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Hong Kong Protesters Give Wednesday Deadline For Reform As Chinese Army Watches From Above
The crowds of protesters in Hong Kong swelled overnight with some estimates that 3-400,000 "will join in a show of people's power," on the eve of the two-day National Day holiday. With neither side showing any signs of backing down, protestors remain calm and police keeping their distance - though monitoring from on high - as the Occupy Central group said it will announce plans for its next stage of civil disobedience on Wednesday if Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying does not meet their demands for democratic reform, including true universal elections by October 1 and Leung's resignation. Leung has called for Occupy Central leaders to "fulfill the promise they made to society" and immediately stop the protests, which he said have gotten "out of control," adding that, for now, they could keep control without the help of the People's Liberation Army (PLA). The protest meme remains one heard around the world - in addition to their concerns about democracy and out of control local government, Hong Kong’s younger generation are worried about low-paying jobs.
Pro-democracy protests swelled in Hong Kong on the eve of a two-day holiday that may bring record numbers to rallies spreading throughout the city as organizers pressed demands for free elections.
With the workday ended and temperatures dropping, thousands of people were returning to the three main demonstration points, blocking some of the city’s roadways. Hong Kong marks China’s National Day tomorrow, the 65th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China and Chung Yeung Festival on Thursday, when Hong Kong people honor their ancestors.
“It’s quite possible that at least more than 100,000, if not up to 300,000, 400,000 people, will join in the protest in a show of people’s power,” Willy Lam, adjunct professor at Chinese University of Hong Kong, said in an interview today. “They want to convince the Hong Kong government and Beijing that any use of force will be counter-productive. It will only galvanize more of the rest of Hong Kong’s 7 million people.”
Neither side is showing any signs of backing down even as China prepares to mark its National Day on Wednesday.
In a short statement, the Occupy Central group said it will announce plans for its next stage of civil disobedience on Wednesday if Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying does not meet their demands for democratic reform, including true universal elections by October 1 and Leung's resignation.
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Leung said he would not give into the protesters' demand for his resignation or for greater democratic reforms.
In a speech Tuesday, Leung called for Occupy Central leaders to "fulfill the promise they made to society" and immediately stop the protests, which he said have gotten "out of control."
Leung said the central government decision on Hong Kong on August 31 shows that it will not comply to illegal threats made by certain people.
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He also said on Tuesday Hong Kong police would be able to maintain security without help from People's Liberation Army (PLA) troops from the mainland.
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Hong Kong police have withdrawn now for more than a day and protesters are continuing their efforts to prepare for a longer, more drawn out confrontation.
But, as SCMP reports, Beijing may be keeping quiet about the Occupy Central protests, but the army appears to be keeping a keen eye on what's going on.
This picture taken by an SCMP photographer today shows a man in the People's Liberation Army using binoculars to survey the protest site in Admiralty.
A row of tripods can be seen in the windows, suggesting the occupiers have been under the watchful eye of China for some time.
Some protesters have voiced concern that authorities may return again in force later Tuesday in a bid to clear the streets before the Chinese holiday, when even more protesters are expected to join the rally.
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The red star on Chinese military headquarters in Admiralty is flashing bright tonight. The star was included in renovations to the building months ago, and it was unveiled in January.
While it was unclear when it had been switched on since then, the last time the People's Liberation Army's HQ decided to stage a light show on the harbour (in June), it generated controversy and set tongues wagging on whether Beijing was emphasising its sovereignty over Hong Kong.
It's a protest meme we have seen and heard around the world...
Of those who support Occupy Central, 47 percent were under the age of 24.
In addition to their concerns about democracy, Hong Kong’s younger generation are worried about low-paying jobs and increasing competition from mainland Chinese coming to the financial hub to work.
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology professor David Zweig said the controversy surrounding the 2017 elections and concerns that Leung is taking the port city down the wrong path are not the only issues driving the protests.
“I think the other issue is that there is a lot of anger. If you look at the data in general in Hong Kong, January this year, the anger at the central government, the anger at the local government, the concerns about future job prospects and all that and anxiety in general, this is worst than anytime since the major marches of 2003," Zweig said.
