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Why Europe's Doomsayers Are Right, In One Chart
To say that Europe is doomed is an understatament, so much so that every European politician, banker, bureaucrat, and bean-counter has, over the past 5 years, taken at least one opportunity to deny and thus validate the statement.
But while there is cornucopia of reasons which foretell the collapse of the artificial monetary and pseudo-political union, whether it is the relentless deterioration in European output:
or the collapse in private lending, something the ECB is supposedly trying to fix with its latest TLTRO/Private QE...
or the mountain of private debt created since the Great financial crisis.
Eclipsed only by the amount of public debt created in the same period...
... one thing is clear: Europe is finished, though not for any of the above reasons but for a far more simple one, a reason very well-known to the Japanese - there simply won't be any Europeans left.
In retrospect perhaps it is time for Wolfi Schauble to take a stab at draft 2 of his famous FT scribe: "Ignore the doomsayers: Europe is being fixed," because, we are sad to report, the doomsayers are right: Europe is finished.
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sadly, that's all that's coming.
Ok Ghordo, lets seem some of your charts as to why its the greatest thing ever ever ever.
That chart reminds me of the outline for the Matterhorn. What a ride! And it's all downhill !!!
I was thinking it looks like the line image ads used of Pão de Açucar in Rio.
Ghordo is busy with the sheep right now.
TBF - He is a super intelligent guy.
Thus, his undevoted loyalty makes me think he is personally connected with the "expirment."
His English mistakes give him away as a native German speaker, and he has said he is "Austrian" yet he can also get around pretty well with Italian as well.
He is mid 40s at a minimum, and is clearly located + or - 2 hours of 0:00 unless he is a crazy morning person. He has a grasp of econ pretty well, and is a AG/AU bug.
Ghordo is no sheeple. He fully understands all the flaws of the EMZ and the EU and sticks by them none-the-less. He is educated but chooses this path. I remember in the summer of 2012, he was telling all of us to calm down the EUR is going no where, and he was early and 100% accurate with all of his predictions at that time.
I believe him to be working either at the Swiss Central Bank, in Lichtenstein, or at the Austrian Desk at the ECB here in FFM. He has good inside info, and if you ran with his suggestions a couple years back you would have made a ton of money. I am quite sure leaking ECB talking points into ZH is not ECB (nor SNB) policy, and thus, I think he comes here for the intellectual challange, or in the alternative, he is the best troll I have ever encountered on the internet. I think he spent some of his other time at the Telegraph's Disqus blow moon-lighting as this person "Shakespear" as their English mistakes are almost identical, and their arguments were.
ZH is one of the only websites where the comments section can contain better info than the article itself. Perhaps he is a plant here to see and to fight with, admittadly, the group of people who have the best/most logical arguments on the net against the EMZ. Its a good way to get ahead of the anti-EU curve. He also knows 1 may more of the Tylers, and it would not surprise me at all if he is a Tyler himself.
That being said -- I think his dilusion with the EMZ is totally misguided.
That is some pro-level man crush you have.
I never trust charts that forecast 20 years to the future
The population charts all have inflection points in the future. What's up with that?
Dunno what nationality he is but he almost certainly works in Brussels or Strasbourg.
"In retrospect perhaps it is time for Wolfi Schauble to take a stab at draft 2 of his famous FT scribe: "Ignore the doomsayers: Europe is being fixed,"
"When it's important one has to lie"
Juncker said that. The new boss of the EU
That's who I was referencing......for the sarc, of course. ;)
Go Greece! They especially seem to have things under control.
(Is that a big enough lie? Or does size not matter?)
No worries, with escape velocity in play we will escape the affect of the European recession.
Birth control = the death of Western Civilization.
What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea.
Mahatma Gandhi
Said Mahatma Gandhi.....as he sat in a street covered in shit and garbage with rats running about his feet and starving deliberately crippled children begging everywhere. Time for Westerners to get away from this self hate. We're the only who suffer from the complex.
Which is of course why, the Kenyesian madmen will "import" tens of millions of fresh bodies from arond the world to fill the gaps!!
This policy is already blowing up in the Euro zone, and will also be met in America with massive blowback and cultural strife, but who cares, we showed in Iraq, that if you just dump enough money, guns, and voting machines into a situation, people will all just comply and play nice with each other for the sake of democracy and freedom.............
oh wait?
