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"We'll Become ISIS" - The Devaluation Of America's Young Men
Submitted by James H. Kunstler via Kunstler.com,
I played fiddle at a small-town, country dance last night with several other musicians and it was a merry enough time because that kind of self-made music has the power to fortify spirits. About half the dancers were over 40 and the rest were teenage girls. The absence of young men was conspicuous. Toward the end of the evening, it was just girls dancing with girls. A wonderful and fundamental tension was not present in the room.
The young men are out there somewhere in the country towns, but this society increasingly has no use or no place for them, except in the army. There is absolutely no public conversation about the near total devaluation of young men in the economic and social life of the USA, though there is near-hysterical triumphalism about the success of young women in every realm from sports to politics to business, and to go with that an equal amount of valorization for people who develop an ambiguous sexual identity.
There really is no local forum for public discussion in the flyover regions of the USA. The few remaining local newspapers are parodies of what newspapers once were, and the schools maintain a fog of sanctimony that penalizes thinking outside the bright-side box. Television and its step-child, the internet, offer only the worst temptations of hyper-sexual stimulation, artificial violence, and grandiose wealth-and-power fantasies. There aren’t even any taverns where people can gather for casual talk.
Many of the remaining jobs “out there” are jobs that can be done by anyone — certainly the office work, but also the jobs with near-zero meaning, minimal income, and no status in the national chain burger shacks and box stores — and young women are more reliably subject to control than young men jacked on testosterone, corn syrup, and Grand Theft Auto.
Of course, the idea that higher education can lift a population out of this vortex of anomie is a cruel joke, especially now with the college loan racket parasitizing that flickering wish to succeed, turning young people into debt donkeys. The shelf-life of that particular set of lies and swindles will hit its sell-by date soon in a massive debt repudiation — and the nation will come to marvel at the mendacious system it allowed itself to get sucked into. But this still only begs the question of what young men will do in such a deceitful system.
My guess is that they will shift their attention and activity from the mind-slavery of the current Potemkin economy to the very monster we find ourselves fighting overseas: a domestic ISIS-style explosion of wrath wrapped in an extreme ideology of one kind or another replete with savagery and vengeance-seeking. The most dangerous thing that any society can do is invalidate young men. When the explosion of youthful male wrath occurs in the USA, it will come along at exactly the same time as all the other benchmarks of order become unmoored - especially the ones in money and politics - which will shatter the faith of the non-young and the non-male, too. Also, just imagine for a moment the numbers of young men America has trained with military skills the past 20 years. Not all of them will be disabled with PTSD, or mollified with rinky-dink jobs at the Wal-Mart, or lost in the transports of heroin and methedrine.
The authorities will have no way to understand what is happening and we are certain to endure a long season of violence and social chaos as a result. The re-set from that will be an economy and a society that few now yammering will recognize. That society emerging from the ashes of the current matrix of rackets will desperately need young men to rebuild, and there will be plenty of opportunity for them - though it won’t feature fast cars, Kanye West downloads, or bottle service.
There are other ways for young men to find a useful and valued place in a society, but these are too far beyond the ken of our current meager narratives.
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Sounds like SOMEONE might be ready for the Red Pill.
Kanye who ?
From the article: "Also, just imagine for a moment the numbers of young men America has trained with military skills the past 20 years..."
Some of those men with military skills are actively training others the art of war in anticipation of future conflict.
Forward (over the cliff)!
Young Black men are a lot futher along on this path than the whites, but they will all end in the same place. The "We'll become ISIS" isn't just an idle threat for Blacks. Prisons in the US are practically colleges for teaching Islamic terrorists.
" The most dangerous thing that any society can do is invalidate young men. "
Seriously ? The reason the Middle East is so fucked up is because their society invalidates 50% of intelligent input.
No doubt we're in a 4th turning and, like every paradigm shift, the scapegoats are coming fast and furious.
Lars Christensen of Saxo Bank spoke very powerfully on Bloomberg as to the euro "project" and its impact on young people: "I find it quite shocking to see that [senior politicians] are actually willing to sacrifice an entire generation of young people just for a political project that ultimately is doomed to failure."