"I think if we want something, sacrifices cannot be avoided. No pain, no gain, right? When I see the young people's passion, I support them from deep within my heart. I hope there won't be any bloodshed," said Fung.
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All those poor folks will become faux pavement...
when does this come to USSA ?
when EBT cards run out.
The world squeals as the bankers squeeze it.
pods
What kind of response do you suppose the US gov would have in a similar situation?
see Bundy Ranch
I wonder how clean HK water is. I mean a huge population like that, where do they get their drinking water, and if its from mainland China, is it clean?
Is Victoria Nudelman handing out cookies to the protesters yet?
See Ferguson
The US Government can't beat the Taliban, although they seem to control the drug trade somehow.
It's all over all over now
If that's the best that PTB can do in China, I'm not impressed. Oh, and those kids protesting the low paying jobs by wasting their time in the streets ?! Good luck with that one... It reminds me of another bunch of kids who were "fighting the man" by spending their entire afternoons in a park, after school, drinking beer and smoking pot (until some cop showed up, confiscated the pot and spilled all their beer in front of them).
There will be no peaceful protest when the EBT cards run out..
Better be armed to the teeth by then.
"when does this come to USSA ?"
It cam and went, Occupy Wall Street was squashed under the directions of gauletier Bloomberg. From Washington, DC, AG Eric Holder coordinated the police brownshirts across the country -- whose mass arrests suppressed Constitutionally protected free speech. The police even used German shepherd police dogs to intimidate protestors. Welcome to Ferguson, USA.
"protesters give deadline"...they don't know how right they are.
"HOLD THE RED STAR PROUDLY HIGH IN HAND ! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTENoLk7cUo
game on !
We gotta get down to 500,000,000 before election day!!!
Shanghai Free Trade Zone wins.
Shanghai Free Trade Zone will replace hong Kong in a decade.
I feel for the people of Hong Kong because this was always going to happen, it was just a matter of when. I'm surprised it took this long. China wants to take over the world and has been angling for years.
You are stupid and blind.
Oh no - they are so nice, and they bow, and make good food.
Reminds me of that little man with the mustache from the land of sausages.
I smell yet another George Soros fart!
Thats the smell of 300,000 ppl pissing in that square...
And just like the NGOs that were funded by Chevron and Exxon in Ukraine this one will lose money for the "investors" as well.
By the way... Where is Vitaly Klitscho these days???...
Is he back safe and sound in Germany?.. Or did he do the right thing by returning to his native homeland to help clear the unexploded ordnance from the landscape he helped "put in"?... Or maybe he's assisting in the excavation of mass graves they keep finding with the remains of tortured women and men in them that have there body parts cut out and are being sold on the Israeli black market?...
Could have better used that money from the psyops operation(s) in China, Eastern Europe and the Middle East on the arctic oil drilling but it appears the Russians will be owning all of it thanks to the likes of Kagan, Georgy "Porgie" and the execs at Exxon Mobil!...
Opportunity cost can be a real bitch when you fuck up making the worst possible choices!
Klitshko is mayor of Kiev.
But I suppose that is a job he can do from Germany. He just has to be able to pass his orders down from State/CIA
DoS
Was not aware of that. Thanks for the intel on that.
No I think "punchy" has long since worn out his welcome once he sets foot outside Kiev, unless of course he is willing to admit that he's a contributor to the genocide of his own people and would work with the Russian government to further isolate the military junta that he supported in committing war crimes.
I dare say the Germans might even turn on him if he were to show up as Mayor of Kiev on visitation...
Poor young folk. Do they really think democracy will do them any favors? They need to take a closer look at the west and, for that matter, the results of successful 'revolutions' with catchy titles in places like Ukraine, Georgia, Egypt etc ...
+1
These young folk are being used to soften and to "deal a blow" to China. Just where does this "spreading of democracy" come from? Where have we heard of "bringing them democracy?" This is the current playing card of the western elites who in the past had pushed for the spread of communism. Today it is the push for the fallacy that is called democracy. Democracy is not "freedom."
TY protestors for giving your organs to cash paying patients.
The young want what the young have always wanted.
Truth, Justice, Fairness - and ALL those things adults always talk about but never, ever seem to deliver.
