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Stunning Drone Clip Reveals Massive Size Of Hong Kong Protest
Ferguson was for amateurs.
For those curious why the Hong Kong protests over the weekend have sent shivers across the world's capital markets, pushed the Hang Seng 2% lower, and impacted both European and US futures, not to mention leading to worries that China may get involved any second and result in another Tiananmen square event, the following clip from HK's Apple Daily, taken by a drone, shows just how massive the demonstrations, which according to some estimates involved just why of 100,000 people, taking place in Hong Kong are.
As Mashable adds, "far from a small protest by a limited number of outspoken citizens, the video shows just how large the movement to preserve Hong Kong's democratic elections has become. Currently, the protests have grown so large that parts of Hong Kong's business district have been brought to a standstill, prompting the temporary closure of 17 local banks. In addition to the drone footage, Apple Daily has also posted a live video stream of the protests, allowing the world to watch as events develop in real time."
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Pink Floyd reunion concert?
Mother.....should I build the wall?
A warmup for the tribulations to come.
We jammed 300,000 people on the beach of Atlantic city to watch the Beach Boys, this little crowd can be dispersed with squirt gun.
So is it the size of the dog in the fight or the size of the fight in the dog?
DaddyO
Man, if you can't get laid in that crowd.
these kinds of mob activities serve as a reminder that the remote switch that allows local officials to disable your phone is only a tiny advance in public safety
what is needed is a remote switch that incapacitates all these potential workers when they are not performing necessary duties for their employer, their family, or their nation
hugs,
winston smith
+1.
For those curious why the Hong Kong protests over the weekend have sent shivers across the world's capital markets
No curiosity here, I understand it completely. When global money sees a risk to its wealth-siphoning, blood-funnel-like activities, it is given pause to reconsider.
Back to work, drones! Happiness is just a lifetime of hard work away!
Feel bad for the HK folks...i got tons of friends there....but they are not the younger generation....Anyways, dont know how it will be resolved as I dont think both sides are really at fault here AND this incident maybe something which will make China look real bad in the eyes of the global community.....but the biggest thing that I noticed from all this is that at least the younger generation in HK realizes there is a problem AND decided to do something about it...whereas the young ones here would only line up for a fuckin bendable Iphone...Hey American kids,....get off your fuckin arses and stand up for YOUR future, you can see that numbers DOES matter.
I see over-population.
"Ferguson was for amateurs."
Why do the Tylers at Zero Hedge insist on comparing the demonstrations in Hong Kong to Ferguson?
The circumstances and the demographics are COMPLETELY different!
Ferguson was mostly about race, looting and outside radical leftist agitators exploiting the situation to bring in the kind of oppressive, authoritarian Marxist government that the youths in HK are demonstrating against.
If a black cop had shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, there would have been no demonstrations and the news media would have mostly ignored the incident.
If a black cop had shot a young white youth, there would have been no demonstrations and the news media would have completely ignored the incident.
They need to take China down before NUKULAR 9/11 Truth really goes viral.
Both Russia and China are working 24/7 to expose the Anglo-American (+ Israeli) 911 perps.
They shipped all the steel beams to China -- HUGE evidence handling mistake ... after they tried to steal China's GOLD.
9/11 TRUTH GOES NUCLEAR: Massive Download In Progress
Our whole life is one giant fuckin lie.
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Have a nice day.
beijing hasn't perfected the false choice two party system like the usa has..yet.
Listen Blotto,
Not on The Hedge my friend!
BLOTTO,
I like your outlook. As odd as it may be for me to say that, I believe there really is a lot of truth in that statement when it comes to our i) political economy, ii) wealth creation and iii) freedom. It's all based on lies backed up by violence. Truth is swept under the rug.
Some 911 victims remains ended up in landfills. One in Ohio for sure.
On the surface, I agree the Ferguson shooting was captured by the Black caucus to stage a national issue, hoping to get out the vote in much the same way the Trayvon Martin led to strong donation drives for D-PAC's and membership sales.
On a deeper level, HK was always seen as a Canton outpost, like Singapore and going back to 1400 Ethnic Han in Bejing has always seen the Cantonese as traitors to the Middle Kingdom, and are a case on level with the Urigurs/Tibetans.It is much the same issue as in the Ukraine, only replace ethnic Ukranians with Cantonese.
The British promised the Cantonese that there would be implicit freedoms and protection for their language, education system and legal system in the event of a handover. Since the handover in 98, none of those have been obligated and starting with changes to the education system, what private HK schools are allowed to teach (ie, anything not Maoist revisionism) this has been a long simmering issue amongst ethnic and native HK's. The larger issue at work here is that if HK can not vote for their own leader, then in the eyes of the Canton it is a repeat of the 1100-1400 period where Han would parachute in Emperor loyal oligarchs to manage the Dirty Canton's as a Duke Regent.