At 8:00 into the following: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/euro-may-fall-as-low-as-1-20-saxo-bank-ce...
The dumbest thing is college kids and alumni worshiping football and basketball teams where whites are laregly excluded. The morons cheer and worship by the hundreds of thousands as the student fans end up in debt serfdom for life while the players get a free ride. Total morons. Many of these stadiums hold 100,000 + "fans" or really serfs.
Basketball teams where 'whites are largely excluded' -- but in what other sport?? Baseball, the NFL, MMA, Golf??? Yes, the area around Barclay stadium is still pretty hood in Brooklyn and before even entering the stadium you have to go thru a TSA style security check because of potential 'trouble' which is why even though I am from NY, I will never visit that place
It will be okay, the males of my generation are entranced with Xbox and Steam, we haven't noticed any problem yet. The women can work and we'll sit at home playing games. We don't even realize we're on strike, but hey, what goes around comes around I guess.
The logical solution for the elites is to send us overseas, perhaps China or Russia, but we won't fight. Not offline at least.
I don't believe any of this bullshit. Our main problem is that we're an off-shored economy. Plain and simple. Start getting the manufacturing back and shit will return to normal. If not, then we're screwed.
Hey, maybe the young men could sit around and pimp their blogs all day. Show 'em how it's done, Doof.
Listen Sheeple.
"Prisons in the US are practically colleges for teaching Islamic terrorists."
I love it how the counterculture non-MSM "FOLKS" on the "FRINGE" cutting edge blogs are so bought into the MSM message:
"ISIL" is the boogieman!
BOO Bitchez!
And in an ugly new development...
British Prime Minister David Cameron calls for those who dare question the official version of 9/11 to be considered as dangerous as ISIS terrorists...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/british-pm-david-cameron-non-violent-extrem...
Yes...the same David Cameron that is a total piece of shit.....that wanker...
FUCK YOU DAVY...YOU FUCKIN PIKER
Listen Bailey,
What about "BEBE" saying: "ISIL is the same scum as those FUCKING Gazans"!
I'm paraphrasing, his words not as harsh but his meaning was, this.
Psychotic Muslim fanatics bent on killing every Jew/Christian/Buddhist/atheist/deist/agnostic on the planet?
Oh yeah, *those* guys...
Listen Timmah.
You been "WATCHIN'" Fox news?
"Wordup, Now we know how those poor Israeli's feel, this what my pastor at the Baptist Church down on USSA MLK Blvd, was preaching 'bout last Sunday"!
Look up his Wiki. His family have provided kosher banking services to the Red Shield for 200 years and their forte was financing wars. I.E. raising money to profit off the mass murder of innocent people.
Awesome!
Now we KNOW, without a doubt, that the 9/11 and 7/7 Truthers are on to something.
The speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwOfQI8YA8
An American, not US subject.
"It's not lying if it's all bullshit."
Maybe Cameron can explain to us all here how on earth it was possible to fly that plane at ground level into the Pentagon with no experience
Some people doubt it was a plane that hit the Pentagon. I don't have an opinion on that particular matter, but ol' number 7 is another thing.
Yeah, freefall-1 and freefall-2 along with freefall-7 pretty much do it for me.
Freefall-7 is sort of like the "back and to the left" of 9/11.
An American, not US subject.
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Now science is illegal? Is it 1273? WTF is going on? This is laughable....
Isaac Newton will be declared a terrorist too.
"those who dare question the official version of 9/11" are potentially MORE dangerous to Cameron and his pals than THEIR (and Mossad and Company's) ISIS terrorists.
oops, Feral beat me to it. Well said
Andy Rooney, is that you?
I have one of these18 yr old boys I cant say man. Nothing I do gets him to wake up and I am left with no option but to kick him out on the 1st. Reading this article leaves me with litlle hope for him but I wont have this shit going on in my house. What have they done to our youngsters. Unbelievable
Sorry but that's kind of a cop out. When you say, "What they have done to our youngsters", you are as much to blame for any shortcomings or inadequacies in the kid. You may have been too busy and thought the outside world would teach the kid what he needs to know to become a man.
