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Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?
By Charles McFarlane of Modern Farmer
Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?
“Submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot bur[s]t trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsib[l]e or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity.”
In May, the USDA's Office of Inspector General filed a request for these weapons. But why exactly do they need them?
According to a USDA press rep, the guns are necessary for self-protection.
“OIG Special Agents regularly conduct undercover operations and surveillance. The types of investigations conducted by OIG Special Agents include criminal activities such as fraud in farm programs; significant thefts of Government property or funds; bribery and extortion; smuggling; and assaults and threats of violence against USDA employees engaged in their official duties,” wrote a USDA spokesperson.
Those seem like legitimate enforcement activities, but still: submachine guns? Not everyone believes the USDA being armed to the teeth is justifiable. On Aug. 2, the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund launched a petition to support a bill that would curb the ability of agencies like the USDA to arm themselves. They see it as overkill and scare tactics, especially for smaller producers.
“What we have seen happen, with the FDA especially, is they have come onto small farms, raw milk producers, and raided the heck out of them with armed agents present,” says Liz Reitzig, co-founder of the Farm Food Freedom Coalition. “Do we really want to have our federal regulatory agencies bring submachine guns onto these family farms with children?”
The Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund petition focuses on two now infamous blows to the raw milk community – the 2010 and 2011 raids on Rawsome Food Club in Venice, California. These raids were carried out by armed federal agents, from the FDA and other agencies.
The OIG’s Investigation Development bulletins show there have been three incidents in the last year that involved firearms and two in which USDA agents were verbally threatened. Still, most of their enforcement operations surround white-collar fraud of government programs, often involving SNAP programs. “If there is fraud in the SNAP program, look at how it is implemented and make changes in the entire program,” says Reitzig. “Don’t bring machine guns onto farms.”
The Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund are not the only ones interested in taking guns out of the hands of USDA agents. Utah Congressman Chris Stewart is the sponsor of the bill on the FTCLDF petition. “At its heart it comes down to this: To myself, and for a lot of Americans, there is great concern over regulator agencies with heavy handed capabilities,” Rep. Stewart told Modern Farmer.
His bill, H.R. 4934, hopes “to prohibit certain federal agencies from using or purchasing certain firearms, and for other purposes.” When asked about the USDA’s plan for submachine guns, he said, “I can’t envision a scenario where what they are doing would require that.”
Another concern is simply accountability. The request for submachine guns from the USDA doesn’t say how many guns — asking them seems like a non-starter. “They have been very unhelpful in trying to find out any information about this,” said Rep. Stewart. “We couldn’t get answers — it doesn’t seem right to me.”
However, he also cautioned: “We have never argued that federal regulators don’t need to protect themselves.” But if USDA investigations were perceived to be potentially violent he suggested, “They should do what the rest of us do, call the local sheriff.”
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Carniverous rabbit control, bitchez!
this is getting too stupid...
When was the last time a USDA agent was killed in the line of duty?
Wake me when the Post Office installs miniguns on their little jeeps. Until then, it's .gov taking product of shelves.
"Destroy your righteous food and eat this poison. OR ELSE!"
Guns are probably going somewhere else..
Citizens need full auto weapons to defend themselves? Hell no, says the government - such weapons are not necessary for self defense.
Government thugs need full auto weapons to defend themselves? Hell yes, says the government - as public servants their lives are precious!
Law defined and applied unequally is no law at all.
Listen Snafu.
Your USSA American government agencies need to be able to overpower the sheeple when the "TIME" comes.
I don't understand why all you Americans are always griping about this?
It's stupid, just shush and get back on your "HAMPSTER WHEEL"!
The state is our ENEMY.
Period.
It's for the organic dairy farm raids they seem to conduct weekly now.
USDA......Subway Sandwiches.....Submachine Guns. There's a valid connection, man.
" He pointed that corn stalk at me, sorry had to shoot him dead, double tap, two to the chest and two to the head "
Be real afraid of transporting rotten tomatoes, you just might be called a TOMATORRIST and be shot dead by the USDA agents before you can spread those fungal spores around.
Beware that [Farmers] pitchfork and torch.
nobody creates more freedom and the noose of statism only grows tighter.
This is Barry's "civilian national security force" he talked about in Colorado Springs, summer 2008. "Just as strong, just as well funded as the military."
The forefathers called it "...a standing army on U.S. soil...".
