No, America Isn't Communist; It's Only 70% Communist

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

“The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workers of the world, unite!”

Most people remember Karl Marx’s most potent points and phrases, and the mountain of corpses his disciples left behind, especially in the 20th century.

However, most forget or don’t even know the specific policies that Marx advocated.

Within his 1848 Communist Manifesto, Marx outlined a list of ten short-term demands. These, he thought, would be the precursor to the ideal stateless, classless communist society.

Ironically in today’s world, Marx’s demands look pretty much mainstream.

That is because nearly every single item on the list has been implemented to varying degrees in the United States.

Think that couldn’t be possible in the Land of the Free? Just take a look.

1. Topping Marx’s list is the abolition of private property.

True, private property exists, but only until the state wants to take it. With its powers of eminent domain, the government can and does confiscate people’s property when it wants for public use.

Your property isn’t unconditionally yours. Just think of property taxes, for example.

If it’s actually YOUR private property, then why would you need to pay tax on it? And why do they have the authority to take it from you if you don’t pay?

2. Likewise, while we haven’t seen the complete abolition of inheritance (another Marx demand), the government can take up to 40% of your estate when you die.

So ultimately your estate is not your own. You don’t get to control what happens to your wealth and possessions when you die. It’s just a matter of proportion.

3. and 4. Marx also demanded the centralization of transportation and communication. Check, and check.

Try broadcasting over the airwaves in the Land of the Free without a license and special permission.

Practically the entire electromagnetic spectrum is tightly controlled by the state, centralized by a handful of government agencies.

Same with the network of roads and highways. Because, after all, without government, who would build the roads…

5. Another point of Marx is state-guided agricultural production and combination of agriculture and manufacturing.

And the Land of the Free does not disappoint. Though its activities may not be as prominent in the news, the US Department of Agriculture is easily one of the busiest government departments.

With a budget of $146 billion a year, and much more for subsidies, USDA tirelessly works to dictate every major and miniscule activity in the sector.

6. Next on the list, is equal liability of all to labor. If you have at any point wondered, as I have, why politicians are always pushing jobs for the sake of jobs, rather than value and wealth creation—now you know why.

Between minimum wage laws and the constant stream of legislation that promises jobs for all, it is clear that politicians have wholly internalized this Marxian ideal.

Now, you might think that this is just a fluke, just a coincidence that some US policies resemble what’s on Marx’s list of demands.

But then you see these demands, which have not only been fully implemented in the US already, but are thoroughly entrenched in the national psyche:

7. First, there’s free education for all children, to enable the uniformity of thought. Check.

8. Then there’s a heavy progressive income tax. Yep, I’m pretty sure you’re familiar with this one, which has actually become so mainstream, that to have any system other than this would be considered revolutionary. Check.

9. Third, is the confiscation of the property of emigrants (expatriates) and rebels.

Between the IRS bullying of political opposition groups and the imposition of exit taxes for those that renounce their citizenship, the United States is firmly set up to discourage dissent and escape. Check.

10. And last but not least, the centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank. Check.

Remember, Karl Marx thought central banking was a great idea—the same guy who thought that individual success and private property were evil.

Think about that the next time the Federal Reserve comes up with a plan to help businesses and fix the economy.

So now you know, America isn’t communist. It’s only about 70% communist. No reason to worry.

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SAT 800's picture

Oh, that's just so special. I'm sure it'll all work out just peachy.

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

I still say fascism is winning the day. Look at obamacare. Govt regulated bullshit that requires you to buy a product from a lobby that is nice and cozy with the govt. Look up the definition of fascism, or 'national socialism' and we are living it.

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Carl.

America is no longer entrepreneurial and capitalist. The "CHINESE" people are more capitalist than fucking Americans. It's a disgrace. Now they all want disability checks and oBarrycare.

surf0766's picture

Piss off and send all the money back we gave you then

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen 0766.

