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Hong Kong's Luxury Shopping Street Right Now
The protests in Hong Kong continue to spread. The following images from Causeway Bay - one of HK's most affluent neighborhoods with many higher-end stores - show calm and well-organized protesters (carrying slogans such as "Democracy is now here", "Occupy Hong Kong", and "We Are Not Enemies") have blocked a long section of a major thoroughfare called Hennesy Road (and have created first aid posts to attend to any injured). Locals report virtually no police presence for now, but that is likely to change as night turns to early morning.
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Shouldn't that "DEMOCRACY IS NOW HERE" read "DEMOCRACY IS NOWHERE" ?
A space in the wrong place?
Honestly Causeway Bay always looks this packed....except this time instead of holding shopping bags, they are holding flags and signs.
as long as the slaves are contained within borderers defined by the state, there is no problem for the state.
beijing hasn't perfected the false choice two party system like the usa has..yet.
Listen Chan.
"THE PROBLEM IS": Chinese. Get rid of all, NOW!
The world needs more Americans FFS.
Comforting to see so many zombies clinging to their "smartphones."
pods
If they cut off cell phone / data service in HK, it would be the zombie apocalypse... Asians are even more addicted to the damn things than westerners...
Better if they kept service on during the iphone zombie apocalypse. All you have to do is wait until night time, they light up!
You won't even need a starlight scope.
pods
Bear with me here ... this is going to look like conspiracy central:
China and Russia are working together to un-throne the dollar as the world reserve currency, and put an end to the petro-dollar. And Russia and China are desperately trading US dollars and US Treasury notes for gold bullion, and thus inflating the dollar even more by dumping it.
Russia was attacked by having the CIA provoke anti-Russian rioting in Kiev, leading to the overthrow of the pro-Russia government there.
I am fairly certain the Obama administration is playing the same game in Hong Kong, and it is no coincidence that the protesters are getting Occutard-style advice. Like protesting with their hands in the air ... a scene straight out of Ferguson.
The current admin tried the same crap in the US, and it didn't work very well. It did work in Kiev, but I think a bunch of patsies in HK are going to get stomped.
Well they made it easy for the Chinese, by using the OCCUPY slogan. The Chinese govt now just has to deal with them the way the USA dealt with the Occupy movement step by step.
Those packed streets are a great place to spary an aerosolized version of the Norwalk virus. Would clear the streets in no time. But I wouldnt want to be the one cleaning the streets lol.
I got that damned Norovirus a few years ago.
Spewed from both ends for a couple of days. Nasty stuff.
Doesn't the Shanghai gold ex coincidentally open today?
A coincidence which would make Trotsky proud!
I said it yesterday and I'll say it again- CIA
this doens't look like conspiracy central .
this is precisely what is happening. you nailed it. the issue is, however, there's always lots of young pissed off poor folks. esepecially in china. and in hongkong.
so----the conspiracy can exist along side the reality without having to trump it. this isn't a conspiracy theory regarding causation---such as "who did it". there is no "it" and there is only "what influences are at work"
yes, the american state department is at work pretty much all over the place. in hong kong. so are the british!.
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Yep the western imperialists trying to provoke a response from China. China has been too cozy with Russia. Of course it will backfire and could have huge ramifications whenit does. But we have children masquerading as statesmen now. The CIA has always been a disaster, a long history of failures. I predict one more. And yes, the Brits need to protect London banksters. The fuckers use youth to do their bidding. If a teaparty group rallies here, they are extremists. Anywhere else we support their quest for freedom. The hypocrisy stench is disgusting
Dont insult the students with your stupid conspiratory theory. You sound just like the ccp. May be you are just another paid thug.
Why cut service off? Each protester is carrying a mobile government listening post. All of their communications are being monitored as well. And I'm sure the PRC government has set up special cellphone towers to track each of them.
Hell, they might as well all be wearing big orange wildlife tracking collars.
<< Everyone showing up with protest signs
<< Everyone staying home on general boycott
What would be scarier to TPTB?