I wish you luck because that's a shitty situation.
I have been teaching for 18 years. Your full of shit. He went to scgool and they un did all i worked om. I was called a racist by my own kid just for voting for John Mc cain. No other reason so you need to get your facts together.
The young men of America had there jobs and value to the country outsourced. When the dollar collapses they will be back in demand.
@WB: Yes sir. Copy that. As an old man. I'm given allowance to choke up viewing this picture. I had the best America had to offer economically in the '70s. This man will have nothing....because of my generation.....the boomers. Time came to give back, we kept on taking. May history record us as those who destroyed America. May posterity revile us for the spawn that we were.
I call BS on your statement. The plight of young men was not boomer created but Democratic Party created. Take your boomer guilt and peddle it somewhere else. At least find the correct outlet for your anger.
Millions of Black men were sent to jail, millions were left to rot like animals in the projects by Democrats who controlled their lives and votes.
Millions of white men were subsitituted in the workforce by affirmative action quotas for females and other minoirities, with the government trying to fix the ills of 100 years of Jim Crow, in the space of one or two generations.
Millions of jobs were encouraged and allowed to leave the US through Globalist Trade policies, never to return.
Millions of illegals allowed to invade the borders of the United States, taking jobs away from both black and white males.
So dont blame the boomers. This was no accident. The Political and Money power of the United States during the last 50+ years at least, had a plan, have a plan and are executing it with relish on the rest of us. Give it another generation and all the dissadvantaged, with no opporunity in their own country will meet each other on the streets of America, (US born and illegal,) for a long awaited discussion that will solve all their problems.
Yeah it was the Democrats................
Good God man, are we not at least awake enough around here to have moved beyond the Dem/Repub false dichotomy? If I want idiotic myopic commentary like that I can go check out Huff Post or any of the other sheeple corrals. Seriously! When I read comments that originate from that simpleton line of thinking it makes me realize that there really is probably no hope. Way too many people lost in the woods of their own sophomoric false naratives. You outline some symptons clearly, but you seriously need to look a little (or a lot) deeper for the culprits. It is like you are playing chess, but can only see the pawns.............
While there is much blame to go around and the Rep party is not guiltless, - since the mid 1960s, the majoriy ills of this country lie at Democratic Policy objectives. Start with the social programs that were supporsed to equal the playing fields, but have turned into acts of financial and criminal slavery.
The laws that were about fairness have been turned into a redestibutve mechanism for society. The Division of the races that started out so promising change, turned into perpetual hate for rival races of Americans
Regardless who one blames, the situation is almost unfixable. There is not enough good will, trust, respect for the concept of America. All that is left is the worhip of the $$ for all those in power. And yes, as someone who has lived under a perpetual Democratic Party Machine for over 30 years, I do blame them for most of the ills of our country.
Who elected those Democrats?
Yes sir. And just think: some wealthy, well-fed "artist" took his sweet time photographing that young man, just so he could sell it to a publisher.
And then, walk away, leaving him on that curb.
That's why I generally run-over artists with my car anytime the opportunity presents itself. I figure, "that turd-factory could have been the next Hitler". Then I go home and take a nap.
@somecall: As the late, great Sam Kinison said in his skit about the filming of starving Africans:
"I mean the cameraman could have given the kid a sandwich or somethin'."
Yeah, maybe a few are beginning to open their eyes. ZH'ers who can see beyond the doublespeak of the PC MSM will have a higher percentage of individuals who can see what is so self evident. Kunstler is just scratching the surface.
(The PC speak on this subject is from both the Left and the Right of the One Party system)
to sum it up " we gon burn this muthafukah down"
...or maybe not
Roissy and Roosh should be required reading for these indoctrinated douchebag millenials, who don't have the stones to revolt. Who's really being denigrated are white men and our accomplishments.
What % of American men do you believe truly understand red pill philosophy? 5%, 10%?
In America, anyone with moral conviction is being devalued. Things are coming to a head.