Lack of Birth Control in non-Western countries = Death of Western Civilization, and maybe the Planet
"Demographic Warfare is Warfare by Other Means", bitchez. Muslims know this, Jews know this, the Chinese know this and Russians know this. But good luck explaining this to the 'Christian' Libtards or secular Demoncrats.
We've been propping them up and and feeding them for decades and it's time to stop. The feel good insanity is making things worse and we're in the process of doing it again.
Are you conceding that the fundie Christians have a point?
i don't consider myself a democrat or left leaning. but i wouldn't bring a child into this world...unless i was really fucking rich.
"Birth control = the death of Western Civilization."
Feminism is the death of western civilization. No one wants to breed with those man hating she-males. We are dumb enough to listen to them though.
Long dildo's???
Pardon the pun...
"Feminism is the death of western civilization."
That deserves about a hundred up arrows. Just about all socialist thought is the same as lesbian thought.
"Lack of Birth Control in non-Western countries = Death of Western Civilization, and maybe the Planet"
Sounds like you are saying that "non-Western" (would have gone with "unwhite", personally :D) countries are #winning with high growth rates? Endless growth is unsustainable in demographics and economics. Birth control is necessary. Furthermore, your examples for non-western demographic warriors suck:
Muslims--Yes most predominantly Muslim countries have a high birth rate--and these countries are almost universally fucked for it. You can trace the Arab Spring back to the large "youth bulge" in the demographics of those countries. People have been predicted economic and social collapse there for a decade because all you have to do is look and see that there won't be any jobs for the many results of the Arab babymaking spree of the 1990's. Countries with too many young people end up looking like shitholes. I'm surprised you didn't mention India. They are winning the demographic game big time. Look at their sacred river. They know it's all good as long as they reproduce faster than the West...er no.
Jews--Not that many Jews, really. Hm. Maybe you mean Israel, who is endlessly expanding/expropriating (choose your narrative) lands that are held by their enemies. Oh yeah, their entire country is a desert. Be fruitful and multiply. I'm sure it will end well.
China--Laughable. Birth control is readily available. They probably perform more abortions a year than the rest of the world combined. There was that whole policy about the one kid you might have heard of from a while back as well. And look, they are still winning the demographic race. Just tell that to the bare branches. Pretty soon they take over chinesedate.com and leave rubble.
Russians--You're just making shit up.
Machines will soon be doing most work anyways, so as a society, we are more expendable than ever as far as the squid is concerned. All we can do is rise up and kill the masters, so I'd bet on a de-population event, if that is not happening already in Africa (ooh high birth rates there too, that shit is going great!).
On a personal note, since apparently it's story time, I very much like easy and available birth control. I'm sure you're a real wizard with the old dipstick, James, and would never make a baby by accident...but do you really want the chance of offspring with the lowest common denominator of your conquests? I sure as hell don't. They should be handing condoms out anywhere that sells alcohol as a public service.
But go ahead, have 50 kids if you can get away with it. You'll just end up broke and probably crazy.
"Birth control = the death of Western Civilization."
More to the point......birth control was all about greed. It meant both woman and men could SPEND LESS money thus keeping more for themselves and not spending it on a kid(s) and in particular helping women get into the workplace more often and staying there so to climb the corporate ladder.....to get even MOAR money.
It wasn't about saving the planet or over population. It was all about the Mo' NAY !
But what else was a couple to do when the government continued to take more and more of their paychecks. During the last baby-boom it was possible for a man's salary alone to buy food and pay the mortgage. Women initially brought extra money into the household. The government got greedy and started taking so much that now people can't afford to have kids, and business up and left.
They knew what would happen. Europe has been imploding longer than the US. Treason???
Ebworthen
Add to that the promotion of the GLT agenda by government and media/ entertaiment complex and you have a population drop off chart that looks like the Mt Everest such as the on above. One question though, does that chart include the interlopers in Europe from the southern hemisphere or is that for indigenous Europeans only?
The sky really isn't falling. Imagine that.
Birth control = the death of Western Civilization.
Birth Control, NWO, Ebola, the plague, war, famine = the death of Western Civilization.
I think we have reached peak Western Civilization.
The trend to decentralisation will continue apace. That isn't what worries me. What worries me is the extremes to which those who assume themselves to be 'in power' will go in order to try and foolishly prevent the inevitable.
Europeans have "Ukraine" unlike Japan. I think Putin humorously calls them "colonists" actually. Of course no matter how weak the euro...the ruble will always be weaker.
I assume they will be speaking English...who knows though. Probably many languages to "suit the mood."
