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Contained? Dallas Hospital Discharged Sick Ebola Patient 2 Days Before Isolation
While yesterday's CDC press conference was factual, it was clearly very much designed to avoid panic as time and again the US public was reassured that Ebola in America was 'contained', 'hard to contract', and would 'stop here'. However, as Bloomberg reports, the man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics after seeking treatment for an unknown illness, officials said. We know CDC has stated the need for the US to be prepared but the fact that after the patient sought medical care on Sept. 26 and was sent home with antibiotics, he returned in an ambulance to Texas Health Presbyterian two days later and was admitted, suggests US healthcare workers are not prepared for the possibilities that Ebola is here in America (as this is the 13th possible case in the US).
A man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics after seeking treatment for an unknown illness, officials said.
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The man is being kept in isolation in an intensive care unit. He had no symptoms when he left Liberia and began to show signs of the disease on Sept. 24, the CDC said. He sought care on Sept. 26, was hospitalized two days later at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and is critically ill, said CDC Director Thomas Frieden.
Do not worry though...
“There is no doubt in my mind that we will stop it here,” Frieden said at a press conference in Atlanta.
The man was traveling to the U.S. to visit family and was staying with them. He was exposed to only a “handful” of people during the time when he had symptoms, including family members and possibly some community members, according to Frieden, who said there was little risk to anyone on his flight.
“Ebola doesn’t spread before someone gets sick, and he didn’t get sick until four days until after he got off the airplane,” Frieden said. “So we don’t believe there was any risk to anyone on the flight at that time.”
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“It’s not a potential of Ebola spreading widely in the U.S.,” Frieden said on a July 31 conference call with reporters. “That is not in the cards.”
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“There shouldn’t be any new infections from this point on,” Osterholm said. “We are going to shut this down.”
Finally...
Another suspected Ebola case is being evaluated at a National Institutes of Health facility, U.S. officials said, the 13th such possible infection in the U.S. All others have tested negative.
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Like I said yesterday...do not go to any hooker joints in Dallas..
the man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics
Antibiotics.....for a virus? Yup...we have the finest doctors in the world.
Keep your infrcted friends close, etc.
Chris Matthews: 'Obama Said It Was Unlikely. It Has Happened. It's Here'...
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuL2QwsNeM8
DONT PANIC !!!!!
I'm still just trying to figure out how you can award a patent for nature.
Future headline on Marketwatch:
"Ebola wipes out 80% of US Population: What Stocks to Buy NOW"
Duh... STOP The Fucking Flights From WESt Africa ???
Duh Duh Duh...
God blessed America, but only after flushing away the disease.
Those dudes that picked him up in the ambulance must be feeling a little underpaid right about now.
Yes.
I'm a paramedic and the wife is a nurse.
Sadly, I gotta tell you guys that it is only in the last 3 days or so that the field personnel are seriously starting to question why we aren't gearing up for the possibility of this thing going sideways.
As far as people in an administrative capacity are concerned, they've had a few conference calls and received a few memos ...... and that's it.
The field guys are taking it upon themselves to get educated and prepare as best as we're able because it seems obvious that while concerned, they aren't taking it as seriously as they should.
Well fuck that. We're the first ones that die from this kinda shit.
You can pretty much guarantee that your EMS systems will get wiped out in the first waves of "expirations."
Dallas Ebola Victim Likely Acquired His Infection During Flight -YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_jvTSNvxo
10 hours ago - 3 min - Uploaded by polyglot
Check out CDC timeline for median time first symptoms appear 5.5 days from time of contraction of Ebola virus.
Do the math given the time of the Dallas patient's flight itinerary from Africa to U.S., and presentation of first symptoms.
This guy in video uses timeline & CDC's own data to demonstrate greater than 50% likelihood Dallas Ebola patient was infected during flight to U.S., meaning there is at least one more (and likely more than one more - given 17 1/2 hour flight) infected person on flight.