I don't need to draw the parallels to Scotland and Ukraine, where activists initially want freedom from oligarchy and reform for deep rooted structural issues but the protests are either violently suppressed and/or the movement is captured by more radical elements who overwhelm the inexperienced student unions and grassroots labor unions. As seen in Egypt / Syria the ZH narrative is that these issues speak volumes to the general confidence in the recovery and malcontent in wealth distribution/job opportunity. A quick tencent "google" confirms that since 98, the unemployment rate amongst Canton's has approached that level seen in other "dirty" castes within Han occupied China.
Hope that clears up some stuff for you. Enjoy the gold barf, you deserved it.
Cantonese are Han Chinese, most cantonese are still living in Guangdong province and still pretty faithful to China, what you really mean is the difference between northern 'mainland' Chinese and southern cantonese.
They are all Han Chinese, the difference is regional cultural, not genetic.
The real bone they have between the northern and southern cultures is that southern cantonese are more traditional and holds on more to the old ways, whilst the northerners were more willing to smash up their tradtions during the communist revolution. Even today, despite their communist/capitalist upbringing, you'll find people in HK are far more conservative than people in Beijing.
it's more of the Communist/Nationalist divide from China's breakup 60 years ago, rather than something going back to 1400s. HK and Taiwan were capitalists holdouts that always opposed communism, and almost all the old Chinese capitalists fled to HK or Taiwan when the communist took over, there is still some leftover bitterness lingering in the population that used to be in the opposite camp.
Yes, and that is the stance taken by most Han. Which is a parallel to the stance taken by most Moscovites that there is no difference between them, and the Ukranians/Polak tribes. Thank you for proving my point; one side sees it as their manifest destiny to rule over "lesser" tribes, the other side wants to enjoy the liberty & freedom of free trade and progressive reforms they were promised at Doha.
Basically we can argue the new "cold war" is which world do you want:
Westphilian where reforms are done by plurality and directed at growing mean wealth per capita
or
Strongmen taking the world back to leadership via cult of personality for a clique of Oligarchs who rotate between Leviathian & SOE's.
Taking a step back, it has placed the Western world in a good game of chess. If you support your ideals, and softly back Xi's reforms then you risk Tianammen 2.0, that plays to Putin's strategy of "Romantic Nationalism".
The Boxer revolution was well documented by Asian scholars to have been driven by those who were seeking a Canton based, UK/US facing Plutarchy similar to Singapore (and then had to retreat to Taiwan). Most of those key families and factions who threw in with the Nationalists did draw on the last great revolts against Bejing rule to fight the Maoists.
It will end with 2 scenarios
1.) Xi can not sell out his Politburo allies by allowing HK to do free votes, or else he will need to extend that same right to the other psudo-independent states inside China (as you identified, parts of the North and East borderlands). Let the riot momentum fizzle out
2.) Riots totally fuck up Chinese tourism & Consumer spending, China needs to pull a Saudi Arabia and shower HK with money
3.) The bozo option: Pull a Syria.Part of which will call for the nationalization of property and forced merger of Oligarch real estate assets with the property laws of imperial (communist) Bejing.
ferguson was 1k niggers, here it may be like 30k chinese...
keep talking small prick usa, you are overwhelmed, 317m vs 1.2 billion, go fuck yourself, usaholes
YEAH, get out there and fight for, um....democracy.
democracy is such a big word, and so often abused, particularly here
the Chinese leadership does not want to take the vote away from the people of Hong Kong
they just feel that The Party has a right to choose the right list of candidates for that vote (in the order of twice as many as seats to be voted on, if I remember correctly)
so Hong Kong protesters are not fighting for the right to vote. they are fighting for the right to have more than one political party. and no, I don't think that two parties only would really satisfy them
let this sink in for a moment
'Americans getting off their collective arses?!?!' maybe when American Idol is over......
Seems like we've got a society that willingly administers (and pays for) its own SOMA - while willingly carrying (and eagerly updating) the tools of state surveillance.... but Big Brother has a contingency plan for when things REALLY hit the fan (something far back in history instead of personal experience for most people - just wait until gov no longer can pay for foodstamps and costs shoot through the roof, when people are REALLY hungry and cold.....) It won't be pretty.
glad I'm near the end of my life - our Founding Fathers must be spinning in thier graves
I didn't see anything that resembled protesting. They looked more like dosile hindu cows.
Roads = Commerce. Do not fuck with them. Tyranny is financial and so too will be protest.
Official Chinese government figures show the crowd size as less than 500 people.
And no doubt, the gathering was set to commemorate flawless vision and wonderful achievements of Chairman Mao.
Headbanger,
A few things:
Your comments are free from any intellectual substance or meaning.
Try not to impress your repressed sexuality onto a forum that deals with political economy.
It's okay, we'll take it easy on you, as you clearly fit under special circumstances when it comes to offering anything interesting to ZH.
zp
That's about the only time Americans can gather in large numbers...