You're an Indian giver?

sleigher's picture

If you're from Bangalore than apparently so.  Nevermind the original meaning of indian giving.

X.inf.capt's picture

really tough crowd tonight...

maybe tyler can find a 1-800 # so the fight club can get anger management help...

or at least start handing out snickers bars...  

jeff montanye's picture

re: govt confiscation of private property, it doesn't get worse than the smash and grab of the drug and money laundering laws where cash is always up for grabs and the victim has to prove her innocence.

also i'm not so sure the centralization of communication is as effectively centralized as formerly.  i don't think i (and other billions) could instantly transmit my opinions world wide for free a few years back.  letters to the editor, bitchez.

Four chan's picture

the communist manifesto's 10 planks, are not like our constitution, guaranteeing

individual rights over government, they are the ten elements needed to destroy

a capitalist system outlined by marx's forerunner friedrich engels and as you can see,

we are all now communists and the republic is dead, comrades.

The Doofus's picture

Are you people for real?  I eat pretty damn well for a communist.  Why does American capitalism have to be dog eat dog?  Can't we have a system more like Germany.  Or are they commies, too?

Esculent 69's picture

"Why does american capitalism have to be dog eat dog?"

First off american capitalism is a repetitive statement.  Secondly its only dog eat dog for those who don't want to work as hard as others but want the same benefits. Just like the socialistic bourgeoisie.  

Its competition like anything else. if you ran, name your sports team/league, the way the communists would like to and it would be unbearable to watch.  there would be no competition for anyone to work any harder then the other players.  if everyone had the same salary as the next guy they who the fuck would play center?  who would play quarterback/ running back/ linebacker/ wide receiver when your getting your body brutalized for the same amount as the second string?

Oh thats right there is no second string cuz thats not fair, that's not equal.  everyone gets a chance to play.  there is no individuals allowed. nope not allowed to run faster than the slowest player of the opposition team cuz that would hurt their feelings for getting scored upon. 

The bookies alone wouldn't allow that to happen in this country. 

To put it plainly, there's a reason the plumber makes good money.  Some jobs pay more than the others.

TruthInSunshine's picture

Orwell's fiction in 1984 and Ray Bradbury's fiction in Fahrenheit 451 grow more closely to our dystopian reality with each passing day.

It's really incredible and sickening to behold.

Police State USA

PT's picture

Communists?  And you guys fall for it?  COMMUNISM IS THE PROPAGANDA.  FASCISM IS THE TRUTH.
For all the fuckwits out there who are so quick to point out the difference between, pure capitalism and crony capitalism, where are all the people bleating about the difference between pure communism and crony communism???

Hmmmm.  A bunch of "animals" work for a "farmer".  In return they get the bare minimum of the fruits of their labour as the rest is exported away from the "farm" and traded for profit.  Where have I seen that recently?

I saw Animal Farm.  We all understand the nature of its "more equal" message.  But don't forget that the evil farmer traded with other people.  The evil farmer was a Capitalist.  When the pigs took over, their undoing was that they became Capitalists.  There were two messages from Animal Farm:

1.  Don't be a Communist
2.  Don't work for a Capitalist!!!

Be a Farmer.  You know it makes sense.

luckylongshot's picture

Communism is dead and buried. It was tried, it failed. So that means this article is about propaganda rather than reality. Question 1...who benefits from this?...Capitalists and noone else....Question 2 What is their agenda?....Best bet is that this is an attempt to divert attention away from the elite who have taken over the US and are busily gutting the middle class by waving the dead communist bogeyman in their faces. Question 3 Why are they doing this? Best bet is that as their greed and dishonesty is becoming more obvious they are concwerned they will be exposed and so have started funding bs to try to keep hidden. 

Esculent 69's picture

communism has not failed. it has adapted to fit the playing field. regulation and taxation are far more effective at controlling industries than actually running them.  plus the benefit of labor unions who act as your army to protest whatever the hell they want. 