I think it was suppose to be illegal. Better get the USDA thugs to investigate.
Oh, wait...
Nah, send in the Postal boys (and grrrrrrrrlz), they've got the new assault flame-throwers.
Attack of the killer tomatoes?
All you bitchez have probably seen it already, but the movie Farmageddon made me want to arm all the local farmers. We have our own little subsistence farm for the family, and all us neighbors share when we have too much of one item or another. I can't see USDA coming down this old country road, but who nows what happens when men get it in their head that they have power over us commoners...just as a warning to USDA...the neighbor is a really good shot.
Sub, shmub. F. that noise..
If they want true grade A choice, prime tenderizers, they need full sized M-2’s.
Are they handing them to the drug cartels? Holder seemed to think that was such a great idea, maybe these guys also?
Silly mortals! We're buying machine guns to fight a zombie army. Alex Jones explains it all. That man is a model of cool-headed sobriety.
It's for our own good, you don't want to get sick, do you? The Lord knows this and will bless them with fire.
I just heard on NPR that Barry is going to approve over 100,000 Syrian refugees to be flown and relocated to the USA. Maybe the USDA, TSA, and all the other gubmint departments see stuff we don't; like lots of trouble ahead with this flood of refugees and immigrants saturating the nation.
[PS: The poor working stiffs (like Mr Ben Dover) will have to foot the bill for this]
It's heartwarming to see how generous Merikan taxpayers are with thier money to bring more low pay jobs into the country.
... heartwarming ....
Frankencorn is DANGEROUS... not to mention Draculasoy That genetically modified stuff is getting out of control
That we know. But since the 1.7m+ purchase of bullets a few years ago (creating shortages) by the FED, the fact that the USDA wants automatic weapons and ammo is very unsetteling. Projected food shortages that the .gov only knows about? Opposite warming climate change? WTF??? Something is up.
Somebodys got to shut down non-GMO seed dispensarys for Monsanto. Those farmers can be pretty thick headed when push comes to shove. And push will come to shove.
I welcome USDA with machine guns. Now I know where I'll get mine when TSHTF.
Excellent read
I cant wait for the first batch of Fedcoat byotches to show up at my door.
Only the bad shooter needs excess rounds. Every good shooter has enough to survive anything.
Life imitates art: Chris Rock said make the bullet worth $15 and thugs will be extracting it from their victims. In 1998, when Gore was the heir apparent.
I need a bar, a hatchet or a small Schrade. A firearm is gravy. Train on that, and never be subsumed.
High speed low drag Barney thats what we'll call ya.. A tacticool operator with a schrade huh... WHat type of boots did you wear on your op's; Keds?
Hey man, if ops are considered free running with awesome young folks, then I wear Adidas!
My daughter appreciates the advantage of a set of keys, let alone a very sharp knife, so don't denigrate self actualization. Ok bro?
How about that "Tactical Defense Pen?"
http://shop.fletcherandersons.com/Tactical-Pens-Combat-Pen_c67.htm
Funny story
Not long ago the new law man in town walks into the local watering hole in little Yakutat , Alaska. He is wearing ALL his cop paraphernalia including his shiny new bullet proof vest. First guy at the end of the bar turns and looks at the law man and laughs out loud and says to the cop , " a lot of good that vest will do you in a town full of head shooters". Flustered and at a loss for words the new lawman leaves without saying a thing. The chief arrives shortly after asking everyone to go easy on the new guy.
When push comes to shove I will put my money of those of us who shoot for meat.
.300 mag goes right through Kevlar. That is the caliber of choice here in Alaska.
ONE SHOT , ONE KILL
My wife said I could get that tank now as long as I don't let it poop in the yard
Cops in full tactical gear get to go to bars in Alaska? .300 the 'caliber of choice'?
When is Alaska going to succeed? It sounds like my new favorite country.
And I hear the girls are HOT. They also like to quit on live TV with an "F" bomb. Others tend to have the deer-in-the-headlights-cute girl look.
@Paveway, did you mean to ask when is Alaska going to secede?
[facepalm] Why uh... yes, that too.
No one has bothered to make yet another obvious observation: This is a Testament to the power of the Arms lobby.
The P+L books would look quite different if the Arms makers didn't have Friends and Lobbyists in DC. Seems to me that it's either the Gov that's buying their HW, or they create another gun-confiscation scare (threaten some extreme gun rule), to get people up in arms about it and go on a buying spree. Not getting suckered again, like I was in the last gun-scare ~ 2 years ago.