I do wonder how the police would respond to crowds that large. They can't claim to be protecting the people when that many people are involved truely breaking the social contract the police gave up long ago.
One thang's for sho, the police can't carry enough ammo!
Ukraine: Protesters take down Lenin statue in Kharkov, carve “Glory to Ukraine” on side (VIDEO)
http://wtfrly.com/2014/09/29/protesters-take-down-lenin-statue-kharkhov-...
Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert had triple that number at the Rally To Restore Sanity and/or Fear on the Washington Mall in 2008(?date). Cheek by jowl from the stage to the WW2 Memorial, and three blocks across. Well in excess of a million souls...and where was the Press(for those always blaming the Press for being liberal)? They never left the Starbucks Twins, two blocks behind the stage. Not a whit of accurate coverage.
Pity we didn't pull a sit-in at the Capitol that day - we sure had the right crowd.
perhaps the right crowd, but the wrong (election) year?
If the two stooges Stewert and Colbert garnered the "right crowd" I'm proud to be wrong.
God Bless these folks, but I don't think this will end well.....
Tiananmen Square anyone?
I believe 'pigs' and 'dogs' from their Animals album are more salient here
Had been tossing up between which to re-read first, Orwell's 1984 or Animal Farm.
1984 got the nod, but Animal Farm lined up next.
Can you read Orwell in China? (SOundtrack by FLoyd)
to read Orwell properly you need an adequate grasp of English, which most kids in English-speaking countries nowadays don't even have...
What English speaking countries?
The younger people in Asia have a better grasp of English than US kids have. I was in China a couple of years ago with my wife and her mother, both ethnic Chinese from Singapore. We were walking around a college in Xiamen, a coastal city across the straits from Taiwan. My mother-in-law needed to find a bathroom and we asked a student there where one was. She walked us there, and then asked if we wanted to have a tour of the campus. Even though my wife and mother-in-law speak fluent Mandarin and Cantonese, she wanted to speak English with us on the walk, just so she could practice her language skills with English speakers.
Many times a sense of history and culture play a role as well. It just produces more well-rounded and grounded individuals.
When one's history is the Happy Meal, good times and RAH-RAH-RAH ..........
HK was fantastic! I visited many times between '94-'97. On one trip, I was supposed to stay for a week and wound up staying for a month.
have seen longer lines
at the Colorado pot shops
Mother, should i trust the goverment?
wish there was a delete button
It must be tough living in a world you didn't create...
DaddyO
It is like we are stuck in a literal Kobayashi Maru scenario like in Star Trek II.
If you understand that you'll understand there really is only 2 ways out of this trap.
It is eactually not really since this is human process that plays out over and over.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_II:_The_Wrath_of_Khan
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The Wrath of Khan follows in a long tradition of films in which the adventurer or explorer must undergo a figurative or literal death to start anew.[56] Spock is Kirk's doppelgänger and together they represent a bifurcated hero, with the two characters representing dueling halves of the human condition. Spock represents the supernatural ideal of a completely logical and infallible person, while Kirk represents the impassioned and human reality, prone to error and at odds with himself.[57] Spock's sacrifice at the end of the film allows for Kirk's spiritual rebirth in the tradition of the death-rebirth cycle. After commenting earlier that he feels old and worn out, Kirk states in the final scene that "I feel young."[6] The Kobayashi Maru test forces its participants to confront an unwinnable situation which serves as a test of character, but Kirk reveals that he won the test by cheating; Saavik responds that Kirk has never faced death. Spock's own solution to the no-win scenario, that of self-sacrifice,[58] forces Kirk to confront death after continually cheating it, and to grow as a character.[6] Sight and sound reinforce the themes of death and aging, as well as the promise of rebirth; Spock is the first character seen and his voice is the last heard, and his coffin follows the same trajectory towards the new planet as the Genesis Device does in a video lecture earlier in the film.[6] The principle of sacrificing the needs of the one for those of the many was translated to modern triage via the 'Spock principle'.
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You can figure out who is mirroring Khan in this scenario.
Btw this describes exactly the scriptual method one goes through to become a Christian. Conversion or new birth first with the blood of christ washing away the sins, water was just a symbol of this process in the Old Testament.
Baptism by Triune immersion in the holy spirit follows conversion not the other way around.
It is not a supernatural thing is a very human process and condition necessary to grow and evolve. The ritual, religionous processes, scenarios are really inconsequential it is the process that is important.
You can blame Constantine again for changing this one. Ritual baptism before conversion is a pagan idea not Christian.
"For washing is the channel through which they are initiated into some sacred rites— of some notorious Isis or Mithras. The gods themselves likewise they honour by washings. Moreover, by carrying water around, and sprinkling it, they everywhere expiate country-seats, houses, temples, and whole cities: at all events, at the Apollinarian and Eleusinian games they are baptized; and they presume that the effect of their doing that is their regeneration and the remission of the penalties due to their perjuries. Among the ancients, again, whoever had defiled himself with murder, was wont to go in quest of purifying waters."