I'm a volunteer fireman. I don't think I'm going to volunteer for this one.
Can't stop the flights from Africa for the same reason we(the U.S.) can't secure our southern border - it would be racist.
Forward (over the cliff)!
Unsurprisingly its almost impossible to travel direct from Roberts Int (Liberia) to the US, if he booked hacker fares it might not have been obvious to the border staff that he'd travelled from Africa, it was just another guy coming in from Brussels (which seems to be the most common interchange point between the US and Roberts).
How anyone can believe that a guy that became so ill he felt he needed hospital treatment, couldn't have been mildly infectious a few days before when passing through somewhere in the East is unbelievable. He might not have been but for the CDC to rule it out completely is total bollocks.
And if they flew from Africa to Europe and then the US? Guess we should stop all flights from everywhere then
Ponder this for a moment, Bear in mind how many flights that same jet has taken since then with people on board now potentially infected. Do the math. Chilling.
Yeah or maybe the rest of the world can just quarantine west Africa (probably should have done it a while ago)
Thanks. I needed a laugh this morning.
And they can report an improving employment outlook due to all the "shovel ready" jobs.
Duh... STOP The Fucking Flights From WESt Africa ???
Here is the asshat responsible for making that happen; well, him and Putter.
https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=tvwrVPngMcOAygTRjYDIAw&ved=0CAQQ1...
Stop the flights from West Africa????
TOO LATE NOW...we gotta stop ALL FLIGHTS from Dallas-Fort Worth
Btw, like the other poster said above....We be all dead after Ebola outbreak here and the Federal Reserve will still be around touting Employment targets as the primary mandate.
Put them on a Malaysian Air flight. Problem solved.
"Flight MH-666 boarding now"
Heading straight into the Bermuda triangle.
A falling population will make the unemployment rate fall even further.
End The Fed had an interesting comment under last night's Ebola story. ETF claims there is a 50% chance that the Dallas ebola guy contracted the disease on the plane. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-us#comment-5274018 It's certainly possible under the WHO's timeline. The CDC's statement that it's contained smacks much more of PR spin that an honest assessment of the situation.
My bet is that he realized he had been exposed while in West Africa and immediately decided to get his ass to the states to seek medical treatment as soon as symptoms appeared and confirmed he had the disease, because he knew he would get better care and a better chance to survive here. If true, there might be many similar cases of Ebola infected individuals flying out of Africa in the next few weeks, as there are clearly insufficient health facilities there to provide even minimal supportive care. I mean think about it, if you lived there you would probably be seriously considering leaving, right?
Bingo!
See above comment - just to make it convenient, here it is again (based upon analysis of CDC's own data, timeline between median infection point and 1st presentstion of symptom, etc.) - *editorial (mine) - Press conference yesterday was absolutely PR attempt to quash concern (rational concern) and verifiably inaccurate information/statements were disseminated/made.
Dallas Ebola Victim Likely Acquired His Infection During Flight -YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_jvTSNvxo
10 hours ago - 3 min - Uploaded by polyglot
Check out CDC timeline for median time first symptoms appear 5.5 days from time of contraction of Ebola virus.
Do the math given the time of the Dallas patient's flight itinerary from Africa to U.S., and presentation of first symptoms.
This guy in video uses timeline & CDC's own data (median 5.5 day period between contraction & 1 st symptoms) demonstrate greater than 50% likelihood Dallas Ebola patient was infected during flight to U.S., meaning there is at least one more (and likely more than one more - given 17 1/2 hour flight) infected person on flight.
And think about this; assuming CDC could successfully track each possible person exposed to "Patient Dallas," it takes quarantine room & average of 25 properly (standard of care & containment) vetted health workers to monitor, treat and/or keep person isolated.
1) Assuming "Dallas Patient" is not patient zero on flight, CDC hasn't tracked Patient Zero (or admitted it).