OCCUPY YOURSELF
um. by everyone i'm thinking you are including the 20% of people who would show up to do your job at half price?
there is a reason sit-in's occur on the premises of property that is used for production/productivity.
people sit on their ass at home all the time. they dont' call that 'boycott'. you tard.
silly plebes.
So, "mob rule" is here, interesting. I guess it all depends on who the mob is...
How's your mandarin?
Don't the Chinese have as much right to cast a "vote" for two or more "different" political parties pretending to stand for different things, dividing the electorate on largely social wedge issues (meant to stir emotions to the maximum, yet keeping attention away from deep impact legislation), yet with each and every "different" political party owned by the very same puppet masters, just like us Americans do in the good ole' USSA?
Exactly, thanks for helping.
Of course this is Hong Kong, not mainland China, big difference. But I digress, the British boot is gone, say hello to the Chinese boot. I have one employee from Hong Kong, great person, hard worker.
Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Po
There ya go... My Madarin is fine..
Am I Wong to tink dis sum ting fo weal yaa ya yaa ya. Sorry I was at an Asian kareoke joint the other night.
actually, sum ting wong is cantonese.
wi tu po I have no idea...
China My China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76qPMv1tCfI
"Don't the Chinese have as much right to cast a "vote" for two or more "different" political parties pretending to stand for different things, dividing the electorate on largely social wedge issues (meant to stir emotions to the maximum, yet keeping attention away from deep impact legislation), yet with each and every "different" political party owned by the very same puppet masters, just like us Americans do in the good ole' USSA?"
Unlike in the USSA, the ChiComs don't have to play games dividing the electorate based on the race issue, the feminist issue, the gay rights/marriage issue, the gun rights issue, etc. There is no red/blue team to choose from. Nomination of candidates for direct elections are made by the Communist Party of China. Take it or else.
Those silly Hong Kongites. They still think that Democracy means you have control over who runs your country. Silly Wabbits.
Does anyone here knows of any instance where MEANINGFUL change was achieved without blood loss throughout the whole history?
Yes, I'm pessimistic but I wold give everything to be proven wrong!
The right people are never the ones that get killed that's why things always stay the same now matter what they call the system at the time.
Maybe Iceland.
TOO DAMN COLD TO PROTEST.
The Soviet Union collapsed essentially without a shot fired, and it did so because the reality of "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us" finally set in. And while Scotland voted not to secede, it took a massive effort by the central government to stem the tide, the question being how long it will be before the Scots have finally had enough.
Meanwhile, the mere fact of a peaceful vote on self-determination has redoubled efforts elsewhere, including in the Lone Star state:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102021344
It's only a matter of time, in other words, before the American Union follows its Soviet predecessor into the dustbin of history. There will no doubt be a change-the-subject war in the Middle East and possibly even martial law here at home, but as the center simply cannot hold, my guess is that the United States of America will become the Untied States of America before the decade is out.
I would say you are half right here. There were just a few killed/wounded in 1991.
But there were also a few more in the east europe in 1989 without wich the coup (and the subsequent dissolution of USSR) woudn't have happened.
The greatest modern example of a bloodless revolution I can find is the fall of East Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_Revolution
In the end, even the all-powerful Stasi were unable to stop what was happening.
Looks like we need to send in U.S. troops to defend Democracy and change hearts and minds.
What? China makes iPhones and 90% of the stuff in Walmart? Nevermind!
Makes you wonder if the US has any of their hand in this.....but yet again, China and the US Corporate State are so intertwined when it comes to business, that the "elites" might not be as jazzed up as this "protest", in the end, costs them money.
The people in the US are so morally compromised that they would never do something like this en masse.
If aliens were to abduct one of those Hong Kong protestors they would naturally assume the hand held device each human is staring at is a part of the organic organism.
<I bet nobody would drop their phone while being abducted.>
How else would they be able to post selfies with aliens on FB?
Doi.
I think aliens would assume the polymer-metallic device is a highly advanced lifeform which has enslaved the blood-and-guts object for transportation, entertainment, and personal care.
ET called home and got a busy signal.