(Tertullian, On Baptism, Anti-Nicene Christian Library, vol. II, chap. 5).
You know Constantine murdered his wife and son and like the typical pagan ruler he was consolidating religions into a single church he reprogrammed the simulator to not go through the conversion and waited until right before he died to be baptized to cleanse himself of that guilt. He never became a Christian because he never went through the process.
Whether you believe in this as religion or not it is a important process in the growth of any human being and a lot of effort and bullshit thrown forth to keep it from happening with individuals on up. If you want to build better people they need to go through the process.
One would say what does this have to do with Hong Kong. It has everything to do with them. The idoltry and ritual aspect is used to control the process because it deflects away from the process and focuses on the idoltry which in turn is used to retard the process that needs to happen every generation. It has been too long in the coming. They are facing the same scenario there as people are around the world because the prior generations didn't go through the process. They think they did but the reality is they never did when they worship idoltry.
You need to get totally lost to be found. It finds you not the other way around. They never did it and the Scotish referendum showed they still won't. Though the one thing they don't tell you is when you get totally lost other thing malevolent things will find you also and try to stop the process and destroy you in the process. The books sort of allude to that in the mythology of Christ wandering in the desert and serpents speaking to him. It is symbolic of the process.
This is the mass awakening the tptb fear the most because it the great uniter of all people if the process plays out en masse. Regardless of the my religous dick and rituals are bigger than yours bs people who've actually been through the process will know each other when they see them or hear them regardless of all that. It is personal process with no one right way to go through it playing out all over the place right now.
+1 burning bush
great stuff dewey
Constantine was just applying to baptism - which he could anyway not do during his lifetime because of political reasons the pagan ideal of "washing the sins away"
see the tribulations of Hercules, where he murdered in a rage (sent by Hera) his wife and children, and then had, according to the pagan consensus, to find a path to get rid of this blood sin/debt (ending with a high priest ritually washing him from it). the path starts with being outcast from his original society of course
a huge part of the Western moral and legal setups is still pagan Roman. it was Christians that rewrote much of the old pagan past in a children's tale of pagan immorality. mostly because they did not like the strong disconnection between legal (like killing your own wife and son) and moral (it's murder, and has to be atoned) that pagans observed
"Whether you believe in this as religion or not it is a important process in the growth of any human being and a lot of effort and bullshit thrown forth to keep it from happening with individuals on up. If you want to build better people they need to go through the process."
Exactomundo!
True knowledge is in the process of initiation and it begins at the basic level by knowing what we are is not just a physical being. We are mind, body, and soul. Harmony and true happiness comes when they all agree to not conflict with each other. The spiritual being you are IS the reality, and everything on the outside is the unreality. The Maya. The Matrix. The Grand Illusion. The Movie Show. All outer stimuli to help you the soul grow and learn the lessons of life, one day at a time. After which we move on.
Sadly, part of the "dumb them down to control them" methodology in today's edumacational departments has been the conditioned non-truth that we are only physical beings, and the world is only made of the physical plane that we experience with the five senses. Wrongo-dongo! Nothing could be further from the real truth. We are ALL spiritual beings having a human experience in this 3-D space and everything in action is a mathematical equation. Every expressed energy, action, word, and deed is known. Sometimes it takes many lifetimes to get that downpact.
What is never taught unless amongst the initiated of many lodges and sacred paths that all lead to that same place of knowledge, is what the seeker after truth learns through actual hands on experiences and that is YES, there is the other side of life. It is the spiritual side and actual experiences of the great unseen teachers, or the Great Mystery show one the way to the truth that is there in every soul. For many after the processing into the greater realities, there is no going back. Sinking down to the level of denial of that grand truth of the reality of the Spiritual side of life, is just stupid. It actually hurts to even try to be that low vibration of ignorance.
The tools of the Eleusisinians were fine indeed and still used today. If every soul on board were to go through that one initiation as they did in the days of old, it would really be a better world. All would know the truth that there is no escape from the unseen world from which we have all come, and eventually return to. The common quest becomes all about laying up those real treasures in that place where they count the most, and it ain't in a physical place any where, or anything material in this world. It becomes common knowledge that there are two kinds of richness. One is of the heart, the other of the pocket. Any wise one KNOWS which is more valuable to embrace and propagate in todays modern earth world. They would KNOW that there is no escape from that which awaits each and every one. We all answer to the scales of judgment eventually. When you get there, get there in Karmic Credit, and not in Karmic debt.
Meh, justa a few tings that some take many life times to learn.
Be wise and choose your path well, said the old Knight.
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Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files | By JACK GILLUM Posted: 09/29/2014 8:18 am EDT Updated: 29 minutes agoWASHINGTON (AP) — Bureaucrats in Ferguson, Missouri, responding to requests under the state's Sunshine Act to turn over government files about the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown, are charging nearly 10 times the cost of some of their own employees' salaries before they will agree to release any records.