2) Median delay between contraction of Ebola virus and onset of symptoms is 5 1/2 delays; this can range all the way to 21 days. Theoretically, Patient Zero could display symptoms well after "Dallas Patient" has/did.
3) Close contact sufficient to transmit Ebola Virus is a 3 foot diameter, and chances of transmission with that proximity or closer increase statistically with time. Flight on commercial airliner from Africa to U.S. Is close to 20 hours without any stop-overs.
If I lived in WA (as I did many years ago) I can tell you that I would have been outtathere 6 months ago. Anyone who has ever lived in Africa knows that it is 100% impossible not to exchange body fluids with hundreds of people a day just walking down the street. Worse than anything anyone ever encountered on the NYC subway at rush hour.
I was agreeing with this until a couple minutes ago when I remembered something.
Have you ever known anyone that has tried to get a tourist visa to the USA? That's just not something you can pick up in 24 hours or less.
Guy flew in on an airline to the USA (legal immigration / tourist visa usage) he had to have had that tripped planned for a long time.
next you will want the US government to declare a war on water ....
So in watching the CDC press conference and Dallas coverage yesterday, two completely bullshit PR elements jumped out at me, which cues me that the .gov is going to do what I feared they would all the way to the end of this, lie their asses off!!
The first was this bullshit analogy to the flu, they keep making mention as do others, to the flu!! That's just bullshit, nobody panic, keep buying stocks fantasy talk!! The flu kills about 10-25k people yearly, but has a mortality rate of less then 1% AND the deaths are usually people who have serious medical problems already, heart diesese, etc. Ebola has 80-90% death rate! and affects healthy people of all ages!!
NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING!!
Second, doctor after doctor said, "it was hard to get"????!!!!!! Are you serious?? Totally disingenuous and utter non sense, just watch how the doctor act, not what they say, to decide if that's true or not!!
I think we are in for some real trouble on this one!
Nothing natural about ebola, it was certainly created in a lab. CDC was first to the trough and secured the patent. Many Africans are waking up and realize they have been used as guinea pigs. Guinea pigs (ha)!
it seem there always the guinea pigs it look like aka AIDS/HIV etc
It's all to natural, it comes from starving people who eat monkey's and then contract the fatal bug. At the same time we (promise) to eliminate hunger by 2030, when we already failed at that same thing in the hear and now. Humans are doomed without a higher power.
They need to change the plaque on the Statue of Liberty to read:
"Give me your sick, AIDS-infected, ebola carrying huddled masses yearning to breathe free their contagion on our teeming shore.
Send these, the infirm, plague-tost to me. I lift my syringe beside the quarantine door."
That sums up our country these days.
"That sums up our country these days."
If by "our" you're referring to the drooling Fox News watchers trembling in their crocs because one person out of 313 million is sick with a virus that to date has killed less people than a summer flu strain ... you'd be right.
Fucking pathetic.
It's not a virus I fear CJ. It's the virus-wielding new world order psychopaths who seem to vehemently yearn for a million or so indiscriminate deaths. (I don't fear guns either. But I'd sure as hell pay attention if some criminal thug was lurking around my neighborhood, gripping something pistol-like, hidden inside his jacket.)
It's just one of many potential false flags for TPTB to blame when what they've created in terms of a counterfiat (mispelling intended) global economy reaps what they've sown. Hopefully the kids in Hong Kong get it right and go after the banksters first, as eliminating the politicians will be no problem, relatively speaking.
You have a very poor grasp of exponents, don't you? Is it because you are as contemptuous of math as you are of people who don't share your delusional leftist views?
Not really ... it's because I've spent a decade in Africa (much of it Senegal and the Gambia) and understand that epidemics of this nature are harder to contain in 3rd world countries.
Reality is that most of the posters here would feel like death after one glass of water served at a hotel in most of the countries effected by this virus.
Yeah its killed fewer people than cars/flu/maleria, but its growth is and potential to become a historic event is far worse.