WE ARE THE FUCKING ALIENS
To a street in US any day now. Unless the actually have succeeded in making most US citizens addicts of booze marijuana and credit.......
nothing in USA because USA willnt pay for revolution in USA soil.
They will billy club and rubber bullet the shit out of any protest like this.
That's what makes the climate change protest in NY so shady. The NYPD really didn't bust that up like Occupy....but that's because this "protest" was organized by Wall St to get our taxes raised in the spirit of "evironmentalism"
One of the methods to fight protests is to promote pressure relief valves like Booze and MaryJane for the serfs.
'Occupy hong kong'?..the friggin hippies made it there now?..
Good. Keep em.
The frigging hippies in the whitehouse organized this protest.
This false-flag confrontation is probably the work of Mossad/CIA.
There are no coincidences.
Is anyone on this planet capable of acting without the influence of manipulation, including yourself?
Gotta love buying opportunities created by ASTROTURF! No seriously, I think that a riot on a college campus is probably worse than these "protests".
The only issue in our way are these bailed out institutions called "bank holding companies" (Hong Kong Dollar is backed by the US Federal Reserve)
Just the CIA. Mossad is on the outs with Princess Obama.
Is she a princess or a prince? I can't tell
<I bet nobody would drop their phone while being abducted.>
Exactly and that's precisely why you'll never ever see a "tweet" from inside an alien spaceship from an "abductee".
Democracy was considered so bad and obscene that the word itself DID Not appear even once in all founding documents of the USA. Crack them down and roll them over with your Fascist tanks in the name and glory of profit and GDP.
Hmmm, not very smart to occupy one of the most affluent parts of Hong Kong if you ask me, because The Powers That Be will now be extra motivated to wipe the place clean again.
That is the point. By imposingits will on the Hong Kong people, the CCP is destroying what make Hong Kong competitive. Might as well the HongKongers do it themselves.
Taping a piece of paper on your back? Are you kidding? What kind of Chuck E Cheese protest is this? Where are the poster boards and wooden signs? Do they not have Kinkos in HK?
Exactly, what kind of Chuck E Cheese protest is this? Where are the looters, burn stores and broken windows? These people have a lot to learn from the protesters in Ferguson. Maybe Obama and Sharpton should go over there to teach them a few lesoons.
A protest of the general population will never do. There needs to be an interest group, some declared oppressed minority that can claim wrongful treatment, or at least insult that could justify wanton destruction, theft and maybe murder. Just regular people out proclaiming their rights is just lame, I mean what movie star or public persona is going to stand for them? They have as much chance of gaining media support as white men in America. Ain't going to happen.
Exactly, you cannot protest about democracy or racism without walking out of stores with TVs and Booze in your hands.
How else will they know you mean business?
Does anyone know if an industrial respirator for keeping out organic vapor and acid gas works against tear gas ? Does it have activated carbon in it ? I asked the guys at home depot where they sell this stuff but they were at a loss.
Whether it's Ferguson or Hong Kong you see fields of gormless youth twiddling their thumbs on some goony tracking device. That's the supreme unifier: the basic idiocy of the techno-bot. Couldn't describe how their pocket tech works yet place their entire lives in it.
The police had confisticated their sound system . Their cell phone is the only means they can communicate with each other. The protest has now splitted into several groups occupying both Kowloon and Hong Kong.
At least some Ferguson demonstrators show their support by wearing signs that said " Stay Strong Hong Kong". I am quite amazed so many ZHers made smart ass comments about a democratic movement. Uprising in the US against our Dear Leader who screwed our constitution ? I just dont see it in our future. We have become comfortably numb.
In a protest, if you are waiting for instruction to be disseminated or uploaded you're no better than the authorities you hate. A protest is a roiling boil of shoulder contact, marching toward one goal and to one drum: footsteps. Smash your phone and go with the crowd.
When the police was moving in, a girl student sent out message alerting people who were blocked from emtering the protest site. The people then turned around and surrounded the police that are moving in towards the isolated protestors.