The move discourages journalists and civil rights groups from investigating the shooting and its aftermath.
The city has demanded high fees to produce copies of records that, under Missouri law, it could give away free if it determined the material was in the public's interest to see. Instead, in some cases, the city has demanded high fees with little explanation or cost breakdown. It billed The Associated Press $135 an hour — for nearly a day's work — merely to retrieve a handful of email accounts since the shooting.
That fee compares with an entry-level, hourly salary of $13.90 in the city clerk's office, and it didn't include costs to review the emails or release them.
Price-gouging for government files is one way that local, state and federal agencies have responded to requests for potentially embarrassing information they may not want released. Open records laws are designed to give the public access to government records at little or no cost, and have historically exposed waste, wrongdoing and corruption.
"The first line of defense is to make the requester go away," said Rick Blum, who coordinates the Sunshine in Government Initiative, a coalition of media groups that advocates for open government. "Charging exorbitant fees to simply cut and paste is a popular tactic."
Since Brown's death and ensuing protests, news organizations, nonprofit groups and everyday citizens have submitted records requests to Ferguson officials, asking for police reports, records about Brown and the personnel files of Officer Darren Wilson, who shot Brown Aug. 9.
Organizations like the website Buzzfeed were told they'd have to pay unspecified thousands of dollars for emails and memos about Ferguson's traffic-citation policies and changes to local elections. The Washington Post said Ferguson wanted no less than $200 for its requests.
A city spokeswoman referred inquiries about public records requests to the city's attorney, Stephanie Karr, who declined to respond to repeated interview requests from the AP since earlier this month.
Some states provide public records for free or little cost, while others like Missouri can require fees that "result in the lowest charges for search, research and duplication." The AP asked for a fee waiver because it argued the records would serve the public interest, as the law allows, but that request was denied.
In late August, the AP asked for copies of several police officials' emails and text messages, including those belonging to Wilson and Chief Thomas Jackson. The AP sought those records to reveal the city's behind-the-scenes response to the shooting and public protests.
Ferguson told the AP it wanted nearly $2,000 to pay a consulting firm for up to 16 hours of work to retrieve messages on its own email system, a practice that information technology experts call unnecessary. The firm, St. Louis-based Acumen Consulting, wouldn't comment specifically on Ferguson's contract, but said the search could be more complicated and require technicians to examine tape backups.
The American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri filed a public records lawsuit days after the shooting for Brown-related police reports, but ultimately received a censored report that omitted officers' names and other details usually released in such documents.
Jonathan Groves, president of the Missouri Sunshine Coalition and a former daily journalist, said that while public agencies can legally charge reasonable fees for records, an unfettered Sunshine Law is nonetheless an important tool "so that we have faith in what the government is doing."
Other governments also have demanded spectacular fees. During the 2008 presidential campaign, for instance, news organizations asked for emails belonging to former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice presidential nominee.
The Anchorage Press said officials at first wanted $6,500 in search fees, leading the newspaper to withdraw its request. Thousands of pages of those emails were ultimately provided to news organizations for about $725 in copying charges.
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Associated Press writer David A. Lieb in Jefferson City, Missouri, contributed to this report.
If Ferguson is charging outrageous fees for records related to the Brown shooting it means they've completed their investigation, and it doesn't make the Police Department or city look good.
You may think you hire these politicians with your vote, but you don't. The party backers influence the Parties to stand up two essentially identical candidates. The secretary of state, who normally produces the actual election results is a bought off position.
They are criminals, EXACTLY like the Sopranos or the Corleone's.
And don't think to take them to court... that too is bought off by way of the cartelization of the legal profession, and neutering of Grand Juries 80 years ago.
I seem to remember many wanting our government run like our efficient private businesses...
A few years ago, I asked for some emails under my state's sunshine laws, and I got them. But, there was a catch. The emails, which were already in electronic format, were printed out when I got there, and they wanted to charge me a fee for each copy of the emails that they had printed. It wasn't huge. Something like $0.50. But they could have just emailed them to me for free. This was the norm, to make it a PITA for people wanting public records, until a couple of years ago when the state's sunshine law was amended so that it stated that, if the records were in electronic format, and were requested in electronic format, they had to be given to the person requesting them in electronic format. The way it was done before was not only wasteful, it had also resulted in people bringing laptops and scanners into copy the records themselves.
The amendment to the law was introduced by a state senator named Steve Fishman. I ran into him not too long after the bill had passed and thanked him. He said that he was "an open government kind of guy." He also stated that other members of the senate tried to kill it in committee, because they knew they would have to vote for it if it made it to the floor. He's since quit the senate, and while he didn't state so explicitly, I got the impression that it was because he was sick of the bullshit corruption that is pervasive at every level of our society. I had a long conversation with him. He even knew about a bunch of the banking shenanigans, including the OTC derivatives BS.
Ewww!