Not to mention Excitement, Noise, Crowds and the Possibility of Getting Laid later without getting Killed or injured by the Police/ Army
and pussy
Who'd have thought that the Chinese people and government would have a lot to teach the American and Britih public and governments about protesting and monitoring protests?
Has Obama said anything yet, or has he learned to keep his stupid mouth shut?
As the all knowing smartest man in the world learning something new would be impossible.
please no Obama comments & tell him to GTFOH from the White House.
Would it matter if Osama... Obama said something? Would anyone really listen or take him seriously anymore? He's a zero and everyone knows it.
you just insulted all zeroes
Obama should throw his support behind the protesters just to piss off Beijing.
I have a bad feeling about this.
I fear a lot of young people are going to be hurt and killed by the Red army.
I wish them well. May God bring them through this safely.
Yeah, I don't think the PLA is going to allow this "insurrection" to continue, unfortunately.
these mutherfuckers need to go back to work
Don't they know that I'm waiting on my iPhone 6? Screw democracy I need my iPhone!
Maybe we could send Lurch Kerry [who once served in Vietnam] over to "explain things" to both sides and then he could go to the UN and explain how he was for the protests before he was against the protests and how now he's wearing a blue/pink/yellow/green ribbon to show concern and so the problem has been solved.
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Why occupy the streets? Streets are for hoi polloi. Occupy hotel lobbies and high end malls (Four Seasons, Pacific Place), i.e. where the money is. Occupy bank vaults if accessible. These protests are about economic inequality, not democracy. It would be naive to protest for "democracy", as right to vote is not going to change skewed distribution of wealth. Just look at the financial state of the US and A, it's gotten worse under Obummer for the majority of people, by extending Bush' tax cuts to name one failure. Nicely illustrated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTj9AcwkaKM
We should provide arms to the more moderate of the protesters, er, freedom fighters.
Exactly - why haven't we sent lawyers, guns, and money yet?
Does it have something to do with imports from China?
Obama / US media are afraid to make a sound... if Ferguson didn't just happen the US media would be all over the Chinesse police ;)
Anything with an "occupy" label means smelly socialist idiots demanding such things as "change". You see where that gets us.
Are those tripods for watching or "targeting?!"
An American, not US subject.
The HK public are pissed as fark with these mofo students! You would not believe the anger people have with these naive school kids and protestors. They have won the battle but lost the war as they say. Politically the democratic party is finished. Nearly all of the middle class, working class and wealthy are sick and tired of these idiots.!
They cancelled the Oct 1 celebrations and China, etc have cancelled visitor visas to HK, the business owners are going ape shit!
Is Singapore next? How about Dubai or Riyadh? LOL. The real bastions of "Democracy", right? /heavy sarc
Seriously though, when are the "Fuck the EU" Europeans going to have their Spring? Especially, Greece and Spain? Do European men have ANY brains or balls left? Or do they all now have Manginas?
I think they had something similar but it was put down in a big way, plus it was not covered by the presstitutes.
Welcome to Stockholm, the world capitol of Manginas.
Politicians talking freely about how all the worlds problems are white mens fault.
Some guys are so pussyfied it seems they´re even sorry for existing.
However we might se an arabic spring coming up to liberate the muslims from the infidels and merge the country with the califate.
They should just behead these useless secondary school children. Waste of parental time.
You really are a stupid fool.
It's all about money for you, as it is for so many. I do hope your business fails.
European "springs" tend to happen in the middle of winter. Remember '89 ? Some say that temperature (outdoor AND indoor) might have something to do with it...
Try not to loose sight of the beam in thy own eye.
As I've said again and again these western sponsored mofos use DEMOCRACY/FREEDOM only to install chaos, economic collapse, war, bloodshed and strife.!
A dangerous game. They keep gambling they can control the chaos they trigger, like the Rothschilds did when they smuggled Lenin into Russia.
this is a code i brokes it
eye puts der words aboves true my decoding talmudick enigma machines translaturor
and it came out as
lord soros has been intructed by satans henchman rabbi edwyne rothschild.
the mighty red shield instructs the yellow man to back away from weak russia or lose your soft udderbelly of hong kong.
romanian,polish,ukrainian and blackwater nazi snipers are in place for a dum dum bullet double tap head and heart student party init.
wow @tony wilson, one of the few times you make since to me ;-)
and that red star on the building reminds me of Texaco ... hmmm
50% under 25..