No disrespect, but across Egypt, Turkey and even in torn Donetsk, authorities used sniffers to see this level of organization in real-time, as an offense of organized kettling/aggression. People's lives were turned up wholesale in the aftermath, including dozens of innocents from every "organizer's" contact list. Please be careful with this tech that nobody seems to understand.
ZHers MAKE SMART-ASS COMMENTS AND TALK BIG ABOUT "FALSE FLAGS" AND EVEN BIGGER ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL WEAPONS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY DO.
TALK
Any entity with more than a surface rat will be devoured.
Wait a minute. This is earth.
Hong Kong is affluent. Do these protestors strike you as minimally educated working-class factory laborer proletariat? Don't think so. Hong Kong is in a similar position as Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, S Korea, and soon China. The fun times of unbelievably rapid industrialization and meteoric rises in living standards, education, wages, prosperity, health, life expectancy, etc. etc. etc. are over. You can't play catch-up forever.
If these people think something like pretend democracy (the kind that requires no more effort or involvement than casting a ballot perhaps twice per decade, and in return offers no more than endless empty promises and bankrupt rhetoric) can counteract the effects of their economic and demographic predicaments they are both ignorant and delusional.
But all the democracy and liberalization in the universe still won't make the next century as stupendously awesome as the last one, won't open up for them the opportunities of their parents.
PS: For those who don't get it, no run-of-the-mill political "solution" would or will do the trick. As LawsOfPhysics might say, what does Hong Kong (Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, S Korea) actually produce? Which resources do they actually control? What is there economic capacity when the paper game breaks? Anyone who says that a demographic decline is a curse clearly must be living in a world with a very different set of thermodynamic laws.
What does Hong Kong actually produce ? Why , Hong Kongers are the brain behind everything they produce across the border in Canton province - the most affluent province in China. What about innovation. Just watch, one of them is a hot candidate for winning the nobel price in Physic this year.
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thing is you are looking at secondary school children protesting for the sakes of protesting. Its pathetic!
Maybe they should go to Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya etc and see how the Western DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM have serve them. They have nothing but chaos, strife, war, bloodshed and total anarchy. Give a another week with this charade and companies will starting moving out and the students parents will whip their arses as they will be unemployed, unable to service their debt and no school. WISH GRANTED in the name of those two pathetic and misleading words.
All I can say is being NAIVE will have its price!
Plus, not one country in the world has a DEMOCRACY. US/UK and other voting nations only run a POLYARCHY! Man people are NAIVE!
hey you clueless nitwit, people of Iraq, Egypt, Ukraine, Libya, Syria are using their blood for those 2 words and the only they get are chaos, chaos and more chaos. Any of these immature little people seeing a first sigh of death will flee like a pack of wolves. Most of them are there for the hell of it as they and dun give 2 shits about anything.
Drone footage, please; or it never happened.
Just in image. Now tell me the crowd is thin.
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/news/20140929/52959556
It looks just like another "color revolution" and seemingly who is behind it.
yawn... overly vocal minority of the population.
real facts about hong kong:
Basically what happened was back during the boom years, they were the backdoor to china. they quickly discovered they could setup their factories on the mainland, pay basically nothing and sell everywhere. This was their golden era. A small population that was king shit in the mainland. Piss away money like it was nothing, buy their nice homes and whatnot, all the while keeping that fence high and lording over the mainland... where they could go, but mainlanders couldn't come in. They only really had to deal with shenzhen and PRD, and never had to bother with mandarin.
Well, China cut out the middleman and doesn't really need that backdoor anymore. China's gotten stupidly rich, while the tycoons in hong kong control basically everything in hong kong. Now Hong Kong is in a position where they are basically just a joke. Chinese go there to buy shit, but hongkies don't like that idea. Primarily they don't like the notion that they are no longer king shit and mainlanders cna come down and lord over them as they once did. They don't like the idea that now it's them who must cater... which is rather funny seeing as they are a service-based economy now. Anyone in their right mind would just cater to it and get rich... but as I said, colonial mindset and racist as fuck.