Well this is no "Pink Floyd reunion concert"
http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/urgent-13000-american-troops-deploy-sp...
"Chinese protesters demand Iphone 6 now!!!
Mah, I still see a lot of empty spaces between the crowds.
For the last 6 years I have occasionally visited Hong Kong for work, and I was shocked to learn how poor the level of English is. It seemed to me that the Hong Kong Chinese (Cantonse) have quickly switched sides after the British left in the late 1990's and threw out the baby with the bathing water. Everything English/British was quickly replaced by Chinese/Asian. Now they obviously are having regrets and doubts, but it is too little too late.
They wanted so badly to join the motherland in 1997, well, now they can enjoy all the 'benefits.'
Anybody heard from W Banzai since this started? Hope yer kewl, WB!!
"prompting the temporary closure of 17 local banks...."
What if they all used their ATM cards at once?
And the chant is Shanghai Silver! Shanghai Silver! Shanghai Silver. Its gone already.
It's about jobs, or lack of. I have a language partner in Beijing who holds an Engineering degree and has for 5 years but can't get a job, despite trillions spent on ghost cities and other malinvestment.
He's a staunch Chinese supporter but even he says the climate is highly charged and could blow anytime because everyone knows why there's no jobs, unless you're in the Communist party, then there's jobs galore.
Do they have to buy healthcare and are stuck with 29.5 hr/wk jobs too?
Nahhh.
They're all a bunch a fucking whiners pissed cause their new iPhone 6 bends
And it doesn't recharge in a microwave oven either..
"...everyone knows why there's no jobs, unless you're in the Communist party, then there's jobs galore."
Funny - that is the same thing here in the USSA.. err, I mean USA.
Socialism is never for the socialists.
Lets' wish that their 'job' is to destroy the Commies...
It's just another Western oliagrch's (or shadowy elites, power elites, powers-that-be or the scum that is standing behind government, running it) staged protest like it was at Maidan 7 months ago. Even the very name betrays their "colors." It was always thus with paid youth "protesters" -- it's been thus in Lybia prior to NATO agression (when they "opposition" proved to be unable to overcome Gaddafi), or in Libanon 2005, or in Georgia 2003, or in Kyrgistan 2005, or again i Ukraine 2004, or in Serbia 2000, etc. -- always organized and paid youth causing mischief, somethimes they do get a jackpot (regime change), often times don't so their paying masters have to intervene directly. It's just a product of Western intel and NGO agencies, no doubt about it. Hopefully, China will crush them! Break their legs, Chinese! I wish we had done the same in Serbia 15 yrs ago!
p.s.
Oh, and the motive is very clear: it has to do with China&Russia alliance and plans to de-Westernize the world. And as a free man, I wish them all the best. We, tne free world, certanly do not need or want any more globalized world and degenerations which came with it. Good riddance to globalism!
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Of course it's NATO. How many times do we have to watch this scene before pattern recognition sets in? As usual, it starts with the students, as the young and idealistic are always the easiest to indoctrinate.
I had doubts at first b/c attempting to destabilise China is suicidally stupid even for Barky, but when I saw the calls for Dumokrissy and that it was, as usual, coming from the students, I had to agree that this is same pattern I've seen a couple dozen times now. Stupidity these days has a keynesian flavour in that there really is no limit to its exponential growth.
So what's stopping him from being a commie? Join the commies and get a private sector job. Makes total sense.
Anyone who has ever been to Hong Kong for any kind of celebration knows that the crowd in the video is tiny.
Looks like a normal crosswalk to me.
Yeah man, New Year in Dubai looks scarier than that. Where are the fires, where is the smoke?
Well, the markets are tanking, and the banksters have to blame someone or something in order to pre-empt anyone who might be curious enough to look into it and realize it's their fault.
I landed in Burbank around midnnight. The Lakers had just lost the championship. This was '88 I think. The air was full of gunshots as the gangs attacked each other in fury and frustration, mixed with grieving rage.
Except you have little chance of being Tiananmen Squared in a celebration. It's harder to motivate people to tease death for something as "trivial" as Liberty.
Vote: Give me liberty
Vote: Give me free iPhone 6
Tough decision.
Is that Iphone with free service?
I don't like the weight of all the crowds on the crosswalks.
Likely this will end is such a way to drive dow up above 18k
Not today. So far it's been down below 17k.
Long Chinese tank tread cleaning services.
Abosolutely, positively gross.
Yes, I believe that's the slogan of Tread-e-Vac.
No idea where this will go but I remember Tiananmen back in '89. Also reminds me of Roger Water's "Watching TV" on Amused to Death.
and precious metals are down????
We are spiriling into a deflationary economy, slowly, so yes some things must come down, just as they went up.
They'll trade their PM's at the bottom for a car payment.
Yeah democrazy! I want to choose between Odumbo and Shitt Romney... Freedom!!!!
They're protesting bc the Chi-Coms only gave them three puppets from which to choose. In USSA, the Party only puts up two candidates and the sheeple fall over themselves to declare which team they're on.