The saving grace is that developed African nations like Nigeria seem to be doing a better job of containment than the more typical poverty stricken ones. However, winter is coming to the northern hemisphere and we tend to enclose ourselves more, so the odd case that makes it to the developed world will spread faster (like a cold) as the temperatures drop.
Nigeria is a developed nation?
Wow, I learn something new every day!
/sarc
I agree with the gist of your sentiment.
I am a skeptic about ebola. I know very little about the alleged science behind it and I frankly do not care.
As a gambler, I put half of my money on ebola not even existing and the other half of my money on it being an evil stunt. By evil stunt, I mean that sheeple with regular colds or sniffles are falsely diagnosed with "ebola-like symptoms" and then are deliberately infected after they are trapped in quarantine. The intention of such a stunt is that if the disease does not spread, at least mass hysteria and fear will spread. The evil PTB are gamblers too.
I take a few steps back and ask myself: "Why the hell are they reporting this?"
If there truly is a spread, then Youtubers and FaceBookers will let everybody know right away.
Gosh, they are acting like they WANT this thing to spread.
They do!
Watch this Ebola case be quickly turned into a racial issue along with how Obamacare is the only thing that can stop it.
Ebola for President!
nah, Obola sent 3000 troops to stop it....hahahaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaa, no wait.
How do troops stop Ebola? Silver bullets.
The initial symptoms are merely flu-like and can not be distinguished from the flu. That's why they sent him home. Where they really screwed up is they either didn't know or didn't care that he had recently come from West Africa, as that combined with flu like symptoms should have set off some alarm bells immediately.
Chris Matthews? LOL.
I used to think he was a 'smart' guy. Boy, was I wrong! I now see him for the dumb-ass but charming clown that he is. The whole MSM lot makes me want to puke.
Charming? About as charming as a genital wart.
Keep your infrcted friends close, etc.
Chris Matthews: 'Obama Said It Was Unlikely. It Has Happened. It's Here'...
Hey Chris.....that tingle down your leg may not be what you think it is anymore.
THIS EBOLA ACTION IS PURPOSEFUL...
IT IS NOT CONTAINED
To take American citizen's minds off of CIA/MIC Foreign Military Actions incl...
....DESPERATE GOVERNMENTS ON THE MOVE...
USSA bombing Syria at Will
Russia building Missile defence along its Southern Borders
Turkey Military build up on Syrian border
CIA induced Hong Kong protests
Japan HFT Fat Finger
Drahgi/Germany? to buy Greek & Cypriot Junk Bonds,
JUST THE BEGINNING FOLKS
It's like drowning in this highly anticipated "information age", overwhelming it with utter bullshit where all one's time is spent trying to keep up and seperate the wheat from the chaff, the real from the BS.
I'm really considering a pull back -- a purposeful decision to not pay it any attention. Better things to do than attempt to sort through the lies as there appears to be no accountability nor consequences for those pumping out the utter bullshit.
What's the over/under of the number of surgical masks I'll see Friday on my trip to New Orleans via Newark Intl.?
All the fight crew for sure.
The sheeps, not so much.
I've been to New Orleans and West Africa, can't really tell the difference to be honest...well. West Africa is a much safer place.
Smoke a bunch of weed so your eyes are bloodshot as hell, then cough and sneeze the whole way, distributing wet tissues liberally, and you should be able to increase the number of surgical masks significantly.
Wish I had the secret ZH code to post a pic...
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/b0/b0f50f113ad97ce42b76fb5a48a7b8a9ea2d76d26f...
If you are .gov and need to fix medicare, social security, medicaid and slew of programs you clearly have to reform the system without being blamed for ruining them......EBOLA
No need to worry folks. The government will immediately inform us if there's ever an outbreak.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional/worst-tb-outbreaki...
"Antibiotics.....for a virus? Yup...we have the finest doctors in the world."
