"We'll Become ISIS" - The Devaluation Of America's Young Men

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by James H. Kunstler via Kunstler.com,

I played fiddle at a small-town, country dance last night with several other musicians and it was a merry enough time because that kind of self-made music has the power to fortify spirits. About half the dancers were over 40 and the rest were teenage girls. The absence of young men was conspicuous. Toward the end of the evening, it was just girls dancing with girls. A wonderful and fundamental tension was not present in the room.

The young men are out there somewhere in the country towns, but this society increasingly has no use or no place for them, except in the army. There is absolutely no public conversation about the near total devaluation of young men in the economic and social life of the USA, though there is near-hysterical triumphalism about the success of young women in every realm from sports to politics to business, and to go with that an equal amount of valorization for people who develop an ambiguous sexual identity.

There really is no local forum for public discussion in the flyover regions of the USA. The few remaining local newspapers are parodies of what newspapers once were, and the schools maintain a fog of sanctimony that penalizes thinking outside the bright-side box. Television and its step-child, the internet, offer only the worst temptations of hyper-sexual stimulation, artificial violence, and grandiose wealth-and-power fantasies. There aren’t even any taverns where people can gather for casual talk.

Many of the remaining jobs “out there” are jobs that can be done by anyone — certainly the office work, but also the jobs with near-zero meaning, minimal income, and no status in the national chain burger shacks and box stores — and young women are more reliably subject to control than young men jacked on testosterone, corn syrup, and Grand Theft Auto.

Of course, the idea that higher education can lift a population out of this vortex of anomie is a cruel joke, especially now with the college loan racket parasitizing that flickering wish to succeed, turning young people into debt donkeys. The shelf-life of that particular set of lies and swindles will hit its sell-by date soon in a massive debt repudiation — and the nation will come to marvel at the mendacious system it allowed itself to get sucked into. But this still only begs the question of what young men will do in such a deceitful system.

My guess is that they will shift their attention and activity from the mind-slavery of the current Potemkin economy to the very monster we find ourselves fighting overseas: a domestic ISIS-style explosion of wrath wrapped in an extreme ideology of one kind or another replete with savagery and vengeance-seeking. The most dangerous thing that any society can do is invalidate young men. When the explosion of youthful male wrath occurs in the USA, it will come along at exactly the same time as all the other benchmarks of order become unmoored - especially the ones in money and politics - which will shatter the faith of the non-young and the non-male, too. Also, just imagine for a moment the numbers of young men America has trained with military skills the past 20 years. Not all of them will be disabled with PTSD, or mollified with rinky-dink jobs at the Wal-Mart, or lost in the transports of heroin and methedrine.

The authorities will have no way to understand what is happening and we are certain to endure a long season of violence and social chaos as a result. The re-set from that will be an economy and a society that few now yammering will recognize. That society emerging from the ashes of the current matrix of rackets will desperately need young men to rebuild, and there will be plenty of opportunity for them - though it won’t feature fast cars, Kanye West downloads, or bottle service.

There are other ways for young men to find a useful and valued place in a society, but these are too far beyond the ken of our current meager narratives.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Sounds like SOMEONE might be ready for the Red Pill.

Bad Attitude's picture

From the article: "Also, just imagine for a moment the numbers of young men America has trained with military skills the past 20 years..."

Some of those men with military skills are actively training others the art of war in anticipation of future conflict.

Forward (over the cliff)!

0b1knob's picture

Young Black men are a lot futher along on this path than the whites, but they will all end in the same place.    The "We'll become ISIS" isn't just an idle threat for Blacks.  Prisons in the US are practically colleges for teaching Islamic terrorists.

curbjob's picture

The most dangerous thing that any society can do is invalidate young men. "


Seriously ? The  reason the Middle East is so fucked up is because their society invalidates 50% of intelligent input.

No doubt we're in a 4th turning and, like every paradigm shift, the scapegoats are coming fast and furious.

Supernova Born's picture

Lars Christensen of Saxo Bank spoke very powerfully on Bloomberg as to the euro "project" and its impact on young people: "I find it quite shocking to see that [senior politicians] are actually willing to sacrifice an entire generation of young people just for a political project that ultimately is doomed to failure."

At 8:00 into the following: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/euro-may-fall-as-low-as-1-20-saxo-bank-ce...


Freddie's picture

The dumbest thing is college kids and alumni worshiping football and basketball teams where whites are laregly excluded.  The morons cheer and worship by the hundreds of thousands as the student fans end up in debt serfdom for life while the players get a free ride.  Total morons.  Many of these stadiums hold 100,000 + "fans" or really serfs. 