The main actors here are the tycoons who will never be in an even more powerful position, but want that too as their holdings are starting to have run the course and the beijing-picked government isn't stupid enough to let them fuck around anymore. But, they control the local media, so let's rile up the futureless youth into supporting stupid shit. Pivot to Asia is also playing a role, as resources have been allocated to pushing for instability.
The reality of the situation is that Hong Kong is no longer a backdoor, it's not really even all that important and grows less important every day. The locals hate the notion of having to compete with "outsiders" who are better than them, hate the idea that social benefits might end up going to those who actually foot the bill for them, and are stuck in a false-mentality that they are not 100% reliant on the mainland for everything.
Sorry hongkies, but your time in the sun is over, you're just another city in China now. No "democracy" was ever promised, much less direct votes. There was never a timeframe agreed to by Beijing either. If it wasn't for mainlanders flooding in to buy crap and spend their hard earned cash, hong kong would have died a long long long time ago.
Correct!
But there is one covert, HK still remains freeport model they wish to duplicate. Won't be long though before they have it all in place.
These hongkie have had it too good for too long. But mind you most of the dumb arses on the street are just kids who are clueless!
What garbage.
Just ask why do the Chinese parents send their kids over to Hong Kong to go to school. Tens of thousands of them crossingthe border everyday to go to school. They want to be educated to be like the Hong Kongers. Polite and considerate. Hong Kong people do not want mainlander to come to Hong Kong to buy "craps". Why dont you mainlanders buy craps in the mainland ? Oh, I know, the craps in mainland China are CRAPs. Baby formula, food, toilet paper anything the mainlanders bought it all up. Hong Kong couldnt care less for it contriubute to about 3% of the Hong Kong economy but 90% of the congestion. Hong Konger do not like to see loud mouthed rude no mannar mainlander littered their city , shit in public , get in front of others while everyone else is queuing up.
Oh no, people are coming and buying things, the shock and utter horror... it's all imports to HK anyways (as HK doesn't make anything), so... import more and see more profit? Crazy idea, I know.
Here's another fact, hongkies are a complete and total joke, you don't have manners either, not by any means polite nor considerate, so get that notion out of your tiny deluded heads. Chinese parents send their kids to HK schools because they CAN. They go to private schools and oops, private schools are for-profit and there is less competition, as hongkies are generally not all that impressive.
Over 80% of your water: from mainland
Over half your electricity: from mainland
Over 90% of your food: from mainland
Over half of your stock market cap is comprised of mainland companies
The mainland is rather liberal in allowing HK companies direct access to the economy, which keeps HK viable
Your export sector is entirely reliant on the mainland
Nearly half of all investment in HK comes from the mainland.
So sure, let's just pretend that HK is viable without the mainland. HK is a joke and living on borrowed time that is running out.
Service sector is over 90% of the economy, so... it looks like your job is service. The customer is always right, and your customer nowadays is the mainland. Adapt or die, your choice really.
And just how is that different than Manhattan?
Huge ethical difference between HK and Mainland Chinese business partners. But you wouldn't understand that.
LAOMEI; it is clear from your posts over the years that you are experienced in the region. I don't do business in HKG but I'm interested in your perspective here. it sounds like you have an axe to grind vs. HK.
HK's attitude towards the mainlanders is still there, no doubt. That's no big deal. Do you consider that racist or just attitude; like say SF attitude vis-a-vis LA? You got me there. How about the PRC's racism? I think racism, as I define it, is a saving grace. It saves countries from being dragged by the bullshit of enforced watering-down of blood lines and cultures. Let's save that for another semantic exercise, however.
Have you crossed from HKG into Shenzhen and seen the dogmeat on sale on the streets and the crumbling 'new' structures in SZH? It's a fairly abrupt change. HKG, because of it's colonial hangover, has its shit together imho compared to SZH and with it MUCH if not MOST of the PRC.
The PRC is a blundering fascist behemoth hiding behind an electronic smiley face. Where would you rather live, if you had to choose? And think air and water quality controls along with that.
"Do you consider that racist or just attitude; like say SF attitude vis-a-vis LA?"