After a while, two things become obvious: 1. Just how many guns and bullets does anyone need? Not 'want', but actually need. and 2. If the Gov Agencies that have nothing to do with genuine LEA activity can indulge unconstrained in military weapons, then so should Joe Public. After all, for Democracy to remain alive (or hope to), it is more important that the Gov fears its people than the People to fear its Government. In the meantime...
Seems like "The QE of Arms" - either via Public or Private consumption. Whether genuine or contrived demand.
Have you ever watched a helmet cam from a US trooper in Afghanistan or Iraq? It looks like they just randomly spray bullets (and grenades) all over the place. No enemies in sight. As far as I can tell they just like to hear their guns go bang. A lot!
Reminds me of Nam. BTW this USDA gun purchase (for some reason) brings to mind the holocaust of Ukraine whereby millions (of formerly non chosen now non human) died of starvation solely due to a small but very powerfull click in the soviet regime. Not all died of starvation as their farms were being stolen from them by useless parasites.
A lot of that has to do with the fact that they have literally limitless ammo. Even if they use up what they carry, more is always on the way. The other part of that is probably due to the fact that the whole 'avenge 9/11' thing wore off a long time ago, and many of them doubtless know they are there because of bullshit, and aren't willing to stick their head out and actually aim and risk getting shot for nothing in a bullshit war.
because suppressive fire to buy time for arty or a fast mover~
What's obvious is that the Globalists think they're in control, that's crazy. They can't even control their own heartbeat, they live by the grace. These fuckers will fall to their knees when faced with death. Never fall to your knees for any worldly power, it's better to die standing.
LIVE FREE OR DIE BITCHES!!!!!
Amen. I'll never understand the pictures of people kneeling over a ditch waiting to be shot by some asshole behind them. Better to stand as quick as possible and lunge for the fucker and get shot trying to kill him than kneeling with your back turned to him. Same for the people who kneel and sit there while their heads get hacked off with a pocket knife. Makes you wonder why they don't stand and attack or simply run away and wait to get shot. Would be a lot less traumatic and less painpul and much quicker that way at least.
It's the Military Industrial Keyneseplex at work with its surplus
Kirk2NCC1701 "Just how many guns and bullets does anyone need?"
Answer: Enough to barter for everything else you need.
Cigarettes and alcohol are good too.
You can't have too much of any of these. I guarantee these will all be better than cash if the SHTF.
I was beating myself up for trading so much currency for surplus 5.45x39 last year. Then ATFE banned import. Now I wish I'd bought more.
The surplus 7N6 that was being imported had a mild steel core. ATFE changed its mind and decided it was armor piercing. I don't know if they were trying to be proactive in preventing the later 7N6 with hardened core from getting in or if they were just being assholes.
Anyway, how long before .gov decides M855 is armor piercing and bans the sale to civilians? Get it while it's "cheap" and available.
I hear you on that. I paid 55$ for a brick of .22 because I didn't know when I would see any again, and what I was able to find I was scared to shoot because I didn't know when id be able to replace it. Also, 2 years ago I paid 1200 for a gun that a friend of mine just picked up (new in box as well) for 800. Never again. I'll make sure I have what I need for some range trips , etc to last me a little bit well before the next presidential election.
As long as this current government continues to arm rebels and enemies of this nation all over the world with our best weapons and training then in the eyes of the people of this nation they have lost the moral wherewithal to demand that the people here disarm themselves of same. Not to mention the Constitutional protections in place to prevent it. If full auto weapons and training are good enough for 80IQ Syrian ISIS Jihadis (at our expense I might add) then they should be good enough for the average American to protect their families with and guarantee food on the table if need be. There really is no wiggle room in that argument.
"Guns are probably going somewhere else.."
Unpossible! Most.Transparent.Administration.Eva
I liked the range photo; I wonder if they're close enough to the targets yet ?
"Guns are probably going somewhere else.."
Yep, newest way to run guns after "Fast and Furious" got noticed.
Illinois farmers love them some Obama. Hope they get it spades.