Ok when I was in my 20's there were 10 guys for every 3 girls at any club and I doubt if it is any different.
Ya but in general, the population was still the same, just more guys going out to clubs to get laid. This article should really be write for the Chinese govt. They have millions of men with no possibility of ever finding a female companion due to the surplus of men that's skewed their demographis due to the one child policy, and it's going to keep getting worse as more of them mature. Those millions of single men are going to get pretty pissed off when they see what has been done to them. They will either just start fucking each other, or try to over throw that govt. Jokes aside, which do you think is more likely?
Female births are rising substantially because they can be sold for huge sums as brides.
US twenty year old rise up? Seriously, most cannot think nor plan. Too busy with drugs, electronics and being dicks.
More likely?
A great patriotic war that will consume the surplus of young men and leave the current leadership , and their families comfortably in power.
As it always been, and will always be.
So this is a new revelation to who exactly?
Fot the longest time its been,
Girls are special and important. Men, who cares.
Gays are more special than 'conventonal' people, Minorities are more special than white, Other religions are more special than christianity.
When the lid comes off this it wont be fun.
Actually I'd say it's already coming off.
Case in point: Anders Breivik, who got pissed off at exactly what you described.
That is the false choice argument. You are arguing principles and they are acting in reality.
The point is that you are still distracted with the noise that they create to make it so they can act on their goals.
my fellow zerohedgers, read the book "Men on Strike" by Helen Smith, it can be read easily in a weekend and cover all of this in much more detail... surprisingly, it is written by a woman that doesn't hate men
"The absence of young men was conspicuous."
No, you just couldn't tell how many of those women were actually men.
I tell my stepson, "You and your generation SHOULD be out there rioting because you've been systematically screwed"
He agrees. But he's too apathetic and too pacified by endless streams of electronic games to actually get out and act. Besides he saw the Occupy protests. The Man will let you protest just a litle and blow off steam just a little - but when it starts to look serious they will slam you hard.
When I was twenty I honestly believed that many great potential futures were open to me. But now our system has been so decimated by absolute corporate control and the endless building of parasitic power structures that do nothing but suck off wealth from the public that young men literally can see no future for themselves.
My stepson and his friends think $12 an hour is a "good" job and can't even imagine a future where they own a house and start a family. So they console themselves with their iphones and xboxes and junk food and live their simple, emotionally bleak lives.
I believe the article alludes to their apathy, society is doing its damnest to turn men into women.
Only their gentalia like Sol Rosenberg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7DrkLxFF0U
They've seen what happens to men who buy houses and start families - twenty years working to support a family, that you aren't part of.
I came here to say it's not just young men that are being devalued, it's men in general. There's a perverse reverse-equality that's been built into the system the past 50 years or so, with Faustian choices of a man having to work 12-18 hours a day to support a family he doesn't know, or both a man and woman working 10 hour days and having their kids raised by someone else (and usually ending with the wife walking away with kids and assets once they're in high school.) Just more evidence of how broken things are.
I recently hired a ninteen year old at 10 dollars per hour he was really fucking greatfull he's attending colledge
on a Fulbright every thing paid for he had a 4.2 GPA in H.S.
and is about 3.7 now he grew up the hood L.A. he's black and has a great fucking attitude.
doesn't drink or do drugs I told him to join Toastmasters to improve his comunication skills even though
he very articulate already.
In WWll there was a huge problem with teenagers and S.T.D's, Teen Pregnancies were skyrocketing as was Juvenile crime
Dad's off fighting and rosey the rivetor was working.
Mark Twain said when your kid turns into a teenager put them in a barrel when they turn 16 plug the feeding hole.
During the great depression there was entire Hoovervilles up to 60,000 children abandoned by their parents taking care of each other.
Ever scince I was a kid I alaways hear the same, this generations doomed! is it really?
You better hold on to that hard working young man they are few and far between
"Ever scince I was a kid I alaways hear the same, this generations doomed! is it really?"
I think the answer to your question is becoming self evident: Yes.
With each passing generation the deterioration of culture and opportunity increases. A country will not run very well with everyone working in a fast food restaurant.