JMT's picture

Basketball teams where 'whites are largely excluded' -- but in what other sport?? Baseball, the NFL, MMA, Golf???   Yes, the area around Barclay stadium is still pretty hood in Brooklyn and before even entering the stadium you have to go thru a TSA style security check because of potential 'trouble' which is why even though I am from NY, I will never visit that place

TheRedScourge's picture

It will be okay, the males of my generation are entranced with Xbox and Steam, we haven't noticed any problem yet. The women can work and we'll sit at home playing games. We don't even realize we're on strike, but hey, what goes around comes around I guess.


The logical solution for the elites is to send us overseas, perhaps China or Russia, but we won't fight. Not offline at least.

The Doofus's picture

I don't believe any of this bullshit.  Our main problem is that we're an off-shored economy.  Plain and simple.  Start getting the manufacturing back and shit will return to normal.  If not, then we're screwed.

StandardDeviant's picture

Hey, maybe the young men could sit around and pimp their blogs all day.  Show 'em how it's done, Doof.

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Sheeple.

"Prisons in the US are practically colleges for teaching Islamic terrorists."

I love it how the counterculture non-MSM "FOLKS" on the "FRINGE" cutting edge blogs are so bought into the MSM message:

"ISIL" is the boogieman!

BOO Bitchez!

ZerOhead's picture

And in an ugly new development...

British Prime Minister David Cameron calls for those who dare question the official version of 9/11 to be considered as dangerous as ISIS terrorists...


BeetleBailey's picture

Yes...the same David Cameron that is a total piece of shit.....that wanker...


Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Bailey,

What about "BEBE" saying: "ISIL is the same scum as those FUCKING Gazans"!

I'm paraphrasing, his words not as harsh but his meaning was, this.

somecallmetimmah's picture

Psychotic Muslim fanatics bent on killing every Jew/Christian/Buddhist/atheist/deist/agnostic on the planet?
Oh yeah, *those* guys...

Bangalore Equity Trader's picture

Listen Timmah.

You been "WATCHIN'" Fox news?

"Wordup, Now we know how those poor Israeli's feel, this what my pastor at the Baptist Church down on USSA MLK Blvd, was preaching 'bout last Sunday"!

Freddie's picture

Look up his Wiki.  His family have provided kosher banking services to the Red Shield for 200 years and their forte was financing wars.   I.E. raising money to profit off the mass murder of innocent people.

kchrisc's picture


Now we KNOW, without a doubt, that the 9/11 and 7/7 Truthers are on to something.

The speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwOfQI8YA8

An American, not US subject.


"It's not lying if it's all bullshit."

thestarl's picture

Maybe Cameron can explain to us all here how on earth it was possible to fly that plane at ground level into the Pentagon with no experience

WonderDawg's picture

Some people doubt it was a plane that hit the Pentagon. I don't have an opinion on that particular matter, but ol' number 7 is another thing.

kchrisc's picture

Yeah, freefall-1 and freefall-2 along with freefall-7 pretty much do it for me.

Freefall-7 is sort of like the "back and to the left" of 9/11.

An American, not US subject.


"Get K-Tel's newest exciting video, the Dancing Mossads. Dance for fun, dance for fitness or dance for treason, but you won't be able to resist dancing along with the Dancing Mossads as each WTC tower falls in the background. Only $19.11 plus shipping and handling from Israel. Order today!"

trulz4lulz's picture

Now science is illegal? Is it 1273? WTF is going on? This is laughable....

Bunga Bunga's picture

Isaac Newton will be declared a terrorist too.

FeralSerf's picture

"those who dare question the official version of 9/11" are potentially MORE dangerous to Cameron and his pals than THEIR (and Mossad and Company's) ISIS terrorists.

DaveyJones's picture

oops, Feral beat me to it. Well said

Bossman1967's picture

I have one of these18 yr old boys I cant say man. Nothing I do gets him to wake up and I am left with no option but to kick him out on the 1st. Reading this article leaves me with litlle hope for him but I wont have this shit going on in my house. What have they done to our youngsters. Unbelievable

Silky Johnson's picture

Sorry but that's kind of a cop out. When you say, "What they have done to our youngsters", you are as much to blame for any shortcomings or inadequacies in the kid. You may have been too busy and thought the outside world would teach the kid what he needs to know to become a man.

 I wish you luck because that's a shitty situation.

Bossman1967's picture

I have been teaching for 18 years. Your full of shit. He went to scgool and they un did all i worked om. I was called a racist by my own kid just for voting for John Mc cain. No other reason so you need to get your facts together.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The young men of America had there jobs and value to the country outsourced.  When the dollar collapses they will be back in demand.