How many kids do Ukie women pop out on average?
Thanks the George Soros' birth control and free abortion initiatives in Ukraine (and the region generally) it's probably about 1.3 per woman. The old demon must be thrilled.
Europeans are old hands at this depopulation business .
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2007/10/near-tech.html
Please add a graph on reproduction amongst the free shit armies.
Not enough room on the screen!
LOL
That makes Europe even more attractive. Let's just hope the political dumbclass is not trying to "fix" this problem with more unhinged immigration from every shithole on the planet. Also put foreign ownership restrictions on the Chinese to keep them outside a little longer.
Let's have this same population forecast for the US and Canada
White parts of the population go down further. The increase in population from Latin America, India, China will outnumber everybody else. Not to forget Latisha and her 12 kids from different Dads who are all in prison.
See, when you put it into this context the path that Europe is on is alot more attractive. The US needs to keep stirring the pot in the ME so that all the UK etc homegrown jihadists just want to go and die there.
Problem solved. It's a beautiful world again once the shit is cleared up.
Let's just hope the political dumbclass is not trying to "fix" this problem with more unhinged immigration from every shithole on the planet.
But that's exactly what they're doing. And I suspect they know damn well they're not 'fixing' the problem.
They can't possibly like the socio economic problems their immigration policies have created. They see what is going on and their families are being exposed to this well. Refugees are a burden on the system. There's no net benefit unless the Finance ministers are able to create more debt with the refugee collateral. But then they might as well create debt from cats and dogs. What's the difference? They're just as unproductive.
Walküre
It would be more preferable to create debt from cats and dogs. At least they wouldn't rape and beat up women like the trash from Africa and ME do for sport in EU countries.
Of course they know what the 'refugees' are like and their impact on society. Sweden has gone, in less than a single generation, from a state where rape was almost unknown to being the rape capital of Europe. Yet their Prime Minister has openly stated that he wants to increase the numbers of these immigrants and for the tradititional meaning of 'Swedish' to degenerate into a polyglot Nordic/African/ME mish mash.
Note: He got re-elected.
Darwin and his disciple Sir Arthur Keith were right. The first imperative of survival is that the group or race must keep its cradle full.
All successful groups and races have an internal group moral code directed to that one essential mission, and any slackening of that code will lead to invasion by competing groups and races who do keep their cradles full.
Europe is indeed finished at least until a sturdy remnant of the indigenous European population rediscovers its ancient roots and individuals begin to sacrifice for the good of (and survival of) the race.
You are absolutely correct. And that is why it has been the focus of relentless attack (feminism, abortion, no-fault divorce, women in the workplace, state as surrogate father etc.) by those who are destroying us.
exactly correct!
Indeed he is.
Nature abhores a vacuum.
Currently The palesitinian state has the highest birthrate in the world.
The other top four are also predominantly muzlim populations.
Darwins rule "those that breed... succeed"
the reason i won't bring a child into this world is because i'm pretty sure i would love him or her...and would agonize over the pain and suffering i caused my progeny because i'm not ultra fucking rich. this planet is rigged, as it always has been, by those who have been able to, *MOSTLY* by luck, their descendants, and psychosis to gain money & thus power a result - and usually at the expense of their 'fellow' man. we're just living in a fancy form of feudalism and power by 'divine' right. we just replaced divine right with money. so you can rail against feminism, abortion, no-fault divorce, etc...all you want. but those ARE NOT the reasons people aren't having children - at least, if they've got half a fucking brain and half a fucking heart. read up on infants being left in fields to die by peasants....
Ok, I'll make the sacrifice and bite the bullet. Any fertile babes on ZH here in EU needing a procreation partner, i'll rise the the challenge and do my duty. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do............
The Muslims are birthing quite well...they will take over very soon...the Italian women do not even want a man.....they are toast...
Population declines are caused by easy access to porn. We all know it. No one wants to admit it. All those Muslims need is a good internet connection.
Time and again....suveys show that Muslims are HUGE porn viewers. There just more quiet about it.
After all......their "prophet" was a pedophile.
Yeah, and its not normal porn either. Goat porn, camel porn. And the US Army has infrared video to prove they practice it, too.
Google it.
So...women are more sexually inhibited now?
This fiat system has un-manned the men.
"there simply won't be any Europeans left"
Hey, what's the problem? We have millions and millions of sociable and highly productive enrichers from Somalia, Nigeria, Afghanistan etc. WHat's there to worry about? I confidently look forward to young Mohammed cheerfully looking after me in my old age.