My younger male cousins at least hunt and fish. But most young men have nothing to work at. No direction. And no reason to care.
Mining, manufacturing, and agriculture jobs would help build some character in a young man. Too bad the thumb-sucking progressives like you, Cuntsler, sold all that out over the last 50 years. Why don't we herd everyone into the cities and we can all be academics, masturbating philosophic about the problems our ideals-cum-policies have caused? You disingenuous non-committal "middle-of-the-roaders", trying desperately to straddle some imaginary middle ground between neo-cons and neo-libs (which are really the same fucking thing anyways), have caused the white male disenfranchisement you so eschew. You're a sad old fool. Enjoy your time on the government teat. You'll be the final generation with that luxury.
Didn't market forces get rid of those jobs? Do you really think as many workers are needed in agriculture vs. 50 years ago, even though we produce more food? Manufacturing is gone through the collusion of both parties, but least of all the union-backed progressives in the Democratic party--it meant the death of the unions, which we have largely seen by now. Mining seems to be employing quite a few people right now in the USA, as various commercials from our friends in the fossil fuels industry keep reminding me.
Yet you beat that prog strawman angrily. Give it 10-20 years when the robots made by benevolent US-based corporations take most of the rest of the jobs, and you will probably still be ranting on somewhere about the progressives.
Why would anyone want to work for Goldman Sachs?
Oh god, fiddle, potemkin in the same post, we're ruined! Ruined!
Fiddling, in the context of Nero, meant masturbating. For instance if Bill Clinton hadn't fiddled into the sink Black Hawk Down might've been a Waterloo of American proportions. Instead he came on the Kohler and we lost a few great men instead of a lot.
Please fiddle, young fellas. Take your time and beat off before every decision in your life. Take Nero's advice.
Our young men should be encouraged to do God's work. You know, like Lloyd Blankfein.
Of course, the idea that higher education can lift a population out of this vortex of anomie is a cruel joke
bio weapon development could be a plus
Why, The Ivy League is far more dangerous than ISIS. Ebola. La Emme. M13. The Mafia. Iran. China. Russia. No competition. Higher education is deadly.
It has been fun over the years watching JHK's evolution from lefty elitist snob to realizing the force of goobermint he used to cherish so much as a force for good is in reality a force for corruption and plunder at the point of a gun.
He's trying to play both sides. He'll probably run for office soon.
i have to second this.
i've been reading his articles for years, usually writing, if at all, to pont out his stupidity.
but yes, he has slowly gotten it over time. no more socialist control minded bullshit out of him.
This lefty piece of shit has probably been voting for this his entire life and now he is suprised? F him.
when you self are a POS-you look rather sissy to be calling others a POS....just sayin'
If you want to see what the future will be like, just picture Steve Liesmqns skirted egg head on a stick.
There's distortions on all sides of a money at all costs system. It used to be an unmarried man in his 20's was considered a dangerous thing--he probably still would be, if it wasn't for drugging him into submission. When will people figure out that both sides need the other?
IS is looking for a few good heads.
Yeah. The ones that never read '1984'
There really is no local forum for public discussion in the flyover region....
What a bunch of east coast liberal arrogance. What "forums for public discussion" do the metrosexuals on the coasts frequent?
ISIS is an inspiration to many right here in the U.S. Go ask Oklahomans.
But white trash won't lag behind colored trash by much - count on it. The situation inside the Empire of Chaos is becoming truly desperate. This is not going to end well. Total moral and social breakdown is already easy to see on the near horizon.
Hence - police forces highly militarized, Homeland Security and many other govt entities stockpiling automatic weapons and ammo, etc etc.
I'd give it 1 to 3 years before the feces totally contacts the rotating air screw. We're all going to get splattered, too. Many won't live thru it. Those that do will have fond but very sad memories of democracy and freedom.
The millenials are trained to be passive suckers.
Will they revolt?
They should.
We would *all* be better off if they did.
Will the thumb-sucking, chemically lobotomized, public educated, dumbed-down, government-dependant class revolt? Is that a serious question?