Gringo Viejo's picture

@WB: Yes sir. Copy that. As an old man. I'm given allowance to choke up viewing this picture. I had the best America had to offer economically in the '70s. This man will have nothing....because of my generation.....the boomers. Time came to give back, we kept on taking. May history record us as those who destroyed America. May posterity revile us for the spawn that we were.

newworldorder's picture

I call BS on your statement. The plight of young men was not boomer created but Democratic Party created. Take your boomer guilt and peddle it somewhere else. At least find the correct outlet for your anger.

Millions of Black men were sent to jail, millions were left to rot like animals in the projects by Democrats who controlled their lives and votes.

Millions of white men were subsitituted in the workforce by affirmative action quotas for females and other minoirities, with the government trying to fix the ills of 100 years of Jim Crow, in the space of one or two generations.

Millions of jobs were encouraged and  allowed to leave the US through Globalist Trade policies, never to return.

Millions of illegals allowed to invade the borders of the United States, taking jobs away from both black and white males.

So dont blame the boomers. This was no accident. The Political and Money power of the United States during the last 50+ years at least, had a plan, have a plan and are executing it with relish on the rest of us. Give it another generation and all the dissadvantaged, with no opporunity in their own country will meet each other on the streets of America, (US born and illegal,) for a long awaited discussion that will solve all their problems.


GlobalCtzn's picture

Yeah it was the Democrats................


Good God man, are we not at least awake enough around here to have moved beyond the Dem/Repub false dichotomy? If I want idiotic myopic commentary like that I can go check out Huff Post or any of the other sheeple corrals. Seriously! When I read comments that originate from that simpleton line of thinking it makes me realize that there really is probably no hope. Way too many people lost in the woods of their own sophomoric false naratives. You outline some symptons clearly, but you seriously need to look a little (or a lot) deeper for the culprits. It is like you are playing chess, but can only see the pawns.............

newworldorder's picture

While there is much blame to go around and the Rep party is not guiltless, -  since the mid 1960s, the majoriy ills of this country lie at Democratic Policy objectives. Start with the social programs that were supporsed to equal the playing fields, but have turned into acts of financial and criminal slavery.

The laws that were about fairness have been turned into a redestibutve mechanism for society. The Division of the races that started out so promising change, turned into perpetual hate for rival races of Americans

Regardless who one blames, the situation is almost unfixable. There is not enough good will, trust, respect for the concept of America. All that is left is the worhip of the $$ for all those in power. And yes, as someone who has lived under a perpetual Democratic Party Machine for over 30 years, I do blame them for most of the ills of our country.

Fiat Envy's picture

Who elected those Democrats?

somecallmetimmah's picture

Yes sir. And just think: some wealthy, well-fed "artist" took his sweet time photographing that young man, just so he could sell it to a publisher.
And then, walk away, leaving him on that curb.

That's why I generally run-over artists with my car anytime the opportunity presents itself. I figure, "that turd-factory could have been the next Hitler". Then I go home and take a nap.

Gringo Viejo's picture

@somecall: As the late, great Sam Kinison said in his skit about the filming of starving Africans:

"I mean the cameraman could have given the kid a sandwich or somethin'."

Vullsain's picture

Yeah, maybe a few are beginning to open their eyes. ZH'ers who can see beyond the doublespeak of the PC MSM will have a higher percentage of individuals who can see what is so self evident. Kunstler is just scratching the surface.

(The PC speak on this subject is from both the Left and the Right of the One Party system)

astroloungers's picture

to sum it up " we gon burn this muthafukah down"

...or maybe not

markpower49's picture

Roissy and Roosh should be required reading for these indoctrinated douchebag millenials, who don't have the stones to revolt. Who's really being denigrated are white men and our accomplishments.

j-dub's picture

What % of American men do you believe truly understand red pill philosophy?  5%, 10%?

Gringo Viejo's picture

In America, anyone with moral conviction is being devalued. Things are coming to a head.

the6thBook's picture

Ok when I was in my 20's there were 10 guys for every 3 girls at any club and I doubt if it is any different.

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

Ya but in general, the population was still the same, just more guys going out to clubs to get laid. This article should really be write for the Chinese govt. They have millions of men with no possibility of ever finding a female companion due to the surplus of men that's skewed their demographis due to the one child policy, and it's going to keep getting worse as more of them mature. Those millions of single men are going to get pretty pissed off when they see what has been done to them. They will either just start fucking each other, or try to over throw that govt. Jokes aside, which do you think is more likely?

Stuck on Zero's picture

Female births are rising substantially because they can be sold for huge sums as brides.

pelican's picture

US twenty year old rise up? Seriously, most cannot think nor plan. Too busy with drugs, electronics and being dicks.

Aaron Hillel's picture

More likely?

A great patriotic war that will consume the surplus of young men and leave the current leadership , and their families comfortably in power.

As it always been, and will always be.

GoldenDonuts's picture

So this is a new revelation to who exactly?