Muslims wives lay down when hubbie sayes so, i don't have to try that with my European wife.
anyone hoo has spent all of 15 minutes on problem knows there is only two possible outcomes
1) breakup of euro
2) usd = euro
everything else is wasted breath/energy
You should consider the far likelier outcome: The USD, EUR, JPY and GBP will all switch to the SDR.
Given that IMF's SDR already exists and is made up of these 4 currencies, it is no coincidence that these 4 currencies are inflating away in perfect tandem and synchronization -- seeing that they will all self-flush down the drain at a predetermined time and trigger-event.
After this deliberate RESET, all its member countries will simply blame it on the combined power of the other member (a collective circular blame game), for Domestic Public Consumption and as a pretext to enact draconian measures on its Sheeple.
This "Club Fed" will use its CBs and the IMF+BIS to impose the SDR as the new GRC (in place of the USD), but likely will not succeed. It cannot be allowed to succeed because (1) it is "The Mother of all Fiat Currency Systems", and (2) the BRICS+ want an independent system that's anchored to Preciousl Assets (PM + Carbon-fuels) owned by its Members. They would have to weaken the BRICS currencies and those of its most promising allies. If the BRICS & Friends (BRICS+) stand strong, they can either prevent the "Rise of the Bankster SDR", or set up a parallel system - which the Banksters would hate enough to start WW3.
ALL wars are Global Bankster wars. Note that we already have WW3 -- peace-meal -- as the Pope has recently stated.
gosh, enough with all this SDR nonsense on ZH
first -
"it is no coincidence that these 4 currencies are inflating away in perfect tandem and synchronization"
$US is kicking azz ... highest in years
second - only $316 billion TOTAL SDRs ... not even a drop in bucket re global trade
third - "The SDR is neither a currency, nor a claim on the IMF. Rather, it is a potential claim on the freely usable currencies of IMF members."
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.htm
"The SDR is neither a currency, nor a claim on the IMF. Rather, it is a potential claim on the freely usable currencies of IMF members."
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Import children, or child-producing women. That's what we do in the US.
Damn.....we're EXPORTING MANUFACTURING jobs that should be done here by us AAAAND we're IMPORTING MANUFACTURING jobs that should be done here....by us.
Can't win for losing.
SR
That's already being done for you as we type. It's called your replacement.
Europe´s population have been fluctuating for millenias. What´s the news here?
The Black plague does not count
A simple solution : ban cellphones and emails.
Why?
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2009/05/cellphones-and-hierarchies.html. For intriguing reasons , the economy will improve and with it the birthrate .
Besides , without cellphones there will be more time for dalliance in the flesh
Well, greece looks messed up, but rest of europe seem ok from above charts...but then that's always been the case hasnt it?
Cut to the bottom line...
Mankind is finished.
The only way out, humans refuse to take. The way out? Get real. Reject ALL fictions. See, told ya, nobody is willing to grow up (intellectually), get real, and stop pretending.
Tyler, you mean we could fuck ourselves out of this mess??? This is good news! More Babies = more tax payers! More productive work force!
Let's get down to business....
this is one of the few times o'bamas lips moved, and he wasn't lying.
i'm going to fundamentally change america.
who'd of thought he'd advertise world-wide a free life-time paid vacation in america, if you could obtain a visa, or crawl across the souther border.
i think i read there's 90,000,000 people of working age in america that are unemployed, probably at least half of them are enjoying their own life-time paid vaction.
thats when i pretty much quit reading politics, neither side was completly against this flood of illegals for political reasons.
immagration the last 6 yrs. was in absolutly no way advantagous to america, and it's just the opposite, a furtherence of the destruction of america, (a fundamental change).
Keep an eye on Italy, it is the third largest economy of the Euro-zone after Germany and France, unfortunately it holds the largest public debt totaling over 2 trillion euro. This debt has been growing at an astonishing pace, even in more recent times and particularly as a ratio to GDP. The fact that the GDP is contracting has exacerbated the problem.
This is not sustainable and the country is held together only because of the direct intervention of the ECB which made over 102 billion euro of Italian bond purchases in 2011-2012 alone. This has continued since then and the sum has gotten much larger. Only through the LTRO can the finances of the Italian state be kept afloat. For more on how government debt has made Italy the Achilles heel of Europe see the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/italy-achilles-heel-of-europe.htm...