Have you considered that they actually are revolting?
They're not participating. It's a sit-down protest.
Why do they call it taking a dump when you're really leaving a dump?
There will be no revolt of the pussified US lady-men. All the strong, tough, (and honestly) stupid ones were/are being killed off in foreign lands fighting for illegal wars they VOLUNTEERED for. *sigh* It's hard to doing anything in skinny jeans.
As a 30 year old holding down a dead end job with massive student loans I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Where do you dump the rage, I have parents looking at me to stay out of trouble and society constantly insulting my intelligence.
I'm good at keeping my head above water but god damn how did I get stuck in this shit show.
When you are in the trenches of WWIII this will look pretty good.
Cheer up! Maybe you should consider doing porn, you look like you have an eye for talent.
Ha, by the looks of his av I'd say he has a mouth for it anyway
Oh you poor thing.... Do you have health insurance?? Have considered maybe seeking the services of a therapist & psyc doc for that anger and resentment you are holding?? I need to take anti depressant (Prozac), Mood stabilizer (Gabapentin) and anti anxiety medications for this reason but I only have to pay $10 for copay for each medication
If this is the best that the male commentators, former military or otherwise, can come up with here here, we're really in trouble! Apologies Binko, 'cause you're right. And also because many jobs have already been gobbled up by the for profit prisons. If you think $12. an hour is bad, get a load of what they don't pay prisoner/slaves (with government subsidies.) The military defacto draft of poverty is pretty unimpressive as even low echelon military people can't catch a break. I wonder what they're putting into the deep fried machine extruded snacks our young men are munching or what elixer is in those "energy" drinks?
Many of us Sixties oldsters took up the Thoreau
Lifestyle long ago, and never bought into the bullshit American Scheme, I mean dream.
The one Carlin said you had to be asleep to believe in it.
fiddle playin, banjo pickin, mandolin strummin ain't fro young men bro. thats for old men
in my day it was Dre, Tupac, and Nas
of course that was real music, real truth, real power, so there were plenty of chicks on my dick too
About 30 years ago I had a job in downtown Philly.
I had to work Saturdays.
I hooked up with a ballroom dance class @ Temple U's Walnut Street location.
I will never forget something the instructor told the class:
"The purpose of ballroom dance is to make the woman look beautiful."
Not enough socially benign ways for a man and woman to interact.
Church? Rofl
I think White men have been made the scape goats for every "victim" class out there. White replacement is real and is a government program in the USA. Mass immigrant invasions while loading the country down with debt that is unsustainable. Corporations don't want to pay for skills of domestic workers but rather import cheaper workers. The USA is on an unsustainable path, most likely the country will break up in smaller nations.
These "missing" young men are who the neo-cons and the ReadyReserve (In Obamacare) will target as they come back to power in two years or so.
"Young men! Signup today in the ReadyReserve and get yourself out of a rut and see this wonderful nation as you go around pounding on 'evil doers.' See your local evangelical Christian pastor to signup."
An American, not US subject.
Welcome to the black man's world.
Great article.
In other words, America is a nation of cannibals; and the measure of it is governmental debt: the process by which a generation of tax consumers financially cannibalizes following generations of tax payers.
And the Chinese communists have bought some $1.30 Trillions of US Treasuries, which gives them the “privilege” to do some of the cannibalizing.
Only in this case, it won’t be cannibalizing our young: it will be annihilation of America; for, America has become a mass of rotting slaves, freely available to any random conqueror, and wanted by none. Thus, Americans are scheduled to be exterminated, or breeded out of existence; and it will be carried out by Red Chinese and the ALLIANCE they cobbled together. So, what is this ALLIANCE? It was cobbled together by Red China shortly after they took possession of the Panama Canal, and includes Mexican and Columbian drug cartels, Chinese Triads, Red army, Chinese communist party, and several agencies of the US government (Congress, DoD, DoJ, DEA, Federal Reserve, FBI et cetera). And, simultaneously, they smuggled into the US 150 top level Chinese crime bosses. Don’t take my word for it; I only collected this info from testimony before a congressional subcommittee.