Communism is a method for agitattion and gaining control.  it tries to break down the moral fabric of societies as to create offspring of unbalanced kids who come from broken families until the family unit is destroyed.  then you have a public that is easily manipulated by their emotions which is what the 10 tenents are supposed to do.  they invoke an emotional reaction rather than critically thinking about eternal truths from the past.  

luckylongshot's picture

What you are describing is not communism. The core issue behind this article is the centralisation of power, which when it occurs according to James Madison is Tyranny. Communism failed as centralising power led to totalitarianism, the same is occurring in the US today and it is likely to result in failure as well. One of the strategies the elite use to divert people away from looking at what is happening with power is talking about isms...which is all this article does. So even debating which ism exists is a sign one has been diverted.

BigJim's picture

Communism and fascism are kissing cousins.

In communism, state bureaucrats run everything directly.

In fascism, state bureaucrats run everything indirectly.

PT's picture

In communism, everything is run directly by the commune.  It probably works for small tribes, if you have the right people.  Any larger and "representatives" magically appear and the authority of the commune gets to commune with the floor at the back of the woodshed.  And after that, your comment stands unassailed.

PT's picture

Under Real-world Practical Communism, the Fascists are still pretending they are Communists.

And under Real-World Practical Capitalism, the Fascists are still pretending they are Capitalists.

sylviasays's picture

"Be a Farmer. You know it makes sense."

From Chapter 10 of Animal Farm:

  • Somehow it seemed as though the farm had grown richer without making the animals themselves any richer — except, of course, for the pigs and the dogs.
  • though Napoleon and the pigs may not "own" the means to production in the technical sense of possessing a legal piece of paper that says they do … the pigs behave as if they own the farm and have a canine police force to back up their claim.
  • Four legs good, two legs better!
  • The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
PT's picture

My comment reminded me of a real country.  Your comment reminds me of another real country.

SumTing Wong's picture

The thing is that until 1848 most places had a flat tax, leftover from the church's tithe. Shortly thereafter every "capitalist" country thought it would be great to squeeze the rich with a progressive tax. Then in 1994 Mart Laar started the "Flat Tax Revolution" in Estonia and now most of the formerly Communist bloc countries have a flat tax. Russia, Lithuania, Albania, Romania, Hungary, Serbia....there are about 25-30 of them formerly Communist areas of Eastern Europe or Asia. The rest of the flat tax countries in the world are either small or protectorates of England. 

RaceToTheBottom's picture

I don't think WS will become anything other than a non functioning version of Communism, with WS more equal than the others.

Stop the Welfare of WS>>>>

X.inf.capt's picture


fire up the presses, janet...


RafterManFMJ's picture

Think you're going to vote your way out?

"NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Voters in North Dakota, where the economy is swelling with money from the oil boom, have voted against abolishing property taxes in the state.

More than 76% voted "no" in Tuesday's initiative to get rid of the property tax, according to returns from the North Dakota Secretary of State."

The only way forward is through the Fire.

PrecipiceWatching's picture

Not ALL Americans, you racist, broadbrush POS.

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Watching.

You're in a sinking ship, too bad. Sorry for you.

Don't drone "ME" bro! OK?

I didn't sink your ship. Your USSA gov hired the lowest bidder to build it because Wall St. mandated it(bond holders and such)

messymerry's picture

Whatever.  More wodka for all my comerades here in the Gulag Amerikano.

markpower49's picture

Every decent white man should have seething resentment towards government and mainstream society. Burn it all to the ground.

McMolotov's picture

I'm an indecent white man, and even I resent the government and mainstream society.

X.inf.capt's picture

whatever its become..

it isnt a republic

Surging Chaos's picture

I'd say what we have is a deadly mixture of both communism and fascism.

It still falls under the same umbrella though: authoritarian.

Kinskian's picture

Simon should read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, then do another article. 

sleigher's picture

read it red arrow voters, or is it red shield?

nmewn's picture

Read what? Its a proven hoax.