Look these government agencies want you to think that question their motives, its all some NWO plan to take our freedoms. As that may have truth in the statement, I do not think this is the case. Ask yourself who is auditing these government agencies after weapons and ammo are purchased? Nobody...So this is the governments way of supplying the boogeyman which happens to be ISIS. Thats where a lot of these weapons go. Take some of that budget money from each department, buy a shitload of weapons,send some of it to ISIS and whoever else they want, then get congress to approve more funding for the rebels, and buy even more weapons while each politician getting a kickback of FRN's. Everybody in their little circle is happy. Just my 2 cents.
A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:
Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
LOL Rusty
Who gives a fuck? You WILL comply.
"When was the last time a USDA agent was killed in the line of duty?" http://blogs.usda.gov/2010/06/21/remembering-their-sacrifice-food-safety-employees-killed-in-the-line-of-duty/
Since the US Forest Service is part of USDA, any Forest Rangers killed might count, such as http://www.hcpress.com/crime-reports/us-forest-service-mourns-loss-of-nc...
Although rangers wouldn't be IG office 'special' agents. But it is very uncommon, not worthy of auto weapons in my opinion.
It appears that the business owner who shot killed those USDA agents was highly provoked. The factory had been producing for 89 years without a complaint. USDA comes in and begins harrassing him and mocking him. The dude said "screw it" and took a few of the jackboots out. Seems to be what a lot of posters here think should happen.
Seems like even the DC bureaucrats are figuring out what the end-game looks like. If I can lay my hands on a high-quality select-fire weapon and get someone else to pay for it, I'd do it too.
These may be for protection, but it is not to protect their inspectors from insane poultry. It is to protect themselves from the inevitable day when the eaters are in the streets.
Killed? I'd like to see a list of when a USDA agent fired his weapon not in training.
Late one Friday afternoon after all the markets had closed and people were on their way home to relax after a long grueling week, martial law was suddenly and apparently without any particular reason, declared across the Continental United States. Juan Valdez, in order to protect his bags of coffee, donned his USDA martial police uniform, ballistics outfit, helmet and goggles and took his AK-74 recently purchased refurbished, second hand from the Romanian warehouses, set out to ensure no unfriendly strangers came any closer than 3 miles to his distribution facility, set neatly on chic Rodeo Drive in LA. Seeing some innocent children playing hopscotch nearby, Juan, with his eyes bugging from his head, heat pounding rapidly and feeling empowered by his position as a reserve USDA officer being called to active duty, decided to show the neighbors a thing or two about serious fucking caffeine....
(wiping tear from eye)
that was beautiful, knucks....
(sniffle)
yeah......I think I'm gonna suck down a double shot and pull out my AR and load sum clips up in case Juan starts trying to take over my Non GMO garden..
Mags
Wait... just the continental United States?
God damn you knukles, Puerto Ricans are 'muricans, too... I think.
Hey Paveway....
An old bond trader joke....
Know what you never tell a Puerto Rican window washer?
That you want the windows spic and span
Is it to make us eat our Monsanto Spinach, and for Bush to eat his Broccoli?
Lord knows it's not to force our kids to gulp down all the HFCS (Hi-Fructose Corn Syrup) that's in our processed foods and drinks. The nation is addicted to this stuff.
The most sensible reason I have heard is that they want to give forest rangers more firepower. I was surprised to find that the National Forest Service is under the USDA. It seems that its easier for the cartels to run well guarded clandestine grow operations in our forests than it is to smuggle in their product. It makes sense that rangers out in the backwoods would want to be packing something with heavier firepower than pistols (and lighter to carry than full size rifles) if they run into trouble.
Astute observation, but there is another highly plausible, more insidious conclusion. The late Michael Ruppert pointed out in his Truth and Lies of 9/11 presentation that running guns and drugs via Forest Service planes was a favorite tactic of DoD/CIA, with all the documentation to prove it. Someone above mentioned these guns being for "something else," and given the M.O., it seems likely that this is yet another guns-for-drugz operation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU6U7H7Aws
This is the postulation to beat. +1
Or, and this is brilliant because it costs nothing, we could de-criminalize drugs (taking away the profit and risk-premium) and end the drug war. But then, what would we do with all of the chi-mos who are employed by .gov?
It would make more sense for .gov to stop freaking out about weed so that the cartels lose there reason for existing and no one has to go out into the forest to hide their growing operation.Then we don't need these dumbfucks to arm up.
Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?
Mad Cows.
I blame that Angry Orange.