With this future staring them in the face, what else should we expect from our young?
But, don’t worry, if our young, or older, ever rise above their knees, it will be a mission of suicide. Why? It’s real simple: they have no knowledge of any effective redress against such odds.
You see, Americans have the power to stop it, and make accountable all who perpetrated this, or any other, evil; and they (Americans) refuse to use that power. There are three main reasons for this failure: one is that they have no knowledge of such power; the second, they’ve been herded into a kind of impotent stupor by medication and indoctrination; the third, that they aid, benefit or were complicit in such evil (full article).
And, evil will remain in power until a few (1%-2%) Americans learn, and use, historically-proven methods of redress.
Excellent comment. I have never found a more interesting website than yours...thanks for spreading the message Sir
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Thanks for your reply...
Uh, this was a country fiddle dance. Good grief. I grew up in a rural area in the 70s, and we had those. It was all old people and young females then, too. No self-respecting young male would go to such a thing, then or now. That Kunstler thinks that a fiddle dance is an activity a young male would get within a mile of, says a lot about Kunstler.
Apart from that, the problem is chemical castration of the young male population with estrogen mimics in food and the drinking water. That and demographics; it is hard to have a revolution in a society that is aging. Face it, ZH, if there is a rebellion by the population it will have to be led by old people, not young men. It could happen; there is a first time for everything. Crabbiness in old dudes can more than make up for a lack of testosterone, and old ladies can be terrifying once they finally get roused.
I'm 36... not sure what camp I'm in.... but I'm crabby as hell!!!!!
I think the core of this problem is the simple disconnect from reality for those who are in charge of making decisions for a class of people they have no right to be representing.
Its like a compounding effect, career politicians that really cannot relate to working class people let alone their children.
For mine its becoming comical, because the ZIO maters with their empires are now wondering who is going to pay them.
If they have to start to pay tax like the rest, and heaven forbid get fined are forced to pay back all the tax they owe the working and lower mid class their empires will start to tumble like a ton of bricks.
And I know for a fact the minute the status quo gets broken at the top, the empires of too big to pay tax are first on the hit list for the little people.
If all of todays youth had access in funding from all those billions of dollars these scum bags rip out of the economies they will have access to better everything, including jobs and more importantly education..
We should just send tham all overseas to fight....ummmm ISIS... ummm, who our "allies" funded... So basically it would be one more circlejerk.
USA, the Kingdom of Circlejerks.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting...
....slightly OT here but can I get a WHAT THE FUCK?
New York Fusion Center Declares Oath Keepers, Other Liberty Groups as ‘Extremist Threats’http://www.globalresearch.ca/crushing-dissent-in-america-new-york-fusion...
sooooooooooooo lemme get this straight. You take an oath to protect the Constitution and you're an extremist? Didn't O-Bomb-A take that Oath?
Well sure he did take that oath, but the difference is he had his fingers crossed behind his back, or between his legs or sumptin
ak of the PC MSM will have a higher
Id burn this world to the ground if i could. I look at ebola with some hope, but I know we wont be that lucky. I have a dream - the day of the rope.
It's not just YOUNG men who are pissed! "Don't pick a fight with a man who's too old for it. He'll just kill ya!"
Because = Old men hate, and want to kill, young men.
But this still only begs the question of what young men will do
I don't know what the will do, but they should find some good PUA websites and learn how it looks behind the female facades. From there on the recognition of all the other lies surrounding them will be much easier too.
Pick up artists are just boy toys. Real men are hunted down by women.
IM one of the few lucky ones (mid 20s with a corporate job)
I agree. I know way to many people who just a few years ago in high school (before 08) who were destined to become something.
Most of them are complete losers.
not sure if one would consider you a 'winner'.
You probably put in 50-60 hours a week in a job that you hate sitting in an office that recirculates stale and diseased air as you eat shitty food for breakfast and lunch atleast (if not dinner as well).
Others have gotten off the treadmill and are doing what makes them happy and surviving on the essentials.