Kinskian's picture

I assure you it does exist. I read the version published by Henry Ford. You can question its origin, but that doesn't qualify it as a "hoax".  

To quote Elie Wiesel on the Holocaust literature...."some stories are true that never happened".

nmewn's picture

It was clearly written in the early 20th century and plagarizes from a variety of sources in order to place the reader back another hundred years at some fictional meeting.

Now I realize jooo bashing is some sort of weird sport and or pastime that europeans have engaged in for many centuries but the real hoax is a nation-state ordering people of all nationalities and ethnicities to strip down on a train ramp and be driven like cattle to the "showers" to be executed.

Thats very much real dude, the Nazis were a little more meticulous in keeping real time records than Stalin was but the fact that millions of people just disappeared didn't go unnoticed to the outside world.

sleigher's picture

the showers...   but Auschwitz had a swimming pool.

nmewn's picture

Some had neither.

Majdanek the concentration camp in Lublin Poland, note the "Prussian Blue" stains on the walls...

...thats residue of Zyklon B.

There is something everyone should understand about this and why I go against the grain around here confronting the anti-jooo BS even though I'm not Jewish. This particular type of evil may start with Jews or blacks or Slavs or muslims etc. but eventually, given time, they always run out of victims and a new group will be picked out.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Martin Niemöller

And never be confused by my hatred for communists which is as venomous as my hatred of nazis. I hate them both but I could never contenance the cold efficiency, the industrial scale slaughter, that only communists & nazis are capable of.

nmewn's picture

Its probably not possible to comment on a thread about Marx and socialism/communism without bringing up some 20th century fabrication/plagiarism is it?

Well, however you decide to attack Marxism is fine with me, just don't expect me to join your little national-socialist Hitler Youth book club. 

NidStyles's picture

What's the matter, you have something against tiny little moustaches?

nmewn's picture

lol...yes, I think I do ;-)

FreedomGuy's picture

Yeah, the fake distinctions between National Socialism and Soviet Socialism. These two were just warring family members. They were/are both autocratic with a centrally planned state, a nation run by one party and all things done by permission of the State. The fascists were slightly more practical in that they did not actually feel the need for the State to own all property and the means of production. They simply ran the economy through law from minimum wage to production quotas.

Both of these ideologies are far left or the autocratic left. To the right of them is democratic socialism where you vote on what to do with other people's stuff and what you will make everyone do. This is roughly where the USSA and Europe are. There are no sacred property rights, including privacy that cannot be violated at will by the State. The far right are the anarchists and libertarians who have little to no statism and the individual and his liberty are supreme. In the far right we are not all property of the State and ants in the centrally planned ant hill.

nmewn's picture

I've always marvelled at the ease with which communists placed nazis on the right, to the right of THEM perhaps but so far to the left of me as to make them indistinguishable to me.

They both held the state as superior to the individual, the exact opposite of my view of what any nation-state should be.

GeezerGeek's picture

Authoritarian? Or authoritarian on the path to totalitarian?

As to whether it is fascism (national socialism) or Communism (international socialism), I don't care. I'm not one of the elite, and slavery and subjugation feel the same either way, but you're coirrect when you say it's deadly.

armageddon addahere's picture

Fascism = national socialism

Communism = international socialism.

TimmyB's picture

A combination of communism and fascism without any communism is what we have now. All of this country's economic gains go to the owners of property, aka the capitalists. These same people control our government via campaign contributions to politicians.

TheReplacement's picture

That would seem to be the case.  However, think of there being more than one group vying for power.  Perhaps one group is playing this fascism phase out because it gets them closer to their goal.  More centralized control is more centralized control.

When we wake up one day and learn that bankers and/or CEOs are killing themselves all around the world we might know if there is anything to this.

snodgrass's picture

America today exhibits Clinton's "third way". Fascism at the top, communism/socialism at the bottom.