Hang on.....I certainly do not look at our doctors and medical practitioners as some sort of demi-gods.....but even if they know that someone has a virus ( forget for the moment Ebola) they will normally issue antibiotics because a viral infection usually leads to a secondary bacteriological infection. Can't do much about the virus unless you have been vaccinated before.....but we can usually take care of the bacteria.
That said.....yeah......the optics of this are NOT good. Much less the fact that we not only let this guy in from a known Ebola hot spot....but even after going to the hospital no one detained him based on where he came from.
It was real simple.....
"Mr. (X)....let me get some information from you. Do you have insurance? Date of birth ? Nationality ? I.D. Passport ? Oh I see you came from Liberia. Are you from there or just visiting ? Were you around anyone during your time in Liberia that was suspected or known to be infected with Ebola ?
I'm sorry....but based on this information and the fact you are sick and we don't know what is making you sick we are going to have to put you in isolation and run further tests until we find out what it is that is ailing you."
And right at the second, you notify everyone around you, staff, management, and make the call to the CDC in Atlanta. And you put yourself in isolation. PERIOD.....END OF STORY.
This is complete and utter BULLSHIT ! Our government is completely incompetent in this matter.....but OBAMA and his politcially correct, open borders stance makes it 1,000,000 X worse. He will kill this country if he is not stopped.
Actually, no, it doesn't. Viruses very rarely lead to secondary infections, e.g. a cold leading to bacterial pneunomia is exceedingly rare. Left to themselves the vast majority of people will get over a cold or flu all on their own. No Tylenol required.
The original poster was right - doctors are trigger-happy on the ol' antibiotics because generally speaking doctors are not healers, they are drug and surgery salesmen.
Overprescription of antibiotics and overuse in agriculture is already leading to big problems with drug-resistant bugs. Thousands a year die in American hospitals because of these newly evolved superbugs and 100k+ are infected with them every year in U.S. hospitals.
Actually, no, it doesn't. Viruses very rarely lead to secondary infections, e.g. a cold leading to bacterial pneunomia is exceedingly rare.
You must not have kids. I have 5. A cold virus causes inflamation of the nasal lining. Blowing one's nose exacerbates that....much less the scraping of your nose by tissue. Those little tears allow bacteria to invade and replicate. Nasal drainage irritates the back of your throat, and coughing only exacerbates that by causing small tears in the lining. Once again.....small tears in the skin and blood vessels are an open door invitation to bacteria. Mucous build up in the lungs creates a warm, wet environment that is great for bacteria to live and replicate. Now you've got bronchitis along with your cold virus......or worse.....bacterialogical pnuemonia. That's if that wasn't from the viral pnuemonia in the first place.
Out of 7 billion people on the planet.....rare is a "relative" thing. Plus....the numbers are wrong simply because of the reporting of the correlation and causation numbers. It's easy to give antibiotics simply because you know the truth already and there is no need to track it. Virri are a GREAT way to introduce secondary bacterialogical infections.
But I would agree.....doctors are too quick to dole out antibiotics. There is a reason why we have an immune system. And most of the time it gets strengthen by being activated by the body itself.....not boosted by antibiotics. Kind of like natural exercise vs. steroids.
Jumbotron,
Dinged ya.
Gubmint is anything but incompetetent.
This was calculated with precision for maximum fear and death toll.
No other way to offset unfunded promises & financial collapse.
I upvoted you just for your honesty.....even though you dinged me.
I have no doubt that government is malevolent. Too much past and present evidence to deny that. However....I think that it is a VERY small core of most of the people in government. The rest are well meaning......but ENTIRELY incompetant.
What's my proof? Governement and the politicians all came from us. We "the people" formed the Constitution and the Government. And we supply and re-supply every 2-4 years the government from.....us.
We were so incompetent in England that the Founding Fathers had to draft a Constitution along with a Bill of Rights so no one could ever claim either ignorance of what freedom and good governance could be.....or deny outright intent to destroy it. But we are so incompetent as a people....as a nation.....we couldn't safeguard it from ourselves. Meaning the government....."Of the people.....BY the people.....FOR the people"
I have seen the enemy....and he is us.