He's happy to be a tax slave.
eucalyptus, your making a lot of guesses about him, he may not work 50-60hours a week and if he does he might do it because he LIKES his work and enjoys the office environment, his employments aircon might be top notch and he might enjoy a higher quality of air than most outside workers, as for breakfast, if he is making good money he might enjoy the very highest quality of food, you don't know, you have just spun a fantasy in your head.
Aussie - I'm going to make the assumption that it's clear you have no idea how the corporate world in America operates.
and spends in the three figures on alcohol each week and probably a few scripts for Adderall, Ritalin etc... as well as 5 hour energy shots.
That's the best article I've read in years.
The wussification of men in Amerikan society is well on its way; you go Pajama-Boy you go.
www.traderzoo.mobi
welcome to 2010:
The Misandry Bubble:
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
This is a must read for any man in anglo or western world.
I was moved by this quote. " There is absolutely no public conversation about the near total devaluation of young men in the economic and social life of the USA, though there is near-hysterical triumphalism about the success of young women in every realm from sports to politics to business, and to go with that an equal amount of valorization for people who develop an ambiguous sexual identity." In fact, at least in media driven and university driven America, I can see this as being true! I am a small town resident, born and raised. Indeed, the military was my route out of here as it was for many others. But back in those days, there were industrial jobs that paid good money, and young guys could and did go to work, by cars, rent apartments, get girl friends, party on weekends and work on week days. They had self respect and dignity, a good paycheck at weeks end and a nice car to pick up girls in. One thing I can confirm from James' story above. Young men are screwed, compared to 30 years ago!
The industrial jobs are gone. The trades jobs are being given to illegals and immigrants because they will work for minimum wage.
The trades jobs are being given to illegals and immigrants because they will work.
Really? do have actual facts to support this? or did you hear it on some AM talk radio show ? From what I see there are plenty of young men in the trades & construction jobs that are not illegals and pay at the lowest level starts close to $20 an hour for unskilled laborers these days
There is almost no respect for the normal male in our society. Everything abnormal is celebrated. Feminism and AA has usurped equal treatment under the law for almost all males. Young males have been relegated to work that women wont do and to fill the protection racket of big Government and the military.
Males, both Black and White have been relegated, to sitting in jail, peddling drugs, in the military or living at home with no work or financial future, while millions of illegals are allowed to invade the United States and take whatever jobs remain. These things are no accident. They have happened by design with Feminists and all the abnormals of society leading the charge to destroy the American male.
Women are still bitching that society is unfair to them.
The chickification of the economy is a primary driver of the destruction of the middle class.
It will not end well.
There is always opportunity for the resourceful. Don't expect anybody to hand it to you.
Excellent piece
The MSM and Hollywood want to feminize them.
haha, men who have been invalidated or who choose to be pussies? When ZH becomes like tinychat.
AGREE. Men have been marginalized for a long long time now. The school systems are teaching teachers and aides to target boys to be put on ritalin and even psychotropic and anti psychotic medication. Doctors are being told by teachers to prescribe. The u.s govt supports this. So does big pharma (suprise suprise).
A friend mentioned once, "watch couples and families walking, biking, etc around town, how many times do you see the women leading the family?"
Men have been purposely "feminized" and taught to give it all up to the women. The credit card companies know that most men will not rack up the 35,000 in debt. Watch the commercials on t.v, who are they targeting to spend money all the time, on everything.
God forbid you are a man and find yourself in divorce court, you will not get a fair trial and the statistics support this fact.
Why was Lilith turned into a wraith and banished? Why did g-d then create eve? because why??? and who had the conversation with the serpent and then brought the apple to adam???
i rest my case.
a man's job is to love and cherish and a women's job is to submit.
Maybe they are just sleeping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hLdnx3UNe2g
Testosterone... better yet, American testosterone, may just make a rousing comeback when the American spring kicks off.
Sure, 97% of young men will be lazy, popcorn-eating spectators, but the 3% that matter will be highly motivated, highly effective insurgents.
libtard thesis.. too much time in the ivory tower... or rubber room... too muchtime planning other people's lives... pathetic