Jesus K-riced are you fucking nuts? or just unbelievably stupid?
Never really all that impressed by HK in any way. Never had an issue with racism in China, there's some, sure, but it's a different flavor. hongkie racism is an entirely different level. it's a place to visit for a few days, but once that's done, there's basically nothing to do apart from buy shit and piss away money.
If you are white in HK, it's pretty easy, you can shit on the subway and the monkeys will worship it.
If you are SEA in HK, you are subhuman
If you are a mainlander in HK, there is spite because you obviously "don't know your place"
hongky trash is ignored, but mainlanders are criticized and attacked for basically nothing.
I chose to live in the PRC, no real issues here, some bullshit, but not much compared to most places in the world. It's very liveable in most regards. HK is a hellhole of fake whiny faggots full of nothing but self-pity and angst.
I appreciate your perspective. Thanks for the response. I have been to the mainland and to HKG not a lot, about a dozen times each in the last decade; and treated very well by the people both places. It's the US that is facing the shitstorm.
No racism in China as long as you're Chinese you dolt!
Every white person is gweilo.
Walkure, racism is just a charged word. Birds of a feather flock together. And 95% of the time they are right about white people. I am well- mannered, well-dressed and speak some of their language. I walk in anywhere and am treated with respect. I don't know what Gweilo issues you are dealing with over there. Maybe some of the old-timers.
Hong Kong and Kowloon are not well-fitted for street action ... too many people and that city needs to keep moving so they can't just shut thoroughfares or the MTR down. Beijing can't get heavy-handed imho. And I wouldn't write those skinny kids down as cowards just yet ... they ALL work their asses off, there is no safety net/EBT trough. I doubt they are as intimidated or blase as some here seem to believe they are.
I don't rate them. They are being used by the banking cartel for their purposes and most of them dun even know the world does not have DEMOCRACY only POLYARCHY's. Dumb and dumber!
"POLYARCHY's"
That's a new one - a neologism perhaps, even.
Oligarchy?
No, perhaps you meant to say the world is suffering from polyarthritis or something?
beijing doesn't need to be heavy handed at all.
shut off the power and water and slap a 20% tariff on hong kong. hong kong dies overnight.
Go suck some more CPC cock.
Beijing needs Hong Kong, pure and simple. They will figure out a way to make it work; and still save face.
It honestly really doesn't. It's part of China and that's just end of story, isn't going to be changing anytime soon either. Slap some penalties on HK and divert sectors to Shanghai, and that's the end of Hong Kong overnight. China could simply slap some restrictions on HK spending, and that would also be the end of HK overnight.
You know something. Hong Kong does not want to buy that much water but the power that be force it on them for profit. So the fresh water just flow into the sea after Hogn Kong bought them.
Power? Hong Kong gernate its own and it will not be cut off because it is the most expensive power in the world.
Who has more to lose if Hong Kong dies.
Hong Kong dies if the CCP has its way. Hong Konger are trying to save their home from the morons in the North. Why do Northern people have to fuck with Southern people ?
I'm sure the HK police will have second thoughts before beating up their neighbor's child. This is not the Mainland.
no, they don't need to. A week of this and companies will start moving out and their parents will be sacked. With no $$$$ coming home, the parents will do the beating! Naive and moronic!
The bigger the better.
soros is still alive can you believe it.
all the the childrens blood injections he gets
it really does keep you young.
that and drinking down kosher freedom cum cocktails.
And its already begun.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-29/hong-kong-risks-losing-its-role...
These poor bastards dun even know they are burning their own home. HOW DUMB CAN YOU GET!
: These poor bastards dun even know they are burning their own home. "
Tell that to your ccp master. That is exactly what they are doing and I am not saying just to get back at you. I am shock at the stupidity the CCP shown in handling this Hong Kong situation from the get go. It is a weakness that will not go unnoticed by China's adversaries.
Is WB still in HK? Betcha he's busy and taking pictures.
Kids rarely get it
How long until they realize Democracy is just another form of Slavery?
Most will never get it, even at 30+
Funny how they all write English.
Where's Noodleman when you need her?