The secret, the secret in the report is that they are involved with the SNAP proram. Now what if they are arming up because once the economy implodes more americans will be on the govt. dole and to make sure enough goes around they will need to come down hard on SNAP and other govt. program cheaters. This isn't looking good, all the govt. organizations are arming up.
This is called laundering powerful weapons through various government agencies to keep us from finding out. And it's OK, because it's OBAMA's people doing it now. Do you get the impression that the government not only hates us, but is really, really afraid of us all?
This is to enforce all the Kosher and rabbinical taxes on your food. This it is a joke? See all the U, K and Pareve plus other little symbols on the labels. It is a goyim tax.
those dairy farmers can get pretty violent.
A crack-down on farmers!
WTF!
"Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?"
Monsanto. Those are some serious guys.
Correct. USDA is Monsanto's regulatory enforcement department.
last year it was ammo for the SS offices - ObamaNation
“They have been very unhelpful in trying to find out any information about this,” said Rep. Stewart. “We couldn’t get answers — it doesn’t seem right to me.”
However, he also cautioned: “We have never argued that federal regulators don’t need to protect themselves.” But if USDA investigations were perceived to be potentially violent he suggested, “They should do what the rest of us do, call the local sheriff.”
This non-commital, namby-pamby, I-don't-really-plan-on-doing-anything-about-this kind of crap answer is why I will absolutely NOT be voting this election. Because if our highest level representatives can't or won't get answers on something this big, then there's no reason to play this game any more. At this stage of the game, anyone - ANYONE who is still voting R or D in the hope of getting solutions is a willing goddamned fool.
The Godfather's goons always need their tommy guns for "protection", see?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HNaY16rML._SX940_.jpg
Raw milk...right up there with the cartels, gangbangers, and what fictional boogeyman our country dreams up.
Once the Marxist take over completely they have to provide an incentive for the collective farmers to keep producing. Produce or die.
Ayn Rand was not a prophet - she was a historian.
No, she was a self-centered sociopath.
Commies aren't welcome here
You cannot possibly be so stupid as to think that just because that woman had bad things to say about Soviet Communism she should therefore be worshipped as a prophet. Can you?
Hmm, you seem to the only guy saying that.. Like most people she had her ups and definitely her downs. Overall her message resonates with us independent thinkers, not all of her actions, personal habits or personality, her message.
Okay, she was a self-centered sociopath who wrote shitty fiction.
There. Happy now?
Well since your so serious and angry about it, ahh, no not really. Go away, I'll be happy then..
There is nothing "independent" about your "thinking."
You need to learn a bit about just how horrible a person Ayn Rand was before spouting your mouth off about how her message, which consisted of denial of everything good in the world except one's immediate self-interest, resonates with you.
Ashkenazi conspirator who gave Jabotinski a lap dance at every opportunity. Ruled by a single exogenous orgasm, she proceeded to create a one Howard Roark, the embodiment of male actualization of female pleasure.
OK. WTF?
It is ridiculous to use the label "Marxist" to refer to what is really happening!
Farmers that sell raw milk are as bad as the Islamic jihadists. Imagine if those farmers were allowed to sell raw milk full of nutritious ingredients to just anyone. It is also absolutely necessary to make sure that all eggs in Hawaii and Alaska that come from the continental USA are stamped USA.
Now you know why the USDA needs sub machine guns.
USDA SWAT teams vs raw milk farmers.
Next time I need gas and am driving down the road, if I see an ISIS station next to a Chevron, you know which one I will patronize?
This is just the US government telling you your place in the world. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Now, just how can they protect you if they're not armed to the teeth? Useless eaters!
Someone must defend Monsanto's intellectual property. It is entirely the farmer's fault that Monsanto seed pollen landed on his property and cross pollenated.
Do you like Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and import insane amount of Kalishinikovs to distribute the population in case of war - and bring back the gold - is one thing.
This is understandable.
Meo navel ask these things:
1 - Who will use essar weapons?
2 - Where will be saved?
3 - In which situation could be used?
Please respond with name, address and quoting the relevant legislation.
hehe.
"Those fuckin' kids WILL eat Michelle's wallpaper paste school lunches now or we'll light their asses up."
I wonder when americans are gonna say enough is enough?
When will they put an end to the tyranny?
They won't. Too late. They are no longer in charge.