So....you may be right. But I could be just as right. Which means.....we have a government at war with itself. The calculated, evil core on the one side with well meaning but incompetent members on the other side ignorant of what the evil side is doing.
I believe that is the case.....and it's even worse for us if true than a completely evil government.
Centralization & the compartmentalization need to know keep the layers of the hierarchy in the dark. I've watched it in corporate & the military.
We're both right.
Airlines are scrambline to find out where Patient X went and with whom
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2776786/U-S-airlines-contact-gov...
What could go wrong?
We survived Foot and mouth.
We survived Mad cow.
We survived Bird flu.
Im sure we can survive this e-bola bay.
Survival of the fittest bitchezz!
So have the answered how this man got to Dallas from Liberia yet?
"The patient, whom officials would not identify, flew to the United States on Sept. 20, and began feeling ill on Sept. 24, Frieden said."
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/09/30/6162320/cdc-team-mobilizing-to-c...
I want to know how he was infected and whether or not he knew he'd been exposed to the virus before he got on the plane.
That's a good point. They're saying Ebola can only be passed from person to person through body fluids, but did this infected person do anything that couldn't be considered normal everyday human interaction before arriving?
That's possible and a likely scenario at some point in this epidemic, but even if the exposure was unintentional, did he get on the plane and come to the US because he'd been exposed? The hospital in Dallas handled this so badly, I can see our healthcare system easily becoming overwhelmed if this virus should spread or if Ebola tourists continue to reach the US.
"Ebola tourists". That may - in time - become one of the most hideous - yet accurate - examples of black humor in this ongoing tragedy.
And I want to know his name and address. But that ain't happening either.
You gonna send flowers or call in the airstrike?
" I say we nuke it from orbit.....it's the only way to be sure."
These people think he may have gottent it on the plane;
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2014/09/maximum-alert-dallas-ebola-...
Liberian news has been screaming over the airlifts of American ebola patients to the US for treatment. So discriminatory! How dare we treat our own with our resources, while the African cesspool and the lack of ability to create a functioning country that isn't one giant sluice pipe of theft of public monies into private coffers remains one giant fail.
The smart move was this guy's decision to get on a plane when he had the very first twinge that told him he was infected. He knew getting here would mean treatment by American medical facilities; he knew Liberian treatment probably meant death. What would you do?
Even filling out the paperwork for Ol'bombya care is better than the facilities in Liberia......well,...maybe.
Dont believe there is a direct from Liberia to Dallas. The fact that 'they' will not reveal which connecting airports and airline(s) seems a bit tarded. More worried about some airline loosing business than containing the virus shows how fucked up this country is.
He certainly didn't drive his cab.
pods
Slurpee home delivery man
Air Force One? Just a hunch...
No, and they won't. You don't have the need to know. Just ask them.
Assume that any savage sitting next to you on any connection flight from any major international airport in the US is an incubator for this dreadful disease. They have forced us into this stance.
Obama and his cartel of monsterous henchmen have brought us here. The DEMOCRATS.
I say this, mind you, knowing fully well that there is virtually no difference between REPUBS and Crats. In this case, the PC poison that has permeated the country has DEMOCRATs as the authors.
He flew. And boy, are his arms tired.
(Commercial jet filled with a couple hundred other people is actually how he got here- exactly as you might expect. Thank goodness you're not contagious unless you look sick, which he didn't at the time. So everything's cool.)
Nailed it!
Ba dum Pish
Ba-Dum-Boom, Tssss! Thank you folks and remember to tip your waitresses!
Back in my University days, my Microbiology professor referred to commercial aircraft as "Inoculation Chambers", ...indeed.
That's easy to answer - because there are still 200,000 people from Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia that have U.S. Visas that the government won't invalidate/cancel because doing so would be profiling and RACIST.
I haven't seen a clip of it, but was told that on CNN Erin Burnett practically laughed at Sanjay Gupta when he stated they are 100% certain it is contained (or words to that effect).