Well, the rest are debt slaves and cant afford to lose their jobs.
wait for the holidays!
Speaking of reforms in "Little China"...
The students in Hong Kong would be well served asking about the latest 9/11 chapter so that it never happens in their Country!...
Not a fan of the Chinese or Indian government(s) given their mutual involvement and deals they made with the U.S. government in hauling away the evidence from Ground Zero, so it would be wise to take an official poll to raise the question if they think NYCCAN's proposal for an investigation into the free fall accelerated collapse of the Twin towers and Building 7 in 2009 and then it's latest "High Rise Safety Initiative" 2014 should be placed on New York City's ballot again?...
More importantly the second question should be, why they think being just like America is so important when the Federal Government has twice used outside corporate interests to influence the NYC court system to "shoot it" down yet again?...
Someone out there in Hong Kong that has been tracking this one over the last 5 years, do your stuff!
After all?... "High Rise Safety" isn't just for Americans and America's building(s) alone!
HK Yutes have been totally punked over by Mainland cash flooding across the border and pushing house prices to the stratoshphere from what I read. Leung or whomever was their leader should have stopped this flood of loot long ago. Now he is behind the 8-Ball. If he called in the PLA my guess is that HK would most likely crash and incinerate itself. Forget about Shanghai; if investors back out of HK, you can be sure they ain't going north to Shanghai either. What a dream come true for Switzerland and Singapore! HK is under a microscope now with the entire world watching. I hope they work it out peacefully. HK is [was?] a nice place.
It's funny how these sophisticated societies tend to tear themselves down from corruption, greed and fraud within, as opposed to an external army. Rome, USA and now HK. Greed is such a strong Human trait.
Sad.
Systems: Qualitative &/or Quantitative Analysis
False assumptions begin with the assumption that you know the questions to ask. Free speech is not a Constitutional afterthought, and children are not wired to ask why, by accident. Why should you accept majority jurisdiction?
Freedom of individual thought and resulting action is considered unnecessary, undesirable and dangerous, so it is illegal, sayeth the majority, as its closed system of civil law implodes into arbitrary complexity, measuring itself as GDP. Socialist or Capitalist, the idea is that those who control natural resources and/or capital stock can print their own money and you cannot, that an irrational market outlasts all intelligent investors.
No matter how many deficit and debt prone consumers band together, they cannot produce a surplus, which is why they must hunt you down, while competing for smaller, lower quality tiles, at ever higher prices. My small town teachers never demanded my pledge of allegiance, because it is internally inconsistent, and can only lead to fascism. Back then, Nazi Germany wasn’t something you had to read about in a textbook written by committee.
No matter how much debt the majority prints, it cannot get the Internet to do anything else, surprise, because it is several generations behind the development curve. The not-so-secret to harvesting passion and profit is that laborers, capable of completing the circuit, are few and far between, precisely because the majority seeks a cheap imitation, an arbitrary short cut, which is neither rare nor necessary.
Laborers balance their physical, intellectual and spiritual lives, to seek the unknown, creating wealth in the process, and the only way you can do that is to have children, which is what you were designed to do, whether you choose to believe that God, the planet, the universe, Martians, or anything else initiated the process. Humanism, the idea that a collection of humans can control this planet, or even themselves, is absurd.
DNA is gravitational in that it sets up frequency bandwidths to separate the species, within which each has multiple frequencies available. Charles Manson and crew, Boehner and crew, and Krugman and crew can only assume that everyone else is insane.
Your dream threads are different frequencies in relatively closed loops. Whether your ‘conscious’ state is reality is a matter of debate. Ultimately, the critters fear losing their collectivist conscious precisely because they practice so many. Ever wonder why somebody couldn’t see something in another, when it was obviously normalized?
In a world of preemptive assumption, get them before they get you, preferably without them knowing it, multiple personalities, especially bipolar, is considered an advantage, because it disrupts the thought patterns of others. Divide and conquer for toys can only lead to the Nobel Peace Prize winner to bomb the rest of the world, with children thinking that they are playing a game of drones on a computer anonymously.