I want to choose between Odumbo and Shitt Romney...
Kinda like choosing between Boehner and Pelosi......both are progressives.
I heard that Boehner, in between drinks, said he'd like to see the Marines in Syria. Then he went back to sleep.
Pelosi was out shopping. Please don't bother her.
As for democracy, that's either an ancient relic, like gold, or just a piece of paper, like the constitution, right?
Don't vote. Then you can bitch all you want and anybody who says you can't, just doesn't get it or hasn't seen the George Carlin clip.
I'm hoping for Hillary in '16, for a very simple reason. With her ugly mug on the tube, with ol' Yennen by her side, it should make puking your guts out very compelling.
Puke Across America. Coming soon to your town.
Don't expect John Roberts to step in....he's busy hiding the illegal adoption of his two kids.
Just hand him anything.....he'll sign it.
Don't you just love your government?
Yes, he exemplifies the exceptional part of our democracy.
Give Boehner a gun and some ammo and ship him off to Syria. Lets see what he's made of....
The Chinese oligarchs would probably find an easier route to their end-game by allowing Western-type faux democracy...
http://olduvai.ca
a few thousand out of seven million :yawn:
long tear gas & rubber bullets
fills my heart with joy that there are still people in the world who care enough to get up off the couch and turn off ESPN. Yet embarrassed to be an American, where we have the RIGHT to peaceful protest and all we muster is a Ferguson embarrasment.
Looking at Chinese history.. democracy in China will probably lead to civil war.
Enjoy your euphoria. This could end up like all the Arab Spring uprisings and US meddling and interventions.
People die and you end up with a much bigger asshole in charge.
The problem is that chinese made tear gas, if you want to quell pro-democracy protesters you gotta buy American!!
Dude, you don't know about Chinese made tear gas.
The version thry were uding in Thsiland in 2008 was taking protesterss' legs off.
The empty canisters they picked up (to be used as material evidence when the government is sued ) says they were made in England.
Somebody hung a big sign that said "Free iPhone 6 with every wonton platter purchase". Predictable outcome.
Couple of observations:
Don't those people have cars?
Bet there aren't too many farms in Honk Kong.
No way it's just "why" of 100,000, or even shy of 100,000.
Liked the music, but the Woodstock sound track is much better, especially Alvin Lee and Ten Years After's "I'm Goin' Home".
OK, here's the clip. Dancing optional.
11:24HDWoodstock - Ten Years After - I'm …YouTube · 2,397,000+ …
Nothing to see here folks. Just a flash mob assembling for a "Thriller" perfomance.
This proves people are not powerless. When you put enough sheep together they can bring traffic to a halt!
I'm not sure whether you're serious or not, so pardon me if I misread; but it's pretty insulting to call these people "sheep". They're taking a real, personal risk to stand up against a corrupt, communist tyranny which is trying to rig the upcoming HK elections. That's more than I or, I dare say, most ZH readers have ever done.
No need for demostrations in the u.s as our elections and political system are pure as the wind driven.
Our candidates are vetted by one party as well...Bilderbooger
"Picked" special, eh?
If this happened in America, the police would have fired their bullets already
We gett a bigger crowd for this at the annual Candied Haw Festival in Qingdao.
BFD
What a truly stupid comment.
You can put a large crowd of students on the street for any reason. It is meaningless. That was my point. Do you see any of the people who work and run HK in this photo? No. Just students who do not yet work or participate in society yet.
Revolution in their minds
The children start to march
Against the world in which they have to live
And all the hate that's in their hearts
They're tired of being pushed around
And told just what to do
They'll fight the world until they've won
And love comes flowing through.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
If China gets pissed enough
They'll end up in a zoo.
My name's Moe,
Yours is Larry,
We smell sumfin burnin'
Is it coal or canary?
Where's Wael Ghonim?
Working for Google.
The Ministry of Truth has banned all mention of the protest, in their words, 'Hong Kong students violently attacking government' LOL. Shows their mindset.No reportage in China (just wait until the Golden Week shoppers get an eyeful) but, a televised broadcast on Beijing-supported Phoenix Television went so far as to describe footage of the protests as “crowds gathering to celebrate China’s National Day and show support for general election plan,” .
Yep! There's no need letting the plebs see a real protest of this size and scope, they might get ideas. Meanwhile let's not talk about the FAA enroute facility radar issue in Chicago either...we need those plebs to continue showing up to get fondled and x-rayed even if their flight is cancelled.
Cue McCain to visit and US advisors in 3...2....1...
edwynne and jacob rothschild must be so happy with nazi war criminal soros.
how comforting it must be to have a human connection with hitlers times carrying on the free ing ups of cuntries.
china is the fat udder belly of the brics ripe for for cia,mossad isis.
blackwater style wrecking crews i am sure are already in place.
ngo ngo is the route and bonio from u2 style charity
sniper teams shooting cops and students should gets things moving towards the mainlands.
if some fake head cutting black man in a us meat pack yard last week can be called isis
why not isis hong kong
gladio forward
talmudic blood rituals and psy operations init.