Would be great to see if true...
Erin Burnett practically laughed at Sanjay Gupta
Something must have rubbed off when she was hanging around Ted Nugent.
So we see that a virus is where Erin draws the line at going along with the lies. Fraudulent markets. Made up numbers the past 13 years , not so much. I guess when thinking of having blood ooze out of that pretty little body, it's too much to handle. End of her career.
Seeing as how the the level of trust in "authorities" these days is...ummm...pretty low to nonexistant, it makes me wonder if we were told the truth about all the flights cancelled in Chicago last week.
(pulls tin-foil tighter and heads out for moar bean runs)
I had a lengthy convo with a county sheriff yesterday. The authorities don't trust the authorites. He brought up & confirmed SandyHoax is just that among other things.
Got the last 3 boxes of ammo today I could find.
Blood pouring out the anus is definitely a deal-breaker for Erin.
The Presstitute Media is virtually all based on False Narrative's, PsyOp's & Propaganda Scripted in the headquarters of the Pure Evil Psychopathic offices at the Criminal CIA.
The recent revelation of the AP reporter having to clear his stories via the Criminal CIA proves this point. Operation Mocking bird is alive & well.
I believe that explains ebola.
Spreading fear of a contagious disease is so easy and cheap.
I love how they say the people on the plane have absolutely nothing to worry about. Because if this fuckin guy had coughed or sneezed on the plane somebody would have seen it.
Experiments show when you sneeze on a plane you can infect up to 13 rows of people in front of you and 8 rows behind you. Droplets of your infected saliva, I guess.
Nice thought, eh.
That's why I always wear a full-body condom when I fly commercial.
Who am I kidding? I wear a full-body condom everywhere I go.
This shit's about as contained as the subprime mortgages were in 2007-2008.
Other experiments show that when the people in those 22 rows get up and move about the plane doing their own coughing of aerosolized virus in the non-hepa-filtered-recirculated air system, you can infect up to ALL THE ROWS in the plane.
Experiments?? We are past the experimental stage. Why is this even a discussion??? We have evidence!!
Everybody knows that the guy who coughs in the movie eventually dies a horrible death!!!
Long the new Fall fashion line-up for plane rides: Full face masks and vinyl gloves.
And don't play that song by Davinyls, so to speak.
Globalisation....bringing the world, and ebola, to your doorstep!
http://olduvai.ca
Get ready BITCHEZ..... Better stock up on your preps..... And don't forget those succulant face masks.
Forget the cheap face masks...get the butyl rubber respirators.
Useless in very humid climes,as they are finding out in Africa.
Hard enough to keep them 'tight' in Florida FFS.
Disagree. Ive worn them in all kinds of crappy climates with no problem. Usually the biggest problem is improper fitting of the mask prior to use. It takes several steps to ensure things are sealed. Also one can only operate in high heat and humidity for so long before fatigue and thus mistakes are made. PAPR system is also an alternative, but cost goes way up then.
Well, fuck it then, I'm going to work every day from now on in a full, pressurized, biohazard suit.
In a pinch, can I just put a plastic bag over my head and tie it tightly around my neck? I bet that would prevent catching ebola.
Calm down man.
You guys are acting like a Native American who got handed a blanket by the pale skin.
What's that? Oh wait, the Kardashians...
They are over, we bombed them last week.
pods
Praise be to _____________
Please enter your Deity of choice.
Anyone coming in with a flu-like illness should be asked, "So, have you traveled outside the country or been in contact with anyone who has?"
Also, note to our health care workers; if their eyes are bloodshot or oozing blood, that's a bad thing, do not release to public! For crissakes...
Q1 answer: No
Q2 answer: How the fuck should I know?
Q1 answer: Obviously not in this case (or potentially other such cases).
Q2 answer: If you have relatives from West Freaking Africa, and they have been there recently, you should Freaking know that answer too.