The majority of DNA is always dying, slowly or quickly, and a minority is always growing. In a sink or swim world, with the innate ability to tread water, you don’t want to trust the critters on rafts drinking Mai Tais circling the drain, telling you to get in line to make rafts for a living, hoping you will stop their descent.
Only the Edisons are working on Internet developments and their derivatives, and they still don’t understand electricity, because no mythology of feudalism, on a business card or the back of an envelope, gets you there. That oil is going right back into the ground, and Edison needed help getting that light bulb to work.
If you have a choice between quality and quantity, choose quality and you will produce both. The reality for most, following the last herd into History, is quantity at poor quality, the only result of which is bankruptcy. An empire cannot sustain quality of its own volition.
Quality, or qualitative analysis, is the root, or backbone. Quantity, or qualitative analysis, is the branches, or dress. The outcomes, leaves with seeds, are the feedback. All subsystems are closed relative to the supra-systems surrounding them, except those that employ a positive feedback loop as a negative feedback loop, soil and seed, producing an output gap within a double-sided mirror.
The Internet is a magnet, implicitly collecting gravity, in the global port cities where the navies build their primary extortion toll booths. Juveniles, unable to grow their own food and build a generator to complete the circuit, hiding in the basement, playing computer games in their pajamas, waiting for their parents to die, all becoming increasingly irrelevant, anxious and self-destructive by the day, is an outcome.
Empire wipes out the lower middle class, exchanging imported toys for domestic wealth, by dropping relative interest rates for an upper middle class created for the purpose, in artificial demographic cycles until it can’t, ending in fascism. Labor lets it do so, until it reaches the necessary oxygen content to ignite the chain reaction.
Discount that which is in between you and the unknown, to bridge the gap. Life is always and everywhere a test of intent. Good versus evil is beside the point. All governments fail, only to be followed by repeating the false assumption of scale.
You are never going to make the gate building illusions of grandeur with arbitrary knowledge for competitive advantage, instead of building your self, where/when you will find others doing the same. Choose to be effective, unless you have some use for gravity, an increasingly efficient chain of duration mismatches.
Let the feudalists majority fiddle with laws, banks, currency or any other derivative, while the new world order burns, same as the old world order. An empire is a bomb, which destroys itself.
Government has its uses, but raising children isn’t one of them. Only a couple, a man and a woman, wed to the purpose, can sustain production, and the majority destroys itself trying to prove otherwise every time. Feinstein and Boxer intend to burn down what remains of America, but the landlords are going to find out that hell is not labor’s problem, when it’s far too late.
Equality among ignorant, jealous and greedy slaves in a bipolar world is not an economy. Funny, the Internet accelerated the majority’s debt, and you got a free university. That’s life.
In a sink or swim world, with the innate ability to tread water, you don’t want to trust the critters on rafts drinking Mai Tais circling the drain, telling you to get in line to make rafts for a living, hoping you will stop their descent.
That Sir is a truly brilliant analogy.
Wheat and chaff will always separate in the wind.
Kevin, your posts keep triggering a memory of the Fugs, the Swinborne Stomp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdn49CrcPI
I keep imagining if you shortened up your sentences, looked for rhymes and set them against a good background there's a possibility for a real hit here.
What would you call it?
i was doing just that a few years ago, and the kids were making songs out of them...
SOme snipers, like in Kiev, should finish off those CIA soldiers.
Tien An Men II...
The Protestor Students should emigrate to GBR or TWN. All they're going to do is cause more headaches for everyone.
They can't declare Independence, nor can they overthrow Beijing. Everyone knows the Boxer/Opium Drug Traffickers and Money Launderers (e.g, HSBC) are encamped there; and CHN (or most Nation States with Backbones) won't back down to such Cartels.
Gee, merikan students are out prtesting the cancellation of a Beeper concert while these kids are protesting for moar democracy.
My apologies to "repitition" if this has been posted elsewhere.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/hong-kong-protests-mixed-blessing...
i found this to be an interesting read...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-openly-approves-hong-kong-chaos-it-creat...
I really hope someone is telling Xi Jinping the truth about what he's up against.
Sending mongolian troops into the square is not going to work this time round.