Really off the meds today, aren't we? That was one breathtaking burst of incoherence right there.
incoherence that got you wasting your precious time in reply.
time that could of been spent money changing charging interest or raping kids for your talmudic ritual.
saturn satan time is rabbi time : )
Hit the nail on the head SD. Light day on the meds...
Seriously Athenian, you and SD can kindly fuck off.
If you need it broken down for you Barney style, it goes like this.
Reading Tony does require an I.Q. of above room temperature. Maybe you would be happier consulting CNN or the NYT for your newz.
on a slight tangent, a mainstream HK radio show was talking all this morning about rumors of unidentified western interests manipulating the Nikkei and Hang Seng.
Worrisome, but I'll still vote for 'unidentified westerners manipulating windage and elevation' as the senior threat here.
Odd though, in the sense that Asian businessmen/oligarchs have about four thousand years more experience manipulating their markets than any western noob. That's not any kind of overarching statement about Asians in general. It's a very specific observation that Western criminals are bush league compared to their Asian counterparts and I can't imagine they would ever be able to pull anything over on them. I don't condone it, I simply respect their superior skill and depth of experience.
The only reson I could see Westerners being 'allowed' to manipulate Asian markets is if they were slowly being set up for the kill - it would serve the rubes right. In that case,
Go, Asian crime lords! Kick the Western criminals' asses.
very astute observation amigo.
leads one to think that the discussion i listened to this morning might be part of the setup. or perhaps code for "windage & elevation".
gotta admire how the asians play go, that's for sure.
I like his incoherence. Incoherence breeds clarity.
Wait, what...
Don't you love the smell of CIA in the morning...
History will show Hong Kong to be special because they are the first people to "wake up" to the reality of their loss of freedom and what it means to them. We'll see nothing like this in the U.S. This will be the last country to wake up after hitting the wall. Think Pearl Harbor, think The World Trade Center (TWICE). It has to happen first, THEN we wake up. Uniquely an American phenomena.
Hong Kong is a society that was fooled into believing that kicking out the UK would give them 'Freedom'. The illusion was maintained until now, but the people finally are waking up that they are under the control of a small group of Communist Chinese leaders.
America is a country that was fooled into believing that the Patriot Act would protect our 'Freedom' and keep us safe from terrorists. The illusion is still being maintained as the people have not woken up to the fact that they are under the control of a small group of oligarchs.
I note one of the headlines saying they'd "Like to vote in "meaningfull elections". So wouldn't I.
The British didn't get kicked out nor did they leave because they woke up one day and decided they wanted to leave. Hong Kong was leased from the Chinese, a lease that expired in 1997, at which time it reverted to the Chinese. Clearly, the Chinese were glad to get Hong Kong back, given it had become one of the more prosperous cities in Asia.
And for the record, the British never installed any form of democracy in Hong Kong despite having 150 odd years to make it happen. That remains a sore point amongst many today.
Believe me, this is nothing, I see this amount of people every night in Hong Kong.
But sitting in the middle of the street blocking traffic and dare chairman Xi to send tanks to run them over ?
Doesn't China know that the key to preventing mass protests is to hand out unlimited supplies of EBT cards, free Obama Phones, free Obama Care, more free money if you 'make' more kids, a phony War on Drugs that ensures adequate supply, free marijuana, cheap Colt 45, and American football?
I love the Chinese for being willing to make their views known in numbers.
But I am not sure it will do any good. If it would make any difference the Party wouldn't let them do it.
In essence, it is a Boettian threat - refering to Etienne De La Boettie's formula that all power is borrowed from willing or unwitting accomplices, and unable to successfully resist any kind of numerous determined opposition.
So, when they gather 100K to protest, there are the inevitable comparisons of the size of the protest vs the strength of government forces.
The problem is that is medeval math for battles...and wasn't really true even then. Organization trumps numbers, always. Skill trumps numbers, always. This was Alexander's contribution to the field of miltary knowledge.
But surprize is a great combat multiplier.
Threats are useless. If you have 100K it would be more effective to simply use them, and not give the authorities time to organize or prepare.
More proof protests don't accomplish anything.
A fine and noble effort, but do these people not know that elections can be rigged? Just look @ Amerika. Over here, the progressives merely insist that voters do not need to produce photo ID at the polls. Vote early, vote often, indeed!
LOL... he said "liberals"
ya, all our problems are commies in the dem party. wake up fool. L=R
P < P + I
Sigh, when I was younger and visiting HK, you could see hundreds, even thousands of sweet young Filipina Overseas Workers congregating in the parks on Saturday morning. How things have changed.
Bring back the British......
We tried to tell you it would not work,
Would never happen in the US. People are too controlled by Obama and the MSM.