Not true. We have more firearms, ammo and folks than those cocksuckers do. We own full auto too. So what they have .40 S&W subguns. Level II vests stop that weak shit. Since those cocksuckers will be wearing vests and probably plates, aim for their waist and lower. Or just stone the cocksuckers with a face shot.
Thats true but this is the 21st century. Nobody is doing shit nor will they. The owners will be sure every American is content until they call time. Just the way it is. We are a nation of feces piled high as the eye can see.
Never. "If you don't do as we say, you won't get your Social Security/Medicare/VA benefits/{insert public benefit here}" As long as there's bread and circuses...
It is hard to take down a stampeding cow with one shot, you need to be sure.
Perhaps the alphabet federal agengies plan to attack/shoot each other. One could only hope!
The Pentagon its A-10 warthogs, which would make excellent close air support for USDA inspectors.
Necessary, because you never know if those farmers are keeping a tank battalion in the raw-milking barn.
Theyre basically building up a military capability against their own citizens.
Quite obviously, this isn't for the protection of citizens, but for the protection of the upper political class in opposition to the public.
This has been the pattern for some time now. Even the IRS is armed to the teeth.
Remember this when the financial markets can no longer be manipulated to hide the economic collapse, and the government status quo can no longer be protected.
Then, expect every American bureaucracy to descend upon its citizenry with force of arms.
They will never know what hit them.
"They will never know what hit them".
You got that right... bureaucracy conscripts have homes and family as well.
That's the money shot. "Honey, there's a family here in the house, they said you kicked in their door and shot their dog"
We need a domestic security force at least as powerful as the military, quoth Obamafuehrer, back when he was pretty popular.
We have a domestic security force that is ostensibly quite more powerful than the military. They just need a little work on logistics and such...
And a return to reasonably priced FMJ practice ammo.
Learn to reload.
The nobles are not happy about the peasants getting uppity.
They are buying these weapons so the can invade small coops and terrorize innocent people. Fuck the USDA. Co-op farmers are the ISIS of merika.
Yes. These thugs are real terrorists.
It's pretty obvious why their arming up. Some Plebs are getting a little tired of being looted, threatened and killed.
The first 13 words in the 2nd amendment explains what is necessary to thwart goons like this.
Listen rejected.
You fail to understand. The USSA does "NOT" have a constitution anymore. Get it through your head, man!
We have a constitution.
We just don't have anyone in position of responsibility or elected office who will follow it outside of about a half a dozen people.
There is a constitution but because of the bankruptcy, the offices of the government are in name only. It is a de facto government. They are there only to oversee the banktuptcy. This is all done under emergency war powers.
If anyone employed by the USDA is in fear of thier life, then they should call on the local Sheriff who has been elected by the locals. Feds have no right to be armed in any way, shape or form.
Listen Triple8,
When your American network CBS comes out with it's new show "USDA MIAMI" you're going to feel so stupid. These guys have real mortal threats coming at them. You'll see, just watch the TeeVee and enjoy.
there is drug-pushers, and there are gun-pushers. drugpushers are illegal, gunpushers are not. they keep on pushing untill everybod owns at least 10 machine guns and a tank.
There are .gov pushers, push until your host is beholden and addicted to its oppressor, which pray tell are you?
yes, dependence on the government is a side-effect of our government's drug called free money.
But still i appreciate the government taking away my garbage every week and maintaining a system with good roads, reasonably good schools, etc.
Needed to approve that feedlot beef, bitchez....
Of course, the elephant/jackass sock puppets in CONgress and what's left of "the states" never acknowledge that Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution enumerates NO FedGov power over agriculture, education, sick care/insurance, food, drugs, retirement plans and almost everything else they do, and that other sections and articles expressly prohibit them from seizing these powers from The People and the states.
The military firepower acquired by FedGov and generously donated to local police in every state is obviously part of their puppet masters' plan to enforce a totalitarian surveillance police state.
Interstate commerce, bitchez!
Wickard v. Filburn
Gonzales v. Raich
Two of the more batshit crazy SCOTUS decisions.
also, why does the government have any property at all?
Maybe they ordered them so the can tenderize meat.
Severe deception of the people by the 'establishment' is the long time status quo, see here:
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1223928
No progress evident in UNfooling the people, that I see.
I wonder if there is an intention/plan to tell the truth in one Big Bang ...?
Any Idea where theSe $700 toIlet Seats will be deployed?
$700 toilet seats are soooooooo 1970's.
Today they'd be at least $7000.