in USA 1/6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Oze8Y64Vk

 

And for good measure, another rare find in German public-funded TV, a documentary on the lies used by NATO and the German Green-Social Democrat coalition government to justify the war of aggression against Yugoslavia in 1998.

Content warning: you will be exposed to venomous toads like Joschka Fischer, ex-Foreign Minister, extreme-left agent provocateur, Green Party Leader and currently Goldman Sachs adviser.You will see him screaming "another Holocaust is happening in Yugolsavia", "we have to bomb them to stop what may amount to another Auschwitz" and big lies of the sort.

Also in German only, I'm afraid.

"Es begann mit einer Lüge" - Doku über NATO-Einsatz in Jugoslawien, ARD 2001?‏

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcRjHX50og


Mon, 09/29/2014 - 06:32 | 5266284 Merca Visca
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...if ground zero of media indoctrination, Germany, is starting to see through the fog of endless media BS, then how long until the rest of the world follows?

Here in Argentina we started to see thrrough the fog of endless BS 5 years ago, thanks to revealing TV shows as 678 and others.

 

Mon, 09/29/2014 - 06:56 | 5266295 RabbitOne
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Before Vietnam got fully underway a radical college professor of mine railed on about the American presses treatment of the war in his history class on a cold winter’s day in the 1960’s. The lecture was boring to most of us but he finished with a remark that always stuck with me because of the look in his eyes “…most of you will come to realize in your life times the press has now been basterized by the elites to become a propaganda machine to keep millions of people like you in line with their economics and political views. It has already come to pass…”          

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