Folks without apparent ties to West Africa; you be correct.
And we wonder why this country is so fukked up?
"So, have you sucked or swallowed anybody who traveled outside the country or been in contact with anyone who has?"
"the man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics"
No he was given a prescription for antibiotics. After which a symptomatic man with Ebola stood in line at the drug store and probably waited about 20 minutes for a prescription refill. How much contact did he have with others?
One of the best vectors for disease transmission is physical money- from my hot, sweaty, sneezed-upon, coughed-into hand and into yours... enjoy and keep the tip!
And credit cards and pens to sign the slips and shopping carts and door handles and restaurant utensils and ATM machines and gas pump handles and..
We're all DOOOOMED!!!!
Careful there, or we might all end up like Howard Hughes.
At least he was a rich miserable fuck.
Money as a disease vector....... not a problem if you are getting it directly from the printer!
I'm wondering how long this feverish man with flu-like symptoms sat in a crowded er waiting room before being seen. Those places are oversized petri dishes.
So, 6 days after entering this country this guy is sick enough to go to a hospital? When will it become more clear that this man suspected he was sick before he left Africa?
Yes..I would think the CDC should be searching out the people on the plane to see if anything is going on.....a plane is a perfect pietre dish for a virus...and for anyone to say its 100% contained is an idiot...a dangerous idiot...and one more sick thought...but these infectious disease units around the country are just hoping they can be used...to become stars in the fight of Ebola....these are multi million dollar spaces that sit idle.....now they have a use..so you can bet the Doctors all want the ebola patients here...so they can show off....and get more money of course...and some mic time in front of the cameras...15 minutes of fame..and possibly death to the rest of us..
Yeah, leave it up to you and yours to try to kill us all.
I so agree! New a psychiatrist who got visibly excited when talking about shock therapy. All those shiny toys; gotta use 'em!
TweedleDee: "Shit, man. All of our infectious disease units are running out of stuff to do."
TweedleDum: "Yeah. How about you take half and I take half. We will see who can get the most media attention."
TweedleDee: "Bonus points if you can start a local riot."
TweedleDum: "You are on!"
Bear in mind that the people who are assuring you that , 'it will absolutely be stopped in Dallas' are the SAME people who assured you 3 weeks ago that, 'it is contained in Africa and cannot make it to the USA'.
Bear in mind how many flights that same jet has taken since then with people on board now potentially infected. Do the math. Chilling.
"Make the people demand full body scans before flying! Let us get their consent!"
I would not want to see all of the people in this theater try to escape throught that little door at the same time. Especially from behind them.
USA next ebola case - tonight
USA next ebola case - tomorrow
Rash of ebola cases in 17 days from now?
Rash of ebola cases in 18 days from now?
"The housing crisis is contained"...
Mother Nature kicks ass...
lots of opportunity in the coming chaos...
Maybe it's time the so-called 'experts' revisit their previous statements that the risk of ebola outside of Africa was ZERO!
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That's one way to put a stop to that nasty talk of secession in Texas.
A few weeks ago I had made the same comment. Look, Ebola has been here for weeks/months. Its in Atlanta. It was at Mt Sanai in NYC. Its been here. I thought that the first ACKNOWLEDGED case would be in Texas for the exact same reason that you surmize here. What greater concentration of freedom lovers has this country got?
Look I know guys, there are millions of us throughout the country...but this is psychological warfare as brought to us by the evil fuckers in TPTB.
Mandatory 21 day confinement for anyone going to the doctor with flu like symptoms?
Let's skip that and go with a mandatory 21 day confinement of everyone in the country. You have two choices: Shelter in place, or be picked up and taken to a FEMA camp if you're found wandering the streets.
And when the regular Camp FEMAs are filled, they got "special" camps for Ebola victims.
If it were me, I'd send them to EBT/SNAP country, to reduce costs. Better still... send them to Congress, the DOD and for a WH tour. Now that would help cut costs! /sarc, I think.